Board of Health
Regular MeetingSalem, MA · March 1, 2022
Minutes
CITY OF SALEM
BOARD OF HEALTH
MEETING MINUTES
Virtual Meeting held via Zoom
and
Recorded by SATV
March 1, 2022
MEMBERS PRESENT: Dr. Jeremy Schiller, Chair, Paul Kirby, Geraldine Yuhas, Sara Moore, Datanis Elias
OTHERS PRESENT: David Greenbaum, Health Agent, Suzanne Darmody, Public Health Nurse, Maureen Davis,
Clerk of the Board, Megan Riccardi, City Council Liaison, Kerry Murphy, Health & Wellness Coordinator
ATTENDEES ADDRESSED: (Please see minutes)
TOPIC DISCUSSION/ACTION
J. Schiller read the portion of the agenda regarding remote participation of
the meeting, etc.
1. Call to Order 7:03pm
2. Approval of Minutes
(February 8, 2022)
G. Yuhas motioned to approve the minutes. P. Kirby 2 nd.
Roll call vote:
S. Moore – yes
G. Yuhas – yes
P. Kirby – yes
D. Elias – yes
J. Schiller - yes
Motion passed by a vote of 5 to 0.
3. Additional discussion regarding the D. Greenbaum said there will be a joint hearing of the Planning Board and
proposed Urban Agriculture City Council.
Regulations M. Riccardi said on Tuesday, March 15th the Planning Board will be
hosting a joint public hearing with the Council and the Planning Board.
They will solicit public comments during that meeting as well because it
has a zoning change in it, so it has to go to public hearing.
J. Schiller asked what the Board can do to facilitate it.
K. Murphy said they are soliciting public comments to support the
ordinance, so it would be great to have either something in writing or
someone commenting at the meeting.
S. Moore said she is happy to create a first draft of a letter of support this
week and will share it with the Board for review.
J. Schiller said this is so exciting and is such a great idea.
K. Murphy said some outstanding questions on the proposed Board of
Health regulations are regarding soil testing and inspections as far as
beekeeping and chickens. She has been reaching out to some other
communities who have adopted these types of regulations to try to get more
information on how they do the soil testing. The ordinances she has read
have been vague or just included lead. She wants to make sure we are
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doing everything we can to do this safely while not being overly restrictive
for people’s budgets.
P. Kirby said this is great, and because we do not know anything about it,
we are relying on what other communities have done and what the best
practices are.
K. Murphy said she is happy to send the Board examples of other board of
health regulations that have been adopted in conjunction with urban
agriculture ordinances.
G. Yuhas wanted clarification that these regulations are just for people who
are going to sell their product, and not for a private garden.
K. Murphy said the soil testing requirements would be for those selling
their produce.
P. Kirby asked if this is not currently allowed.
K. Murphy said the sale of produce is currently prohibited. No farm stands
are allowed.
J. Schiller reviewed aloud the timeline of the regulations.
D. Greenbaum said the draft regulations are available.
S. Moore asked if, in preparation for our letter, we can get a full recent
draft of the ordinance so she can include the different elements the
ordinance is going to cover in it.
K. Murphy said she can send the most recent draft of the ordinance.
S. Moore said the soil testing and the lead testing were her outstanding
questions and she wonders if we would have the opportunity to revisit that
even after City Council votes on the full ordinance because that pertains
specifically to us.
M. Riccardi said that is why they took that specific requirement out of the
ordinance and put it into the Board of Health regulation to provide a little
more flexibility in that regard so that it can come to the Board to make
changes if needed. She will send the Board the related documents.
J. Schiller said he imagines the soil testing would be the part we would
need to figure out the most.
K. Murphy said all of the other urban agriculture ordinances she has seen in
MA have an annual soil testing requirement. The ones she has seen have
been primarily for lead. We need to figure out how extensive it needs to be.
The Board may want to include a one-time testing for other metals and then
for subsequent years just lead. There are a few different ways we could do
it. We also want to provide a best practices guide for any resident who
wants to sell, along with the ordinance, just so we make sure we are doing
it as safely as possible.
S. Moore said she thinks it would be helpful to have an outside person with
expertise in that area to provide a recommendation and an overview of
what is necessary from a science perspective.
J. Schiller agreed and said we should get educated about it, too.
Attendee Andy Varela, 23 Cedarcrest Avenue, spoke as a resident, not a
City Councilor. His fear with the Board of Health regulations is if you
make someone do a heavy metal test every year it can get quite costly.
Lead is the biggest issue concerning contamination. Once you test for lead
once, if it is there in a small amount there could be an issue down the line.
If there is no lead, the chances of more lead happening are insignificant.
The reason for an annual soil test is to find out what is being used for
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herbicides, pesticides, and fertilizer. The biggest issue with contamination
concerning heavy metals is phosphate-based fertilizers. After you use them
over and over and over the biggest issue is cadmium, and cadmium is toxic.
Phosphate-based fertilizers are mostly used in a commercial agriculture
scale. Most of the over-the-counter fertilizers people can get at nurseries
and home improvement stores are not phosphate-based. Most are based in
either fish or seaweed. The lead test to begin with is very important, but the
cost of a yearly test after that can be prohibitive to some of our residents.
He agrees with S. Moore about getting a soil scientist to give us a quick
synopsis. The biggest issue for the Board of Health should be what the
residents are spraying on their plants and what are they fertilizing with.
That is going to have a bigger impact than what is already there with the
metals.
K. Murphy said we could provide education for people who are going to
grow and sell their own produce as far as using organic practices and the
types of pesticides and herbicides to use. The $20.00 test does include lead,
but other tests that include other heavy metals can be $60.00 or more.
P. Kirby asked if we could mandate no phosphate-based fertilizers.
A. Varela believes the Board should make that determination. There are
enough options out there that are not cost prohibitive and are not
phosphate-based. He said pesticides are the biggest thing to worry about.
Luckily, the pesticides available to our residents from garden centers are
fairly okay but there are some that are pretty nasty, so writing additional
language for that might be beneficial.
J. Schiller told S. Moore he is happy to contribute to the letter of support.
Attendee Lisa said under open public meeting laws she is not required to
give her address but said she lives in central MA. She wanted to know
where this idea was born. She said she knows that national associations are
calling the shots. She asked what role the National Association of Local
Boards of Health played in the desire to implement this new costly
restriction to private property owners.
D. Greenbaum said the NALBOH did not play any role in this. This is a
local ordinance and zoning change that involves a local board of health
oversite. The national association had no role in it.
Attendee Jeff Cohen, 12 Hancock Street, and Ward 5 Councilor, said he is
grateful to have been on the working group with K. Murphy, Councilor
Andy Varela, Councilor Meg Riccardi and others who helped with the
Mack Park Food Farm. He represented the Sustainability and Resiliency
Committee, so he does not know as much about farming, agriculture, and
fowl as the other people in the working group, but he is very proud of the
work that was done. K. Murphy did a great job. He acknowledged that a
letter and regulations from the Board of Health will lend credibility to the
project. He said he is proud to live in a city where the Board of Health
relied on science and their willingness to do right by the residents of Salem.
It has been very hard for him to understand how people have had opinions
about facts. He thanked everyone on the Board and the Health Agent for all
the great work they have done.
J. Schiller said everyone seems pretty excited about this and we will do
whatever we can to support it.
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K. Murphy said having the support and voice of the Board behind it will go
a long way. She said she and A. Varela can provide any information they
need.
D. Greenbaum said we will get information about the topics discussed to
the Board so we can get items written into the regulation as needed and
hopefully have it ready for the April meeting.
4. Discussion and vote on the format D. Greenbaum said when we scheduled this meeting, we thought the
for future Board of Health Governor’s orders regarding the Open Meeting Law would expire at the
meetings end of March. Since then, the Governor extended the Open Meeting Law
allowing Zoom and virtual meetings through July 15 th, so the Board has a
few options. They can either stay fully remote as it has for the last two
years, they can go in-person with a hybrid remote component, or they can
go fully in-person. His recommendations are to go back in person and use a
phone line as the remote participation option, no video, and then go back
fully in-person in August or September.
S. Moore said she feels a remote component is important. Public comment
is really important. Our remote meetings have been well attended compared
to our in-person meetings in the past. She thinks there is something
meaningful about democratic participation that remote participation allows
for. She thinks either of the options D. Greenbaum suggested sound good
and keeping the remote component would be helpful.
P. Kirby agrees there should be a remote component or hybrid model.
J. Schiller asked if it would be prohibitive to resume in-person meetings.
He thinks there is value for all of us gathering together, not only so we get
to see each other in person again, but also to signal an end of a certain
aspect of this pandemic. There is also value to people being able to
participate remotely and increasing participation, and value in people
coming to the Board in-person and making that effort to show up and
participate like we are.
G. Yuhas thinks that if people have something to say to the Board they
should come in person. It was too easy for people to come on the line and
complain and not have to come to a meeting.
P. Kirby said we have taken a lot of public comment at meetings.
D. Greenbaum thinks the Board has been more than accommodating when
it comes to receiving and taking public comment. He thinks there is going
to be some effort on all boards and commissions to have some remote
aspect to their in-person meetings. He thinks it is worthwhile to hold one
more meeting virtually and see where we are at in April.
J. Schiller said whatever we decide is not a static decision. We can revisit
this and tweak it to something that works best.
S. Moore added that as a matter of equity, remote participation has been
helpful for those with children or with transportation or mobility issues.
She appreciates the School Committee’s process where people must sign
up for public comment by a certain time beforehand, and those are the
people who are permitted to speak at the meeting. Written comments may
also be submitted ahead of time. There is a thoughtfulness to it. It might be
something worth considering.
D. Greenbaum said he looked into how that would work and was told that it
is allowed as long as we make it known at the posting of the agenda that
people need to register to speak before the meeting.
P. Kirby agreed with S. Moore that remote participation has been helpful
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for people. He is hoping that maybe in the future when there are not as
many issues with COVID the number of people that want to vent about
stuff, as opposed to speak about an actual issue, is going to go down so we
may not need to set up a whole new system.
J. Schiller likes the School Committee’s process that S. Moore described.
We can see how it goes and if it becomes an issue, we can move to a
process like that. He said he tends not to be a very formal person, however
there were some bothersome things about some of the public comments,
but he also feels it was a little barometer of where people were at.
P. Kirby likes the informality and thinks it makes our meetings
approachable.
D. Greenbaum said the Board can table the vote on the format for future
meetings until April. With the Governor’s extension, we can meet virtually
in April and then reassess. He thinks waiting one more month makes sense.
P. Kirby moved that the Board hold its April meeting virtually and
then hold its May meeting with an in-person hybrid model with a
remote component.
S. Moore 2nd.
Roll call vote:
G. Yuhas – yes
D. Elias – yes
S. Moore – yes
P. Kirby – yes
J. Schiller - yes
Motion passed by a vote of 5 to 0.
5. Chairperson Communications J. Schiller said COVID numbers look much better. He feels like we made
the right call at the right time. He is proud of this Board and how proactive
and reactive we have been when it comes to public health. The fact that we
were unanimous in all of our decisions is remarkable and good for the City.
6. Public Health Announcements
/Reports/Updates
a. Public Health S. Darmody said our COVID case count numbers are improving. She said
Nurse Report she is happy to continue to update the Board as they see fit as far as
reporting.
b. Health Agent Report
D. Greenbaum said we are in budget season. He submitted part of the
budget and he will be working to complete it this week. He is putting in
some requests and he will keep the Board up to date.
He asked what kind of reports the Board is looking for in the future as we
transition from a pandemic to an endemic. He asked if the Board wants to
continue receiving similar reports as before or if they have an idea of what
information they would like to see.
G. Yuhas said she does not think the positive COVID case count numbers
are as accurate now since so many people are doing at-home testing. She
would prefer to see the hospitalizations once a week.
P. Kirby said he gets G. Yuhas’ point, but he would still like to see the PCR
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test results, but weekly.
J. Schiller thinks that even though the numbers are not as accurate because
so many people are taking home tests, they have given a sense of what is in
the community.
D. Greenbaum said we are one of, if not the only, community reporting
daily case numbers. He agrees that the numbers are not necessarily
reflective of what we are seeing. At the end of March, the Stop the Spread
testing sites are supposed to close. We have not received an extension
notification yet. It is his understanding that the testing sites will not be
extended past the end of March, so it will be a little more difficult to get the
PCR test results and case counts. He thinks weekly is more than sufficient
at this point, but if the Board feels strongly that they want them daily we
will continue to do that.
He wanted to clarify that when he is talking about reports, we used to do a
monthly report about our activities, the number of inspections, etc. If the
Board still finds value in that we are happy to put them together and
provide them on a monthly basis. If there is other information they would
like to see, just let him know.
J. Schiller said it would be important to know if there are cases of TB and
some other unusual infections.
S. Darmody said she can provide monthly counts of reportable diseases and
can also provide information on outbreaks and clusters.
S. Moore said she likes to see the data on infections diseases, like flu, etc.,
She feels that COVID has changed the nature of work so much, and she
does not feel like she needs to know about every activity the Department
does in a month. If there are any new initiatives, it does not necessarily
need to be in a written report; they can be mentioned at a meeting, and it
will end up in the minutes.
P. Kirby agreed and said COVID made us all realize that we did not
necessarily need the monthly activity reports. We were doing it because
that is what we have always done.
J. Schiller said he will leave it up to D. Greenbaum and S. Darmody to
inform the Board about what they feel are important issues.
D. Greenbaum said several departments are working on an initiative with
the Mayor to do some data point presentations on the things they do; for us
it would be the number of inspections, permits, etc. The first presentation is
supposed to be at the end of this month. He can share the presentation with
the Board. It might give some good information from a data perspective of
what is going on with the Department.
c. Administrative Report Copy available at BOH office.
d. Council Liaison Updates M. Riccardi said the Urban Agriculture Ordinance joint public hearing will
be on Tuesday, March 15 th at 6:30pm.
A Wetlands Ordinance was recently submitted to OLLA (Ordinances,
Licenses and Legal Affairs). There was a working group last year if anyone
is interested.
An ordinance submitted to the Public Health, Safety and Environment
Committee by Councilor Varela regarding a poly Styrofoam ban for food
service and retail establishments is currently under discussion. There will
be a Board of Health aspect for enforcement.
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7. New Business/Scheduling of Future
Agenda Items
Items that could not be N/A
anticipated prior to the
posting of the agenda
MEETING ADJOURNED: G. Yuhas motioned to adjourn. P. Kirby 2nd.
Roll call vote:
D. Elias – yes
G. Yuhas - yes
P. Kirby – yes
S. Moore – yes
J. Schiller – yes
Motion passed by a vote of 5 to 0.
7:54pm
Respectfully submitted,
Maureen Davis Next regularly scheduled meeting is
Clerk of the Board Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 7:00pm
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Agenda
CITY OF SALEM,
MASSACHUSETTS
BOARD OF HEALTH
98 WASHINGTON STREET, 3RD FLOOR
SALEM, MA 01970
TEL. (978) 741-1800 DAVID GREENBAUM
health@salem.com HEALTH AGENT
KIMBERLEY DRISCOLL
MAYOR
BOARD OF HEALTH MEETING NOTICE AND AGENDA
REVISED NEW ZOOM MEETING INFORMATION
Notice is hereby given that a meeting of the Salem Board of Health will be held on Tuesday, March 1, 2022, at
7:00 p.m. via remote participation in accordance with Chapter 20 of the Acts of 2021.
Every effort will be made to ensure that the public can adequately access the proceedings in real time, via
technological means. In the event that we are unable to do so on matters not requiring a public hearing, we will
post on the City of Salem’s website an audio or video recording, transcript, or other comprehensive record of
proceedings as soon as possible after the meeting.
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MEETING AGENDA
1. Call to Order
2. Approval of Minutes:
a. Board of Health Meeting, February 8, 2022
3. Additional discussion regarding the proposed Urban Agriculture Regulations
4. Discussion and vote on the format for future Board of Health meetings.
5. Chairperson Communications
6. Public Health Announcements/Reports/Updates
a. Public Health Nurse Report
b. Health Agent Report
c. Administrative Report
d. Council Liaison Updates
7. New Business/Scheduling of Future Agenda Items
Items that could not be anticipated prior to the posting of the agenda
David Greenbaum, Health Agent
cc: Mayor Kimberley Driscoll, Board of Health, City Councilors
Next regularly scheduled meeting is April 12, 2022, at 7:00pm
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