Design Review Board
Regular MeetingSaratoga Springs, NY · April 29, 2014
Minutes
DESIGN REVIEW COMMISSION
MINUTES (FINAL)
TUESDAY, APRIL 29, 2014
7:00 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL ROOM
PRESENT: Steven Rowland, Chairman; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman; Richard Martin;
Georgeanna Lussier
ABSENT: Karen Cavotta; Robert DeMarco; Robert West
STAFF: Bradley Birge, Administrator, Planning and Economic Development, City of Saratoga Springs
CALL TO ORDER: Steven Rowland, Chairman, called the meeting to order at 6:03 P.M.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ANNOUNCEMENT OF RECORDING OF PROCEEDING:
Steven Rowland, Chairman stated the proceedings of this meeting are being recorded for the benefit of the secretary.
Because the minutes are not a verbatim record of the proceedings, the minutes are not a word-for-word transcript of the
recording.
COMMENTS FROM THE CHAIR:
A. APPLICATIONS UNDER CONSIDERATION:
No representation for Agenda Item #1 – deferred to the end of the meeting.
2. #2014.013.1 THE FRESH MARKET ROOF MECHANICALS AND LIGHTING, 52 Marion Avenue, Architectural Review
of rooftop mechanicals and lighting in the Transect-5 Neighborhood Center District.
Applicant: The Fresh Market
Agents: Matthew J. Jones, Justin Grassi, Attorneys, The Jones Firm; George Olsen, Olsen Architecture; Todd Curley,
Prime Company
Mr. Jones provided a visual presentation to the Commission reviewing the March submission of elevations both north and
west. Applicant provided views of screening which were provided to staff. Additional screening attempts evolved further
and those views were also presented to the Commission.
Mr. Olsen presented the new version of rooftop mechanicals with a visual presentation to the Commission.
Mr. Curley reviewed the mechanicals which are on the rooftop and what is being done to rectify the situation that currently
exists. Mr. Curley stated the legs were removed from the refrigeration system shortening them and allowing them to be
screened with a much lower wall and avoid conflict with the towers. Samples of the screening materials were provided to
the Commission for their review. They can be any color of choice. It is a smooth surface and will mimic what is there now.
The Seasons 4 unit is not completely screened. Applicant spoke of painting it white. Cannot make it completely disappear.
We have mitigated equipment as best as we can with the exception of the Seasons 4 unit.
Steven Rowland, Chairman, stated that the applicants have come a long way. If we were looking at this plan you have
before us today back in November, personally, I thought this is a fairly reasonably solution. A little more height in the
screening and painting out the unit would make it look even better. I appreciate the fact that this unit has been brought
down in height. If we had known sooner about the size and type of mechanicals, we could have worked with you to an even
better solution. Tonight, we only have four board members present, which presents an issue in itself.
Mr. Curley stated we are under time constraints to open this store. We will do everything within our power to make this right.
We are looking for a May 14, 2014 opening. We would like to finalize where the refrigeration units will go so we can modify
them and prepare for the opening to allow for deliveries.
Mr. Jones stated the Commission could allow for the issuance of a temporary certificate of occupancy through a notice of
decision with conditions. I do not know what those are at this time. However, we could discuss those. The building
inspector could then issue a temporary certificate of occupancy with conditions imposed upon the applicant whereby the
applicant has a set amount of time to become compliant.
Georgeanna Lussier suggested raising the height of the west tower to maintain the original proportionality of the towers
while raising the the height of the screening walls.
Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, stated the height of the screening is not completely screening everything we would like to
have screened.
Richard Martin stated he also feels that raising the height of the towers is a decent option. It is the only option I feel is
acceptable to totally screen the rooftop mechanicals.
Discussion ensued regarding the height of the screening, type of screening, relocation of equipment, modification of
mechanical equipment and the heightening of the towers.
Bradley Birge, Administrator, Planning and Economic Development discussed window elements and signage locations.
Steven Rowland, Chairman, asked if there were any further questions or comments from the Commission. None heard.
Steven Rowland, Chairman, asked if anyone in the audience would like to comment on this application. None heard.
Mr. Curley provided a lighting plan for the Commission's review.
Steven Rowland, Chairman, stated in the matter of the application of the Fresh Market Lighting, 52 Marion Avenue, that the
DRC approve the application with the following conditions: approval is limited to the lighting as presented tonight, 04/29/14;
based upon discussions this evening, the applicant shall return for further discussion in consideration of the rooftop
screening including an increase in the west tower and screening height, and the possible addition of another element to the
screen for horizontal emphasis. As we continue through the development of the elements discussed this evening, the DRC
does not take exception to the issuance of a temporary Certificate of Occupancy to allow for the store opening, as well as
final signage and details at the west elevation. Richard Martin seconded the motion.
Steven Rowland, Chairman, asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
VOTE: Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman; in favor; Richard Martin, in favor; Georgeanna
Lussier
MOTION PASSES: 4-0
The applicant will return before the Commission at the May 21, 2014 Meeting.
The agenda is heard out of order – defer to Agenda Item #1.
1. #2013.036 178 LAKE AVENUE GARAGE, 178 Lake Avenue, Architectural Review of a detached 2-car garage
within the Urban Residential-1 District.
City of Saratoga Springs Design Review Commission Minutes – Tuesday, April 29, 2014 – page 2 of 4
Agent: Ronnie LaPierre, Mountaineer Contracting
Mr. LaPierre apologized for not attending the previous DRC Meeting. He was not aware he needed to be present. Mr.
LaPierre stated roofing materials will be architectural shingles, color to be gray slate 30 year shingle. The garage siding will
match that of the house. 6" wide corner boards will be used in white.
Steven Rowland, Chairman, asked if there were any further questions or comments from the Commission. None heard.
Steven Rowland, Chairman, asked if anyone in the audience would like to speak regarding this application. None heard.
Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, made a motion in the matter of the application of 178 Lake Avenue Garage that the
application be approved with the following conditions: that the applicant use a half-circle louver in lieu of rectangular.
There is a raised pane overhead door with one row of glass. Georgeanna Lussier seconded the motion.
Steven Rowland, Chairman, asked if there was any further discussion. None heard
VOTE: Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman; in favor; Richard Martin, in favor; Georgeanna
Lussier, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 4-0
3. #2013.067 HAMILTON STREET PARKING STRUCTURE, Hamilton Street, Advisory Opinion to the Planning
Board on a 6-level parking structure in the Transect-6 Urban Core District.
Applicants: Jim Quinn; Bruce Levinsky Merlin Development
Mr. Levinsky reviewed all the elevations of the project and drawings that were submitted to the Commission. The change
has been negotiated between the Planning Board and the developer to enhance the parking from 250 to 350 spaces
resulting in a larger parking structure. It was suggested we return before the Commission to review and approve the mass
and scale for the larger project. Materials reviewed for the project were brick and concrete with a sandblasted finish. It was
suggested that the Commission visit a parking garage that Mr. Levinsky built in Glens Falls, similar to this structure, located
in the middle of the city.
Steven Rowland, Chairman, stated the Commission does not have any problem with the overall mass and scale of the
project particularly as we try to maximize the parking spaces on this site. However, we are looking for façade treatments to
help soften the façade. This site of relatively isolated and there is little on adjacent parcels for building context. This
building will be quite visible for all of its sides for the foreseeable future. The Commission is interested in creative treatments
to mitigate the stark nature of the proposed exterior of this structure.
Steven Rowland, Chairman, asked if there were any further questions or comments from the Commission. None heard.
Steven Rowland, Chairman, asked if anyone in the audience would like to speak regarding this application. None heard.
Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman, made a motion for a favorable advisory opinion to the Planning Board in terms of mass and
scale. The Commission does have significant concerns regarding the façade treatment. Georgeanna Lussier seconded the
motion.
Steven Rowland, Chairman, asked if there was any further discussion. None heard.
VOTE: Steven Rowland, Chairman, in favor; Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chairman; in favor; Richard Martin, in favor; Georgeanna
Lussier, in favor
MOTION PASSES: 4-0
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
City of Saratoga Springs Design Review Commission Minutes – Tuesday, April 29, 2014 – page 3 of 4
Steven Rowland, Chairman, deferred the approval of meeting minutes to the next meeting scheduled for May 7, 2014.
NEXT MEETING:
The next scheduled Design Review Commission meeting is Wednesday, May 7, 2014 at 7:00 P.M.
ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business, Steven Rowland, Chairman adjourned the meeting at 7:50 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Diane M. Buzanowski
Recording Secretary
Approved: 5/21/14
City of Saratoga Springs Design Review Commission Minutes – Tuesday, April 29, 2014 – page 4 of 4
Agenda
Steven Rowland, Chair
CITY OF SARATOGA SPRINGS Tamie Ehinger, Vice Chair
DESIGN REVIEW COMMISSION Richard Martin
Robert West
City Hall - 474 Broadway Karen Cavotta
Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Robert DeMarco
Tel: 518-587-3550 fax: 518-580-9480 Georgeanna Lussier
www.saratoga-springs.org
Design Review Commission Meeting – Tuesday, April 29, 2014
City Council Room – 6:00 PM
AGENDA
Salute to the Flag
A. Applications under Consideration:
1. 2014.036 178 Lake Ave Garage, 178 Lake Ave, Architectural Review of a detached 2-car
garage within the Urban Residential-1 District.
2. 2014.013.1 The Fresh Market Roof Mechanicals and lighting, 52 Marion Avenue,
Architectural Review of rooftop mechanicals and lighting in the Transect-5 Neighborhood
Center District.
3. 2013.067 Hamilton Street Parking Structure, Hamilton Street, Advisory Opinion to
Planning Board on a 6-level parking structure in the Transect-6 Urban Core District
B. Upcoming Meeting(s):
May 7, 2014 (Caravan: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 at 5:00pm)
May 21, 2014 (Caravan: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 at 5:00pm)
NOTE: This agenda is subject to change. To verify the actual agenda prior to the meeting, please contact the Office of Planning and Economic
Development at 587-3550 extension 2533.
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