Design Review Board
Regular MeetingSaratoga Springs, NY · February 6, 2013
Minutes
DESIGN REVIEW COMMISSION
MINUTES
WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 6, 2013
7:00 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL ROOM
PRESENT: Steven Rowland, Chairman; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chair; Richard Martin; Robert West;
Staci Mannion; Karen Cavotta;
ABSENT: Robert DeMarco
STAFF: Bradley Birge, Administrator, Planning & Economic Development
CALL TO ORDER: Chair Steven Rowland called the meeting to order at 7:02 P.M.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ANNOUNCEMENT OF RECORDING OF PROCEEDING:
Steve Rowland, Chairman stated the proceedings of this meeting are being recorded for the benefit of the secretary.
Because the minutes are not a verbatim record of the proceedings, the minutes are not a word-for-word transcript of the
recording.
APPLICATIONS UNDER CONSIDERATION:
1. 2012.095.1 SCHRADE INSURANCE BUILDING, 227 Washington Street, request for Lead
Agency by Planning Board for a mixed use development featuring professional office and three apartments in the
Transect-4 District.
Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman made a motion to defer Lead Agency under SEQRA to the Planning Board should they
request Lead Agency Status. Richard Martin seconded the motion.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
VOTE:
Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; Richard Martin, in favor; Robert West, in
favor; Staci Mannion, in favor; Karen Cavotta, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
2. 2013.009.1 EXCELSIOR AVENUE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, Intersection of Excelsior Avenue and Marion
Avenue, request for Lead Agency by Planning Board for mixed use development featuring eating and drinking, office,
retail and residential in the Transect-5 District.
Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman made a motion to defer Lead Agency under SEQRA to the Planning Board per their request.
Staci Mannion seconded the motion.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
VOTE:
Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; Richard Martin, in favor; Robert West, in
favor; Staci Mannion, in favor; Karen Cavotta, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
3. 2013.011.1 HOME OF THE GOOD SHEPHERD, 394-402 Church Street, request for Lead Agency by Planning Board
for senior housing and senior assisted living facility in the Urban Residential-1 District.
Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman made a motion to defer Lead Agency under SEQRA to the Planning Board should they
request Lead Agency Status. Robert West seconded the motion.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
VOTE:
Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; Richard Martin, in favor; Robert West, in
favor; Staci Mannion, in favor; Karen Cavotta, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
4. 2013.010 ADIRONDACK SIGN COMPANY, 72 Ballston Avenue, Architectural Review of two wall signs in the Transect-
5 District.
Agent: Daniel Roicki
Steven Rowland, Chairman stated this application is fairly straightforward. Two wall signs are requested one on the Ballston
Avenue side, which is the main entrance, and the other will be facing the bowling alley. No lighting is proposed. One issue
which arose during the caravan is a neon sign located on north façade of the building. The neon sign exceeds the
ordinance regulations. We would like to see that signage removed.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application. None heard.
Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman made a motion in the matter of the application of the Adirondack Sign Company, 72 Ballston
Avenue that we approve the application with the following condition that the neon sign in the window on the north façade be
removed to accommodate the new signage. Richard Martin seconded the motion.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
VOTE:
Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; Richard Martin, in favor; Robert West, in
favor; Staci Mannion, in favor; Karen Cavotta, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
5. 2013.008 GOODEMOTE PHYSICAL THERAPY, 3 Maple Dell, Architectural Review of free standing sign and wall sign
in the Tourist Related Business District.
RECUSAL: Steven Rowland, Chairman recused himself from this application since he was a consultant for Mr. Goodemote
before he leased this building.
Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman assumed the duties of the Chair.
Agent: Daniel Roicki, Adirondack Signs.
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Mr. Roicki stated this is will be a free standing sign 6 x 6 posts on the Route 50 side of the building, and also a dimensional
letter sign on the parking lot side of the building on Maple Dell. The free standing sign will be approximately 7 feet to the top
of the post and the sign. The sign's height is to allow for the ability to view the signage from the roadway. The application
does not include any lighting at this time.
Discussion ensued regarding the addition of a trim or border to the free standing sign.
Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application. None heard.
Karen Cavotta made a motion in the matter of the application of Goodemote Physical Therapy Signage, 3 Maple Dell, to
approve the application with the following conditions – Add white inset border detail to free standing and wall sign. Add
corner cut details to wall mounted sign. Existing lighting for free standing sign exists currently and request no changes to
the bulbs or wattage. No plans for lighting on the wall mounted sign at this time. Richard Martin seconded the motion.
Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
VOTE:
Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; Richard Martin, in favor; Robert West, in favor; Staci Mannion, in favor; Karen
Cavotta, in favor; Steven Rowland, Chairman recused.
MOTION PASSES: 5-0-1
Steven Rowland, Chairman resumed the duties of the Chair.
6. 2010.047.2 WASHINGTON COMMONS, Washington and Central Avenue, Request for modification of Architectural
Review approval for façade changes to multi-use buildings in the Transect-4 District.
Steven Rowland, Chairman stated this application was originally proposed for Administrative Action. I felt the changes
made were significant and beyond what the chair would normally approved. Therefore, I requested the applicant appear
before the Board.
Agent: Bob Flansburg, Dreamscapes Unlimited
Applicant: Steven Ethier, East Side Development Group
Mr. Flansburg stated the applicant is proposing to change the knee high stone across the front façade, remove it and
concentrate the stone at the two front entrances. The side lights will be removed from the front entrance doors. Above the
entryway, the four wide double hung windows will be changed to a triple unit. This will change the size of the lobby from 16
feet to 12 feet in width. Store front glass across the first floor of the building will be removed and we are proposing double
hung windows in this area to match those of the windows upstairs.
Steven Rowland, Chairman stated we will review each issue one at a time. The stone on the front façade. The Commission
was pleased with where it was placed initially and would like to have this feature return to what was originally submitted and
approved. The change in the store front windows to the 2 over 2 double hung are an improvement. The windows narrowed
from four to three is really not a significant change in the look of the structure.
Bradley Birge, Administrator, Planning and Economic Development stated the Board has a few questions regarding the
details of the building. Along the front façade, board and batten was proposed and not shown on the plans, and the
standing seam metal roof.
Discussion ensued regarding the standing seam metal roof and the usage of that material on the south elevation. The
double hung windows will include SDL vertical muttons two over two as originally approved.
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Richard Martin made a motion in the matter of the Washington Commons Modification, Washington Street and Central
Avenue be approved with the following conditions – change the first floor windows from store front to 2 over 2 style. The
entrance doors to have no side lights. The stone veneer to remain as originally submitted and approved across the south
façade and down the recess entryways. Also in the style originally submitted (large particle vs. ledgerock). The window
(gang units) change from 4 to 3 on the second floor. In addition, the lobby has changed from 16 feet in width to 12 feet,
reducing the length of the building. Seconded by Robert West.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application. None heard.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
VOTE:
Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; Richard Martin, in favor; Robert West, in
favor; Staci Mannion, in favor; Karen Cavotta, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
7. 2013.006 237 UNION AVENUE DEMOLITION, 237 Union Avenue, Architectural Review of demolition of two existing
buildings in the Urban Residential-3 District.
Applicant: Rob Sutton, Mark Sutton, owners.
Agent: Mike Ingersoll, Matt Brobston, LA Group.
Mr. Ingersoll gave a brief overview of the project. There was a fire in the building. The property is adjacent to the National
Historic District and requires a demolition permit. The building has no historic significance. A SEQRA long form was
provided to the Board by the applicant.
Bradley Birge, Administrator Planning and Economic Development stated the property is adjacent to, but not within, the
historic district. The State Historic Preservation Office identified this site as an “intrusion” on the nomination form for the
establishment of the Union Ave Historic District. It does not represent the Victorian architecture that is prevalent in Union
Avenue or the horse track related theme.
Steven Rowland, reviewed the SEQRA form Parts I and II. There were no large or important areas of concern noted.
Steven Rowland, Chairman stated we have reviewed the SEQR environmental assessment form and determined that Part I is
complete. We have reviewed Part II of the SEQR form and determined that it is accurate. Therefore, I move for the issuance
of a negative declaration of environmental significance because analysis of the information provided and presented in the
environmental assessment form demonstrates that the project will not result in any large and important impact and, therefore,
is one that will not have a significant impact on the environment. Richard Martin seconded the motion.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
VOTE:
Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; Richard Martin, in favor; Robert West, in
favor; Staci Mannion, in favor; Karen Cavotta, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
Steven Rowland, Chairman, asked if anyone in the audience wished to comment on this application. None heard.
Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman asked if they would consider any type of trees or buffering on the property, and consider
seeding the entire property.
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The applicant stated they will add some landscaping on the property, perhaps a hedgerow, and grass.
Steven Rowland, Chairman made a motion in the matter of the application of 237 Union Avenue Demolition,
237 Union Avenue, that the application be approved with the following conditions – low hedge row running north-south along
east edge of property to screen Kings Tavern. Top soil and see the extent of the property including to the north. Robert
West seconded the motion.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
VOTE:
Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; Richard Martin, in favor; Robert West, in
favor; Staci Mannion, in favor; Karen Cavotta, in favor;
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES:
Steven Rowland, Chairman made a motion to approve the minutes of the January 3, 2013, as submitted. Tamie Ehinger
seconded the motion.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion.
None heard.
VOTE:
Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; Richard Martin, in favor; Robert West, in
favor; Staci Mannion, in favor; Karen Cavotta, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 6-0
Steven Rowland, Chairman made a motion to approve the January 16, 2013 meeting minutes with minor changes as
submitted. Richard Martin seconded the motion.
Steven Rowland, Chairman asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
VOTE:
Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; Richard Martin, in favor; Staci Mannion,
abstained; Robert West, in favor; Karen Cavotta, abstained;
MOTION PASSES: 4-0-2
ANNOUNCEMENT OF NEXT MEETING
The next scheduled Caravan will be held on Wednesday, February 13, 2013 at 4:30 P.M.
Joint Meeting with Planning Board on the Rip Van Dam Hotel, will be held on Wednesday, February 13, 2013 at 6:00 P.M.
The next scheduled Design Review Commission meeting is Wednesday, February 20, 2013 at 7:00 P.M.
ADJOURNMENT
Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman made a motion to adjourn the meeting. Richard Martin seconded the motion.
VOTE:
S. Rowland, Chairman, in favor; T.Ehinger, Vice Chairman, in favor; R. Martin, in favor; R. West, in favor; Staci Mannion, in
favor; Karen Cavotta, in favor
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MOTION PASSES: 6-0
Steven Rowland, Chairman adjourned the meeting at 8:37 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Diane M. Buzanowski
Recording Secretary
Approved: 2/20/13
City of Saratoga Springs Design Review Commission Minutes – Wednesday, February 6, 2013 – page 6 of 6
Agenda
CITY OF SARATOGA SPRINGS Steven Rowland, Chair
Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chair
DESIGN REVIEW COMMISSION Richard Martin
Robert West
City Hall - 474 Broadway Staci Mannion
Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Karen Cavotta
Tel: 518-587-3550 fax: 518-580-9480 Robert DeMarco
www.saratoga-springs.org Jason Tommell, Alternate
Design Review Commission Meeting – Wednesday February 6, 2013
City Council Room – 7:00 PM
AGENDA
Salute to the Flag
A. Applications under Consideration:
1. 2012.095.1 Schrade Insurance Building, 227 Washington Street, request for lead agency by Planning
Board for mixed-use development featuring professional office and three apartments in the Transect-
4 District.
2. 2013.009.1 Excelsior Avenue Mixed Use Development, Intersection of Excelsior Avenue and Marion
Avenue, request for lead agency by Planning Board for mixed-use development featuring eating and
drinking, office, retail and residential in the Transect-5 District.
3. 2013.011.1 Home of the Good Shepherd, 394-402 Church Street, request for lead agency by
Planning Board for senior housing and senior assisted living facility in the Urban Residential-1 District.
4. 2013.010 Adirondack Sign Company, 72 Ballston Avenue, Architectural Review of two wall signs in
the Transect-5 District.
5. 2013.008 Goodemote Physical Therapy, 3 Maple Dell, Architectural Review of free-standing sign and
wall sign in the Tourist Related Business District.
6. 2010.047.2 Washington Commons, Washington and Central Avenue, Request for modification of
Architectural Review approval for façade changes to multi-use buildings in the Transect-4 District.
7. 2013.006 237 Union Avenue Demolition, 237 Union Avenue, Architectural Review of demolition of
two existing buildings in the Urban Residential-3 District.
B. Approve Minutes: 1/3/13 and 1/16/13
C. Upcoming Meetings
Wednesday, February 13, 2013 – Joint Mtg. with Planning Board on Rip Van Dam Hotel; 6pm
Wednesday, February 20, 2013 (Caravan: Wed., February 13, 2013 at 4:30pm)
NOTE: This agenda is subject to change. To verify the actual agenda prior to the meeting, please contact the Office of Planning
and Economic Development at 587-3550 extension 2533.
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