Board of Health
Regular MeetingSalem, MA · February 9, 2021
Minutes
CITY OF SALEM
BOARD OF HEALTH
MEETING MINUTES
Virtual Meeting held via Zoom
and
Recorded by SATV
February 9, 2021
MEMBERS PRESENT: Dr. Jeremy Schiller, Paul Kirby, Geraldine Yuhas, Sara Moore, Datanis Elias
OTHERS PRESENT: David Greenbaum, Health Agent, Maureen Davis, Clerk of the Board, Patricia Morsillo, City
Council Liaison
ATTENDEES ADDRESSED: Alan Hanscom, SATV and resident, Steven Kapantais, resident
TOPIC DISCUSSION/ACTION
J. Schiller read aloud that, pursuant to Governor Baker’s orders, there
exists COVID-19 Emergency Open Meeting Law Guidance regarding the
implementation of virtual public meetings, etc.
1. Call to Order
7:03pm
2. Approval of Minutes G. Yuhas motioned to approve the minutes. P. Kirby 2 nd. All in favor.
(December 17, 2020 and Motion passed.
January 12, 2021)
3. Updates on COVID-19 D. Greenbaum reported that case counts are coming down. We have daily
case counts as low as 5-10 and as high as 20-25, which is down
considerably from the last several weeks.
Salem returned to a yellow community status on Thursday because our
percent positivity fell below five.
The big news is that vaccines are rolling out. We did first responders in
early January and moved to other phase 1 priority groups in mid-to-late
January, such as home healthcare workers and congregate group homes.
On February 1st the Governor opened up phase 2 with the first priority
group being seniors 75 years and older. We did an initial clinic for them on
Friday. We are having a hard time getting Moderna vaccine, but we have
been able to get plenty of Pfizer vaccine so that’s what we used.
This week we are doing second doses of Moderna for first responders.
Next week we will start to go to the five communities’ councils on aging to
vaccinate more seniors 75+.
Starting tomorrow, Cataldo Ambulance will take over the Salem State
University South Campus site and do vaccinations as well.
There appears to be plenty of Pfizer vaccine, so we will use that as we go
forward until the supply of Moderna becomes more readily available.
J. Schiller asked how many vaccines per day we are giving out on average.
D. Greenbaum said we are averaging 200-225 right now. The State has
told local health that we are not the primary provider of vaccines. People
should be looking at the mass vaccine sites like Gillette, Fenway, the
Doubletree Inn in Danvers, and other locations the State will be setting up.
They should be looking at pharmacies and their doctor’s offices. Our role
is to fill in some gaps and maybe do some senior housing facilities, etc.
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The communities that we have dealt with, including Beverly, Danvers,
Marblehead, and Swampscott, feel strongly about doing some vaccination
clinics at the senior centers in their towns and communities. He does not
disagree with that. He thinks it is important that people know we are there.
The good thing is that those clinics won’t be just for the residents of that
city or town, it will be for the residents of all five communities. We will
provide the clinic information to the councils on aging so they can assist
people in getting signed up. It will also help to get some equity in the
number of appointments each community is getting.
J. Schiller asked if there have been any bottlenecks with the supply of
vaccine and the resources to administer.
D. Greenbaum said no, it has been matched pretty well. We have a good
group of volunteers called the Medical Reserve Corps. We have had some
really great volunteers working at our clinics so far and the clinics have
been very well run.
J. Schiller said he communicated with D. Greenbaum and offered to help
with administering vaccines if there is a need. He asked if any other
members were interested.
G. Yuhas also offered to help after she receives her second dose tomorrow.
D. Greenbaum thanked them and said if we need help in any way we will
reach out.
J. Schiller said in looking at the situation report the decrease in active cases
and case positivity per day is dramatically lower. However, if you look at
the ICU capacity and hospitalizations it is lower than it has been, but it is
still pretty high. The important point is that at least it is heading in the right
direction.
D. Greenbaum said it is important to reiterate that while vaccines are
rolling out and there does appear to be some light at the end of the tunnel,
we should still be doing all the mitigation efforts we have been doing for
the last 10 months. We should still be wearing face coverings, social
distancing, not gathering in large crowds and washing hands frequently.
The goal of the vaccine is to reach herd immunity and we want to vaccinate
85% of the population to get there. If we can bring the positivity rates and
the case rates down and then get the immunization rates up then we, as a
community and as a country overall, will be in good shape.
J. Schiller reiterated a point that what was made earlier at one of our
meetings; as the positivity rate goes down, the vaccines actually become
more effective. We need to continue to do what’s right until we get to a
better place.
S. Moore asked about the testing sites and when they will end. She also
inquired about the testing for Salem residents at the CLC.
D. Greenbaum said the Stop the Spread testing sites at Old Town Hall and
Salem High School will run through March 31 st. The timeframes are given
to us by the State, however every time we were given an end date for Stop
the Spread testing it has been extended by at least a couple of months. He
can’t make any guarantees, but he anticipates that we will see an extension
at some point. The City was paying for testing at the CLC, but it has
stopped, and he doesn’t think it will be continuing.
Attendee Alan Hanscom, Washington Square, asked what it means that as
the positivity rates go down the vaccine gets more effective.
D. Greenbaum said we know not everybody is going to get vaccinated, but
there is a direct correlation between immunization rates going up and
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infection rates going down and the effectiveness of the vaccine on the
community overall.
J. Schiller told D. Greenbaum that as things play out to just let the Board
know if there is any role we can play.
D. Greenbaum said probably as we get to more broad-scale clinics and
mass vaccinations we will be reaching out for assistance.
G. Yuhas asked if people should still get tested after they have been
vaccinated.
D. Greenbaum said it is still a good idea to get tested because we know the
vaccine is not a cure. You can still contract the virus even if you’ve been
vaccinated. Even if the vaccine minimizes your symptoms, or you have no
symptoms at all, you can still transmit the virus to someone who has not
been vaccinated.
J. Schiller said at least we are seeing positive trends compared to where we
were two months ago when we were at a real critical stage, but in no way
should we be letting our guard down.
D. Greenbaum said hopefully the Superbowl doesn’t create an uptick in
cases. That will be determined in the next week to ten days.
4. Discussion on Health Disparities S. Moore said she did ask the question whether or not the Latin X
and Race Equity community in particular had any hesitation about getting the vaccine. Ana
Nuncio said she didn’t think so. Most of the people she talked to in the
Latin X community are excited about getting it.
J. Schiller asked how often the subcommittee meets.
S. Moore said they meet every Friday at 3:00pm. They decided to keep the
survey they were using to collect data open a little bit longer. She plans to
be at the meeting this week.
5. Chairperson Communications J. Schiller said our primary focus has been COVID.
6. Monthly Reports-Updates
a. Public Health
Nurse’s Report Report not available.
D. Greenbaum reported that our Public Health Nurse, Suzanne Darmody, is
finishing up our first responder clinic so she was not able to join us for the
meeting.
J. Schiller asked how Suzanne is doing.
D. Greenbaum said she is hanging in there. There has been some
nervousness around the vaccines. They are very fragile, and storage and
handling has been a concern, not just for us but across a lot of communities
dealing with this. We are primarily getting Pfizer at this point and we have
been able to work with the hospital to store it for us in their ultra-cold
freezer. When we need doses, we let them know how many vials we need,
they prep them and get them ready for us and we pick them up. It takes
about three hours for Pfizer to thaw, but Suzanne saw that it thawed quite a
bit faster than that. It shouldn’t be a problem.
J. Schiller asked how many vaccinations are in a vial.
D. Greenbaum said Pfizer is five doses, but a lot of times you can get six.
Moderna is ten doses per vial. Sometimes you can get an eleventh dose,
but it is not as consistent as getting a sixth dose from Pfizer.
P. Kirby asked if there are any concerns with getting second doses of the
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same brand name as first doses.
D. Greenbaum said the State is telling us we are guaranteed to get second
dose vaccines, no matter what brand it is. We were able to get all the doses
we needed for this week’s second dose clinics. You can get a second dose
up to four days before the 28th day after a first dose, but there is no
maximum number of days in which to receive second doses after the 28 th
day. You can even go a month after.
P. Kirby said to give Suzanne our thanks.
Attendee Steve Kapantais, 23 Wisteria Street, thanked the Board for all
they are doing through COVID-19. He asked what the lead time is for
appointment dates for vaccinations.
D. Greenbaum said we are not booking out any appointments too far in
advance. We are scheduling clinics and advertising them as they go up.
Our appointments will go up generally a week in advance. People can sign
up the week prior and even on that day if appointments are still available.
If somebody comes without an appointment, we take their name and
number and if we have vaccine left, we give them a call and they can come
and get their dose. We have had some people do that.
S. Kapantais asked if the Salem State site is up and running yet. He said at
the Salem State site there is nothing available until after March 8 th.
D. Greenbaum said the Salem State site was up and running last week with
the City running it. Starting tomorrow Cataldo will be running it. He
recommended he check the City’s website for the link or contact the
Council on Aging and they can help people make appointments if there are
still some available. He believes Cataldo will be expanding to multiple
days and times in the coming weeks.
b. Health Agent’s Report
D. Greenbaum said he will continue to provide the weekly situation report
to the Board.
c. Administrative Report Copy available at BOH office.
J. Schiller asked when the budget is due.
D. Greenbaum said he hasn’t received budget information yet. We
generally see them in February or March. He imagines it will be due
sometime in late March or early April for review and meetings with the
Mayor and Finance Director and then in front of the City Council probably
sometime in June.
d. Council Liaison Updates
P. Morsillo reported the Accessory Dwelling Unit (ADU) ordinance will be
reintroduced on Thursday. The State just passed their housing choice bill
which eliminates the super majority required for zoning changes. The
ordinance will go to the Planning Board first, then there will be public
hearings with the Planning Board and the City Council together. We will
hopefully get more housing created. ADU is a gentle growth with no big
construction sites. They can create low rent apartments for people, which
is exactly what we need.
On an unrelated note, on February 17th there will be an appeal before the
Zoning Board of Appeals for a request to open a gun shop on 1 Florence
Street, which is off Canal Street behind the Salem Car Wash. It is an R3
zoned area. She wanted to bring it to our attention to see if the Board
would be interested in writing a letter. Before she was on the City Council,
she was the Chair of the League of Women Voters in Salem’s working
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group on gun safety. Before the pandemic started, they had been planning
to work with the Board of Health to introduce things like inexpensive gun
locks for people who own guns to keep their guns locked. It wouldn’t cost
them anything, and it would make it safer. They had been lobbying at the
State level for bills related to gun safety and for a State-level criminal
database to help track data on guns. Hearing that there might be a gun store
opened up in Salem really raises a lot of concern on her part.
J. Schiller asked if there are any more gun shops in Salem.
S. Moore said she heard on social media that there are a couple of people
who have the ability to sell firearms, but they have not done so. She echoes
P. Morsillo’s concerns since we do occasionally see firearm violence in
Salem.
P. Morsillo said for the ZBA, the new use is not supposed to be more
harmful or detrimental to the public than the current use. The current use is
a doggy daycare. We are talking about mental health issues during the
pandemic, and the majority of gun deaths are from suicide, not street
violence. She just doesn’t think it is an appropriate use for that location in
Salem in the time we’re in.
J. Schiller recalled that a number of years ago the Board signed onto a
petition with the State about the importance of the awareness of gun
violence.
P. Kirby said we did, and it was around the issue of allowing CDC funds to
be used for research.
J. Schiller said it was also about doctor-patient relationships and asking
about gun safety and gun use. He said gun violence is clearly a Board of
Health issue.
P. Kirby said he would be in favor of the Board intervening on the side of
not allowing a gun shop in Salem.
J. Schiller asked what the Board can do to be useful. We can highlight the
statistics of suicide, etc.
P. Morsillo suggested they could write a letter or speak to the ZBA at the
meeting on February 17th because it is a public hearing.
Attendee Alan Hanscom said he is worried about this and asked what kind
of guns they would be selling and how powerful the guns are. It would be
scary if they would be selling assault weapons.
P. Morsillo said all she has is an agenda item about a firearms retail
business.
P. Kirby said he believes it is illegal to sell any automatic weapons in MA.
There was discussion among members about the process of getting the
letter(s) to the ZBA.
J. Schiller suggested it might have impact if each member wrote individual
letters about how they feel about it.
D. Greenbaum said he will send Board members an email with the ZBA
membership and they can email their letters directly to them.
Attendee Steve Kapantais said Bob’s on North Street and David Frank’s on
Bridge Street were the last two gun shops in Salem. He doesn’t know if
either one is still actively open or selling. They still may have a license, so
that is something the Board can check with the City. He suggested the
Board do their homework if they are going to be offering gun locks for
safety because there are many that are not useful, at all. There is no doubt
that suicide is something the Board of Health needs to be concerned with.
60% of death rates by gun fall into the category of suicide. However, he
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has concerns when he hears comments like we don’t want a gun store in
Salem, followed by a statement that you can’t buy semi-automatic guns in
MA – which is not true. This is a commerce business and to try to make a
correlation that, because you have a gun store in your town, it is even
tangentially responsible for suicide deaths is a concern. He has issues with
a Board that is supposed to be dealing with Board of Health issues trying to
deal with things that are constitutionally protected, not just for owners but
for commerce.
J. Schiller said it is a point well taken. That’s why he thinks contacting the
ZBA individually and letting them know how we feel concerned about it
would be better. It is not about targeting a specific business as much as it is
about raising the issue of how the Board of Health views guns in the
paradigm of public health. It is something we have weighed in on in the
past. It’s not necessarily this gun shop, but guns in general are dangerous
and they are a public health issue and are under the purview of the Board of
Health. That, coupled with the pandemic and the stress on mental health, is
a real issue. He agrees with S. Kapantais that this gun shop is a commerce
issue, and that’s why it is not coming before the Board of Health. The
issues of guns do fall under a public health issue and we are well within our
jurisdiction to weigh in on that or to provide education on that.
P. Kirby said he apologized for being a little emotional. He grew up in a
town in Texas that is famous for mass shootings, so he has really strong
personal feelings about guns. However, he agrees with J. Schiller that there
is a really robust public health argument around the proliferation of guns.
S. Moore asked P. Morsillo to articulate what it means that the person who
is wanting to open the store is going before the ZBA to request a special
permit.
P. Morsillo said it means it is not allowed in an R3 zoned area, which is a
multi-unit residential area. In order to gain the approval from the ZBA,
they have to show that it’s not more harmful or detrimental to the public
than the current use.
P. Kirby said so by going before the ZBA they are asking for an exception,
but if you applied the rule as written, the answer would be no.
P. Morsillo said she is just explaining the process for the ZBA. It is not a
business zone.
S. Moore said the City still has opportunities to decide where business is
located, for instance, marijuana dispensaries, so there is some regulation of
commerce. It is not surprising that there might be some concern around
this issue. She agrees with J. Schiller that gun violence is under the
purview of the Board of Health. It’s a public health issue – it just is.
J. Schiller encouraged everyone on the Board to try to get on to the ZBA
meeting next week.
D. Greenbaum said four or five years ago a lot of boards of health signed
on to a letter that went to the Governor declaring gun violence as a public
health concern. He was working in Saugus at the time and the Saugus
Board of Health also signed onto it, as he believes Salem did. He will send
a copy of the letter to the Board.
P. Kirby thanked S. Kapantais for speaking on this issue.
P. Kirby moved to approve the reports. G. Yuhas 2 nd. All in favor.
Motion passed.
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7. New Business/Scheduling of Future G. Yuhas asked if we are going to follow Boston and open things up to
Agenda Items 40%.
D. Greenbaum said we did follow Boston and the Governors order to
increase capacities to 40%. At this point in time the numbers show that
things are going in the right direction and there would be no justification to
be more restrictive. Should the numbers change, then the Board should
absolutely discuss being more restrictive if the Governor doesn’t do it for
the State.
J. Schiller pointed out that it is important to remember that where we were
in December was based on the data. The most compelling data was the
trend in positive cases, the local lack of capacity at the hospital and input
from local hospital presidents at Beverly and Salem saying they were
nearing zero capacity. That is the big criteria. That’s the most critical data
we look to when deciding whether or not to open up more. We now have
more room in the hospital, but that doesn’t mean we should be less vigilant
about being socially distanced and wearing masks, etc. What should scare
us most is when the hospitals lack capacity to treat us – that’s a problem.
D. Elias said she would like to educate herself more before she discusses
the gun issue in a public forum.
MEETING ADJOURNED: S. Moore motioned to adjourn. P. Kirby 2 nd. All in favor. Motion
passed.
7:50pm
Respectfully submitted,
Maureen Davis Next regularly scheduled meeting is
Clerk of the Board Tuesday, March 9, 2021 at 7:00pm
Virtual Meeting Via Zoom
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Agenda
CITY OF SALEM, MASSACHUSETTS
BOARD OF HEALTH
98 WASHINGTON STREET, 3RD FLOOR
SALEM, MA 01970
TEL. (978) 741-1800
KIMBERLEY DRISCOLL health@salem.com DAVID GREENBAUM
HEALTH AGENT
MAYOR
BOARD OF HEALTH MEETING NOTICE AND AGENDA
Notice is hereby given that a meeting of the Salem Board of Health will be held on Tuesday, February 9, 2021
at 7:00 p.m. via remote participation in accordance with the Open Meeting Law and Governor Baker’s
Emergency Order dated March 12, 2020.
Pursuant to Governor Baker’s March 12, 2020 Order Suspending Certain Provisions of the Open Meeting Law,
G.L. c. 30A, §18, and the Governor’s March 15, 2020 Order imposing strict limitation on the number of people
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MEETING AGENDA
1. Call to Order
2. Approval of Minutes (December 17, 2020 and January 12, 2021)
3. Updates on COVID-19
4. Discussion on Health Disparities and Race Equity
5. Chairperson Communications
6. Public Health Announcements/Reports/Updates
a. Public Health Nurse Report
b. Health Agent Report
c. Administrative Report
d. Council Liaison Updates
7. New Business/Scheduling of Future Agenda Items
Items that could not be anticipated prior to the posting of the agenda
David Greenbaum, Health Agent
cc: Mayor Kimberley Driscoll, Board of Health, City Councilors
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