Recreation Commission
Regular MeetingSaratoga Springs, NY · February 28, 2023
Minutes
City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
Recreation Commission Chair
RECREATION COMMISSION Alphonse Lambert
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Amy Smith
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 John Dowd
Michelle Merola
www.SaratogaRec.com Adrianna Britt-Gaeta
Saratoga Springs Recreation Commission Meeting
Tuesday, February 28, 2023
6:30pm
Scott T. Johnson Recreation Center
Agenda
Attendance
Public Comment
1. Discussion and Vote: Minutes
2. Discussion and Vote: Recreation Department Purchases
3. Discussion and Vote: Recreation Department Personnel
4. Discussion and Vote: Accept the Saratoga Springs Friends of Recreation Fund of The Community Foundation
for the Greater Capital Region donation $14,643.00
5. Discussion and Vote: Accept the Saratoga Springs Friends of Recreation Fund of The Community Foundation
for the Greater Capital Region Basketball sponsor $275.00
6. Discussion and Vote: Award the Printed T-Shirts Spring-Fall 2023 Quote to Walton’s Sport Shop, Inc.
7. Discussion and Vote: 2023 Camp Saradac Programs/Field Trips and Agreements
8. Discussion: Rental fee Recommendation for School in 2024
9. Discussion: Capital Projects
1. Discussion: Skate Park
2. Discussion: Waterfront Playgrounds
3. Discussion: Veterans Memorial Park - Playground Equipment & Building
10. Discussion: Recreation Center Play Area & Bankshot Court/Basketball Courts
11. Discussion: Camp Saradac & Franklin Community Center
1. Discussion and Vote: Franklin Community Center added as Proof of Income Verification (added)
12. Discussion: General Budget
13. Discussion: Director’s Report
14. Discussion: Program Report
15. Discussion and Vote: Accept the Saratoga Springs Rotary Club Donation for Camp Scholarship $1,500.00
Adjournment - Next Meeting – Tuesday, March 28, 2023 - 6:30pm at the Scott T. Johnson Recreation Center,
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, NY 12866. If you cannot attend, please submit questions via email to
Recreservations@saratoga-springs.org.
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City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
Recreation Commission Chair
RECREATION COMMISSION Alphonse Lambert
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Amy Smith
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 John Dowd
Michelle Merola
www.SaratogaRec.com Adrianna Britt-Gaeta
Saratoga Springs Recreation Commission Meeting
Tuesday, February 28, 2023
6:30pm
Scott T. Johnson Recreation Center
Agenda
The Saratoga Springs Recreation Commission meeting was called to order by Derrick Legall.
Attendance – Derrick Legall, Michelle Merola, Adrianna Britt-Gaeta, Alphonse Lambert
John Hirliman, Lisa Morahan
Public Comment
1. Discussion and Vote: Minutes
The motion to approve the December 13, 2023 and the January 31, 2023 minutes was made by Derrick Legall and
seconded by Michelle Merola. Ayes - All
2. Discussion and Vote: Recreation Department Purchases
The motion to approve the Recreation Department Purchases was made by Adrianna Britt-Gaeta and seconded
by Derrick Legall. Discussion: The Recreation Department would be purchasing $ 2,800.00 for Soccer Jersey,
$492.00 for Coaches t-shirts to Walton’s Sports Shop and a Gaga Pit $2,049.00 to S&S for Camp Saradac totaling
$5,449.00. The purchases would be used for Camp Saradac and other activities. John Hirliman showed the Recreation
Commission play games within the inflatable wall Gaga Pitt.
Ayes-All
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City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
Recreation Commission Chair
RECREATION COMMISSION Alphonse Lambert
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Amy Smith
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 John Dowd
Michelle Merola
www.SaratogaRec.com Adrianna Britt-Gaeta
3. Discussion and Vote: Recreation Department Personnel
The motion to approve the Recreation Department Part Time Personnel list was made by Adrianna Britt-Gaeta
and seconded by Derrick Legall. Discussion: The Department hired Elisabeth Bates, Alicia Staigar and Andrea
Carroll.
Ayes – All
4. Discussion and Vote: Accept the Saratoga Springs Friends of Recreation Fund of The Community Foundation
for the Greater Capital Region donation $14,643.00
The motion to accept the Saratoga Springs Friends of Recreation Fund of The Community Foundation for the
Greater Capital Region donation in the amount of $14,643.00 paid for by the Adirondack Trust Company was
made by Alphonse Lambert and seconded by Derrick Legall.
Discussion: The Recreation Department was requesting to accept the Saratoga Springs Friends of Recreation Fund of
The Community Foundation for the Greater Capital Region donation in the amount of $14,643.00 for the Vernon Arena
Scoreboard paid by Adirondack Trust Company. The Adirondack Trust Company donated the original scoreboards in
1993 (Weibel) & 1996 (Vernon) and the Weibel Replacement in 2017. The scoreboard dedication will be in September
during the Can/Am games and installed in the Summer.
Ayes - All
5. Discussion and Vote: Accept the Saratoga Springs Friends of Recreation Fund of The Community Foundation
for the Greater Capital Region Basketball sponsor $275.00
The motion to accept the Saratoga Springs Friends of Recreation Fund of The Community Foundation
for the Greater Capital Region Basketball sponsor in the amount of $275.00 was made by Derrick Legall and
seconded by Adrianna Britt-Gaeta.
Discussion: The Recreation Department was requesting to accept the Saratoga Springs Friends of Recreation Fund of
The Community Foundation for the Greater Capital Region sponsor in the amount of $275.00.
Ayes - All
6. Discussion and Vote: Award the Printed T-Shirts Spring-Fall 2023 Quote to Walton’s Sport Shop, Inc.
The motion to award the Printed T-shirts quote Spring-Fall 2023 to Walton’s Sport Shop, Inc. was made by
Derrick Legall and seconded by Michelle Merola.
Discussion: The Recreation Department was requesting the award the Printed T-Shirts Spring – Fall 2023 quote to
Walton’s Sport shop. Michelle Merola asked if the company had been awarded last year. The company did the
Basketball jerseys/t-shirts.
Ayes - All
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City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
Recreation Commission Chair
RECREATION COMMISSION Alphonse Lambert
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Amy Smith
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 John Dowd
Michelle Merola
www.SaratogaRec.com Adrianna Britt-Gaeta
7. Discussion and Vote: 2023 Camp Saradac Programs/Field Trips and Agreements
The motion to approve the 2023 Camp Saradac Programs/Field Trips and agreements was made by Alphonse
Lambert and seconded by Michelle Merola.
Discussion: The Recreation Department was requesting approval of the 2023 Programs and Field Trips and their
agreements submitted to the Recreation Commission. The vendors and field trips list included but not limited to the
Painted Pony, Mr. Ding-a-ling, Kingpin Bowling, Wilton Wildlife, West Side Rec., East Side Rec, Ice Rink, Saratoga
County Fair, Sky Zone, Uncharted Wild, and others that were within the budget.
Ayes - All
8. Discussion: Rental fee Recommendation for School in 2024 – During the day prior to 2pm, the Scott T. Johnson
Recreation Center lag rate would be used. The school had charged an hourly rate by permit. The Division Street School
charged $62.11/hour on Saturdays, $59.37/hour on Sundays, and Maple Avenue $63.00/per hour on Saturdays, and the
Main gyms $47.00 x 2 per hour. The School District was looking, due to the renovations, to utilize the Scott T. Johnson
Recreation Center gym November - March 8am-2:15pm, 1Junior High court and maybe the racquetball court. The
Department would still have pickleball (6 courts) during this time Monday-Friday. This request would not conflict with
the Waldorf School. The racquetball court would be charged at the current rate.
9. Discussion: Capital Projects – The Capital Projects for 2023 were Playground equipment, Ice Rink Security
equipment, and Bike Park project.
a. Discussion: Skate Park – The Skate Park project should be starting this Spring. The Recreation
Commission discussed the status of the current Skate Park ramps. The ramps purchased in 2006. The bowl
would be removed and drainage was good. John Hirliman explained that the City could find another spot
for the ramps, like Geyser Crest, Veterans Memorial Park, Weibel Avenue, etc., the ramps could be stored
off site while being researched, or could be auctioned. Michelle Merola asked if the City could get good
money for the ramps. Adrianna Britt-Gaeta asked if a ramp would be left for a beginner area. The
Recreation Commission discussed auctioning off the ramps.
b. Discussion: Waterfront Playgrounds – DPW had a plan for the Waterfront Playground. The Recreation
Commission received information regarding the Waterfront Playground from John Hirliman. The
Commission’s feedback was needed. The concept cost $150,000. Michelle Merola wanted to see if the
company could add a zip line. The zip line at the West Side Rec. was enjoyed. Derrick Legall liked the
playground but did not like Shen Green. Derrick Legall recommended royal blue. DPW charged for
Weddings and events at the Waterfront Park.
c. Discussion: Veterans Memorial Park - Playground Equipment & Building
The Veterans Memorial Park Playground Purchase requisition had gone to City Hall. DPW recommended
feedback for the Veterans Memorial Park building. The purchase order was sent to City Council. The
ADA evaluation was attached to the contract with rankings. The custom sign offs were reviewed. The
final products were reviewed. DPW requested feedback for the Veterans Memorial Park building
renovation project. The Recreation Commission were looking on how the walking trail was going to be
reconfigured. Alphonse Lambert asked if the building was going to be similar to the East Side Rec. field
house and would there be an ability to rent out the meeting room. Adrianna Britt-Gaeta thought the
building was nice. Alphonse Lambert said the field house would be too far from the baseball field. He was
worried about vandalism.
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City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
Recreation Commission Chair
RECREATION COMMISSION Alphonse Lambert
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Amy Smith
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 John Dowd
Michelle Merola
www.SaratogaRec.com Adrianna Britt-Gaeta
10. Discussion: Recreation Center Play Area & Bankshot Court/Basketball Courts – DPW was recommending
expanding the Scott T. Johnson Play area and install a Bank Short Court/Basketball Court. The Recreation Commission
loved the concept but was concerned about vandalism of the baskets unless all the areas were enclosed and monitored.
The Commission did not see the product in a public space. DPW wanted to expand the playground with swings. John
Hirliman appreciated DPW’s effort. The neighbors wanted outdoor basketball courts to replace the ones previously on
the site. Originally, the City was waiting for the renovation of the parking lot. Alphonse Lambert said that outdoor
basketball court would be good. It would give families an opportunity to play outside while camp was here. Adrianna
Britt-Gaeta asked if the court would include adjustable hoops. Alphonse Lambert and Adrianna Britt-Gaeta said that
Gavin Park had adjustable basketball hoops and roller hockey on the tennis courts. Derrick Legall really liked the idea
and ability to utilize the space for multiple sports. John Hirliman reported that he would like to have the court up by
summer for Camp Saradac.
11. Discussion: Camp Saradac & Franklin Community Center – The Franklin Community Center wanted the
Department and Commission to know about their program and Project Lift. Colleen Potter spoke of the challenges the
applicants were facing. Project Lift needed more time to obtain the paperwork. Some applicants were homeless and
dealing with a multitude of issues. The Recreation Department was requesting to give the Franklin Community Center
the ability to be the applicant’s verification. The Department would no longer chase their tax forms as many do not file
prior to registration. Franklin Community Center would be their verification. The Department was looking at new form
to make if more easier to follow. Working with the Franklin Community Center, this helped kids in the City. The
organization paid the camper’s portion. According to Franklin Community Center, some of the families did not trust the
government and they struggle with the required paperwork. John Hirliman explained that Camp Saradac accepted
scholarships on a first come, first served basis. The Recreation Commission would allow the Franklin Community
Center to receive spots in Camp Saradac and provide paperwork afterwards. Franklin Community Center meets a
community need. Camp Saradac sold out within 15 minutes and had 54 on the wait list. The City Council had left
$30,000.00 for assignment to utilize for payroll. The number of campers had been reduced from 150-170 to 96. Derrick
Legall asked if staff continued to be an issue. The two locations stretched the staff too thin. The Department wanted
happy families. If too many campers were registered, the camp would not be enjoyable. Adrianna Britt-Gaeta said it
sounded like signing kids up for swimming at the YMCA.
The motion to add Discussion and Vote: Franklin Community Center added as Proof of Income Verification was
made by Adrianna Britt-Gaeta and seconded by Derrick Legall. Ayes – All
1. Discussion and Vote: Franklin Community Center added as Proof of Income Verification
The motion to Franklin Community Center as a proof of income verification was made by Adrianna Britt-Gaeta
and seconded by Derrick Legall.
Ayes - All
12. Discussion: General Budget – MUNIS 2022 Period 13 report would close out on 2/28/2023. The Recreation
Commission would receive the report at the March 28, 2023 Meeting.
Discussion: The MUNIS reports dated 2/24/2023 stated that January 2023 revenue received was $ 206,374.19. MUNIS
reported that expenses were $305,636.71 and a balance of $2,184,208.95. Currently, there were $46,369.76 encumbered
expenses. The Period 13 2022 revenue received was $ 1,274,820.41 YTD which is over $75,270.70 over budget.
MUNIS reported that $2,258,514.59 with encumbrances of $35,590.09 and a balance of $408,702.94. The City had not
received the $70,100.08 in Skate Park donations at the time of this report. They had met their goal. They would be
coming to the City. Revenue was doing well.
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City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
Recreation Commission Chair
RECREATION COMMISSION Alphonse Lambert
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Amy Smith
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 John Dowd
Michelle Merola
www.SaratogaRec.com Adrianna Britt-Gaeta
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City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
Recreation Commission Chair
RECREATION COMMISSION Alphonse Lambert
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Amy Smith
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 John Dowd
Michelle Merola
www.SaratogaRec.com Adrianna Britt-Gaeta
13. Discussion: Director’s Report
John Hirliman explained that basketball ended 2/11 along with Tiny Basketball second session. There was increase in
middle school enrollment. Coaches would need to be more accountable. John Hirliman was recommending having the
scorekeepers on payroll. Alphonse Lambert said if there was an issue the referee needed to shut the game down. The
signs were up. The coaches were inciting the parents. The parents then defended the coaches. Adrianna Britt-Gaeta
said rules had to be implemented and it was a lot. Derrick Legall said he had to walk a person out after being tossed
from the game. There was recommendation of having the coaches referee the first few weeks. This may make them a
better coach.
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City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
Recreation Commission Chair
RECREATION COMMISSION Alphonse Lambert
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Amy Smith
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 John Dowd
Michelle Merola
www.SaratogaRec.com Adrianna Britt-Gaeta
14. Discussion: Program Report- The February 24, 2023 Program Statistics report was included on the online
agenda.
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City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
Recreation Commission Chair
RECREATION COMMISSION Alphonse Lambert
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Amy Smith
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 John Dowd
Michelle Merola
www.SaratogaRec.com Adrianna Britt-Gaeta
15. Discussion and Vote: Accept the Saratoga Springs Rotary Club Donation for Camp Scholarship $1,500.00
The motion to accept the Saratoga Springs Rotary Club $1,500.00 Donation for Camp Scholarship was made by
Michelle Merola and seconded by Adrianna Britt-Gaeta.
Discussion: The Recreation Department was requesting that the Recreation Commission accept the Saratoga Springs
Rotary Club donation for Camp Scholarships in the amount of $1,500.00.
Ayes - All
Adjournment – The motion to adjourn was made by Michelle Merola and seconded by Adrianna Britt-Gaeta.
The Next Meeting will be on Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 6:30pm at the Scott T. Johnson Recreation Center, 15
Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, NY 12866.
Ayes – All
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