Design Review Board

DESIGN REVIEW COMMISSION MINUTES WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 15, 2012 7:00 P.M. CITY COUNCIL ROOM PRESENT: Steven Rowland, Chairman; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chair; Richard Martin; Staci Mannion; Robert West; Karen Cavotta; ABSENT: Rob DeMarco STAFF: Bradley Birge, Administrator Planning & Economic Development CALL TO ORDER: Chairman Steven Rowland called the meeting to order at 7:05 P.M. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ANNOUNCEMENT OF RECORDING OF PROCEEDING: Steve Rowland, Chairman stated the proceedings of this meeting are being taped for the benefit of the secretary. Because the minutes are not a verbatim record of the proceedings, the minutes are not a word-for-word transcript of the recording. ANNOUNCEMENT OF ADJOURNED APPLICATIONS: 1. 2011.063 MARTELL BROTHERS, 381 Broadway, Historic Review of new construction for a restaurant in the Transect-6 District. RECUSAL: Steven Rowland, Chairman recused himself from this application. Applicant: Chris Martell, Martell Brothers Brewing Agents: Jessie Bouchey, Kodiak Construction Mike Munter, Munter Enterprises Mr. Martell stated there were several items which the applicant was requested to return to the Board with for clarification. The items were the trim on the rear elevation, lighting detail, and more information on the front door. In my conversations with Bradley Birge, Admininstrator, Planning and Economic Development he stated that the Board would be interested in seeing a rendering. A Visual Presentation was made to the Board as well as updated drawings. There are some changes to the drawings in the southern parapet, as an emergency staircase as well as another exit from the bar was added. Discussion ensued regarding the addition of a substantial corbel on the building extending around the sides of the building. Richard Martin stated he would like to see the changes reviewed this evening. A new drawing would be helpful. Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application. Steve Kime, 18 Division Street. I am on the Homeowners Board. I would like to thank you for your attention to the west elevation. I was told to ask about the details on the roof which was previously requested by Sonny Bonacio. Jessie Bouchey, Kodiak Construction explained the roof details to Mr. Kime and presentated the drawing schematics for his review. Richard Martin made a motion in the matter of the application of the Martell Brothers Brewpub, 381 Broadway, that the application be approved with the following conditions – a new drawing be presented to a small committee will show that the siding have an 8" exposure. That the north elevation will have approximately 10 courses of split face block. The soffit fascia will be approximately 30" in depth over the middle front fascia and approximately 16 inch over the left and right sections. This cornice detail will have a heavy corble and return around the siding of the building at each corner approximately 3 feet. That the final drawing will show some relief and depth to the front entry doors and windows and trim details. Also that the windows used will be aluminum clad on the exterior. Seconded by Staci Mannion. Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman asked if there was any further discussion. None heard. VOTE: T. Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; R. Martin, in favor; R. West, in favor; S. Mannion, in favor; K. Cavotta, in favor MOTION PASSES: 5-0 Steven Rowland, Chairman resumed his duties as Chair. 2. 2012.009 FAMILY DOLLAR, 2214 Route 50, Architectural Review of new commercial building in Highway General Business District. Applicant: Gary DeRusso Agent: Dave Mansfield, Architect; Jerry Magoolaghan Design plans were presented to the Board by Dave Mansfield, architect. The property is located within Highway General Business District, and within "Zone A" of the Gateway Overlay District -1 Gateway overlay encourages site integration with adjacent sites. This is a major gateway into the City. We have given a lot of thought to our site layout our building and our overall design concept taking into consideration that the gateway is a very important entrance into the City. We spent a lot of time with Family Dollar. A visual presentation was made to the Board. The Board has received a site plan as well as a sketch of the building. Parking has been reduced in the front down to 20% as per the regulations. Access, is a proposed with a shared curb cut with the existing bank. Connections between both adjacent sites are in accordance with the Gateway requirements. Storm water management and drainage issues were reviewed. We have met with the DOT regarding the shared driveway, and it has been approved. Adirondack Trust Company has not been notified of this. Bradley Birge, Administrator – Planning and Economic Development reviewed for the Board items discussed at the workshop which was a stone veneer along the water table, with possibly stucco above that. Recesses for window openings. Questions about the second story windows, if in fact they would be actual windows and if there is any lighting behind those. Dave Mansfield stated the windows are opaque glass with some LED accents on timers. Bradley Birge, Administrator, Planning and Economic Development stated the Board inquired as to the accent stripe if that would be bronze to match the bronze of the windows. That is something that would be more substantive to the natural area around there. You had questions about the signage what it was going to be made of and how it was going to be lit and the window shadows and profiles on the sides as well. You did have questions on the gables. City of Saratoga Springs Design Review Commission Minutes – Wednesday, February 15, 2012 – page 2 of 5 Mr. Mansfield stated the sign would 2 foot 6 inches by 17 feet 4 inches long. Also Family Dollar has requested that we stay with the fractured block primarily for ease in maintenance and continuity in their design. They are asking for the red accent stripe to remain on the front and sides of the building. Red is their signature color. They would like to stay with that color. Discussion ensued regarding the red stripe on the front and sides of the building. Bradley Birge, Administrator, Planning and Economic Development stated that this is located in an Gateway Overlay District. which does impose additional considerations. The purpose of this Gateway is to maintain a rural country character in the Gateway areas by guiding the location and character of the lands formed, building roads, parking, signage, vegetation and rural character of these commercial areas is necessary to complement the nearby Saratoga Spa State Park. So that gives you guidance as far as what the visual intents and land form intents are. Another piece of guidance within the Zoning Ordinance regarding this overlay building material exterior and signs. Should be constructed primarily of natural materials such as wood and stone. Richard Martin asked if a sample of the stone to be used was available for the Boards review. The biggest issue is the split faced block in this particular area does not carry the same weight as stone would. We had spoken at our workshop that at both the south elevation and north elevation are pretty prominent pieces and we had thought that if a different texture would be used such as a stucco on the top and stone on the bottom it would really add a much more professional appearance to this building than split faced block. If you stand far enough away from split faced block and you can almost see concrete block. I think having the stone is appropriate sitting next to the Adirondack Trust Company and for coming into town. I could not tell you whether their sign was red or orange. I believe the sign says as much as it would have to say for me to know what that was. If you put a red stripe on it you think of Target. The split faced block is too industrial for that building. Steven Rowland, Chairman stated in keeping with what Brad was saying about what the Overlay district is trying to accomplish I think the stone is better in that regard it is more natural product. Bradley Birge, Administrator; Planning and Economic Development stated the changes made are as follows: Storm water table that is consistent along the base of three sides of the building. Synthetic stucco will be applied from the water table to the clapboard. Clapboard siding has a 4" reveal. Siding will be painted the same color as the stucco. All the trim panels, your frieze board you trim will be a lighter color than the wool skein color of the building. Columns will be all stone. Architectural shingles on top, windows on the second floor will be lit internally. Discussion ensued regarding the color of the storefront aluminum bronze, red band on the front of the building only, lighting will be down faced. Finish on the metal should be a satin finish. Fascia material should be AZEK or VERSA-TECH material, not a broken metal and the same type of material for the cornerboards. Roof valleys should be a bronze, no aluminum showing. Dave Mansfield stated when they return with new drawings, elevations and window relief will be noted as well. Roof penetrations will be in the rear of the building. All the mechanicals will be hidden. Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application. None heard. Bradley Birge, Administrator Planning and Economic Development stated SEQRA review is also pending. What the Board could do this evening is to defer SEQRA Lead Agency Status to the Planning Board if they accept which will keep this project moving forward. Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman made a motion in the matter in the application of the Family Dollar, 2214 Route 50 to defer SEQRA Lead Agency Status to the Planning Board should they request it. Seconded by Richard Martin. City of Saratoga Springs Design Review Commission Minutes – Wednesday, February 15, 2012 – page 3 of 5 Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion. None heard. VOTE: S. Rowland, Chairman, in favor; T. Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; R. Martin, in favor; R. West, in favor; S. Mannion, in favor; K. Cavotta, in favor MOTION PASSES: 6-0 ANNOUNCEMENT DATE OF NEXT MEETING The next scheduled Caravan and Workshop will be February 28, 2012 at 5 PM. The next scheduled Design Review Commission meeting is March 5, 2012 at 7:00 P.M. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Steven Rowland, Chairman made a motion to accept the November 2, 2011 meeting minutes with corrections and additions as submitted. Seconded by Tamie Ehinger. VOTE: S. Rowland, Chairman; T. Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; R. Martin, in favor; R. West, in favor; S. Mannion, in favor; MOTION PASSES: 5-0 Steven Rowland, Chairman made a motion to accept the November 16, 2011 meeting minutes with corrections and additions as submitted. Seconded by Robert West. VOTE: S. Rowland, Chairman; T. Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; R. Martin, in favor; R. West, in favor; MOTION PASSES: 4-0-1 Steven Rowland, Chairman made a motion to accept the December 14, 2011 meeting minutes with corrections and additions as submitted. Seconded by Robert West. VOTE: S. Rowland, Chairman; T. Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; R. Martin, in favor; R. West, in favor; City of Saratoga Springs Design Review Commission Minutes – Wednesday, February 15, 2012 – page 4 of 5  MOTION PASSES: 4-0-1 Steven Rowland, Chairman made a motion to accept the January 4, 2012 meeting minutes with corrections and additions as submitted. Seconded by Tamie Ehinger. VOTE: S. Rowland, Chairman; T. Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; R. Martin, in favor; R. West, in favor; S. Mannion, in favor MOTION PASSES: 5-0 Steven Rowland, Chairman made a motion to accept the January 18, 2012 meeting minutes with corrections and additions as submitted. Seconded by Robert West. VOTE: S. Rowland, Chairman; T. Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; R. Martin, in favor; R. West, in favor; S. Mannion, in favor MOTION PASSES: 5-0 ADJOURNMENT There being no further business Steven Rowland made a motion to adjourn the meeting. Seconded by Robert West. Meeting adjourned at 9:04 P.M. Respectfully submitted, Diane Buzanowski Recording Secretary Approved: 3/21/12 City of Saratoga Springs Design Review Commission Minutes – Wednesday, February 15, 2012 – page 5 of 5