City Council
Regular MeetingSaratoga Springs, NY · November 21, 2000
Minutes
CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CITY OF SARATOGA SPRINGS, NEW YORK
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 21, 2000
CITY COUNCIL ROOM
7:00 P.M.
PRESENT : Thomas Curley, Commissioner, Public Safety
Kenneth Klotz, Mayor
Michael Lenz, Commissioner, Finance
Bernard Mirling, Commissioner, Accounts
Thomas McTygue, Commissioner, Public Works
ALSO PRESENT: Phillip Klein, Board of Supervisors Representative
Anthony Scirocco, Board of Supervisors Representative
STAFF PRESENT: Christine Gillmett-Brown, Deputy Commissioner, Finance
Carol Kennedy, Deputy Commissioner, Accounts
William McTygue, Deputy Commissioner, Public Works
Jeffrey Wait, City Attorney
PUBLIC HEARING B 2001 BUDGET
Commissioner Michael Lenz said this is the second public hearing for the 2001 budget. He said he hoped
the budget would be adopted this evening. Commissioner Michael Lenz opened the public hearing.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue pointed out that the Sewer Budget would be reduced by $100,000.
Gene Corsale, Outlook Avenue, asked if there had been any provision in this budget to deal with the
drainage issue on the west side. Mayor Kenneth Klotz said he had distributed the capital budget plan and
that item had been included in year three of that plan.
Tim Mabee, representing the Downtown Special Assessment District, said the SAD was requesting a
partnership with the City for the purchase of a hand-held computer to monitor parking in the downtown
area. He said the SAD has been working on this matter for several years but because of the cost of the
equipment they have not moved forward. He said the price of this equipment is approximately $22,000.
He said the SAD was proposing this evening to share that cost with the City and asked that the City
consider earmarking $12,000 for this purchase.
Tim Mabee said there are a great many benefits through this purchase including an increase in revenue
through the issuance of tickets. He said the SAD simply cannot cover the whole cost of this equipment.
Commissioner Thomas Curley said there are many violators of the two-hour limit by simply moving their cars
a little. He said this equipment will allow for the vehicles to be tracked in a more effective and efficient
manner. He said also there is a reduced amount of paper. Commissioner Thomas Curley said this is a good
opportunity and he hoped these funds could be included in the capital budget.
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Commissioner Thomas McTygue said there is a great deal of downtown employees who abuse the two-hour
parking limit. He said this equipment would give the City the opportunity to better track those violators.
Tim Mabee said this is a short term solution to a long term problem. Commissioner Thomas Curley said
there has been a lot of good feedback from other communities on this equipment. Tim Mabee said if this
purchase was approved, it could be up and running in about six weeks.
Dennis Brunelle, Economic Opportunity Council, said EOC has been operating in this City at their Broadway
location for nearly 30 years. He said recently they decided to take a risk and have now identified a
location next to the Espey site for a new building and they have already begun to clean up the site. He
said they have requested some funding through the Community Development Block Grant for curbs and
sidewalks at a cost of approximately $30,000 but have not been funded. He said the total cost of their
project is approximately $1.1 million of which they have been able to raise $667,000 so far. He said
tonight they were requesting that the Council consider contributing $30,000 to this project. Dennis
Brunelle pointed out that more than $1 million from EOC goes back into the community through the WIC
program, construction costs, etc.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz asked if they would be starting a fundraiser soon. Dennis Brunelle said they are
scheduled to begin a drive on December 8. Dennis Brunelle pointed out that this is the first time this
organization has asked for money for their own existence. Mayor Kenneth Klotz asked what was their
annual operating budget. Dennis Brunelle said approximately $2.2 million which includes federal and state
monies for various programs. He said that funding comes from the Health Department, Department of
State (administrative costs), Housing and Urban Renewal, etc. He said most of the money is federal
money. Dennis Brunelle said the funding for these programs is based on performance. He said if they
don’t produce, they are not funded.
Phil Klein, EOC Board member, said he supported this request. He said this organization does a lot of good
work throughout the County but they are headquartered in the City. He said Senator Bruno’s office has
recently awarded them with $100,000 and the County has offered $50,000.
There being no one else wishing to speak, Commissioner Michael Lenz closed the public hearing.
DOLLARS FOR DECORATIONS
Commissioner Thomas McTygue said he would like to take this opportunity to encourage everyone to
participate in the “Dollars for Decorations” fundraiser. He said the downtown special assessment has
undertaken a program to raise funds to purchase some old fashion lighting for the holiday season. He said
in order to continue this momentum, they have established a fundraising program. He said there will be
a box located in front of City Hall during the Victorian Street Walk, staffed by volunteers from City Hall,
accepting donations.
PUBLIC HEARING B COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
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Mayor Kenneth Klotz said this public hearing is continued C from the November 8 meeting. He said it is
on his agenda this evening for a vote. He said Commissioners will be asked to vote on the original package
this evening with a more detailed review and revisions at a later time.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz opened the public hearing. There being no one wishing to speak, Mayor Kenneth Klotz
closed the public hearing.
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Kenneth Klotz called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
MAYOR=S OFFICE
Shelters of Saratoga HOME Grant Project B Presentation
Janine Farmer, SOS Director, said this is a follow up to previous discussions with the Council on their
grant application. She said they are in the application process at this time with a door-to-door campaign
under way. She said they will accept applications from November 27 to December 1. She said they are
looking at a core area of 25 houses but may expand outside of that area if there are enough funds. She
said this grant is for owner-occupied homes that are in need of bringing the residence up to building code.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz asked what was the maximum grant per home. Janine Farmer said $15,000 per
house. She said if there are funds remaining they will expand outside of the small core area. She said
she will meet with Brad Birge, Community Development, and the Weatherization program representatives
to be sure that services are not being duplicated. Commissioner Thomas McTygue asked who would do
the work. Janine Farmer said the homeowner can bring in his/her own contractor, however, they will most
likely work from the Community Development list of contractors. She said they will require three bids for
any work to be done. Commissioner Thomas McTygue asked if there would be a final inspections. Janine
Farmer said yes. She said though that there will probably not be any structural changes to the residences,
but rather just bringing the buildings up to code. However, inspections, if required, will be done. She
said the work to be done should include items such as roofs, foundations, electrical, etc.
Sales Tax Consultant B Report
Mayor Kenneth Klotz said he had been working on the sales tax issue for some time now in trying to
determine whether it is in the City’s best interest to levy our own sales tax. He said he had talked to
KMPG, Ernst & Young and Tom Kirschner on this issue and he hoped to receive packages from them in the
near future in order to make some comparisons. He said he would have more information for the next
Council meeting.
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Commissioner Michael Lenz asked what were the qualifications for this consultant and what would it cost
the City. Mayor Kenneth Klotz said the cost would likely be between $25,000 and $30,000. He said it
was worth spending this little amount of money to get expert advice.
Commissioner Thomas Curley said he would like to review the packets of material sent by these companies.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz said he would distribute that information.
Commissioner Michael Lenz asked who was Tom Kirschner. Mayor Kenneth Klotz said he is a local economic
consultant. Commissioner Michael Lenz asked what were the backgrounds of the other companies. Mayor
Kenneth Klotz said the two larger firms are national firms with staff that specialize in this area. He said
both firms have various expertise in governmental affairs, finance, taxation, etc. Commissioner Michael
Lenz asked if the Council, collectively, would make the decision on who is hired or will the Mayor do so.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz said he would be glad to entertain advice from Council members on this matter.
Nimo Property B Negative SEQR Determination (00-225)
Jeff Wait, City Attorney, said it appears that some Home Rule Legislation is required before the City can
sell this parcel because of it is park property. He said, though, the City first needs to issue a negative
SEQR determination. He said once the negative SEQR is done, the state parks offices need to be
contacted and then draft legislation needs to be developed.
Commissioner Michael Lenz asked what was the time frame. Jeff Wait said once the contract is signed,
the survey is done, easements are agreed on and the home rule legislation is approved, it should be
finalized by the end of next summer.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz moved and Commissioner Thomas McTygue seconded to issue a negative SEQR
determination for the Excelsior Avenue Ice Rink/Nimo land. Ayes all.
Recreation Department/Armory Contract Amendment
Mayor Kenneth Klotz moved and Commissioner Bernard Mirling seconded to amend the contract between
the Recreation Department and the Armory for the rental of space and increase the amount by $800. Ayes
all.
1999 Comprehensive Plan Amendments (00-226)
Mayor Kenneth Klotz moved and Commissioner Bernard Mirling seconded to approve the amendments to the
1999 Comprehensive Plan as presented and to also issue a negative SEQR determination.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz said this is the first phase of the recommendations from that committee.
Commissioner Michael Lenz asked about the comments received from the Saratoga County Planning Board.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz said their concern was about the overlay area, however, they did recommend
approval despite that noted concern. Jeff Pfeil said there are no zoning issues in the overlay area and
their comments were more just an awareness factor. Commissioner Thomas McTygue asked if this would
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prevent the City from doing any zoning changes in those areas. Jeff Pfeil said no. Commissioner Michael
Lenz asked if these amendments were similar to what the Open Space Committee wanted the first time.
Jeff Pfeil said yes.
Ayes all.
Capital Budget and Capital Plan (00-227)
Mayor Kenneth Klotz moved and Commissioner Bernard Mirling seconded to approve the 2001 capital
budget and the 2002-2006 long range plan as presented (Attachment A)
Mayor Kenneth Klotz said this was the culmination of a very lengthy process which started at the beginning
of the year. He said long lists from both DPW and DPS were submitted for projects that need to be done.
He reminded Council members that on a selective emergency basis some of the capital projects were done
this year. He said his proposal this evening was as follows: old debt -- $1,098,885; new projects paid in
cash -- $519,000; new debt -- $128,000 for a total of $1,745,885. He said revenues would come from
property tax, other, capital reserve fund and fund balance.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz said projects to be paid for through the capital reserve fund include fire dept.
building upgrades, casino repairs, city hall renovations, Woodlawn Avenue Parking lot, salt shed, DPS
office repairs, brick repair at City Hall and Congress Park bathrooms. He said the projects to be bonded
include items such as the Grande Industrial Park. He said they hoped to get some funding for the Grande
Industrial Park from the County.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue said his department has been discussing the issue of bathrooms with the
Saratoga County Arts Council. He said they need to work out the details, but it appears that bathrooms
can be added to this building since the plumbing comes in from the rear.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz said he has tried to through this capital budget to get the much needed work done
and to keep the tax rate down by using some of the surplus money.
Commissioner Michael Lenz said the bathroom is a welcomed addition for the City. He said he had spoken
with Kevin Kling, Network Administrator, and he has determined that it is very likely that the$60,000
allotted for computers this coming year may not be needed. He asked if the Council might be willing to
use that $60,000 for another capital project such as the West Avenue water loop.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue said there had been a request for upgrading the fields, however, he felt
that was a maintenance issue and it would be funded through the general budget.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz said he had mixed feelings on eliminating the computer items.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue said eliminating the computer items would give him a much needed cushion.
He said there are sewer problems in the Beekman Street area and there are some other projects that may
need to be contracted out. It was agreed that the $60,000 would be left in the budget with the
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understanding that it could be used as a cushion. Commissioner Michael Lenz said some of it could be used
for the purchase of the handheld computer for DPS as requested by the Special Assessment District.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue said the City would receive a consent order from the state in the near
future that would require some funding.
Commissioner Michael Lenz clarified that $15,000 would be set aside for the purchase of the hand-held
computer for DPS. Christine Gillmett-Brown, Deputy Commissioner, said when the City goes out to bond,
at that time we need to be specific on what it being bonded.
Commissioner Michael Lenz moved and Commissioner Thomas Curley seconded to eliminate the $60,000
for the computer and reallocate those funds as follows: $15,000 for the purchase of a hand-held
computer for DPS and $45,000 for capital contingency line. Ayes all.
Commissioner Michael Lenz said a capital reserve fund would be established and unlike the City Center
fund this fund would have no conditions placed on it.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz asked that the motion include the City Attorney’s review of this fund. Commissioners
agreed.
Commissioner Thomas Curley said the last time the City purchased a pumper it cost $216,000. Chief Bob
Cogan, from the audience, said he estimated the cost of a pumper, fully equipped would be about
$275,000. He said they are ready to move forward with sending this item out to bid. Commissioner
Thomas McTygue suggested that he proceed with the bidding process.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz suggested that DPS pursue other funding sources for the digital fingerprinting
equipment before seeking those funds from the Council.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue asked if the funds from the landfill closure ($180,000) had been set
aside. Deputy Commissioner Christine Gillmett-Brown said yes. She said there was still about $10,000
outstanding. Commissioner Thomas McTygue said those funds should be received soon and he would
follow up on where they were.
Commissioner Thomas Curley said when the Council begins to think about long range planning, a fire house
on the east side should be considered. Mayor Kenneth Klotz said the City Attorney will review the fund
balance of $140,000 to find an approved mechanism to use those funds in the capital budget.
Ayes all.
United Way B Report
Mayor Kenneth Klotz reported that the United Way campaign would take place from December 4-8, 2000.
He encouraged City Hall employees to be generous.
Recreation Commission/City Council Meeting -- December 14, 2000
Mayor Kenneth Klotz reported that a special City Council meeting had been scheduled for December 14
to discuss the overall operation of the Recreation Department.
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Appointments
Mayor Kenneth Klotz announced the appointment of Bob Cleary and Gordon Boyd to the Community
Development Block Grant Committee.
Washington Street -- Phase II Final Payment
Mayor Kenneth Klotz moved and Commissioner Bernard Mirling seconded to approve the final payment for
the Washington Street Phase II project in the amount of $24,266. Ayes all.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue informed Council members that the County had made an application for a
grant in the amount of $250,000. He said the grant application had been accepted and the City would
receive $50,000 shortly.
ACCOUNTS DEPARTMENT
Approval of October 17 & November 6 meeting minutes
Commissioner Bernard Mirling moved and Mayor Kenneth Klotz seconded to approve the October 17 and
November 6 meeting minutes with minor corrections. Ayes all.
Award of Bid B City Center B Floor Maintenance Products
Upon the recommendation of the City Center Authority, Commissioner Bernard Mirling moved and
Commissioner Thomas Curley seconded to award the bid for floor maintenance products to Ecolab, of St.
Paul, MN, or an authorized Ecolab distributor, MN for various prices (lowest acceptable bidder). Ayes
all.
Award of Bid B 2001 HVAC Service Contract
Upon the recommendation of the City Center Authority, Commissioner Bernard Mirling moved and Mayor
Kenneth Klotz seconded to award the bid for HVAC Service for 2001 to Technical Building Services of
Ballston Spa in the amount of $6,874 (lowest acceptable bidder). Ayes all.
Award of Bid B 2001 Dust Mop and Walk Off Mat Service
Upon the recommendation of the City Center Authority, Commissioner Bernard Mirling moved and Mayor
Kenneth Klotz seconded to award the bid for dust mop and walk-off mats to Coyne Textile Service of
Schenectady for various prices (only bidder). Ayes all.
Tax Certiorari Cases (00-228)
Jeff Wait, City Attorney, said he was here this evening on two matters. First was the Ten Springs
Brewery on Excelsior Avenue. He said they challenged their assessment in 1998 and 2000. He after
negotiations with this property owner, he was recommending to the Council that a reduction of $100,300
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with a total refund of $2,570 be approved. He said through these negotiations, they agree to not
challenge their assessment for three years. Commissioner Thomas McTygue asked about the assessed
value. Commissioner Bernard Mirling said they had been assessed at $1.037 million which is now proposed
to be reduced to $937,300. Jeff Wait said he had spoken to the school board on this proposal and they
had no specific concerns.
Jeff Wait said the second matter was for Miranda Realty/Metro. He said he was recommending that their
assessment be reduced by $100,000 from $500,000 to 400,000. He said this company also challenged
their assessment in 1998 and 2000. He said they too agree to not challenge their assessment for three
years. He said the total refund is $2,563. Mayor Kenneth Klotz asked if everyone had agreed to these
proposals. Jeff Wait said yes.
Commissioner Michael Lenz asked what had happened to the 1998 case and why was it being settled now.
Jeff Wait said no agreement had been reached until now. Commissioner Michael Lenz asked how the
$100,000 figure for reduction had been determined. Jeff Wait said the City’s appraiser evaluates the
parcel and comes up with a range. He said a compromise is then reached between the parties.
Commissioner Michael Lenz asked what would happen if we defended the assessment. Jeff Wait said it
would require a full appraisal. Commissioner Michael Lenz asked about the school board’s feelings on this
matter. Jeff Wait said they expressed no strong feelings on settling. Commissioner Michael Lenz said
he realized that these were not very large numbers, but said in previous years, the City had taken the
stand to defend the tax role. He said the City needs to be firm on this issue and he did not want a
message to get out to property owners that our philosophy had changed. He said if we believe we have
an accurate role, we should defend that role. He asked for a history of the cases that have been settled
from January 1 to the present including the financial impact. Jeff Wait said he did not believe the City
had settled more cases than usual. He pointed out that this administration inherited these cases. He said
to date the City has settled five or six cases and they continue to work on three cases two of which are
ready for trial. Commissioner Michael Lenz asked what happened to the Price Chopper suit. Jeff Wait
said the City settled that suit with a total refund of $143,000 which was for a nine-year period.
Commissioner Michael Lenz said the Price Chopper dropped their case in the Town of Wilton, yet here is
Saratoga Springs they achieved a reduction. Jeff Wait said perhaps the assessed value in Wilton was
reasonable. He pointed out that assessments and appraisals are not an exact science. He said when
assessments are challenged, expert independent evaluations are sought. Jeff Wait said the City may
vigorously defend these suits, but the Council needs to first determine whether it is cost effective to do
so. He said there are cases such as the McDonalds on South Broadway that the City is not even discussing.
Jeff Wait said some of these cases could have been settled last year, however, after the elections in
November nothing was done.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz said we have an attentive City Attorney who has devoted a lot of time on this issue.
He agreed the City has settled some cases, however, further noted that some are going to trial. Jeff Wait
said there is potential exposure for the City in some of the larger cases. Commissioner Michael Lenz
agreed but said the City thought it had a good case in the Price Chopper case but yet we settled. He said
he would simply like a list of cases brought against the City, whether we have settled and the financial
impact. Commissioner Bernard Mirling agreed to that request. Jeff Wait said he had worked with school
board attorney on these cases. Commissioner Michael Lenz asked if the school board attorney was in
agreement. Jeff Wait said yes. Jeff Wait said the City’s approach this year has been to defend the cases
when appropriate after balancing all of the considerations.
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Commissioner Bernard Mirling moved and Mayor Kenneth Klotz seconded to approve the settlement, as
presented, with Ten Springs Brewery and Miranda Realty/Metro. Ayes: four; Nays: one (Commissioner
Michael Lenz). Motion carried.
Appraiser Contracts (00-229)
Commissioner Bernard Mirling said the appraiser contract had been discussed at a previous meeting and
it was his understanding that this contract should have been forwarded to Council for their approval. He
said after much research, his staff has found that was not done. Therefore, Commissioner Bernard
Mirling moved and Commissioner Thomas McTygue seconded to approve the contract with John Doyle,
appraiser, as presented.
Jeff Wait said the City has used Bill Hartman in the past, however, he is planning to retire. John Doyle
works with Bill Hartman.
Commissioner Michael Lenz asked about the costs. Jeff Wait said there are two fees -- one for
preliminary appraisal and another for hourly consultation fees. He said the trial appraisal fee is a
separate agreement.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz wondered why Commissioner Michael Lenz was concerned with these amounts. He
said there was a good deal of money spent last year on these issues and no one asked questions then. He
said the City is saving a great deal of money this year. Commissioner Michael Lenz did not disagree that
the City was saving money. Jeff Wait said the contract included two primary sections: preliminary/hourly
fee and then the separate section to hire on a cases by case basis.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue said he would be interested to see Bill Hartman’s contract from last year.
Commissioner Thomas Curley asked for clarification on this signed contract. He said it appeared to have
been signed on March 7. Commissioner Bernard Mirling said this item had been discussed by the Council
and it was his understanding that the contract should have been forwarded to Council members for
approval. However, that was not done.
Ayes all.
FINANCE OFFICE
Payroll
Commissioner Michael Lenz moved and Commissioner Bernard Mirling seconded to approve the following
payrolls: November 10, 2000B$296,841.77 and November 17, 2000-$310,640.30. Ayes all.
Warrants
Commissioner Michael Lenz moved and Commissioner Bernard Mirling seconded for the approval and
payment of the 2NOV20 warrant #2 through # 40 as follows:
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General Fund $ 248,974.06
City Center Authority 5,026.12
Water Fund 64,629.75
Sewer Fund 4,217.67
Capital Projects Fund 5,700.00
Special Assessment District -0-
Trust Fund -0-
Debt Service -0-
Community Development 58,014.93
TOTAL $ 386,562.53
and the MC110300 warrant #2 as follows:
General Fund $ 1,155.68
City Center Authority -0-
Water Fund -0-
Sewer Fund -0-
Capital Projects Fund -0-
Special Assessment District -0-
Trust Fund -0-
Debt Service -0-
Community Development -0-
TOTAL $ 1,155.68
and the MC110900 warrant #2 as follows:
General Fund $ 1,601.35
City Center Authority -0-
Water Fund -0-
Sewer Fund -0-
Capital Projects Fund -0-
Special Assessment District -0-
Trust Fund -0-
Debt Service -0-
Community Development -0-
TOTAL $ 1,601.35
and the MC201116 warrant #2 - #4 as follows:
General Fund $ 10,963.43
City Center Authority 424.79
Water Fund 437.44
Sewer Fund 352.28
Capital Projects Fund -0-
Special Assessment District -0-
Trust Fund -0-
Debt Service -0-
Community Development -0-
TOTAL $ 12,177.94
Ayes all.
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Budget Amendments
Commissioner Michael Lenz moved and Commissioner Thomas Curley seconded to approve the budget
amendments as presented (Attachment B). Ayes all.
Budget Transfers
Commissioner Michael Lenz moved and Commissioner Thomas Curley seconded to approve the budget
transfers as presented (Attachment C). Ayes all.
2001 Budget B Discussion & Vote (00-230)
Commissioner Michael Lenz said the 2001 general budget had been distributed last week. He said based
on previous conversations this evening concerning the capital budget, there would be some small alterations
to the general fund budget. Mayor Kenneth Klotz asked if this budget was identical to what was
presented last week. Deputy Commissioner Christine Gillmett-Brown said the cuts as previously presented
by Commissioners Michael Lenz and Thomas McTygue were included.
Commissioner Michael Lenz said it was his understanding that Commissioner Thomas McTygue was
interested in another employee for the recreations fields.
Commissioner Michael Lenz said this budget maintains a surplus of $517,000 and not $600,000. Mayor
Kenneth Klotz said that would leave the general operating budget short. Commissioner Michael Lenz said
no. He said because of the previously approved changes to the capital budget, there is about $83,000 to
work with. He said to maintain a zero percent increase he proposed to use that $83,000.
Commissioner Michael Lenz moved and Commissioner Thomas Curley seconded to approve the 2001 general
budget as presented.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue moved and Mayor Kenneth Klotz seconded to amend the proposed 2001
general budget by increasing the recreational/labor account by $30,000; increasing the line items for
the east and west side recreation field improvements by $10,000 each; and to increase the Casino revenue
line by $20,000. Ayes all.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz said he believed the Council was close to an agreement. He said the Council has tried
to meet the needs of all of the departments while being cautious with taxes. Mayor Kenneth Klotz said
he only very recently heard Commissioner Michael Lenz call for a zero percent tax levy increase. He said
he was now proposing to commit to a zero percent tax increase but use some additional funds for things
that the community wants. Commissioner Michael Lenz asked for specifics.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz distributed a proposed 2001 General Fund Budget totaling $22,210,788 (Attachment
D). He said he proposed the following: move $25,000 from the Mayor’s budget to Finance for the sales
tax consultant; add $2,000 for the Center for the Family; add $4,000 for Preservation Foundation; add
$1,000 for vehicle repair and add $6,000 for Community Development all of which are under the Mayor’s
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budget. He said he proposed to reinstate some cuts in the Accounts Department and Recreation
Department budgets. He said his proposed budget does not include the previously approved changes from
earlier this evening.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz said he proposed that the property tax rate remain the same. He said this budget
simply allows for some flexibility for the City.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz moved and Commissioner Bernard Mirling seconded to approve the proposed 2001
general fund budget as presented by Mayor Kenneth Klotz. Commissioner Thomas McTygue clarified that
this proposed budget did not affect the previously approved changes made earlier this evening. Mayor
Kenneth Klotz agreed.
Commissioner Michael Lenz said this proposal is a dramatic change. He said the calculations have been
done and this proposal would likely increase the levy. He said he had been talking about a zero percent
tax rate increase for a while now. Mayor Kenneth Klotz said there would be no increase in the levy if the
assessed value remained the same from last year. He said the total assessed value had gone up about four
percent though. Commissioner Michael Lenz said there was confusion on tax rate and tax levy. He said
the Mayor is talking about the tax rate while he has been talking about the tax levy.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz said he was referring to the increase in the total taxable assessed value of the City.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz said it was appropriate this year to take advantage of the growth rate and a zero
percent tax rate and to also meet the needs of the City. Commissioner Michael Lenz said he proposed and
is committed to a zero percent increase in the rate. Mayor Kenneth Klotz said his proposed budget would
not increase the tax rate. He said his budget allows for growth through revenues.
Commissioner Michael Lenz moved to table this motion to allow his staff time to do calculations on this
proposal. He said he wanted to be fair to the public and offer them the tax rate and the levy impact
before voting on this budget. He requested that the City Council meet next week, but Commissioners
McTygue and Mirling said they would be out of town.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue suggested giving Deputy Commissioner Christine Gillmett-Brown time this
evening to run the calculations. Mayor Kenneth Klotz said the impact on the tax rate is zero. Commissioner
Michael Lenz said he would like to do the calculations to be sure. Commissioner Thomas McTygue said the
proposed changes are not major and there is a contingency fund.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz said the Council had been discussing the budget for quite some time now. He said
we are now at a point where the numbers are reasonable and he is comfortable with the budget as he
presented.
Commissioner Thomas Curley said the Council has an obligation to taxpayers to be sure of the levy before
adopting this budget. He said as a courtesy to Commissioner Michael Lenz he should be given the
opportunity to review these numbers.
Commissioner Michael Lenz said he may, in fact, support Mayor Kenneth Klotz’s proposal; however, he
simply wanted time to review it. He said if Mayor Kenneth Klotz had come to him earlier today, they could
have talked about this proposal. He said his staff has been more than willing to work with Mayor Kenneth
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Klotz on budgetary issues.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz said he proposed a zero percent tax rate. He said Council members would be voting
on the same tax rate as last year. He said the Council is aware there is a 4.1 percent increase in the total
taxable assessed value over last year and applying the same tax rate will generate 4.1 percent more
revenue. Commissioner Michael Lenz agreed but said that Mayor Kenneth Klotz also made specific
recommendations for additions to the budget which could affect that rate. Commissioner Michael Lenz
said he simply wanted some time to review this proposal and run the calculations.
Commissioner Michael Lenz moved and Commissioner Thomas Curley seconded to table this item until the
end of the meeting to allow Deputy Commissioner Christine Gillmett-Brown time to do the calculations.
Ayes: four; Nays: one (Mayor Kenneth Klotz). Motion carried.
2001 Water Budget (00-231)
Commissioner Thomas McTygue moved and Commissioner Thomas Curley seconded to adopt the 2001 Water
Budget at $2,578,686. He said there would be no increase in water rates (Attachment E). Ayes all.
2001 Sewer Budget (00-232)
Commissioner Thomas McTygue moved and Commissioner Bernard Mirling seconded to adopt the 2001
Sewer Budget at $2,448,347. He said this would equate to a 14 percent increase in the budget due to
the Saratoga County Sewer Authority (Attachment F). Ayes all.
2001 Special Assessment District Budget (00-233)
Commissioner Michael Lenz moved and Mayor Kenneth Klotz seconded to adopt the 2001 Special
Assessment District budget as presented (Attachment G). Ayes all.
2001 City Center Authority Budget (00-234)
Commissioner Michael Lenz moved and Commissioner Thomas Curley seconded to adopt the 2001 City
Center Authority Budget as presented (Attachment H). Ayes all.
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS
Leak Detection Survey B Additional Payment
Commissioner Thomas McTygue moved and Commissioner Bernard Mirling seconded to approve an
additional payment to Leak Detection Survey in the amount of $4,173 to cover the cost of surveying an
additional 39 miles. He said the original approval was for the inner area of the City in the amount of
$11,950. He said they would now like to expand this survey to the outer area. He said the money was
within the water budget. Ayes all.
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County Sewer Rates
Commissioner Thomas McTygue said that he had sent a letter to the County Sewer Authority expressing
his dissatisfaction with the rate to be charged to the City even though the bill had been lowered by
approximately $214,500. He said this is still a 14 percent increase over last year’s rate. He pointed out
that the City contributes 30 percent of the flow but pays 49 percent of the cost. He also noted that the
residents outside of the sewer district received a 40 percent reduction in their costs.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue said the water pump at the water plant is pumping about the same as last
year so there is no increase in that area. He said the County says they are using the flow, however, there
is no record of a reading. He said we have do not know how the Towns of Wilton and Greenfield are
calculated through this system.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue said there were 194 building permits issued last year in the City. He said
the sewer commission’s projections are based on an increase of 412,400 g.p.d. He said 250 g.p.d. average
should the number used for projections.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue said the only true way to find out would be to meter the system. He said
most areas are metered and only two or three meters would need to be installed. He said our
representatives to the sewer authority should insist on metering. He also questioned the county’s authority
at bringing in outside users to this system. He said the City is now subsidizing their use. He then
submitted a copy of a letter sent by him to the sewer authority representatives on July 28, 2000
(Attachment I).
85 Beekman Street -- DPW & Community Development Project
Commissioner Thomas McTygue said DPW had begun work at 85 Beekman Street. He said the City will
renovate this parcel and then it will be sold next spring or summer. He said $10,000 from community
development funds will be used. He said at a later date, he would ask that line items be established with
between $40,000 and $50,000 to fund this project. He said the funds would come back to the City when
the sale took place.
Young & Sommer Payment
Commissioner Thomas McTygue moved and Commissioner Bernard Mirling seconded to approve a payment
to Young & Sommer in the amount of $3,794.90 for work at the Town of Wilton Planning Board. He said
this was not in connection with the appeal. He said the funds are available within the water budget. Ayes:
four; Nays: one (Commissioner Michael Lenz). Motion carried.
R.J. Taylor Reimbursement (00-235)
Commissioner Thomas McTygue moved and Mayor Kenneth Klotz seconded to approve the payment to R.J.
Taylor in the amount of $42,500 as the result of a law suit over water line fees. He said this amount
would be refunded through the water line connection fee account. Ayes all.
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Casino Old Oven
Commissioner Thomas McTygue said he recently received two bids for the purchase of the old oven at the
Casino. He said he would sell the oven to the Glen Sanders Mansion in the amount of $225.
Gift Bricks (00-236)
Commissioner Thomas McTygue moved and Commissioner Bernard Mirling seconded to extend the contract
with Gift Bricks for one more year. He said they recently did another installation of 400 bricks and hope
to hold a ceremony in the spring. Ayes all.
Interlaken Subdivision B Catch basin cleaning
Commissioner Thomas McTygue moved and Mayor Kenneth Klotz seconded to authorize DPW to clean the
catch basins in the Interlaken Subdivision. He said the city would charge $650 for this services. Ayes
all.
Executive Session
Commissioner Thomas McTygue requested an executive session. Council members agreed.
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY
Firefighters’ Hepatitis B Vaccination
Commissioner Thomas Curley said the City is required to maintain protection for the firefighters for
Hepatitis B. He said in order to maintain compliance he would like to waive the bid.
Commissioner Thomas Curley moved and Commissioner Bernard Mirling seconded to waive the bid in the
amount of $3,400 with Saratoga Care to do the inoculations for Hepatitis B. Ayes all.
Annual Software Support Renewal Agreement
Commissioner Thomas Curley moved and Mayor Kenneth Klotz seconded to renew the lease and service
contract for software in the police department to Admit Computer Services in the amount of $5,370. Ayes
all.
Set Public Hearing Local Law Enforcement Grant
Commissioner Thomas Curley requested that a public hearing be set for December 5 at 6:40 p.m. on the
Local Law Enforcement Grant. Council members agreed.
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Disaster Drill
Commissioner Thomas Curley said he recently received a letter for the Department of Navy expressing
their compliments to members of the City staff in connection with the recent disaster drill. He said events
such as these are a good thing for the City.
Executive Session
Commissioner Thomas Curley moved and Commissioner Thomas McTygue seconded to adjourn to executive
session at 9:30 p.m. Council members returned at 9:40 p.m. and reported that no action had been taken.
Commissioner Thomas Curley moved and Commissioner Bernard Mirling seconded to adjourn until the
Finance Department was ready to return to the table with the calculations on the proposed budget. Ayes
all. Council members returned to the table at 10:00 p.m.
2001 General Budget (00-230)
Commissioner Michael Lenz moved and Commissioner Thomas Curley seconded to remove the 2001 budget
proposal as presented by Mayor Kenneth Klotz from the table for discussion.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz said he was proposing a zero percent tax rate increase. He said the difference
between his proposal and Commissioner Michael Lenz’s proposal was only about one percent of the total
budget. He said he was proposing to spend just a little more and to maintain the tax rate of zero. He said
the ordinary taxpayer would not have a change in his/her tax rate. He said the additional revenue will
come from the new construction in the City.
Commissioner Michael Lenz said there is a clear distinction between the tax rate and the tax levy. He said
if the total assessed value does not increase, taxpayers would pay more. He said he and his staff have
worked for many weeks now on this budget and have developed a reasonable proposal which gives a little
break to the taxpayers and keeps the levy at zero percent. He said the Mayor’s proposal increases
expenditures by more than $200,000 over his proposal. He said the change in the capital budget of
$60,000 was a wash but the $30,000 increase in the expenditure in the recreation line would need to
come from surplus or property taxes. Mayor Kenneth Klotz said he would like it to come from the surplus.
Commissioner Michael Lenz said he wanted a zero percent tax levy and the Mayor’s proposal would bring
a four percent increase to the levy. He said he would not support the Mayor’s proposal.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz said the central feature of his proposal was there be a zero percent tax rate and
the budget built around that number. He said the difference should be made up with the surplus.
Commissioner Thomas Curley asked Commissioner Michael Lenz if he needed more time to review this
proposed budget. Commissioner Michael Lenz said he did not need more time to review it and would not
support the proposal.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz said the Council has been quite close on the budget and he never heard Commissioner
Michael Lenz say anything about zero percent levy until very recently. Mayor Kenneth Klotz said he had
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stated publicly that he was working on keeping the rates down. He said that Commissioner Michael Lenz
has stated he would not support a tax increase and his proposal would do just that.
Commissioner Bernard Mirling said the average taxpayer simply wants to know if they will pay more or not.
He said through the Mayor’s proposed budget, they will not pay any more taxes than last year.
Commissioner Michael Lenz said that was not true. Commissioner Bernard Mirling said this is a modest
budget and it will allow the City to pay for things that will run the City well. He said he was comfortable
with keeping the tax rate the same.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue said Public Safety has the largest increase in the City’s budget. He said
much of it is due to contract negotiations though. He said it was likely that Commissioner Thomas Curley
would be back to the table over the next year looking for more money. He said if the Council is willing
to approve contracts then they need to be prepared to support increases in taxes.
Commissioner Thomas Curley said his department recently added a code enforcement officer and two
police officers. He said the increase to his budget after those expenses is about $60,000. He said his
department provides many services to this community and funding is required for those services.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz said his proposed budget calls for an increase in funding for Public Safety.
Commissioner Thomas Curley said the real issue here this evening is that the Mayor brought a proposed
budget to the table at the last minute with no prior discussions with the Finance Department and with no
time for Commissioners to review the proposal.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue said if Commissioner Thomas Curley had a problem with the budget, he
would recommend that $200,000 be removed from Public Safety’s budget which would allow the taxes
to remain at the level that Commissioner Michael Lenz recommended. He pointed out that Public Safety
had the largest increase in the budget and also offered no cuts.
Mayor Kenneth Klotz said he was surprised to find that the Commissioners did not think that there might
be another proposal brought to the table. Commissioner Thomas Curley said the issue was that it was
brought forth at the last minute.
Commissioner Michael Lenz said it is unfortunate that the budget process had come to this. He said his
office spent a lot of time working with the Mayor on the capital budget and with Commissioner Thomas
McTygue on his needs. He said it was unfortunate that Mayor Kenneth Klotz did not come to his office
to work with his staff or him on this proposal.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue called the question. Mayor Kenneth Klotz clarified that the vote would be
that Commissioner Michael Lenz’s budget be amended to reflect his proposed budget (Attachment J). He
said the tax rate is zero percent and additional expenditures would come from the surplus.
Roll Call vote: Commissioner Bernard Mirling: aye
Commissioner Michael Lenz: nay
Commissioner Thomas McTygue: aye
Commissioner Thomas Curley: nay
Mayor Kenneth Klotz: aye.
Amendment approved.
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Mayor Kenneth Klotz clarified that the additional spending for the recreation department will come from
the surplus and the tax rate will still be zero percent.
Roll Call Vote: Commissioner Bernard Mirling: aye
Commissioner Michael Lenz: nay
Commissioner Thomas McTygue: aye
Commissioner Thomas Curley: nay
Mayor Kenneth Klotz: aye.
Amended motion approved.
ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Bernard Mirling moved and Commissioner Thomas McTygue seconded to adjourn the meeting
at 10:30 p.m. Ayes all. There being no further business, Mayor Kenneth Klotz adjourned the meeting at
10:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Kathy Moran
Clerk
Approved:
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