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CITY OF SARATOGA SPRINGS CITY COUNCIL MEETING CITY COUNCIL ROOM MONDAY, NOVEMBER 4, 2002 6:15 P.M PRESENT: Commissioner Thomas Curley, DPS Kenneth Klotz, Mayor Commissioner Michael Lenz, Finance Commissioner Thomas McTygue, DPW Commissioner Stephen E. Towne, Accounts ALSO PRESENT: Anthony Scirocco, Supervisor Phil Klein, Supervisor STAFF PRESENT: Bruce Brown, Deputy Commissioner, DPW Christine Gillmett-Brown, Deputy Commissioner Finance Debbie Harper, Deputy Commissioner Accounts Bob King, Deputy Commissioner, DPS Hank Kuczynski, Deputy Mayor Jeff Wait, City Attorney PUBLIC HEARING 2003 Budget Commissioner Michael Lenz said he had been advised by the County Treasurer=s Office that there had been an error in prior sales tax collections which had been identified by the state. He said the County would be receiving $3.2 million for old sales tax collections. He said that our share of the $3.2 million would be $226,025. He said that money was wired to the City today. Commissioner Michael Lenz said on October 1, Council members submitted proposed budgets and on October 21 he distributed the first proposed budget to Council members. He said it included the total revenue, expenditures and tax levy information. He said a workshop was held on October 29 where Council members went through the budget line by line. He said another public hearing is scheduled for November 19 at 6:30 p.m. Commissioner Michael Lenz then opened the public hearing. Edward Dweck, representing the Saratoga Lake Improvement Protection District, distributed the proposed watershed study that they had been working on at a cost of $238,000. He pointed out that the lake has an economic benefit to the County of $7 million and much of that comes to the City. He said last year was the first year the City did not contribute to their budget. He asked that the Council restore funding for SLIPD in the amount of $7,500. Commissioner Thomas Curley asked about their insurance commitments for next year. Edward Dweck said there had been a slight elevation in that cost. He also informed Council members that they need to submit their budget to the County by November 1. Mayor Kenneth Klotz asked how SLIPD interacted with the County. Edward Dweck said SLIPD is made up of five members chosen from the membership of the Saratoga Lake Association. He said those individuals are recommended to the County and the County has the ultimate authority to appoint them to SLIPD. He said they have a paid part time secretary and treasurer and three summer workers who harvest the weeds. Mayor Kenneth Klotz asked about their tax levy. Edward Dweck said the property owners around the lake are taxed. Commissioner Thomas McTygue asked about appointment to the SLIPD. Edward Dweck said the SLA holds an annual meeting in July with between 150 and 170 members attending. He said they vote for five members, one from each of the surrounding towns/city, as representatives to the SLIPD. The names are then forwarded to the County Board of Supervisors for appointment. He said it is a three-year appointment. He noted there are between 1,300 Page 1 of 19 and 1,400 property owners around the lake. Commissioner Thomas McTygue suggested that the Council take the time at another meeting to discuss the watershed management plan with SLIPD. Jackie Pardon, member of the Media Center Project, said the City=s cable contract has been up for some time. She said as part of cable contracts, cities are generally allowed public access channels. She informed Council members that Troy had recently negotiated their contract with Time Warner. She said they have discovered that Time Warner has been significantly underpaying the entire region. She noted that there would be a region wide meeting in December that the City should attend and she would distribute information on that meeting. Jackie Pardon said there are four points that the City should be looking at: 1) The City should engage an auditing firm to look at fiscal payments at a cost of about $9,000 for that service. 2) A field organizer should be hired to prepare the first steps of this process at a cost of about $10,000 for travel and $1,000 for conferences. 3) The City should begin placing the amount received from the contract in a fund set aside from the general fund. She suggested that the amount received in 2001, $285,000 be the cap to be placed in the general fund and anything beyond that be placed into the special fund. 4) The Council should hire consultants and advisors with expertise on franchise renewal. Susan Howard said she recently moved to Saratoga Springs. She said she was in Washington, D.C. in 1996 when the telecommunications act was passed and she lobbied for the e-rate. She said under the e-rate, cable companies promised to give discounts to libraries, schools and hospitals. She said, though, that the City needs to be more vigilant in seeing that promise is fulfilled. She informed Council members that in a previous position, she obtained a grant to purchase video equipment and they taped programs which were played on the local public access channels. She said those programs were well received by the community. She said the City has a good opportunity at this time and she encouraged the City to hire a professional consultant to assist the City to ensure the residents of quality public assess stations. Commissioner Stephen Towne asked about the cost and the possibility of sharing the cost. Jackie Pardon said the more communities involved would certainly lower the cost. Commissioner Stephen Towne asked for an estimated cost over the life of this project. Jackie Pardon said Troy is looking at approximately $100,000 to $120,000 for three years. Ralph Pascucci, local video production company, said there are many organizations looking for high tech video production services. He said he does two pro bono projects each year for local organizations. He said there is great value for these organizations to have video production services available and shown on public access television. Jean Tarrant, 41 Cliffside Drive, said she was here concerning the Recreation Department=s budget. She said she has been involved in the Saratoga Ice Skating Club and is a past president of that club. She said the Recreation department has done an excellent job of juggling the requests for rink time and they are an asset to the City. She said their club is facing a monetary crunch due to lower membership. She pointed out that there are more ice rinks in the area creating more competition. She said last year their club purchased more than $100,000 in ice time and they hope to do the same again. She asked that the Council not raise the rates for ice time and to not diminish the amount of hours available for clubs such as hers. Lew Benton, 29 Thoroughbred Drive, Chair of the Planning Board, asked the Council to consider establishing the assistant planner position. He said there has been significant development in Saratoga Springs and it appears it will continue. He said the Planning Board holds two meetings per month along with two workshops. He said because of the level of work that needs to be done for those meetings, they have not been meeting the comprehensive planning needs of the community. He said they would like to review topics such as a recreation facility, public safety facility, water source needs, etc. Lew Benton then noted that the City appears to be on track with the sales tax revenue. He noted that tracking the first three months of sales tax revenue it was at $775,000 which was $135,000 more than in previous years. He said the extra money also received as previously reported this evening will push the City over $840,000 for a monthly average. He said there will also continue to be more Aold@ sales tax money coming to the City through these audits. He said we will continue to receive old money even though we opted out of the sales tax formula. Lew Benton also noted that the mortgage tax and admissions tax revenues were Page 2 of 19 City of Saratoga Springs City Council Meeting Minutes Monday, November 4, 2002 up significantly and the OTB revenue should increase. He said the building permit revenue line was also up significantly. He said it would be good for the Council to know what the current fund balance is. He said he hoped that next year there would be some home rule legislation for the City to gain its fair share of the OTB revenue. He said this City is the only city in New York that does not receive all of the OTB surcharge revenue. He said the County gets between $4 and $5 million in OTB revenue. He pointed out that this City generates more than $21 million each year for Saratoga County and he hoped that the Council would seriously consider home rule legislation. Martha Willman, said she moved here last fall and she takes her father to the Senior Citizens Center on a regular basis. She said she was surprised to see that the City has the lowest funding in the County for senior centers. She said the Senior Citizens Center is not receiving their fair share. She said they have limited space at the center and due to that lack of space, there are limited classes. She said in some cases, classes are simply not offered due to the lack of space. She said there needs to be more funding for the appropriate programs for seniors. She said seniors are a fast growing population and we should fund more so it will be there tomorrow for the next generation of seniors. She said there needs to be a good foundation to build on. She encouraged the Council to look at this issue and to fund the center appropriately. Suzanne Strauss, 12 Granite Lake Drive, President Saratoga Winter Club, said they have a membership of 56 skaters and have been in existence for more than 50 years. She said they have had seven Olympians from this club with two going to Utah last year. She said their club has 56 skaters but 40 of them are under 12. She said the club has changed considerably over the years with many more young skaters. She noted that this club is recognized nationally due to the outstanding coaches, skaters and volunteers. She noted that Pat Maxwell has coached in four Olympics. She informed Council members that she serves on the USA National Skating Board in the northeast region. She said Saratoga Springs hosts a weekend summer camp with more than 70 attendees from around the country. She said this weekend the City would host the short track event and next year they will host the America Cup event which will have more than 140 skaters. She commended Linda Terricola and her staff for all of the assistance offered to the club and she encouraged the Council to not increase the fee for ice rink time and to maintain the hours available for clubs. Becky Dixon, OASIS, said her organization has submitted a grant application for $7,460 in funding which was the same as last year. She said their organization does not turn anyone away who needs help. She said they offer a sliding fee scale. She encouraged the Council to maintain that funding for their organization. Cary Werner, Saratoga Springs Preservation Foundation, said the SSPF has been in existence for more than 26 years. She said their primary charge is education and advocacy for historic buildings. She said they currently have a contract with the City to maintain archive files. She said in their application they request to maintain those files as well as additional funding to digitize the archives for the WEB site and additional funding to support the City Planner with the Design Review Commissioner. Mayor Kenneth Klotz asked if they have an individual on staff who could provide that support to the City Planner. Cary Werner said it would be filled with both volunteers and staff depending on the workload. Commissioner Stephen Towne asked if the SSPF had applied for grants for digitizing the records. Cary Werner said no. John Witt, representing the Saratoga Builders Association, said the developers in the area are concerned with the amount of time it takes to get a building permit. He said at one point the time had decreased to about a week but it has again risen to between three and four weeks. He said there is a significant amount of funds generated through building permit fees and he requested that the Council consider seriously hiring another building inspector. Taylor Morrison said he supported Jackie Pardon=s proposal and encouraged the Council to seriously consider her proposal. Page 3 of 19 City of Saratoga Springs City Council Meeting Minutes Monday, November 4, 2002 Commissioner Michael Lenz thanked everyone for their thoughts on the budget. He said the next public hearing would be held on November 19 at 6:30 p.m. Oak Ridge Zoning Amendment Mayor Kenneth Klotz said this was a public hearing on an amended petition from the Oak Ridge Development, LLC, for a zoning map amendment that would change the designation of approximately 100 acres of the petitioner=s property off of Dyer Switch Road from Rural Residential-1 (single family home on two acre lots) to Suburban Residential-1 (single family home on one acre lots). He said the required advisory opinions from the City and County Planning Boards had been received. Mike Toohey, attorney representing the applicant, explained that the applicant owns approximately 200 acres along Meadowbrook/Dyer Switch Roads and his request is to rezone approximately 100 acres. Mike Toohey said this does not involve any wetlands. He said the applicant initially made a presentation before the Comprehensive Plan Committee in November 2000. He said at that time they requested a designation of MDR-1 in this area which was ultimately adopted by the Comprehensive Plan Committee and their proposal tonight is consistent with the Comprehensive Plan. He said they then appeared before the Planning Board with a higher density proposal but has since scaled it back. He said they received a 5:1 vote from the City Planning Board in favor of this application. He noted that there are many developments near this parcel that have a much higher density. He said if the Council adopts this zoning amendment request, they will then go back to the Planning Board for subdivision and site plan review. He said there will be multiple opportunities for the public to review this proposal. He said they are requesting a density of one unit per 40,000 square feet. Mayor Kenneth Klotz opened the public hearing. Ageo Frizzera, 80 Dyer Switch Road, said he is quite familiar with this project. He said he was concerned about balance though. He said the City, through the Comprehensive Plan, identified this area as an area with homes on two acre lots. He said though that there are many pre-existing homes on less than one acre. He said that it seemed to be a logical trend to maintain the one acre zoning and it seemed to be a reasonable request. Mayor Kenneth Klotz asked Geoff Bornemann for clarification on the zoning amendment request. Geoff Bornemann said the Comprehensive Plan gives a range of acceptable density in this district and the acceptable range is between one and two acres. He said the proposal is consistent with the Comprehensive Plan. Alayne Ball, Open Space Project, said she appeared before the Planning Board with comments on the higher density, however, the Open Space Project supports the proposal as submitted this evening with the lower density. Lew Benton, said he wanted the Council to fully understand the Planning Board=s position on this matter. He encouraged the Council to take a good look at points three and four in their advisory opinion letter and to review the project in its totality. He said there are other significant influences that will impact the development of this area and this site specifically. There being no one else wishing to speak, Mayor Kenneth Klotz closed the public hearing. CALL TO ORDER Mayor Kenneth Klotz called the meeting to order at 7:20 p.m. with the Pledge of Allegiance. Page 4 of 19 City of Saratoga Springs City Council Meeting Minutes Monday, November 4, 2002 Authorization for submission of grant application for the Regional Transportation Improvement District (02- 237) Mayor Kenneth Klotz said this is a complex issue concerning the submission of grants for the regional transportation improvement program. He said there are seven proposals ready for submission and the deadline for submission is November 15. He said this program requires a 20 percent match. He said CDTC has requested that if more than one proposal is submitted that they be prioritized. He said a memorandum outlining the proposals and rankings had been submitted to Council members. Mayor Kenneth Klotz asked Geoff Bornemann, City Planner, why there were seven proposals. Geoff Bornemann informed Council members that it could potentially take up to ten years to achieve the funding on any one of these proposals. He also noted that the proposals are not all competing against one another because there are different categories with different pots of money. He said the committee believed that it was most desirable to place the transportation needs first on the list. He pointed out that in his memorandum to the Council there was an error in that he had accidentally switched items one and two. He said the correct ranking was for the Church Street project to be first and Weibel Avenue second. He also noted that some of these projects may be eligible for state funding of 15 percent. Commissioner Thomas Curley said the West Avenue project was a prime example of the 80/15/5 split for funding. He also reminded Council members that it took years for that project to come to fruition. Commissioner Stephen Towne asked when the results of this application process would be known. Geoff Bornemann said April or May 2003. He said the recommendations are then broken down over a six year period. Commissioner Michael Lenz asked what categories these projects fell under. Geoff Bornemann said the last three were in a different category than the first four. Commissioner Michael Lenz asked what was the probability of the City getting any one of these grants. Geoff Bornemann said in the last round the City got four. Commissioner Stephen Towne asked how the ranking was determined. For example he said he would have rated the sidewalks near the schools much higher. Geoff Bornemann said the last three projects, although they are safety related, were more pedestrian related than traffic related. Commissioner Stephen Towne asked about the enhancement in the areas where there were no sidewalks. Geoff Bornemann said what it really meant was an enhancement to the existing system. He reminded Commissioner Stephen Towne that the sidewalk projects would come from a different pot of money than the traffic related projects. Geoff Bornemann informed Council members that there is also some flexibility with the funding in that if many applications were to come in for a specific area of enhancement, i.e., sidewalks, CDTC has the ability to move funding from one pot to another. Mayor Kenneth Klotz moved and Commissioner Thomas Curley seconded that the Mayor be authorized to submit the seven grant applications as presented, noting the switch in ranking for the Church Street project to number one and Weibel Avenue to number two. Ayes all. Grant Application for Railroad Run Trail Extension (02-238) Mayor Kenneth Klotz said the Council has received a memorandum describing the proposed grant application to extend the Railroad Run Trail from New Street to the Spa State Park. He said this grant application is being prepared on the City=s behalf by the Saratoga Springs Open Space Project. He said this grant application is also due on November 15, 2002. He said all of the details of the proposal, including the total cost are not yet complete, however, there is a limit of $100,000 for the grant with a 20 percent local match. He said the City=s local match of up to $20,000 is expected to be a combination of cash and local work force account labor contributed by various City Departments. Mayor Kenneth Klotz moved and Commissioner Thomas McTygue seconded to authorize the Mayor to submit the grant application. Ayes all. Page 5 of 19 City of Saratoga Springs City Council Meeting Minutes Monday, November 4, 2002 Saratoga Rowing Club for Zoning Amendment to the Interlaken PUD B Appearance Mayor Kenneth Klotz said the City has received a petition from the Saratoga Rowing Club for a zoning text amendment to the Interlaken Planned Unit Development District that would allow docks and a boathouse facility on Fish Creek near the Route 9P bridge. He said the Council must determine if it wants to accept this petition for study and forward it to the City Planning Board for an advisory opinion. Mike Ingersoll, The LA Group, said this is an opportunity for the Saratoga Rowing Club. He said they have been working with the Interlaken HOA, Peter Belmonte, developer, and Tom Frost, architect, on using a portion of this property for the rowing club. He said there is a pond that is part of the Interlaken PUD. He said the pond was originally zoned as a marina facility for Interlaken with more than 100 docks. He said Peter Belmonte has agreed to a land donation that would allow the rowing club to finally have a home. He said as part of this project, some of the original agreements for docking right, up to 68, would still need to be respected and the same level of service for the homeowners in this PUD must be provided. He said, though, this will be a not-for-profit operating the site. He said they plan to store 30 shells in a building designed by Tom Frost and parking for up to 75 cars. He said there is an existing driveway and they proposed to carve into the side of the hill the entrance to this area. Therefore, the impact to the neighbors on the hill will be minimal. He said it was likely there would be additional plantings also. He said there will be no public docking or petroleum products sold here. He said they are here this evening to request that the Council to forward this application on the Planning Board for an advisory opinion. Mayor Kenneth Klotz said this was an exciting project. He asked if they had worked with the neighbors on this proposal. Mike Ingersoll said there have been several briefings with the HOA. He said they will not be able to mitigate all of their concerns, however, most could be. He said they are aware of their concerns and their comments will be integral. Peter Belmonte said there are more than 100 families in the Regatta View subdivision and it will not be possible to gain unanimous support. He said there have been a number of concerns and many have been mitigated. He said the homeowners who overlook the marina will be the most affected and they will work closely with them. Mike Ingersoll noted that they have already scaled back the project by about 20 percent. Mayor Kenneth Klotz moved and Commissioner Thomas McTygue seconded to accept the petition for study and to send it to the City Planning Board for an advisory opinion. Ayes all. Contract for State Grant for Historic Preservation Seminars (02-239) Mayor Kenneth Klotz reported that the City has recently received notification that the Design Review Commission will receive a $7,500 grant from the New York State Office of Parks Recreation and Historic Preservation to organize a set of training workshops for property owners on the proper techniques for the preservation of historic structures. He noted that the public workshops will be held this winter and the information from them will be posted on the City Hall WEB site. He said the Design Review Commission hopes to work with the Saratoga Springs Preservation Foundation on this program. He said the local match for this grant will be provided by in-kind services. Mayor Kenneth Klotz moved and Commissioner Stephen Towne seconded that the Mayor be authorized to sign a contract with the state for the grant of $7,500. Ayes all. Spring Run Trail B Confirmation of Approval by Previous Memo (02-240) Mayor Kenneth Klotz moved and Commissioner Thomas McTygue seconded to confirm the previous approval by memo for a SEQR negative declaration on the Spring Run Trail. Ayes all. Page 6 of 19 City of Saratoga Springs City Council Meeting Minutes Monday, November 4, 2002 Presentation on Cable Television Negotiations B Sue Buskey C Confirmation of Approval by Previous Memo Mayor Kenneth Klotz moved and Commissioner Thomas McTygue seconded to confirm the previous approval by memo for $200 for funding of expenses for Sue Buskey for her trip here on consulting on television cable company contracts. Ayes all. Pursuing Quality in the Capital Region B Report Mayor Kenneth Klotz said he had received notice of an article on Pursuing Quality in the Capital Region and that article had some very good comments. He then quoted some of the issues that Planning Boards face throughout this region. He said Saratoga Springs was cited as a model community. UHA Donation B Bonacio Construction Mayor Kenneth Klotz moved and Commissioner Thomas McTygue seconded to accept a $100 donation from Bonacio Construction to be used for a reunion of VanRaalte Mill workers. Ayes all. Fiber Tech Agreement (02-241) Jeff Wait, City Attorney, said there had been a request from Fiber Tech for an agreement to string fiber optic cable during the summer of 2001. He said apparently Fiber Tech has an agreement with Verizon to use the existing poles. He said the City agreed to enter into a franchise agreement with Fiber Tech and under that agreement Fiber Tech would pay the City five percent of their gross revenues from the use of fiber optic cable. He said this is not residential use but rather it is commercial. Jeff Wait said Fiber Tech has hundreds of miles of cable throughout the Capital District, however, there are only about ten miles within the City. He said that agreement and Fiber Optic finally getting Aon line@ happened in January 2002. He said he just recently received the franchise agreement along with a check for $1,000 for the one subscriber they have on line. He said this is a fairly standard agreement. He said as part of their agreement with the City, Fiber Optic will make two connection to City owned facilities. He said they will work with Kevin Kling on that matter. Mayor Kenneth Klotz asked if the City would be committed to only one company through this connection. Jeff Wait said no. Mayor Kenneth Klotz moved and Commissioner Thomas McTygue seconded to authorize the Mayor to sign the contract as recommended by the City Attorney. Ayes all. Clean Air Month Mayor Kenneth Klotz announced that October was clean air month. He said he received the memorandum from the State late on October and this was the first public opportunity to announce this initiative. ACCOUNTS DEPARTMENT Approval of City Council October 15 meeting minutes Commissioner Stephen Towne moved and Commissioner Michael Lenz seconded to approve the October 15 meeting minutes. Mayor Kenneth Klotz said he had not yet had time to fully review the minutes, but from what he had read he had found a number of errors. He asked that the motioned be withdrawn. Commissioner Stephen Towne and Michael Lenz agreed. Page 7 of 19 City of Saratoga Springs City Council Meeting Minutes Monday, November 4, 2002 Commissioner of Deeds Commissioner Stephen Towne announced the appointment of the following individuals as Commissioners of Deeds with a term of two years: Linda DeRusso, Metzger & Sons; Jason Tetu, Police Department and Robert Wilson, Police Department. Vote: Risk Management Review Committee (02-242) Commissioner Stephen Towne said this issue had been discussed at the last Council meeting. He reminded Council members that he had appointed a committee of experts in the insurance/risk management field and they had developed a series of recommendations. He then asked Harry Bucciferro, Capital Risk Management, to summarize those recommendations. Harry Bucciferro reminded Council members that in 1989 a safety policy was adopted by the Council and a committee established. He said, however, not much had happened in recent years on safety/risk management. Harry Bucciferro then reviewed the recommendations of the committee as follows: 1) recommended that the Council adopt a revised safety policy statement that reflects a strong commitment to a Safe City Program; 2) recommend that the Council authorize the following positions to implement the Safety Policy and the Safe City Program: City Risk Manager and Human Resource Administrator; 3) recommend that the Council approve the property/casualty and worker=s compensation insurance premiums and associated self insurance account be allocated by department in the 2003 budget. Mayor Kenneth Klotz asked if there was a policy statement. Harry Bucciferro said yes and read the policy. Harry Bucciferro said the position of Risk Manager could be a consolidation of two existing positions in City Hall, therefore, should be cost neutral. He said the Risk Manager would chair the Safety Committee. Harry Bucciferro pointed out that the allocation of insurance premiums would not increase the budget but would simply spread the cost among department thereby making the departments more accountable. Mayor Kenneth Klotz asked about the methodology for allocation of those funds. Harry Bucciferro said in some cases it would be easy, i.e., vehicles, employees while in others, a formula would need to be devised. Commissioner Stephen Towne moved and Mayor Kenneth Klotz seconded to adopt recommendation #1 - a revised safety policy statement that reflects a strong commitment to a Safe City Program. Ayes all. Commissioner Stephen Towne moved and Commissioner Thomas Curley seconded to adopt recommendation #2 B implementation of a City Risk Manager as a full time position. Commissioner Stephen Towne said there had been a part time risk manager and a full time insurance coordinator. He said the part time risk manager had resigned and Cindy May, insurance coordinator, had indicated her desire to retire early next year. He said with the consolidation of these two positions, the new Risk Manager position would be cost neutral. Commissioner Michael Lenz said he would like to see this motion contingent upon the position being included in the 2003 budget and the adoption of the 2003 budget. Commissioner Thomas Curley asked what would happen if Cindy May did not retire. Commissioner Stephen Towne said it was not his intent to have an increase in employees and if Cindy May did not retire, the Risk Manager position would not be filled. Commissioner Stephen Towne moved and Commissioner Thomas Curley amended the motion to adopt recommendation #2 B implementation of a City Risk Manager as a full time position contingent upon it being included in the 2003 budget and the adoption of the 2003 budget. Ayes all. Page 8 of 19 City of Saratoga Springs City Council Meeting Minutes Monday, November 4, 2002 Commissioner Stephen Towne moved and Commissioner Thomas Curley seconded to adopt recommendation #2 B accelerate the establishment of Human Resources Director position contingent upon inclusion in the 2003 budget and adoption of the 2003 budget. Commissioner Stephen Towne said he did not believe that the Council should accelerate the establishment of this position, at this time because of the uncertainties in the 2003 budget, but he felt obliged to bring the recommendation forth. Ayes: two (Mayor Kenneth Klotz and Commissioner Thomas McTygue); Nays: (Commissioners Stephen Towne, Michael Lenz and Thomas Curley). Motion denied. Commissioner Stephen Towne moved and Commissioner Michael Lenz seconded to adopt recommendation #3 B allocation of property/casualty and workers compensation insurance premiums, uninsured insurance related costs and associated self insurance accounts by department in the 2003 budget. Commissioner Thomas Curley said he would not support this motion. He said if the City=s goal was risk management allocation of expenses would not solve the problem. He said with a solid risk management program that applies the principles of risk management a savings would follow. He said his employees have had hundreds of hours of training. He said he did not want to see the Aunknowns@ budgeted in his department and the control should remain one department. Commissioner Thomas McTygue agreed. Commissioner Stephen Towne said the basis behind this recommendation is that costs have been extremely high. He said those costs in the last two years have exceeded the premiums by nearly twice the rate. He said the previous safety program did not have the strength to make substantive improvements and the part time risk manager did not have the authority to make changes. He said allocating this cost in one department without having the authority to make decisions or to control losses or offer training would not manage the cost. He said the insurance has now reached $1 million of the City=s budget and costs need to be controlled. He said he does not have the authority to control those costs, however, with the allocation by department, each department head would have that ability. He noted that if departments exceed their goals for safety, they could establish an incentive program. He said the decision and management of these costs should be in the hands of those who control the costs. Commissioner Thomas McTygue said because the details of the allocation had not yet been worked out, he would not support this proposal. He said it was too vague and there did not appear to be a benefit. He pointed out that his department has previously saved substantial amounts of money only to be penalized. He said he would like to see the details of an employee incentive program as well as any benefits that may arise at the end of the year. He noted that the Council just approved the Risk Manager position and that person will be in the position to report to the Council. Mayor Kenneth Klotz said he was concerned that this would lead to finger pointing and he would not support this proposal. Commissioner Stephen Towne said this recommendation makes it clear that each department would bear the cost of the losses. He said currently it is all lumped into one department with no ability to control. Commissioner Thomas Curley asked how it would be divided among departments. Commissioner Stephen Towne said for some items it was easy, i.e., vehicles and worker=s compensation, however, a methodology would need to be developed for other items. He said the potential for savings and incentive programs is available to the extent that each department has less accidents. He said the savings by department could be substantial. He also noted that the deductible has risen from $2,500 to $25,000. He said if a department does not have an accident, then there would be $25,000 available for an incentive program. Commissioner Thomas Curley noted that in his department the risk for an accident is much higher because they have Page 9 of 19 City of Saratoga Springs City Council Meeting Minutes Monday, November 4, 2002 emergency vehicles responding to emergency situations. He said he believed that the Risk Manager position would have the authority to review these losses and take action. He suggested that perhaps penalties for those employees who continually cause a loss be considered. Commissioner Stephen Towne said both DPW and DPS are the two departments who have the ability to control the costs. He said the losses in those departments drive the premiums and premiums are based on our loss history. He said he understood that the risk was higher in DPS, however, they also have the ability to control the costs and he does not have the authority to tell another department how to control their costs. He said the only individuals who can control costs are the department heads. Commissioner Thomas Curley said he believed a Risk Manager would have that authority. Bill McTygue, Director, Utilities, said he could use a full time safety officer in his department. He said the Department of Labor rules are extremely complex and the City needs a full time safety officer with training and knowledge in this area. He said that individual also needs to have enforcement powers. He said the Council also needs to enlist the support of the employees. He said accidents do happen but there is a need to minimize those accidents. He said a full time individual focusing on these issues through training, education and enforcing the policy could be a great asset. Ayes: two (Commissioner Stephen Towne and Michael Lenz); Nays: three (Commissioner Thomas McTygue and Thomas Curley and Mayor Kenneth Klotz). Motion denied. Commissioner Stephen Towne thanked Harry Bucciferro and members of the committee for their many hours of work on this proposal. Public Assembly Ordinance B Vote (02-243) Commissioner Stephen Towne reminded Council members that this was on his agenda at the last meeting. Tony Izzo, Assistant City Attorney, said since that time they have allowed more public comments on this issue. He said that due to those meetings with tent installers they have made some minor revisions to the proposed ordinance. He explained that those businesses in the business of erecting tents, may erect tents once they have a license from the City. He said the City will not require the tent installer to obtain a license for each tent erected. He pointed out that the business must adhere to all City and State codes and if they do not, they face revocation of their license. He said there were also some minor revisions to the insurance sections. He said those changes simply reflect the contemporary language usage of the insurance industry. Commissioner Stephen Towne moved and Commissioner Thomas Curley seconded to adopt the Public Assembly Ordinance as previously circulated on November 1 (Attachment A). Ayes all. Oak Ridge Zoning Amendment (02-244) Commissioner Stephen Towne reminded Council members that this proposal appeared before the Council on July 16 and was forward to the City Planning Board for an advisory opinion. He said on September 17 the Council set a public hearing for this evening and the application was then forwarded to the County Planning Board. He reported that County Planning Board approved the zoning amendment request. He informed Council members that in the letter from the City Planning Board it was noted that the proposed zoning map is not contrary to the general purpose and intent of the zoning ordinance, the proposed map amendment is in accord with the Comprehensive Plan and the application needed to provide a detailed map showing the precise boundaries of the zoning map amendments. He also noted that the Planning Board encouraged the Council to integrate the required environmental assessment for the proposed amendments with other proposed changes being prepared by the Zoning Ordinance Review Committee and they also encouraged the Council to review this proposal within the context of the draft zoning amendments that are currently being finalized. Page 10 of 19 City of Saratoga Springs City Council Meeting Minutes Monday, November 4, 2002 Commissioner Stephen Towne moved and Commissioner Thomas Curley seconded to issue a negative SEQR declaration and for the adoption of the zoning map amendment for the Oak Ridge Development as proposed. Mayor Kenneth Klotz asked for clarification. Geoff Bornemann said this is a map amendment. He said this area is zoned for two acres and the applicant is requesting one acre. He said the second issue was clustering. He said the Planning Board was being cautious in their advisory opinion because of the possible amendments to the zoning ordinance that will be coming before the Council within the next few months. He said the applicant may be interested in clustering and they believed that perhaps this request should be considered within the context of the zoning ordinance recommendations. Geoff Bornemann said if this proposal is approved this evening, the applicant would return to the Planning Board for subdivision approval. He said the Planning Board had some concerns about reviewing this application under the existing ordinance when there could be a change in the next few months. Mayor Kenneth Klotz said he was concerned about the degree to which the City continues to grow on the east side. He said it had been previously noted by a speaker during the public hearing that there is already a lot of high density use in this area. He said high density use brings other issues such as traffic and suggested that perhaps the growth should be slowed somewhat. He said he was in favor of this proposal, however, it was his understanding that this would be part of the larger package of zoning ordinance review. He said he was reluctant to review this proposal before the zoning ordinance proposal came forth. Commissioner Thomas McTygue said he liked this concept but it was time for his department to take a serious position on development due to the uncertainty of a water source. He said the Council has not been able to accept the DEIS and move forward and as much as he liked this proposal he would not support it because of the water source issue. He noted there were other substantial projects on Weibel Avenue and Crescent Avenue that would also be coming. He said the Council cannot continue to approve these types of projects without knowing from the where the water will come. Mayor Kenneth Klotz asked if the Planning Board was encouraging the Council to take a larger look at this project in relation to the recommendations that would be forthcoming. Geoff Bornemann said there were several issues including the issue of emergency services. He said the Zoning Ordinance Review Committee has a package that will come to the Council in January which includes recommendations on this parcel and the adjacent parcel. He said they were concerned whether the applicant would use the latest techniques for clustering. Bill McTygue, Planning Board member, said it was his understanding that the Planning Board believed that the entire zoning ordinance proposal should be addressed by the Council first. He said they did not want to see proposal such as this approved bit by bit. He said they also talked about the water issue and emergency services and they believed that safe yields for water need to be addressed through a policy. He said the City does not know what its primary water source will be in the future. Commissioner Michael Lenz asked Bill McTygue if he supported this proposal. Bill McTygue said yes because it was in keeping with the Comprehensive Plan. Commissioner Thomas McTygue said he would not support this proposal because of the water issue. He said whether it was adopted in the context of the existing or proposed ordinance it would not likely change the number of units and he would not support it. Bill McTygue said the project would be phased. Commissioner Michael Lenz asked how many units were proposed and would it change under either ordinance. Bill McTygue said the applicant would need to meet the criteria that is established by the City on safe yields. Commissioner Michael Lenz again asked if the number of units would change. Bill McTygue said the Planning Board does not have the ability to set water usage, only DPW did. Geoff Bornemann said there could be about a five percent difference in units between the existing and proposed ordinance. Commissioner Thomas McTygue said he believed there could be significant development in this area within Page 11 of 19 City of Saratoga Springs City Council Meeting Minutes Monday, November 4, 2002 the next two or three years and there needs to be some decisions on water. He said he planned to bring the DEIS back to the Council for discussion. Commissioner Stephen Towne asked about the build out and time table. Michael Toohey said this is a phased project with a build out of between five and ten years. He said he believed the Council would have time to address the water concerns during that time period. Commissioner Thomas McTygue disagreed with the build out time table. He said often those time tables are significantly reduced. He asked if the applicant was willing to lock into the proposed build out period. Michael Toohey said economics would dictate the build out. Ayes: three (Commissioners Towne, Michael Lenz and Thomas Curley); Nays: two (Mayor Kenneth Klotz and Commissioner Thomas McTygue). Motion carried. Empire Zones B Confirmation of Previous Approval by Memo (02-245) Commissioner Stephen Towne moved and Commissioner Thomas Curley seconded to confirm the previous approval by memo to include additional properties B Grande Industrial Park-Saratoga Warehouse Associates, Munter Enterprise, Unlimited Potential and Advantage Press within the Empire Zone boundary and to forward it to SEDC. Mayor Kenneth Klotz said he had some concerns with the way in which the Empire Zone Boundary Amendment process was unfolding. He said it appeared that any property owner who approached the Council was being included. Commissioner Stephen Towne said there is a rather long list of properties to be included in the Empire Zoning Boundary Amendment process, however, these proposals have been consistent with the City=s plans and have met the threshold of eligibility. He reminded Council members that round two of this process included Saratoga Hospital and the old Rip VanDam Hotel. He said this latest package includes parcels located within a commercial area. He said the latest proposals were forwarded to SEDC last Friday and the City should know in about three weeks if they are included. Commissioner Stephen Towne said the Council has only supported those applications that meet the threshold. Ayes all. Senior Citizens B Discussion and Vote (02-246) Commissioner Stephen Towne said he had been working the Senior Citizens Center on their request for long term funding from the City. He said in his memorandum to Council members, he had noted that they are seeking four year funding. He then reviewed the proposal submitted by the Senior Citizens Center. He informed Council members that the Center is currently receiving unrestricted financial support, restricted financial support and a subsidy for supplies from the City. He said the package forwarded to Council members includes their balance sheet and profit and loss statement. Commissioner Stephen Towne said the Center is looking to stabilize its funding over the next several years. He said their projections show they will continue to grow. He noted that 60 years of age and over accounts for nearly 25 percent of the City=s population. He said they also wish to expand their services and provide more appropriate services. He then reviewed the comparative funding of neighboring Senior Citizens Centers noting that funding goes from $65,000 to $288,000 locally. He said the per capita spending ranges from $61.45 to a low in Saratoga Springs of $9.12. Commissioner Stephen Towne moved and Commissioner Michael Lenz seconded that the level of funding as well as the multi-year funding as proposed in the Senior Citizens Center proposal be approved as presented. Commissioner Michel Lenz noted that this was contingent upon the funding being reviewed and included in the City budget. Commissioner Michael Lenz agreed this would give the Senior Citizens Center a better framework in Page 12 of 19 City of Saratoga Springs City Council Meeting Minutes Monday, November 4, 2002 developing their budgets. He also noted that this is a City owned building. He said he would support this motion. Mayor Kenneth Klotz said he would like to have this conversation within the framework of reviewing all of the applications seeking funding from the City. He said he was sympathetic to their needs but there needed to be a balance. Commissioner Thomas McTygue said the Seniors should take another look at their report because DPW does quite a bit of work at the Center that they have not included in their numbers. He said the per capita ratio would increase significantly if it was included. Commissioner Thomas McTygue pointed out that there are many other organizations such as OASIS, SSPF, SLIPD, EOC, Lake George Opera festival, etc. that are all seeking funding. He said perhaps we should be looking at all of them for long term funding. Commissioner Stephen Towne reminded Council members that they agreed to review the Arts Council funding. Commissioner Stephen Towne said this was an issue he believed in and he informed the Council that he was working with the seniors on this proposal. Commissioner Thomas McTygue said he was concerned about locking the City into long term funding when Commissioner Michael Lenz and Commissioner Stephen Towne continually cry poverty with the City=s budget. He said this was some sort of political deal. Commissioner Thomas McTygue said he had spent many hours at the Senior Center working with them and he is concerned about the services being offered, but he was not ready to lock the City into a multi-year deal. Commissioner Stephen Towne said if Commissioner Thomas McTygue was not happy with the motion then he could vote no. He said if this was an issue that Commissioner Thomas McTygue believed in then he could have picked it up. Commissioner Thomas McTygue said the Senior Center still has more than $115,000 in the bank. Commissioner Stephen Towne said that is committed to expansion. Commissioner Stephen Towne asked Commissioner Thomas McTygue if he would be willing to commit $100,000 to the Senior Center when the expansion project comes to fruition. Commissioner Thomas McTygue said that rather than expansion perhaps they should be looking at a new and bigger building. He said the Council should be supporting that proposal. Commissioner Stephen Towne encouraged Commissioner Thomas McTygue to take the lead with that issue. Commissioner Thomas McTygue said the existing parcel could be sold and a larger center could be constructed with the proceeds. Mayor Kenneth Klotz said there was no proposal at this time for a larger center. Jim Brophy, President Board of Directors Senior Citizens Center, said there was some confusion with their request for funding last year. He said they have since developed a comprehensive plan which had been distributed to Council members. He said the demographics included in this plan do not lie. Commissioner Thomas McTygue said the Seniors need to look at their proposal again. He said DPW provides services to the Center. Jim Brophy said they could look at that area again. Mayor Kenneth Klotz said he would support this proposal as long it was being looked at in the larger scope of funding. Commissioner Michael Lenz pointed out that this did not guarantee funding for the next four years but rather it was contingent upon the money being available for the next four years. Ayes all. Saratoga County 2003 Sewer Rates Commissioner Stephen Towne informed Council members that he had received a letter on October 24 from Stephen Dorsey, Office of the Saratoga County Attorney, regarding the 2003 Sewer Rate. He said in that Page 13 of 19 City of Saratoga Springs City Council Meeting Minutes Monday, November 4, 2002 letter it was noted that a public hearing would be held on November 6 at 9:00 a.m. at the Board of Supervisors Chambers. He said as requested in that letter, this notice was posted on the City Hall Bulletin board. FINANCE OFFICE Payroll B Approve Commissioner Mike Lenz moved and Commissioner Stephen Towne seconded to adopt the following payrolls: October 18, 2002 B $331,488.22; October 25, 2002 B $353,195.25; and November 1, 2002 $334,141.67. Ayes all. Warrants B Approve Commissioner Mike Lenz moved and Commissioner Stephen Towne seconded to approve the following warrants: 1NOV02 - Warrant 2-49 General Fund $547,529.85 City Center Authority 15,329.05 Water Fund 73,314.70 Sewer Fund 12,053.95 Capital Project 275,100.93 Special Assessment District 200.00 West Avenue SAD -0- Trust Fund -0- Debt Service 1,513.71 Community Development 13,979.20 $ 939,021.39 MC021023 - Warrant 2-4 General Fund $ 2,991.59 City Center Authority 10,576.94 Water Fund 2,462.50 Sewer Fund -0- Capital Project 1,024.00 Special Assessment District -0- Trust Fund -0- Debt Service -0- Community Development -0- $ 17,055.03 MC102402 - Warrant 2 General Fund $ 13,045.73 City Center Authority -0- Water Fund -0- Sewer Fund -0- Capital Project -0- Special Assessment District -0- West Avenue SAD -0- Trust Fund -0- Debt Service -0- Community Development -0- Page 14 of 19 City of Saratoga Springs City Council Meeting Minutes Monday, November 4, 2002 $ 13,045.73 MC021030 - Warrant 2-4 General Fund $ 3,965.84 City Center Authority -0- Water Fund -0- Sewer Fund -0- Capital Project -0- Special Assessment District -0- West Avenue SAD -0- Trust Fund -0- Debt Service -0- Community Development -0- $ 3,965.84 MC103002 - Warrant 2 General Fund $ 523,008.45 City Center Authority -0- Water Fund -0- Sewer Fund -0- Capital Project -0- Special Assessment District -0- West Avenue SAD -0- Trust Fund -0- Debt Service -0- Community Development -0- $ 523,008.45 Ayes all. Approval B Budget Transfers Commissioner Michael Lenz moved and Commissioner Thomas Curley seconded to approve the budget transfers as presented (Attachment B). Ayes all. Approval Budget Amendments Commissioner Michael Lenz moved and Commissioner Thomas Curley seconded to approve the budget amendments as presented (Attachment C). Ayes all. 2003 Budget B Discussion Commissioner Michael Lenz said the Council is required, by the charter to hold two public hearings on the budget. He said a workshop was held on October 29, a public hearing earlier this evening and the next public hearing will be on November 19 a 6:30 p.m. He said since the workshop he has met with some department heads and will continue to meet with others over the next week. He said once he had finished those meetings, a revised budget would be developed and distributed. He reminded everyone that, different from previous years, he had requested Council members to make cuts from their budgets before the initial submission. He said historically those cuts were made after the initial budget had been distributed. He said his plan this year was to submit a revised budget to Council members noting specific line items that had been adjusted. He said an adopted budget showing all of the line items would leave no guessing later on where and how much should be added or removed from a line. Mayor Kenneth Klotz agreed that adopting a budget that showed individual line items was more constructive. Page 15 of 19 City of Saratoga Springs City Council Meeting Minutes Monday, November 4, 2002 Commissioner Michael Lenz said he had distributed a memo to Council members on October 22 requesting that they review their fee structure. He said any adjustments to those fees should be reflected in the 2003 budget. Commissioner Michael Lenz said there had also been some discussion on what should be included in the capital budget. He said he would distribute a policy within the next few days that would clarify what was a capital expenditure. He said this would assist Commissioners in forming their budgets. Mayor Kenneth Klotz said it was his intention to distribute the capital budget within the next few ways. Commissioner Stephen Towne suggested waiting until the policy had been distributed. Mayor Kenneth Klotz said he preferred to distribute the capital budget sooner. Commissioner Thomas McTygue reminded everyone that he had already decreased his budget by $50,000 for the proposed High Rock Park Improvements. He said that brings his budget down to only a $68,000 increase for next year. DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS Acceptance of Donations Commissioner Thomas McTygue moved and Mayor Kenneth Klotz seconded to accept donations from Hayes Paving in the amount of$2,400 for work in Congress Park and also from Impressions of Saratoga for $620.77 for the sale of various Carousel items. Ayes all. Disability Insurance Rates Lowered B Announcement Commissioner Thomas McTygue announced that his department had been informed by our liability insurance carrier for the DPW hourly workers, the first rehabilitation Life Insurance Company of America, that the rates are going down from $23.00 per person to $13.75 per person. He said that should create a savings of approximately $2,400 per quarter. New Parking Lot on Church Street Commissioner Thomas McTygue announced the opening of the new temporary downtown parking lot located along Church Street, one block west of Broadway which contains 53 parking spaces for all day parking. He said this lot was made available through an agreement between the City and the Adirondack Trust Company, the owner of the lot. He then informed Council members that he would like to consider changing the current all day parking lot along the southern portion of the Woodlawn Avenue lot to a two hour lot. He said he had sent a memo to Commissioner Thomas Curley outlining this proposal. Tony Izzo reported it would not be necessary to hold a public hearing on this proposed changed. He said the signage would need to be changed. Commissioner Thomas McTygue said he would talk to the DBA about this proposal. Rescind Appointment and Re-Appoint (02-247) Commissioner Thomas McTygue said the Civil Service Office had recently reclassified Barbara Kidd=s position from that of a garage attendant to that of a Senior Account Clerk. He said that change was approved by the Council at the last meeting. He said, though, that since that time, it has been brought to his attention that moving her to the City Hall CSEA Unit decreased her hours from 40 to 33. He said it was not appropriate to have her work 33 hours and, therefore, he would now like to move that position back to the DPW CSEA unit at a grade 7 step 8. Deputy Commissioner Christine Gillmett-Brown pointed out that the DPW CSEA unit does Page 16 of 19 City of Saratoga Springs City Council Meeting Minutes Monday, November 4, 2002 not have steps in their salary structure. Bill McTygue, Director Utilities, said that it was their feeling that there was no change in salary but rather they were simply redefining her duties. He said it was their wish to proceed with this process and approve the structure as proposed this evening. He said a Memorandum of Understanding would then be done with the unit. He noted that the DPW unit is agreeable to this proposal. He said in effect, this brings a new title into that unit. Commissioner Thomas McTygue said they are not changing this classification. He said Civil Service was forcing this on them. He said he had no choice but to reclassify this position. Bill McTygue said this position would be red starred and the next person who occupied it would need to take the civil service test. He said it would be a competitive position. Bill McTygue said they do not want this position in the City Hall unit because it needs to be a 40 hour position. Deputy Commissioner Christine Gillmett-Brown said there are no other competitive positions in the DPW unit. She said this would restructure the whole contract. She suggested that there was a title that could be given by Civil Service which would allow her to remain in the City Hall unit. She also noted that there are other positions in the City Hall unit that are at 40 hours. Commissioner Michael Lenz said he was concerned with setting a new precedent in this contract. Commissioner Thomas McTygue noted that the dispatchers were competitive positions. He said in the future it was possible that the foreman position could be competitive. Deputy Commissioner Christine Gillmett-Brown again suggested that another title be given to this position and including it in the City Hall unit. Commissioner Thomas McTygue said he would prefer to keep her in the DPW unit and further noted there would be no increase in salary. Bill McTygue said it could be so noted in the Memorandum of Understanding that this was prejudicial. He further noted there would be confusion in having this position in the City Hall unit because there contracts differ, i.e., days off are different. Commissioner Thomas McTygue moved and Mayor Kenneth Klotz seconded to rescind the appointment of Barbara Kidd as approved at the last Council meeting and to reappoint her to the position of Senior Account Clerk in the DPW hourly unit with no change in salary noting that she be at grade 7 step 8. Ayes: four; Nays: one (Commissioner Michael Lenz). Motion carried. Carousel Award B Discussion Commissioner Thomas McTygue announced that the Carousel project that was submitted to the New York State Council of Mayors had won first place. He noted that Bill McTygue and Ken & Karen Klotz went to Lake Placid to accept the award on October 17. He then displayed the award. Aid to the Town of Wilton Highway Department (02-248) Commissioner Thomas McTygue said the Town of Wilton Highway Department suffered a tremendous loss with the fire that destroyed nearly their whole fleet of vehicles. He said that he had offered the Town of Wilton one of the City=s trucks to help them get through the winter months. He said they are working on the insurance issues. Commissioner Thomas McTygue then moved and Mayor Kenneth Klotz seconded to loan the Town of Wilton a 1991 International Dump with plow and material spreader. He said he had received the necessary insurance from the Town and requested that the Mayor be authorized to sign the agreement with the Town of Wilton. Commissioner Stephen Towne clarified that the insurance matter was being worked out among all parties. He said there still had not been some answers to the questions but his department was working out the details. Page 17 of 19 City of Saratoga Springs City Council Meeting Minutes Monday, November 4, 2002 Ayes all. Emergency Purchase Material Spreader Commissioner Thomas McTygue moved to authorize the purchase of a new material spreader (sander) from Tarrant in the amount of $7,900 installed. He said this would be installed on truck #34 that we would be loaning the town of Wilton. Commissioner Stephen Towne noted that due to the emergency nature of this purchase it appeared the purchase met the City=s purchasing guidelines. Ayes all. DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY Executive Session Commissioner Thomas Curley requested an executive session. Council members agreed. Speed Trailer - Informational Commissioner Thomas Curley informed Council members that his department would be purchasing a speed monitoring trailer. He said there have been enough concerns expressed by homeowners on certain streets to warrant this purchase. He said it is a portable trailer with a radar unit that will flash the speed of the vehicle. He said this would have an impact on the speed in these areas. He said the purchase would be funded though the Local Law Enforcement Block Grant program. E-Mail Program B Masie Center B Update Commissioner Thomas Curley reported that the e-mail emergency program is up and running. He said it is a simple process to sign up and he urged everyone to go the City=s WEB site to do so. Executive Session (02-249) Commissioner Thomas Curley moved and Commissioner Michael Lenz seconded to adjourn to executive session at 10:00 p.m. Ayes all. Council members returned at 10:02. Commissioner Thomas Curley moved and Commissioner Stephen Towne seconded to accept the proposed tentative agreement between the Police Administrative Unit as presented noting the expiration date of December 31, 2003. Ayes all. ADJOURNMENT Commissioner Thomas Curley moved and Commissioner Thomas McTygue seconded to adjourn the meeting at 10:03 p.m. Ayes all. There being no further business, Mayor Kenneth Klotz adjourned the meeting at 10:03 p.m. Page 18 of 19 City of Saratoga Springs City Council Meeting Minutes Monday, November 4, 2002 Respectfully submitted, Kathy Moran Approved: Clerk Page 19 of 19