Board of Health
Regular MeetingSalem, MA · November 9, 2021
Minutes
CITY OF SALEM
BOARD OF HEALTH
MEETING MINUTES
Virtual Meeting held via Zoom
and
Recorded by SATV
November 9, 2021
MEMBERS PRESENT: Dr. Jeremy Schiller, Paul Kirby, Geraldine Yuhas, Sara Moore, Datanis Elias
OTHERS PRESENT: David Greenbaum, Health Agent, Maureen Davis, Clerk of the Board, Patricia Morsillo, City
Council Liaison, Joyce Redford, Director, North Shore/Cape Ann Tobacco Control Program, Mohamed Karim, Citgo,
Ziad Nabbout, BP Station
ATTENDEES ADDRESSED: (Please see minutes)
TOPIC DISCUSSION/ACTION
J. Schiller read aloud that, pursuant to Governor Baker’s orders, there
exists COVID-19 Emergency Open Meeting Law Guidance regarding the
implementation of virtual public meetings, etc.
7:02pm
1. Call to Order
2. Approval of Minutes P. Kirby moved to approve the minutes. G. Yuhas 2nd.
(October 12, 2021)
Roll call vote:
G. Yuhas – yes
S. Moore – yes
P. Kirby – yes
D. Elias – yes
J. Schiller – yes
Motion passed by a vote of 5 to 0.
3. Hearings for violations of
Regulation 24 of the City of Salem
Board of Health Restricting the
Sale and Use of Tobacco Products
a. Citgo – 105 North Street, J. Schiller said the continuation was requested to review the video.
Hearing continued from Mohamed Karim, Citgo, 105 North Street.
October 12, 2021 J. Redford said a couple of days after the last hearing she met M. Karim at
Citgo to view his video. He only had four minutes of video. Unfortunately,
it was not a big enough window to see the violation. She said typically they
say the violation happened at an approximate time because it takes time for
the sale to occur, for the youth to return to her vehicle, and for her to enter
the violation live into a database. The process can take up to a half hour.
M. Karim said the violation letter stated the violation happened at 11:51am,
so he checked his videos three minutes prior to that time and a couple of
minutes after. If he knew the time was approximate, he would have viewed
the video longer than the five minutes or so that he showed J. Redford. He
feels three minutes for a convenience store should be enough time to see a
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violation. His surveillance video only holds for a month and a half.
D. Greenbaum said he had a conversation with J. Redford after she viewed
the video, and he will take ownership of the “at” phrasing in the letter and
“at approximately” will be added to the time of the alleged violation in the
letters going forward.
J. Schiller told M. Karim he is sorry, but the Board does not have discretion
when it comes to violations.
M. Karim said he thinks it is a mistake and he should not be responsible for
it.
J. Schiller asked him if he is saying it did not actually happen.
M. Karim said exactly.
J. Redford said even though we did not see the violation on the video, he
would know who was working on that day and time, plus a description of
the clerk was provided, and we have the evidence.
M. Karim said there are two of them working there and they both fit the
description provided.
P. Kirby said J. Redford’s program does not require positive, preserved
security video evidence, and the absence of the video does not constitute
grounds for waiving the fine.
J. Schiller clarified with M. Karim that his point is that we provided a
detailed time and when we go back to that time there is no evidence on the
video.
M. Karim said exactly.
J. Redford said she has record of sales at surrounding businesses around his
that are around the same timeframe. She has no reason to implicate him or
pretend he sold something. She told M. Karim that she respects that his
issue is the time, but clocks can be off by a couple of minutes, and five
minutes is not a realistic snapshot of any of your customers walking in,
purchasing something, getting change and walking out. She cannot enter
information about a violation until it occurs, and her youth returns to the
car to give her the information. She said they also tag and bag the product
right there. She feels the Board can make a decision on this without
haggling about seconds.
D. Elias asked if there was a printed receipt for the transaction.
J. Redford said no, the youth don’t ask for them because that is a tell. We
only get receipts in grocery stores.
M. Karim said there is no actual proof. There is no receipt. He suggested to
the Board that they get a receipt.
J. Redford said it could put the youth in jeopardy. Convenience stores don’t
typically give receipts for small purchases like gum or cigarettes.
J. Schiller said we have been working with J. Redford for years. She has
the most integrity and there would be no reason for us to doubt what she is
saying, and there is no reason to doubt that this took place.
G. Yuhas said it doesn’t matter what time this happened, it happened. We
have records that it happened. We trust J. Redford.
P. Kirby moved that the Board deny Mr. Karim’s appeal of the Citgo
store’s tobacco violation fine.
G. Yuhas 2nd.
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Roll call vote:
S. Moore – yes
G. Yuhas – yes
P. Kirby – yes
D. Elias – yes
J. Schiller – yes
Motion passed by a vote of 5 to 0.
b. BP – 94 Jackson Street Ziad Nabbout, BP Station, 84-94 Jackson Street.
J. Redford provided details of the violation which included the date and
time of the sale, a description of the product sold, and a description of the
clerk who sold the tobacco product.
Z. Nabbout asked if J. Redford leaves something after the sale.
J. Redford said no, they used to, but with the new State law the
collaborative voted that with the fines as high as they are that could put the
youth in jeopardy. For example, if the youth was on video and a business
shared the video with another store, when the youth go to that other store
they could be in jeopardy.
Z. Nabbout said he is not denying what happened. He only heard about the
incident when he received the letter in the mail. He has been in the business
since 2002 he does not recall getting any fines or warnings. He only sells 2
or 3 packs every other day. He is asking for a reconsideration, if possible.
J. Schiller said unfortunately we have no discretion. This is a violation, and
we cannot change the outcome of the violation.
Z. Nabbout said he respects that.
J. Redford recommended to Z. Nabbout that because it is a 36-month
period it is an opportunity to train his staff. If nothing else occurs in the
next 36 months this violation goes away from his history.
S. Moore moved to deny the request of BP to appeal their tobacco
violation fine.
G. Yuhas 2nd.
Roll call vote:
P. Kirby – yes
G. Yuhas – yes
S. Moore – yes
D. Elias – yes
J. Schiller – yes
Motion passed by a vote of 5 to 0.
Attendee Harrison Schell, 170 North Street, said he goes to the Citgo all the
time and the people there are some of the nicest, friendliest people at any
convenience store he has ever been to. He said he also wants to back them
up by saying that they always offer to give him a receipt.
J. Schiller said we appreciate that, and it’s nice to know that kind of
business exists in our community, but this has nothing to do with being
nice or not.
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J. Redford said she would like to meet with the Board again, perhaps at the
January meeting, to discuss Delta 8 and Delta 9 products that are out there.
They are a synthetic THC and are being sold in some of our retailers. She
wants to give the Board of Health an update on what it is; it is illegal in
MA because it is a synthetic cannabis product. You can get high off of it.
She would like to show the Board some of the products. She said if they
run into a location that has it, they are telling people they have to remove it.
She wants the Board to know why she is doing it in case they hear
something.
4. Chairperson Communications J. Schiller said it seemed that everything with the mask mandate and testing
went well. Mask compliance was great, and we had a very successful
Halloween. The mask mandate expires this Saturday, November 13th at
midnight. That was written in as an expiration date, so the Board does not
need to take any action on it. He has not received any emails about the
expiration date.
D. Greenbaum reported that there was an increase in cases; there were 32
cases between yesterday and today with an average of about 15 cases per
day. He anticipated there would be an increase in cases post-Halloween,
but it was a little more dramatic than he anticipated.
S. Moore had asked what the percentage of cases were by age.
D. Greenbaum said 73 out of 200+ cases since 10/25 are 0-19 years old.
There is a dramatic drop in cases for people over 40.
There is a lot going on in the schools right now. The hope is with
vaccinations now available for 5–11-year-olds that will help. The School
Department, in coordination with the Health Department, is looking into
getting vaccination clinics into schools in the next couple of weeks so those
that want it can at least get their first dose before Thanksgiving. He thinks
that will have an impact on our case counts as that goes forward.
He has been involved in conversations with the provider the State is
sending our way to offer some robust vaccination programs for not just 5-
11-year-olds, but for everybody.
J. Schiller said we will need to keep a close eye on the numbers as people
move indoors with the colder weather. So far, the capacity in the hospital is
5. Monthly Reports-Updates good.
a. Public Health D. Greenbaum reported that Suzanne Darmody is out on maternity leave
Nurse’s Report and is expected back in late January. We have a couple of nurses covering
for her; a semi-retired former public health nurse that he worked with at his
time in Saugus. She is very capable. The nurse in Beverly is also helping to
cover as she did on Suzanne’s first maternity leave.
b. Health Agent’s Report D. Greenbaum reported that he has been out on vacation last week and this.
He informed the Board that he still has a significant amount of time to use,
and he will be using it before the end of the year.
The Board agreed it is well-deserved.
P. Morsillo thanked D. Greenbaum for all the work during October keeping
people safe and healthy. She appreciates the new testing facility at Riley
Plaza, too.
D. Greenbaum said that Curative, who ran our downtown rapid testing site
for large-scale events in October, has offered to run a PCR testing location
in the City for as long as the City wants it. The good news is it is insurance
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based, so the patient’s insurance gets billed and there is no cost to the City.
We don’t know if the Stop the Spread testing will continue past the end of
December. He thinks it will, but there is no guarantee and the City feels
strongly that it is important that we have some testing locally. It will be a
walk-up, heated trailer located at Riley Plaza. There will be someone there,
but it will be a self-administered nasal swab and results are available within
36 hours.
He reminded the Board that the Contact Tracing Collaborative at the State
level who is doing the bulk of the contact tracing for most communities
will no longer be taking cases effective November 30th. They will handle
their cases through December and will go away December 31 st. All the
contact tracing will come back to the local community effective November
30th. We are part of a regional grant for contact tracing that Peabody holds.
They are in the process of hiring staff to fill the positions for contact
tracing and management of contact tracing. We will rely on that grant
heavily in Salem until Suzanne is back.
c. Administrative Report Copy available at BOH office.
d. Council Liaison Updates P. Morsillo said there are two more City Council meetings scheduled. The
Urban Agriculture Ordinance will slide into next year, hopefully in
January. Everyone is trying very hard to get as much done as they can
before the last two meetings.
D. Greenbaum reminded the Board that the Urban Agriculture Ordinance
also has a Board of Health regulation that goes along with it. Kerry Murphy
in the office has been working extensively with Meg Riccardi, Beth
Rennard, other members of the community, and the City Council to get the
Board of Health regulation written so when they are ready with the
ordinance the Board can take action on the regulation as well.
P. Kirby moved to approve the reports. G. Yuhas 2nd.
Roll call vote:
J. Schiller – yes
S. Moore – yes
D. Elias – yes
P. Kirby – yes
G. Yuhas - yes
Motion passed by a vote of 5 to 0.
6. New Business/Scheduling of Future J. Schiller said if people had agenda items they would like to add, let him
Agenda Items know.
P. Kirby suggested we get a syringe program update.
D. Greenbaum said we are working on the Healing Communities Study,
which is a grant through NIH that we get awarded through Boston Medical
Center. He thinks it would be good to have Meaghan Bransfield, the
Community Coordinator we hired last year, join a meeting to talk about
what has been done. There is a lot of work being done. There is a
community forum on You-Tube and SATV. He can send the link to it.
He said the folks who are doing the needle exchange sent him an article
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which he found very interesting. It was about innovative safe practices and
harm reduction happening in Ohio. He will send the article to the Board. It
is something he would not be opposed to seeing happen in MA, and
potentially in Salem.
P. Kirby said he started thinking about the topic again recently because
there have been some statistics about opioid overdose deaths during the
pandemic. They have surprisingly skyrocketed. It is one of our most urgent
public health challenges, after the pandemic.
D. Greenbaum agreed and said the pandemic did isolate people more who
are suffering from opioid use disorder. It will be good to hear from Healthy
Streets as well as the Healing Communities folks.
J. Schiller said we could invite them to come to the December or January
meeting to get an update.
D. Greenbaum will reach out to them.
D. Greenbaum said the City has been publishing a reopening policy since
last year when reopening started. The City is requiring that all Boards and
Commissions hold meetings remotely until December 31st of this year.
In January, Boards and Commissions can make the decision on their own if
they want to start to meet in-person. If there is no change in the Open
Meeting Law as written in the Governor’s Acts of 2020, then effective
April 1, 2022, all Boards members should be aware that they will be
required to attend in-person meetings beginning April 1, 2022. He just
wanted to make the Board aware of that.
G. Yuhas announced that the Recycle Committee is having a textile drive at
Riley Plaza on November 20th, the Saturday before Thanksgiving.
Helpsy is a textile collection company that picks things up that you can’t
wear anymore, such as clothes, shoes, belts, purses, linens, etc. They
recycle the material and will donate things that are still good. People can
call Helpsy anytime and they will pick up at your house on Saturdays.
MEETING ADJOURNED: G. Yuhas motioned to adjourn. P. Kirby 2nd.
Roll call vote:
S. Moore – yes
G. Yuhas - yes
J. Schiller – yes
P. Kirby – yes
D. Elias – yes
Motion passed by a vote of 5 to 0.
7:45pm
Respectfully submitted,
Maureen Davis Next regularly scheduled meeting is
Clerk of the Board Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 7:00pm
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Agenda
CITY OF SALEM,
MASSACHUSETTS
BOARD OF HEALTH
98 WASHINGTON STREET, 3RD FLOOR
SALEM, MA 01970
TEL. (978) 741-1800 DAVID GREENBAUM
health@salem.com HEALTH AGENT
KIMBERLEY DRISCOLL
MAYOR
BOARD OF HEALTH MEETING NOTICE AND AGENDA
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MEETING AGENDA
1. Call to Order
2. Approval of Minutes:
a. Board of Health Meeting, October 12, 2021
3. Hearings for violations of Regulation 24 of the City of Salem Board of Health
Restricting the Sale and Use of Tobacco Products
a. Citgo – 105 North Street, Hearing continued from October 12, 2021
b. BP – 94 Jackson Street
4. Chairperson Communications
5. Public Health Announcements/Reports/Updates
a. Public Health Nurse Report
b. Health Agent Report
c. Administrative Report
d. Council Liaison Updates
6. New Business/Scheduling of Future Agenda Items
Items that could not be anticipated prior to the posting of the agenda
David Greenbaum, Health Agent
cc: Mayor Kimberley Driscoll, Board of Health, City Councilors
Next regularly scheduled meeting is December 14, 2021, at 7:00pm
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