Recreation Commission
Regular MeetingSaratoga Springs, NY · April 26, 2022
Minutes
City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
RECREATION COMMISSION Recreation Commission Chair
Alphonse Lambert
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Amy Smith
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 John Dowd
w.SaratogaRec.com Michelle Merola
Adrianna Britt-Gaeta
Saratoga Springs Recreation Commission Meeting
Tuesday, April 26, 2022
6:30pm
East Side Rec. Field House
Agenda
Attendance
Public Comment
1. Discussion and Vote: Minutes
2. Discussion and Vote: Recreation Department Part Time Personnel
3. Discussion and Vote: Recreation Department Purchases
4. Discussion and Vote: Saratoga County Children’s Committee - $10,000.00
5. Discussion and Vote: Rotary Club of Saratoga Springs - $1,000.00
6. Discussion and Vote: Program Approval: Rock Your Fitness Boot Camp
7. Discussion and Vote: 2022 Recreation Department Fees
8. Discussion and Vote: Youth Service Project Minor Contract with County of Saratoga
9. Discussion and Vote: Establish New Full Time Program Director Position
10. Discussion: Pickleball Courts
11. Discussion: Waterfront
12. Discussion: Bike Park
13. Discussion: East Side Rec. Field House
14. Discussion: Capital Projects
15. Discussion: General Budget
16. Discussion: Director’s Report
17. Discussion: Program Report
Added: Discussion and Vote: Pickleball Lines Recommendation
Adjournment - Next Meeting – Tuesday, May 31, 2022 - 6:30pm at the Saratoga Springs Recreation Center, 15
Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, NY 12866.
If you cannot attend, please submit questions via email to Recreservations@saratoga-springs.org.
Please note change in location to the East Side Rec. Field House, 226 Lake Avenue, Saratoga Springs,
NY 12866.
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City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
RECREATION COMMISSION Recreation Commission Chair
Alphonse Lambert
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Amy Smith
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 John Dowd
w.SaratogaRec.com Michelle Merola
Adrianna Britt-Gaeta
Saratoga Springs Recreation Commission Meeting
Tuesday, April 26, 2022
6:30pm
East Side Rec. Field House
Minutes
The Saratoga Springs Recreation Commission meeting was called to order by Amy Smith at 6:39pm.
Attendance – Robert Manasier, Amy Smith, Michelle Merola, Adrianna Britt-Gaeta, and John Dowd.
John Hirliman
Public Comment – Johnny Miller, came to Saratoga Springs 22 years ago. Over the last few years, the Skate Park
has been bad. People are smoking marijuana and doing drugs at 2:00pm on Saturday afternoon. Mr. Miller reported
the graffiti and offered to paint the ramps. People were bullying him out of the Skate Park. People took a block and
tried moving it into the pit (Skate bowl). Even though they were trying they could not push the concrete. People are
smoking a joint and had to be in Middle School. It happened three times last month. It’s on school property. Mr.
Miller and his family could not go to the Skate Park. People were saying FU in his face. It’s crazy. The minute that
the ramps were in, they were tagged. Mr. Miller recommended allowing bikes and scooters in the Park. He would
like to name the Park a Wheels Park to be inclusive. Mr. Miller’s kids would not be going to park as they do not feel
safe. The Park was self monitored. Mr. Miller had recommendations. People smoke weed. People were loitering.
Mr. Miller recommended removing the picnic table and the bench. People were coming who cannot skate and were
“Posers”. They were the ones bringing the drugs into the Skate Park. With other sports, there were not seating in the
middle of the fields or courts. Kids were spraying F_ _ _ Toga. Mr. Miller recommended having a wall area in one
location not in the Skate Park where people could paint on in a constructive manner. This would give people an
outlet. John Hirliman explained that the School District had brought up the same type of concerns and would be
installing some cameras. Amy Smith thanked Mr. Miller for attending and he was welcome to stay for the entire
meeting.
#14 Discussion: Capital Projects item was moved up.
The 2022 Capital Projects were discussed. Recreation Facility Design and Construction account had
$148,819.75. The DPW was doing the work for the new parking lot on Jefferson Street. The Recreation Facility
account had $50,000.00 for a PA system. An RFP would need to be done. The Court resurfacing account had a
balance of $3,812.00 from the completed project. The Director requested funds be used for the Skate Park or
Pickleball. The Playground facilities will be reviewed. The Director was going to request funding. The Skate
Park project was discussed. The construction cost would be $140,000.00 and the City’s portion would be
$70,000.00. On Deck had collected $55,000.00 already. There were concerns about investing into the park for
people who might destroy the new construction. The Skate Park Clinc and Skate for Groms were scheduled for
the Park. Camp Saradac was scheduled for East Side Rec. There was no one at East Side Rec. John Dowd asked
about having a Security guard at the property like the school does at the Schools. John Dowd mentioned that the
City and the School District should be proactive. Amy Smith asked if the cops walked the East Side Rec. John
Hirliman explained that they drive thru. It would be great if there was a presence, after school between 4-8pm
and on weekends. The money would need to be budgeted for in 2023. Michelle Merola asked to figure out what
happens.
John Hirliman mentioned the Department was looking for staffing. John Hirliman talked about the Skate Park
vandalism and graffiti. John Hirliman reported the playground project needed $900,000.00 more and spoke about
Friends of Recreation and the Grande Industrial Park. The Bike Park was discussed. The LA group had
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City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
RECREATION COMMISSION Recreation Commission Chair
Alphonse Lambert
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Amy Smith
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 John Dowd
w.SaratogaRec.com Michelle Merola
Adrianna Britt-Gaeta
information. Areas for the bike park would need to be identified. Saratoga Shedders were looking to fundraise
for the bike park.
The Recreation Commission was discussing the Capital program properties. John Dowd asked which programs
reached the most people and which projects took care of the most people.
Adrianna Britt-Gaeta encouraged upgrading the facilities because never know. She did not have the opportunity
to participate in the diversity of things. Robert Manasier agreed sometimes it takes people to run something.
Robert Manasier and John Dowd stated that volunteer security does not work and talked about bringing together
the School, & DPW regarding the skate park. Adrianna Britt-Gaeta may have to threat to close due to the
concerns.
Field Renovations were discussed.
John Dowd mentioned that people need to feel safe to come to the Skate Park. Amy Smith recommended getting
a price for security. The Skate Park was usable. There was a camera at the park but not at the skate park. John
Dowd mentioned to look at rotate the security and add the East Side Rec as a stop. Michelle Merola
recommended to protect the investment.
The Skate Park project had gone to the School for approval. It would need State Education approval. The School
Distict had paid for the design cost. The $265,000.00 had come from the Sub division Rec. Fees.
The motion to approve items 1 thru 8 was made by Michelle Merola and seconded by Robert Manasier.
(Ayes All)
1. Discussion and Vote: Minutes – Discussion: The Recreation Commission approved the March 29, 2022
minutes.
2. Discussion and Vote: Recreation Department Part Time Personnel – Discussion: The Recreation
Commission approved the list of staff submitted to Civil Service.
3. Discussion and Vote: Recreation Department Purchases – Discussion: The Recreation Department
would be utilizing Constant Contact for $1,050.00 & purchasing 400 Camp Shirts for Campers + 60 Staff for
$3,060.00 from the budget of $7,860.00.
4. Discussion and Vote: Saratoga County Children’s Committee - $10,000.00 – Discussion: The
Recreation Department was requesting acceptance of the $10,000.00 Saratoga County Children’s Committee
Donation for Camp Scholarships.
5. Discussion and Vote: Rotary Club of Saratoga Springs - $1,000.00 – Discussion: The Recreation
Department was requesting acceptance of the $1,000.00 Rotary of Saratoga Springs Donation for a City
Resident Camp Scholarships.
6. Discussion and Vote: Program Approval: Rock Your Fitness Boot Camp – Discussion: The Recreation
Department was requesting program approval for the City’s Boot Camp. The Recreation Department would
like to co-sponsor the program with Rock Your Fitness LLC Rebecca Weyrauch. The revenue would be split
60/40. The organization would provide the equipment.
7. Discussion and Vote: 2022 Recreation Department Fees - Discussion: The Recreation Department was
requesting to update the 2022 Recreation Department fees by adding $45/$65 Pickleball One Day Workshop
and Fitness Class 7 class session $105/$125 and Daily $18/$20.
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City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
RECREATION COMMISSION Recreation Commission Chair
Alphonse Lambert
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Amy Smith
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 John Dowd
w.SaratogaRec.com Michelle Merola
Adrianna Britt-Gaeta
8. Discussion and Vote: Youth Service Project Minor Contract with County of Saratoga -
Discussion: The Saratoga Springs Recreation Department was requesting to submit to the City Council - authorization
for the Mayor to sign the Youth Service Project Minor Contract with the County of Saratoga. This was an annual
agreement. The County would sponsor the City's youth service project and pay the City a sum not to exceed $6,825.00
from the Office of Children and Families Services (OCFS) Funds requested.
9. Discussion and Vote: Establish New Full Time Program Director Position – The motion to establish
New Full time Program Director position at Grade 13 Step 1 was made by Michelle Merola and
seconded by John Dowd. Discussion: The Recreation Department was requesting the establishment of a new full
time Program Director position at Grade 13 Step 1. The Recreation Department was also requesting the approval of a
new title Program Director. The Recreation Department would be going to the City Council. This position would be 40
hours. This position would be promotional and competitive. The Recreation Commission was given the CSEA Salary
information; Base $56,501 (2022), $58,920 (2023), $61,454 (2024). The Director had spoken with Civil Service and
HR.
10. Discussion: Pickleball Courts – The pickleball players wanted more courts lined. The tennis players did
not want the tennis courts lined.
The Recreation Commission added Discussion and Vote: Pickleball Lines Recommendation
The motion to recommend lining all City tennis courts with pickleball lines was made by Amy Smith
and seconded by Michelle Merola. Discussion: John Hirliman asked if the Commission wanted to wait on
vote as he did not prepare a budget impact for this meeting. The Recreation Commission was recommending
lining all City tennis courts with pickleball lines. There would be 10 tennis courts. The Commission
discussed that there were multiple lines on the Recreation Center courts.
11. Discussion: Waterfront – The email requesting a playground at the Waterfront was given to the Recreation
Commission. DPW and Risk and Safety were supportive of programming at the Waterfront. A theatre area
could be added to one area of the Waterfront Park. This could be used for Open Mic, stories, Brown Bag
Lunch series, Concert series, and more. Michelle Merola recommended Classic Movies.
12. Discussion: Bike Park – The Recreation Commission discussed the Bike Park during the Capital Projects
13. Discussion: East Side Rec. Field House - The Recreation Commission discussed the East Side Rec. Field
House. Camp Saradac would be stationed there this summer. Friends of Recreation was looking to support
the East Side Rec. Field House.
14. Discussion: Capital Projects – The Capital Projects were discussed previously in the meeting.
15. Discussion: General Budget – The March 2022 and Yearend Reports were submitted to the Recreation
Commission. Zero Gravity – 3 Step picked up tournaments at the Scott T. Johnson Recreation Center.
16. Discussion: Director’s Report – The Director’s report was submitted to the Recreation Commission.
Camp Saradac needed more staff.
17. Discussion: Program Report – The Program reports were submitted to Recreation Commission.
Adjournment – The motion to adjourn was made by John Dowd and seconded by Michelle Merola at 8:17am.
(Ayes All) The Next Meeting will be Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 6:30pm at the Scott T. Johnson Recreation
Center, 15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, NY 12866.
Respectfully submitted,
Kathleen Lanfear
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