City Council
Regular MeetingSaratoga Springs, NY · January 3, 2007
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City of Saratoga Springs City Council Meeting Minutes
Wednesday, January 3, 2007
CITY OF SARATOGA SPRINGS
CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CITY COUNCIL ROOM
WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 3, 2007
6:15 P.M.
PRESENT : Valerie Keehn, Mayor
Commissioner John Franck, Accounts
Commissioner Ron Kim, DPS
Commissioner Matthew McCabe, Finance
Commissioner Thomas McTygue, DPW
SUPERVISORS: Cheryl Keyrouze
Joanne Yepsen
STAFF PRESENT : Lynn Bachner, Deputy Commissioner, Finance
Michele Boxley, Deputy Commissioner, Accounts
Patrick Design, Deputy Commissioner, DPW
Frank Dudla, Deputy Commissioner, DPS
Eileen Finneran, Deputy Mayor
Michael Englert, City Attorney
Tony Izzo, Assistant City Attorney
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Valerie Keehn called the meeting to order at 6:15 p.m.
EXECUTIVE SESSION
Council members adjourned to executive session at 6:15 p.m. to discuss legal matters/firefighters contract.
Ayes all. Council members returned at 6:35 p.m. and reported that no action was taken.
PUBLIC HEARING
Mayor Valerie Keehn said this is a proposed local law providing for the administration and enforcement of the
New York State Uniform Fire Prevention and Building Code. She said that except as otherwise provided in the
Uniform Code, all buildings, structures and premises, regardless of use or occupancy are subject to the
provisions of this law.
Commissioner Ron Kim said this is a state mandate. The City will be required to inspect any structure that
holds public assemblies every 12 months, dormitories every 12 months and multi-family dwellings every 36
months. This ordinance does not establish fees or who will do the inspections. The first step in this process is
to develop an inventory. Much of the information is already available in the City but in various locations. Once
the inventory is established, they will have a better idea of what are the residential uses and how to meet those
needs. He also noted that there was one correction to the ordinance on page 12, Section 11, A.3. – the
bracketed sentence should be removed.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue asked if this was mandated, why was the Council voting on the matter.
Commissioner Ron Kim said it was being added to the City’s code so that there will be enforcement ability.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue said the code enforcement officers’ hours were recently increased to 40 and
he thought their hours were increased because this work was added to their positions. Commissioner Ron Kim
said that until the inventory is completed, they are not sure how much is involved. It could be more than two
can handle. He also noted that there was a misprint in the newspaper in that it will not be the police
department enforcing this ordinance.
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Commissioner Matthew McCabe noted that there is three years to comply. He said the enforcement and legal
action section needed to be clearer, specifically, will the code enforcement officers or whoever is doing this
work, have the ability to act independently in filing law suits and other such legal actions. Tony Izzo said there
are several enforcement devices available to the individuals who will enforce this code, however, there will still
be Council involvement. Tony Izzo pointed out that much of what is included in this ordinance is already within
the code book, just in several locations. He said this code would supersede those codes if there is a conflict.
Those codes will need to be updated and/or repealed.
Mayor Valerie Keehn opened the public hearing.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue asked about the legal notice. Tony Izzo said it was advertised appropriately.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue said that generally speaking, people do not read legal ads. He said it is
frustrating that there is another unfunded mandate from the state. He said perhaps there could be some
stories in the newspapers on this matter so that property owners are aware of what is coming. He said he was
lead to believe that code enforcement would be doing this work and was now concerned that the DPS could be
looking for additional staff. He said he believed it could be done with existing staff.
Commissioner Ron Kim said at this time it was not possible for him to determine if existing staff could handle
this work. The entire matter needs to be reviewed first. Commissioner Ron Kim said that he would be happy
to keep the public hearing open to the next meeting if the Council so desired.
Commissioner Matthew McCabe said he had some concerns on the ordinance that he would submit to DPS in
the next week.
It was agreed the public hearing would be continued to the next meeting.
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Valerie Keehn called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
MOMENT OF SILENCE IN RECOGNITION OF THE PASSING O F PRESIDENT GERALD FORD
Mayor Valerie Keehn asked for a moment of silence in recognition of the recent passing of President Gerald
Ford.
IN MEMORIAM: MAYOR ELLSWORTH JONES
Mayor Valerie Keehn said that Ellsworth J. Jones, former Mayor of the City of Saratoga Springs, passed away
last Sunday, December 31, 2006. She said he served the City for five terms which marked a period of change
and growth in the City. He was a great advocate for the construction of the City Center. He will be
remembered for his leadership. The City Center is his legacy. He was very interested in the downtown and its
ability to attract and keep new businesses. He was a local business man. He had great compassion for those
at the lower end of the economic scale and was instrumental in establishing the Franklin Community Center.
He served in the 101st airborne and parachuted on D-Day. He made great efforts to be accessible and
responsive. He was modest about his public service. His decade in office is the second longest tenure. This
Council recognizes the many good works and achievements of Ellsworth Jones and extends its sympathy to
his family and friends.
PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD
Mayor Valerie Keehn opened the public comment period.
John Kraus, 227 Grand Avenue, read a poem on the City’s successes and failures over the past year.
Jean Cody, Railroad Place, said she was very concerned with the potential loss of the Lillian’s parking lot. She
said the lot is used by many and it would be a great inconvenience to handicapped individuals. She then
submitted a petition with about 50 signatures. She asked that the Council maintain this lot for public parking.
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Pat Guarnieri, 131 Lake Avenue, said many handicapped and elderly individuals use this lot and she asked
that Council members consider maintaining the lot.
Dave Bronner, 5 Royal Henley Court, said that although he never met Ellsworth Jones, he must have been a
great man. He then asked for a correction to the statements made at the last meeting. He was accused of
stalking residents and employees. He said he is not stalking anyone. He just happened to see the clear
cutting taking place along Weibel Avenue and asked a City employee what was happening. The employee
said he did not know, they were simply instructed to cut. He said the next day he saw a City truck dumping
material at this site. He then followed the truck to Pallette Stone, waited and then followed the truck back to
the City garage where it pulled inside. He asked if the City was picking up material at Pallette Stone and
dumping it at Weibel Avenue. He again noted that Commissioner Thomas McTygue does not live in the City
and the Council should craft a resolution to declare the position vacated because the incumbent does not live
in the City.
Mark Lawton, Concerned Citizens for the Implementation of the Charter, said the annual independent audit
should include a management letter that addresses charter implementation and the financial impact to the City
on that implementation. He said the City Attorney should be reporting to the Council on the progress of legal
matters. He said before employee contracts are adopted, the cost of implementation needs to be brought forth.
Mayor Valerie Keehn asked Mark Lawton if the Concerned Citizens for the Implementation of the Charter
Committee, is still meeting and when and where are the meetings. Mark Lawton said they continue to meet
and they will be making public reports periodically. Mayor Valerie Keehn said the contract negotiations are just
beginning and due to the confidential nature of the negotiations, there is nothing to report at this time. Mark
Lawton said the numbers need to be integrated into the budget though.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue said that it is unfortunate that David Bronner makes statements that may
lead people to believe that the City is doing illegal dumping. He said the truck went to Pallette Stone to pick
up cold patch which is then stored in the city garage overnight. If David Bronner wanted to know what was
going on, he simply needed to call and ask. He also said there had been a ruling by the courts on the
residency matter.
A general uproar of the audience and some Council members ensued. Mayor Valerie Keehn recessed the
meeting at 7:25 p.m. in hopes of bringing some decorum back to the meeting. The meeting was resumed at
7:28 p.m.
Mayor Valerie Keehn said she started this meeting by recognizing and remembering a wonderful former Mayor.
She was now embarrassed by the behavior of attendees and asked that the audience refrain from making
comments. She asked that Council members conduct themselves professionally and with high regard for the
office that they hold.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue suggested that there be a Sergeant at Arms at the meeting. He also
reminded the Mayor that there is a Code of Conduct that should be followed and enforced.
Mayor Valerie Keehn said she would review the code of conduct. However, she noted that Council members
should not be engaging in arguments with the public. Commissioner Thomas McTygue said that under the
Code of Conduct rules, Council members have the ability to address matters that the public bring forth –
especially false statements.
Phil Diamond suggested that when a member of the public attacks an individual member of the Council, that
the member of the public be gaveled and asked to sit down.
Mayor Valerie Keehn closed the public comment period.
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS
Water Project
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Doug Ward, attorney representing the City, said the City has made a good amount of progress on the
archaeological study. The City has made application to the Court to get access to the Spencer property and
the Homeowners Association property for the archaeological and engineering studies. The Court has granted
access to the HOA parcel, but wanted more information on the Spencer parcel due to title issues. To date,
there have been 13 holes bored for soil testing and it will be completed tomorrow. Under the archaeological
study, one of the issues is the determination of the shore line and where they expect to find artifacts. They
have dug four trenches and it appears that the shore line is further back to the west and may be located on the
Spencer property. They will need to do additional trenching on the Spencer property once they have access.
Shovel test pits will also be done. They are waiting to do the archaeological work until they have access to the
Spencer parcel so that the work can be done all at the same time.
Doug Ward said that while the City has the right to go on to the Spencer parcel, the City has decided to give
them their due process and has made application to the courts for access. He said there is an issue with the
title on the Spencer parcel, so the City is doing a title search. He said there is also a road for the county sewer
access and an old abandoned railroad right of way.
Doug Ward said both the engineer and archaeological studies are independent of the appeals process. The
courts have found that proceeding on the archaeological and engineering studies simultaneously with the
appeals process was an appropriate way to go. By completing the studies, the City is fulfilling a condition that
was imposed on the City through the SEQR process.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue thanked Doug Ward for the presentation.
CONSENT AGENDA
Mayor Valerie Keehn moved and Commissioner Ron Kim seconded to approve the consent agenda as
follows:
1. Approval of Minutes: December 20 & 29, 2006
2. Appointment of Commissioners of Deeds: Meghan Ennis, Lloyd Davis, Shane Crooks and
Daniel Mullan, Jr.
3. Approval Payrolls: 12/22/06 $357,569.14
12/29/06 $379,331.31
12/31/06 $ 85,648.31
4. Approve Warrants: Mid MC2DEC06 $ 54,816.10
General 3DEC06 $451,612.17
Ayes all.
SUPERIVISORS - Joanne Yepsen
Mayor Valerie Keehn read a prepared statement from Joanne Yepsen. In that statement she said noted that
Joanne Yepsen was in Washington, D.C., for the Kristen Gillibrand inauguration. The County met today and
Supervisor Phillip Barrett from Clifton Park became the chair of the Board of Supervisors. Priorities of the
Board this year include public safety, the radio communications system, and 911 enhancements. There will be
consideration of a new local law concerning sex offenders. This is the third year in a row that the County has
decreased its taxes. The County will make improvements to its web site. There will be a new technology
committee. Land protection and implementation of the green infrastructure is a priority. Her new committee
assignments include racing, public health and DPW.
MAYOR’S DEPARTMENT
ZBA Appointment (07-01)
Mayor Valerie Keehn announced the appointment of Pell Kennedy as a member of the Zoning Board of
Appeals.
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Mayor Valerie Keehn said that Amanda Hiller, who was recently appointed to the DRC will be stepping down.
She was recently appointed by Governor Elliot Spitzer to serve on the council which focuses on local
government matters.
Extension of Moratorium on Adult Uses – Set Public Hearing
Mayor Valerie Keehn said the Council has received a request from the Planning Board for a three month
extension of the current moratorium on adult uses. The Planning Board is nearly finished with its work on
developing new amendments to the zoning ordinance to control adult uses and they just need a few months to
complete their set of recommendations. The City Attorney has prepared a draft local law that would extend the
current moratorium from January 31, 2007, to April 30, 2007.
A public hearing on this local law was set for 6:55 p.m. on January 16, 2007
Moratorium on Saratoga Lake Area Development Permits without County Sewer Connection
Mayor Valerie Keehn said last month the Council received a letter from the Saratoga Springs Planning Board
that recommended the City Council consider adopting a moratorium that would, over the next three years,
prohibit any of the City development boards or departments from granting any approval for development near
Saratoga Lake that did not connect to the County sewer system. As a result of the discussion at the December
19, 2006, Council meeting, it was agreed that the City Attorney would draft the necessary legislation for this
moratorium for the Council’s review. A copy of that draft legislation has been distributed to the Council. The
City Council needs to decide if it will accept this draft legislation for study and forward it to the City and County
Planning Boards for the required advisory opinion.
Commissioner Matthew McCabe clarified this was for new construction. He said there needs to be some
discussion to find out what the County’s criteria is to connect to the county system. They have sole discretion
over who can connect to the county sewer system, therefore, they would be holding all of the cards.
Mayor Valerie Keehn said she had met with the County Sewer Commissioners. She said it was not their intent
to penalize existing homeowners. In an emergency, existing homeowners could have the ability to connect to
the system. It is the County’s intent that only homes in an emergency situation would be allowed to connect.
Commissioner Ron Kim asked how this particular area was selected and how the lines were drawn. Mayor
Valerie Keehn said there is a moratorium in this area for connecting to the county sewer system until they redo
their infrastructure in this area. She said this particular section of the City relies on the County system and not
the City. Geoff Bornemann, City Planner, said it was not an exact science in drawing the boundary lines. He
said it was drawn for an area that they reasonably believed the County could expand the county system with
projected growth. He said outside of the proposed boundary lines, they don’t believe that the county would
expand the sewer system. He said it was an educated guess. Commissioner Ron Kim asked if this was just
for residential use. Geoff Bornemann said it was for any use. There are a few commercial uses in this area.
Therefore, Mayor Valerie Keehn moved and Commissioner Ron Kim seconded to accept the moratorium
legislation for study and to send it to the City and the County Planning Boards for an advisory opinion.
Ayes all.
A public hearing was also set on this moratorium legislation for 6:30 p.m. on February 20, 2007.
Blue Wing Services – Telecommunication Services to ZBA
Mayor Valerie Keehn said the Council approved a contract with Blue Wing Services for telecommunications
work at the November 17 meeting. They will assist the City in a use variance application with National Grid for
a telecommunications facility on Weibel Avenue. Since that time, there have been two more use variance
applications at 84 Weibel Avenue and 470 Route 50. For consistency among the applications, they are
requesting that Blue Wing Services be used in these two additional applications.
Therefore, Mayor Valerie Keehn moved and Commissioner Ron Kim seconded to waive the bid and
approve the contract with Blue Wing Services in connection with the two use variance applications at 84
Weibel Avenue and 470 Route 50 at hourly rate of $150 not to exceed $15,000 each. The funds are in an
escrow account paid for by the applicant. Ayes all.
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Miller, Mannix, Schachner & Hafner, LLC 2007 Services to the Planning Board
Mayor Valerie Keehn withdrew this item from discussion.
Subdivision Regulation Amendment for Waiver of Curbs and Sidewalks
Mayor Valerie Keehn said the Council has received a request from the Planning Board to amend the
Subdivision Regulations to give the Planning Board some flexibility in granting waivers of curbs and sidewalks
in small subdivisions in existing neighborhoods. The Planning Board has recently had numerous requests
from existing neighbors who oppose sidewalks and curbs for small subdivisions in existing neighborhoods.
The City Council needs to decide if it will accept this proposal for study and forward it to the County Planning
Board for the required referral.
Therefore, Mayor Valerie Keehn moved and Commissioner Ron Kim seconded to accept this proposed
amendment to the Subdivision Regulations for study and to send it to the County Planning Board for the
required referral.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue said there have been a number of requests in recent years to waive curbs
and sidewalks and his department has concerns. Curbs and sidewalks help with drainage. Geoff Bornemann
said every application that appears before the Planning Board is sent to both DPW and DPS. Commissioner
Thomas McTygue agreed but said it wasn’t the same as having someone on the board. His department has
fought for years to have curbs and sidewalks installed and now the Planning Board wants to waive them. He
wanted to know the specific areas. Geoff Bornemann said sometimes at the meetings the neighbors come in
expressing their concerns on installing curbs and sidewalks in the existing neighborhoods. He said that
currently the Planning Board can waive curbs and sidewalks due to unique topographic conditions and/or
unusual safety hazards. The Planning Board is seeking the authority to waive curbs and sidewalks in existing
subdivisions due to the specific nature of the character of those communities. Commissioner Thomas
McTygue said that previously the City has asked for ditches in some subdivision. Those ditches help with the
drainage. Homeowners then get tired of the ditches and then fill them in. Geoff Bornemann said that ditches
are generally only in the two acre subdivisions. These waivers would be for the more intense smaller
neighborhoods. In some cases, new sidewalks in existing neighborhoods are out of character.
Commissioner Ron Kim said that right of ways and sidewalks are connected. He said sidewalks and curbs
help to define the right of way. Pedestrian use needs to be encouraged. He too would like to know the specific
neighborhoods. Making exceptions is a slippery slope. Geyser Crest is a subdivision with issues on sidewalks
and curbs and parking in the right of way. He was concerned giving this discretion to the Planning Board.
Mayor Valerie Keehn said this was for small subdivisions. The Planning Board would like to be able to
respond to the residents’ concerns.
Commissioner John Franck said that without sidewalks and curbs the liability is transferred back to the City
and he would not support this request. He said that without the sidewalks and curbs it was harder to define the
right of way. Commissioner Ron Kim agreed with the sidewalks and curbs the right of way is better defined.
He said that it was easier to determine when a tree or shrub is planted in the right of way if there is a sidewalk.
Ayes all.
A public hearing was set for this amendment for 6:55 p.m. on February 20
Indoor Recreation Center Construction Schedule
Mayor Valerie Keehn said there was a proposed schedule distributed for the indoor recreation use facility. She
reviewed the schedule as follows: January 16, coordinated SEQR review establishing the City as lead agency,
after January 16 establish an intradepartmental committee to prepare the RFP for facility design. Award the
design contract by February 20, by the beginning of April final design and approvals by the boards, by June 15
preparation of bid documents, August 4 award of construction bids and construction completed by February 1,
2008.
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Commissioner Thomas McTygue asked for a copy of this time line. Commissioner Matthew McCabe said
there were funds set aside in the capital budget for design and construction. To date, about $33,100 had been
expended on the feasibility study.
ACCOUNTS DEPARTMENT
Systems Summit
Commissioner John Franck announced that a systems summit would take place in mid February at City Hall.
Current systems providers including Munis, Complus Data Innovations, RPS, OARS, BASF, General Codes
and Xonitek Systems will be invited to discuss the current systems that the City uses and our needs moving
forward. His goal was to create a comprehensive systems plan to better serve the needs of the City. He said
two weeks prior to the summit he would ask each department to submit a “wish list” of operations-related
technology that ideally they would like to have, the agenda for the summit will then be created from that list.
Commissioner Matthew McCabe said this is a good example of cooperation among the departments. He
applauded the summit approach. This was a good way to determine the City’s resources and what has not
been tapped into.
Commissioner John Franck said it has been noted that the City’s permit process was slow. The City has many
software programs that are underutilized and this could assist in identifying ways to improve the process. He
was looking at an agenda manager program.
Commissioner Ron Kim said he is looking at a building inventory program. Commissioner Ron Kim asked if
there was a document available that shows the capabilities of the software programs. Commissioner John
Franck said he was not aware of such a document. Commissioner Matthew McCabe said it could be
developed. Commissioner John Franck said there are many software programs in the City, but the uses of
those programs needs to be explored. Mayor Valerie Keehn asked who would be part of this summit.
Commissioner John Franck said each department would be asked to send someone. He said it will be similar
to a workshop.
Discussion & Vote – Records Management Clerk (07-02)
Commissioner John Franck moved and Commissioner Ron Kim seconded to add to the Council agenda –
Discussion & Vote: Records Management Clerk. He said at the December 19, 2006, Council meeting, the
position of Map Scanner was discussed and approved at $12/hour. Since that time, the position has been
classified as a “Records Management Clerk ” and not a Map Scanner. Ayes all.
Commissioner John Franck moved and Mayor Valerie Keehn seconded to establish the title of Records
Management Clerk (not Map Scanner) in the Accounts Department at $12/hour (the salary is the same as
approved on 12/19/06) effective January 2, 2007. This position is entirely funded by the SARA grant for 35
hours per week through September 30, 2007.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue moved and Commissioner John Franck seconded to amend the motion to
include an increase in salaries of part time clerk positions from $10 to $12.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue said these are individuals who perform extensive work on computers. They
are also individuals who have been part time for the City for several years. This proposed increase should be
handled within the department’s budgets. He has the funds in his budget to cover this proposal. It would be up
to each department as to whether the rate was increased to $12/hour. If the department is satisfied with the
work of the individual, the ability to increase the salary to $12/hour would now be available.
Commissioner John Franck pointed out that his proposal for the Records Management Clerk is totally funded
by the grant.
Commissioner Matthew McCabe asked how many positions Commissioner Thomas McTygue was including in
this amendment. Commissioner Thomas McTygue said he had one in his department. Commissioner Ron
Kim said he was not aware if he had any positions in his department. Commissioner Matthew McCabe asked
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for clarification from the City Attorney as to whether the Council was allowed to set the rates after the budget
process had been completed. Commissioner Matthew McCabe said he would not support this increase
because he did not know what the budget impact would be. Commissioner Thomas McTygue said there was
no budgetary impact. The budget would remain the same just the hourly rate would change.
Commissioner Ron Kim clarified that Commissioner Thomas McTygue had one position. Commissioner
Thomas McTygue said yes. Commissioner John Franck said the grant allows for the records management
position to be paid $12/hour. The motion was brought back to the table because there was a title change.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue said he reviewed minutes from the last City Council meeting whereby the
Council made changes to salaries in the Recreation Department. He said there is no difference between that
motion and the motion this evening. There is no budget impact.
Commissioner Matthew McCabe clarified that the range of the salary was being extended to $12/hour.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue said that presently the City can pay $10/hour. There is a new position being
created that will be paid $12/hour. There are people working in City Hall for a number of years that are being
paid $10/hour. He was now asking that the existing positions have the ability to be raised to $12/hour. Again
he said there was no budget impact and he was not asking for additional funds.
Commissioner Matthew McCabe asked for the exact title. Commissioner Thomas McTygue said he was not
sure of the exact title, however, he believed it was a part time clerk or an account clerk. Commissioner
Matthew McCabe clarified that he was asking to extend the range up to $12/hour. Commissioner Thomas
McTygue said yes. Commissioner Matthew McCabe said this was for part time hourly people and asked how
many hours per week do they work. Commissioner Thomas McTygue said it varies but could be up to 40
hours. Commissioner Matthew McCabe asked for the effective date.
Commissioner Ron Kim said he would support the resolution because Commissioner Thomas McTygue said
he would work within his budget.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue asked that the Mayor call the vote. Mayor Valerie Keehn said she was not
sure that this vote could be taken legally. Commissioner Thomas McTygue again stated that the Recreation
Department employee hourly rates were changed at the last meeting.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue called the question.
Commissioner Matthew McCabe said he would not support this proposal. He said there were payroll
implementation problems.
Ayes: three (Commissioners John Franck, Thomas McTygue & Ron Kim); Nays: two (Mayor Valerie
Keehn and Commissioner Matthew McCabe). Motion carried.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue referenced the December 19 meeting minutes noting that the Recreation
Department employee salaries were increased from $9.50 to $11.00/hour. He said the Council just did the
same thing on December 19, but is now stating that the motion this evening is illegal. He said if tonight’s
motion was illegal, then the December 19 motion was illegal. Commissioner Matthew McCabe said he was not
sure that this motion was illegal but there is an issue with procedure. At the last meeting the salary range was
approved and that raise fit the salary range which made it appropriate.
Commissioner Matthew McCabe said this motion did pass this evening and his department would make the
appropriate accommodations to process the raises as submitted.
Mayor Valerie Keehn said she would get a memo out explaining the difference between the December 19
motion and tonight’s motion.
FINANCE DEPARTMENT
Woodlawn Avenue Parking
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Commissioner Matthew McCabe asked about the appraisal on the Lillian’s parking lot. Commissioner John
Franck said it would be done within the next two weeks. Commissioner Matthew McCabe said the City needs
to focus on the Woodlawn parking lot and develop an RFP for that lot. He said developers have made
overtures on that lot. He suggested that an RFP be done for a private developer to construct only a parking
deck on this lot with the caveat that at least one level remains free parking. He said if the City decides to sell
Lillian’s parking lot, the money from that sale would be a one time revenue source that could be set aside and
used an annuity to finance the maintenance of the existing decks.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue asked what was the difference between going out to bid for this project and
the Excelsior Springs culvert project. Neither was budgeted. Commissioner Matthew McCabe said the
Woodlawn Avenue parking lot does not require any funding from the City. Commissioner Thomas McTygue
said the Woodlawn Avenue parking lot was already bid a few years ago. Commissioner Matthew McCabe said
this RFP would be for a parking structure only and no commercial/residential uses. Commissioner Thomas
McTygue said Commissioner Matthew McCabe should develop the RFP if he is interested in advancing this
proposal.
Bill McTygue, Director, Utilities, reminded Council members that Joe Dalton, Chamber of Commerce, said he
would return to the Council within the next couple of weeks with ideas relative to the parking spaces/structure
on Woodlawn Avenue. He said while Commissioner Matthew McCabe’s idea for a parking structure at this
location was a good idea, he was not sure there was a market for this type of project. It might work in the
metropolitan areas but this was a smaller suburban area. He believed the combination of mixed uses was
more viable. Commissioner John Franck agreed noting that the construction costs for parking only were quite
costly.
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS
Water Project
Previously discussed.
Lillian’s Parking Lot
Commissioner Thomas McTygue said he was waiting for Council members to submit names to him to keep the
process moving along. He said there was another section of the parking lot in the southeast corner that the
engineer suggested closing.
Outdoor Ice Skating
Commissioner Thomas McTygue said that there have been some comments in the newspaper concerning
outdoor skating. He said that for a number of years, DPW has tried to have outdoor skating on Weibel,
however, due to the warm weather it has not been possible. He said that it is costly to have DPW workers out
at night hosing down the rinks only to have the rink melt. He said that if there were some volunteers out there
who were interested, he would talk to them. He also noted that many people simply like to use the indoor rinks
now.
Southeast Drainage
Commissioner Thomas McTygue said that for years he has been trying to put money in the budget for the
southeast section of the City drainage problems. He said that it is the area bounded by Frank Sullivan
Parkway & Nelson Avenue on the east, Crescent Street on the south, Vanderbilt Avenue on the west and
Lincoln Avenue on the north. He said they have tentative easements with the track to go from Union Avenue
through the track parking lot to get to Lincoln Avenue. They have some funding available now to design a
system in this area. There are some drywells, however, there is a high water table. This is a project that is
continuing to move along though. He said they recently completed major improvements near the hospital.
Mid-State Contract for Roof Repairs on the Arts Council
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Commissioner Thomas McTygue moved and Mayor Valerie Keehn seconded to authorize the mayor to
sign the contract for Mid-State for the Saratoga Arts Council roof repairs in the amount of $34,811. The
money is in the capital budget. Ayes all.
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY
Local Law #1 of 2007 – Administration and Enforcement of Codes
Commissioner Ron Kim said that this would be held open to the next meeting.
Walpole Contract for Care of Police Horse
Commissioner Ron Kim said there needs to be care of the police horses. The Walpole family have agreed to
donate the space for stabling of the horse. However, there is a fee of $25/per day for care of the horse.
Commissioner Thomas McTygue said that $25 per day was a lot of money for care of a horse. He boards
horses for $14/day. Commissioner Ron Kim said the advantage of stabling the horse at the Walpole location
was that it was closer to the City and the horse would be used more often.
Commissioner Matthew McCabe said there was a built in cancellation clause with the contract of 30 days. This
would establish the daily rate. He asked what was the effective date and whether it was retroactive.
Commissioner Ron Kim said the horse is currently being stabled at the Walpole location. The $25 is for the
care, grooming and feeding, not for stabling.
Officer Chowske, said the City owns the trailer to move the horse. Commissioner John Franck said he owns a
horse that costs him about $240/month for stabling. He said this $25 per day would amount to nearly
$800/month. Commissioner Thomas McTygue said $25/day was too high. Commissioner Matthew McCabe
asked if this needed to be addressed immediately.
It was agreed to get some new numbers and bring this back to another meeting.
Selective Traffic Enforcement Program (STEP) (07-03)
Commissioner Ron Kim moved and Commissioner John Franck seconded to approve the Selective Traffic
Enforcement Program (STEP) grant in the amount of $14,500.
Commissioner Ron Kim said this is for the high accident areas such as Route 50. It is state funding to enforce
the traffic laws in that corridor. The budget amendment will be brought forth soon.
Ayes all.
Labor Attorney Contract
Commissioner Ron Kim withdrew this item from discussion.
SUPERVISORS
Cheryl Keyrouze
STEP Grant: Cheryl Keyrouze asked where the funding came from for this grant. Officer Chowske said it was
from the Governors Traffic Safety Committee.
NYS Association of County Legislators: They will meet January 29-31. She noted that she had been
appointed to their Legislative Standing Committee.
Committees: She noted that she had been appointed to several County committees including the social
programs and legislative.
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Planning Board Conference: She announced that the County sponsored Planning Board conference would be
held at the City Center on January 24. The deadline to sign up is January 15.
Joanne Yepsen
Previously done.
PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD
Mayor Valerie Keehn opened the second public comment period.
Mark Lawton said that adding items to the Council agenda requires a special process that has not been
followed. He said the Accounts Department is responsible for inventories in the City and if there is no
inventory for software then the City cannot buy new software. Budget amendments are necessary in order to
maintain a balanced budget. The Council needs an improved financial and personnel system so that salaries
are not being set arbitrarily at the Council table. There needs to be a centralized personnel system.
Commissioner John Franck said there is an inventory on the software programs. They are simply reviewing
the software programs for their capabilities.
There being no one else wishing to speak, Mayor Valerie Keehn closed the public comment period.
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Valerie Keehn moved and Commissioner Ron Kim seconded to adjourn the meeting at 9:00 p.m. Ayes
all. There being no further business, Mayor Valerie Keehn adjourned the meeting at p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Kathy Moran
Clerk
Approved:
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