Recreation Commission
Regular MeetingSaratoga Springs, NY · March 28, 2023
Minutes
City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
RECREATION COMMISSION Recreation Commission Chair
Amy Smith
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Alphonse Lambert
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 John Dowd
www.SaratogaRec.com Michelle Merola
Adrianna Britt-Gaeta
Saratoga Springs Recreation Commission Meeting
Tuesday, March 28, 2023
6:30pm
Recreation Center
Agenda
Attendance
Public Comment
1. Discussion and Vote: Minutes
2. Discussion and Vote: Recreation Department Part Time Personnel
3. Discussion and Vote: Stewarts Holiday Match Donation - $5,000.00
4. Discussion and Vote: George and Martha Parker Donation - $2,100.00
5. Discussion and Vote: Recreation Department Purchases
6. Discussion and Vote: Amendment Capital Program and Budget for the Outdoor Multisport
Court Project at the Scott T. Johnson Recreation Center utilizing Subdivision Recreation Fees
7. Discussion and Vote: Camp Saradac Trips and Program 2023 revised
8. Discussion and Vote: It’s Climb Time Agreement $775
9. Discussion and Vote: Saratoga Spa State Park Bus Permit Application $35/bus/visit est.
$420 & $70
10. Discussion and Vote: NYS Parks Permit for the Running Program
11. Discussion and Vote: Pitney Meadows Community Farms Agreement for the Running
Program
12. Discussion and Vote: Waterfront Yoga for Free
13. Discussion and Vote: Waterfront Playground
14. Discussion and Vote: Skate Park Dedication Plaque
15. Discussion and Vote: Approve to apply for the USTA Growing Tennis Together Grant up
to $5,000.00
16. Discussion & Vote: Tennis Programs
17. Announcement: Field User Meeting – Wednesday, April 19, 2023 – 6:00 pm
18. Discussion: Capital Projects
1. Discussion: Veterans Memorial Park Playground & Field House MP
2. Discussion: Skate Park
3. Discussion: Ice Rink
4. Discussion: Bike Park
5. Discussion: Scott T. Johnson Recreation Center
19. Discussion: CPSI Course
20. Discussion: General Budget
21. Discussion: Director’s Report
22. Discussion: Program Report
23. Discussion and Vote: NYS DOH Children’s Camp
24. Discussion and Vote: School District Transportation Agreement
25. Discussion and Vote: Contract – Kompan
26. Discussion: Saratoga Springs Little League Request 3/27/2023
Adjournment - Next Meeting – Tuesday, April 25, 2023 - 6:30pm at the Saratoga Springs
Recreation Center, 15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, NY 12866. If you cannot attend,
please submit questions via email to Recreservations@saratoga-springs.org.
2023-03-28 Saratoga Springs Recreation Commission Meeting Minutes 1
City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
RECREATION COMMISSION Recreation Commission Chair
Amy Smith
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Alphonse Lambert
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 John Dowd
www.SaratogaRec.com Michelle Merola
Adrianna Britt-Gaeta
Saratoga Springs Recreation Commission Meeting
Tuesday, March 28, 2023
6:30pm
Recreation Center
Minutes
The Saratoga Springs Recreation Commission was called to order by Derrick Legall at
6:32 p.m.
Attendance: Amy Smith, Robert Manasier, Derrick Legall, Alphonse Lambert, and
Michelle Merolla.
Lisa Morahan, John Hirliman,
Guests: Meghan Connolly Haupt, Kelly Gargano
Public Comment – There was no public comment.
Playground Presentation – Veterans Memorial Park – A place for everyone. The
presenters wanted the playground to be a play for everyone. The playground was not
inclusive from the pictures that they had seen.
Meghan Connolly Haupt was a parent and business owner with a special needs child
came to speak to the Recreation Commission regarding the Veterans Memorial Park
playground.
Kelly Gargano had a 9 year old with special needs, 12 year old with disabilities with
autistic vision. Her husband runs a business in Saratoga Springs Spring Street Deli.
She requested that things be better for everyone. There had been a limited amount of the
play in August. She had met with Commissioner Moran with a follow up meeting with
O’Neil today Megan Connolly Haupt and Kelly Gargano did not know who to talk to and
were told to come here tonight.
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City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
RECREATION COMMISSION Recreation Commission Chair
Amy Smith
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Alphonse Lambert
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 John Dowd
www.SaratogaRec.com Michelle Merola
Adrianna Britt-Gaeta
Megan Connolly Haupt and Kelly Gargano are working for free doing this pro bono.
They explained to the Recreation Commission about ADA, Accessibility and Inclusivity.
The area being fenced in was really important. This kept kids safe. Shade was needed
over the play area. Kid size picnic tables so they could sit and be included. The
rubberized ground cover was recommended as it was difficult to walk and move on the
wood chips. It was requested to have color contrast on edging of anything that could be
tripped over and marked stairs, steps, & ramps.
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City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
RECREATION COMMISSION Recreation Commission Chair
Amy Smith
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Alphonse Lambert
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 John Dowd
www.SaratogaRec.com Michelle Merola
Adrianna Britt-Gaeta
Kelly Gargano also requested bands on the edging, finger channels and tracing images
not just mazes, balancing activity, and raised sand pits.
The presenters requested an accessible teeter totter and/or spinner, music area-need
auditory elements, and supportive chair zip line. The presenters requested no custom
items use off the shelf items. This would allow 100 % could access it and could play
together.
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City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
RECREATION COMMISSION Recreation Commission Chair
Amy Smith
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Alphonse Lambert
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 John Dowd
www.SaratogaRec.com Michelle Merola
Adrianna Britt-Gaeta
Swings encouraged social interaction and development of social skills. The movement of
swings helped develop perceptual skills. Swinging increased spatial awareness and
helped develop gross motor skills. The presenters requested adding all different types of
swings be kept together. Kids could play together. They were looking for a wider foot
print.
The presenters recommended a full support middle harness (red swing) and a parent and
child swing.
The presenters wanted to keep the areas together. They did not want children with
disabilities over in one area and the main area over in another area.
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City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
RECREATION COMMISSION Recreation Commission Chair
Amy Smith
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Alphonse Lambert
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 John Dowd
www.SaratogaRec.com Michelle Merola
Adrianna Britt-Gaeta
Structure
The slide entrance needed to be level with platform. (No lip) The child shouldn’t have to
step up into the slide. Confirm there were railings on both sides of everything to hold on
to that can be grasped with small hands. Be sure to check for the correct diameter of the
railings. It was recommended that there be plastic slides instead of metal. Metal were
too hot and shiny.
Social and educational insert slide
Playgrounds could be outdoor classroom space. A space with things that encouraged
socialization-team activities i.e. pegs on wall pushed in from the other side, and Lounge
nets, that gives older kids a way to enjoy the park that matches their developmental
needs.
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City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
RECREATION COMMISSION Recreation Commission Chair
Amy Smith
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Alphonse Lambert
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 John Dowd
www.SaratogaRec.com Michelle Merola
Adrianna Britt-Gaeta
There is no Camp Saradac for the children. Kelly Gargano explained she went to the
playgrounds with her child. She drove from playground to playground looking for
activities for her to be able to do. She drove around to go to the playgrounds because
couldn’t find activities for her to do. She wanted things that that encourage. She
requested interactive pegs on both sides and extend the age of the playground to include
lounge nets.
The presenters wanted elements with interactive accessible and inclusive social aspects
where they could play with each other. There was a request for an accessibility slide,
changing tables, picture communication board, picture cards, and sign language cards.
There could be a big statement with a small expense. The presenters explained the
difference between ADA compliant and inclusivity.
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City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
RECREATION COMMISSION Recreation Commission Chair
Amy Smith
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Alphonse Lambert
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 John Dowd
www.SaratogaRec.com Michelle Merola
Adrianna Britt-Gaeta
The presenters requested that everyone was able to access the playground. Asked about
other considerations including Senior exercise equipment for strength, flexibility and
balance, an installation that educates about the creatures that can be found in the local
water, an installation that educates about the native Americans who lived here (there’s
protected land within a quarter mile of the playground site), Gardens and planters with
drought resistant and pollinator friendly plants, herbs that keep mosquitoes away along
with raised beds, Eco-friendly design with minimal environmental impact that educates
(e.g. solar shade structure, windmill activity), and the theme was “water” but there didn’t
appear to be any water-related activity or education.
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City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
RECREATION COMMISSION Recreation Commission Chair
Amy Smith
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Alphonse Lambert
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 John Dowd
www.SaratogaRec.com Michelle Merola
Adrianna Britt-Gaeta
The Veterans Memorial Park could be a destination. The presenters were involved with a
special needs parent group with over 100 families. It was recommend that the East Side
Rec. Swing be lowered so it was easier to get child onto the swing. There was a
recommendation to get a high back swing like the red one on the slide. Kelly Gargano
said that the West Side Rec. had no activities for her child.
The presenters did not want the children off in a corner age 2-5 year old area. They
wanted them included in the main playground. Their children are older than 5. The
items looked too small for the older kids.
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City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
RECREATION COMMISSION Recreation Commission Chair
Amy Smith
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Alphonse Lambert
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 John Dowd
www.SaratogaRec.com Michelle Merola
Adrianna Britt-Gaeta
The presenters thanked the Recreation Commission for allowing them to present.
John Hirliman explained the Veterans Memorial Park project that had been order.
Depending on the fall zone, items could be added.
The Department was looking to add and Friends of Recreation/DPW was supplementing.
There was no pavilion and 8 benches. The presenters recommended kid’s picnic sized
tables.
The things were too low. This proposal was what they saw and they had many concerns.
There would be so many kids who would not be able to utilize the playground.
This looked like it was for toddlers. It was beautiful but it’s not for everyone. There was
a boy who was 6’ who would not be able to play on this.
The big concern was that items were too far apart. There was not an interactive
component. There needed to be the types of recommended elements. There was a
special needs program at Geyser Road School throughout the year who would have
nothing. With the extended school year program, the playground and splash pad
adjustment could be amazing.
Alphonse Lambert said their presentation was off the charts. They had common social
bond. Everyone here was for the support of the kids. Alphonse Lambert said bringing
my son during early child development, he was not strong enough and intimidated. Some
kids were underdeveloped. The presenter was explaining that it was a slow and steady
process until Spring, then the child could then get out to the playground and hike 2.6
miles. They go to Gavin Park, Catelyn’s Corners, and travel out of town. The presenters
want to bring their children to play in Saratoga Springs. Derrick Legall recommended
going to the Kompan website to see if there were items that could be added to the
playground.
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City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
RECREATION COMMISSION Recreation Commission Chair
Amy Smith
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Alphonse Lambert
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 John Dowd
www.SaratogaRec.com Michelle Merola
Adrianna Britt-Gaeta
The Recreation Commission discussed the points the presenters presented. They made
valid points. It was sent out designed to have a different feel. Amy Smith said have to
watch and be mindful. Amy Smith said that they did not like it in August. Michelle
Merola said we should look at a way to combine the elements and look at the site lines
and materials. The Recreation Commission discussed what could be done to incorporate
the requests and fencing in the playground.
Waterfront playground – The Waterfront playground was discussed. John Hirliman was
meeting with the Representative on Thursday. Lisa Morahan asked about having an
education center with the playground. The Mayor’s Department had $171,000.00 for a
playground structure. The history of the waterfront was discussed. The playground
include would be up top. The Recreation Commission wanted an inclusive playground.
The Recreation Commission wanted to keep them involve and get a hold of Kompan
regarding the Veterans Memorial Park Playground. They were a group of 100 families.
Alphonse Lambert was concerned that older child could not use the playground.
1. Discussion and Vote: Minutes
The motion to approve the February 28, 2023 minutes was made by Michelle
Merola and seconded by Amy Smith. Ayes-All
2. Discussion and Vote: Recreation Department Part Time Personnel
The motion to approve the Recreation Department Part Time Personnel List was
made by Amy Smith and seconded by Alphonse Lambert.
Discussion:
Saratoga Springs Recreation Commission Meeting
Tuesday, March 28, 2023
Saratoga Springs Recreation Department Part Time/Seasonal Personnel
2023 RPC 2023 HR
Start Date Rate Last Name First Name Job Class Desc
4/12/2023 $ 15.00 Karnes Sarah Recreation Leader
4/4/2023 $ 14.50 Bergbom Lillian Recreation Assistant
Ayes-All
3. Discussion and Vote: Stewarts Holiday Match Donation - $5,000.00
The motion to approve the Stewarts Holiday Match Donation was made by Robert
Manasier and seconded by Amy Smith. Ayes-All
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City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
RECREATION COMMISSION Recreation Commission Chair
Amy Smith
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Alphonse Lambert
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 John Dowd
www.SaratogaRec.com Michelle Merola
Adrianna Britt-Gaeta
4. Discussion and Vote: George and Martha Parker Donation - $2,100.00
The motion to approve the Recreation Department Purchases was made by Robert
Manasier and seconded by Derrick Legall. Discussion: George and Martha Parker
donated $2,100.00 donated $2,100.00 for Camp Saradac Scholarships.
Ayes-All
5. Discussion and Vote: Recreation Department Purchases
The motion to approve the Recreation Department Purchases was made by
Alphonse Lambert and seconded by Amy Smith. Discussion: The Administrative
Director-Recreation was requesting $1,800.00 for 3 staff to attend conference. The City
would be responsible for the registration and only a portion of the lodging, $620.00 for
Reimburse employee for Empire Passes, and $1,000.00 for Office Supplies.
Ayes-All
6. Discussion and Vote: Amendment Capital Program and Budget for the Outdoor
Multisport Court Project at the Scott T. Johnson Recreation Center utilizing Subdivision
Recreation Fees
The motion to recommend the Amendment Capital Program and Budget for the
Outdoor Multisport Court Project at the Scott T. Johnson Recreation Center
utilizing Subdivision Recreation Fees was made by Amy Smith and seconded by
Robert Manasier. Discussion: The Recreation Commission was choosing between
Black netting, $155,000 or galvanized $151,750. The basketball court would have DPW
pave the area. There was 55’ between the building and the street. This would be
galvanized fencing painted black, and netting and orange color. Participants could play
Soccer, basketball, street hockey, etc. The Department was recommending utilizing
funds from the Subdivision Recreation Fees. The goal was to have it installed for the
Summer for kids $140,620.55. DPW would need approximately $5,000.00 and a balance
for contingency. It would not be locked up and not lit. DPS would be able to see in.
Derrick Legall and Amy Smith were concerned about being left open overnight.
Derrick Legall recommended it be Blue Streak blue. He was concerned that the balls
would hit the windows. Originally were looking at a basketball court. Derrick Legall
wanted to be a good neighbor and asked that John Hirliman contact the neighbors as a
courtesy.
Ayes-All
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City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
RECREATION COMMISSION Recreation Commission Chair
Amy Smith
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Alphonse Lambert
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 John Dowd
www.SaratogaRec.com Michelle Merola
Adrianna Britt-Gaeta
7. Discussion and Vote: Camp Saradac Trips and Program 2023 revised
The motion to approve the Recreation Department Purchases was made by Amy
Smith and seconded by Michelle Merola. Discussion:
The number of campers was updated to 128. The goal was to get to 150 as the
Department got more staff. The Department would utilized NYS OCFS funding through
the SC Youth and Aging Board funding to cover the balance.
Ayes-All
8. Discussion and Vote: It’s Climb Time Agreement $775
The motion to approve the It’s Climb Time agreement in the amount of $775.00 was
made by Amy Smith and seconded by Derrick Legall.
Discussion:
Ayes-All
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City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
RECREATION COMMISSION Recreation Commission Chair
Amy Smith
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Alphonse Lambert
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 John Dowd
www.SaratogaRec.com Michelle Merola
Adrianna Britt-Gaeta
9. Discussion and Vote: Saratoga Spa State Park Bus Permit Application
$35/bus/visit est. $420 & $70
The motion to approve the Saratoga Spa State Park Bus Permit Applications to be
signed by the Mayor was made by Derrick Legall and seconded by Amy Smith.
Discussion: There would be 2 applications for the Saratoga Spa State park Bus Permit.
The one was for the pool in the amount of $420.00 and the other was for the Columbia
Pavilion in the amount of $70.00. The amounts would change based on the number of
buses needed due to campers. $35.00 per bus per visit.
Ayes-All
10. Discussion and Vote: NYS Parks Permit for the Running Program
The motion to approve the NYS Parks Permit for the Running Program at no
charge was made by Robert Manasier and seconded by Derrick Legall.
Discussion: The Saratoga Springs Recreation Department was recommending having the
Girls running program daily at the NYS State Park for the older girls during the summer.
There would be no charge.
There would be approx. 100 participants throughout the season with 30-50 per session.
They would Start Spa State Park Little Theatre, Avenue of Pines, Gideon Road, Trails,
Mall area and End Spa State Park Little Theatre - Daily 10am-1pm.
Ayes-All
11. Discussion and Vote: Pitney Meadows Community Farm Agreement for the Running
Program
The motion to approve the Pitney Meadows Community Farm agreement was made
by Derrick -Legall and seconded by Robert Manasier.
Discussion: The Pitney Meadows Community Farm confirmed 3/24/2023 that the
Recreation Department could utilize the farm again this year Mondays – Saturdays
8:30am-10:30am for the Boys Running ages 10-18 and Tuesdays and Thursdays 8:30-
9:30am for families with children ages 4-9. The City would provide an insurance
certificate again this year. There would be no charge.
Ayes-All
12. Discussion and Vote: Waterfront Yoga for Free
The motion to approve the Waterfront Yoga program for Free was made by
Alphonse Lambert and seconded by Amy Smith.
Discussion: The Recreation Department was recommending the Waterfront Yoga
program for Free this summer at the Waterfront. The cost for the program would be
$75/hour. The Department wanted to make sure that the Commission wanted to move
forward prior to developing a contract with our current co-sponsored vendor.
Ayes-All
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City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
RECREATION COMMISSION Recreation Commission Chair
Amy Smith
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Alphonse Lambert
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 John Dowd
www.SaratogaRec.com Michelle Merola
Adrianna Britt-Gaeta
13. Discussion and Vote: Waterfront Playground
Discussion: The Recreation Commission discussed the Waterfront Playground. The
members were recommending a color combination.
The playground was tabled.
14. Discussion and Vote: Skate Park Dedication Plaque
The Dedication Plaque was Tabled
Discussion: Benj Gleeksman was recommending to the following Skate Park Dedication
Plaque. This would need additional approvals from the School District and the City.
Paul Duane and Darren Brachetti were part of the first generation of skaters at the park,
starting in the late 80's. In fact, Darren helped build the original version. Both of them
frequented the park until their
passing.
Daniel Levy was also at the park all
the time throughout his high school
years and beyond, about two
generations later - late 90's into the
mid 2000's. All three were deeply
loved guys who were lifelong
skaters.
15. Discussion and Vote: Approve to apply for the USTA Growing Tennis Together
Grant up to $5,000.00
The motion to approving applying for the USTA Growing Tennis Together Grant
for up to $5,000.00 was made by Amy Smith and seconded by Alphonse Lambert.
Discussion: The Recreation Department, the Wilton YMCA, and the USTA Eastern met
to discuss Growing Tennis in Saratoga Springs. Many ideas to expand tennis this year
were discussed and potential funding could be received through this grant opportunity.
The grant requires the organization to be a USTA member and all staff to be Safe
certified prior to grant submission.
The 2023 Growing Tennis Together grant was available to current non-profit USTA member
organizations. (Examples include community tennis associations, NJTL chapters, community-
based organizations and municipalities such as parks and recreation departments.)The eligible
organization would submit an application based on the need to increase tennis participation.
Priority would be given to grant proposals which target youth initiatives as well as diversity and
inclusion and innovative programming within parks and recreation departments and school
partnerships.
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City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
RECREATION COMMISSION Recreation Commission Chair
Amy Smith
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Alphonse Lambert
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 John Dowd
www.SaratogaRec.com Michelle Merola
Adrianna Britt-Gaeta
Potential Grant Reimbursement Opportunities:
Community Workshop
• For parks department staff and volunteers - open to anyone who may be interested in
instructing tennis.
• Promoted through public Community Pass online registration
• Potential timing is May prior to Memorial Day.
• West Side Rec. with the YMCA as indoor backup.
• This training would be led by Jed Murray, YMCA, and is three hours long. It is free
offered by USTA Eastern.
• USTA Eastern could create a flyer for this workshop.
Red Ball Tennis - Program for Adults
• Run a Red Ball program for adults in the summer (July-August) for 5 or 6 weeks one
evening a week
• West Side Rec.
• Potentially included a restaurant partner to help promote program
• USTA Eastern could create a flyer for this
o Red Ball Tennis
• Dates: June 7, 14, 21, 28, July 5, 12 (6 classes)
• Cost : $27 City and $37 non City
• Time: 6:30 to 8pm
• Location: West Side Rec.
Family Night Series (could also be during the day, if that works better)
• Hosted a Family Night/Day, where kids can come out and play with their
parents/guardians
• Participated in on-court activities led by an instructor or on-site coordinator
• Could host as a introduction event to other tennis programming, or can offer a few over
the course of a few months, for example, one in June, one in July and one in August
• Typically an hour and a half
• Could include food and giveaways
• USTA Eastern could create a flyer for this series
o FREE Family Tennis Social Nights:
• Thursday, June 8 6-7:30pm East Side Rec.
• Thursday, July 6 6-7:30pm West Side Rec.
• Thursday, August 3 6-7:30pm Veterans Memorial Park
USTA League (match hosting)
• Three courts at any time on the following Saturdays: 5/6, 5/13, 5/20, and 6/10.
If Saturday was too busy, Sunday would work as an alternative.
• Three courts at the end of the day on the following Sundays (4 p.m. would be ideal): 6/25,
7/16, 7/30.
• Some places were free outdoors, but you could charge the players if you want. You
would collect money from the team captains.
• USTA Eastern would get a certificate of insurance.
• Tentatively discussed Veterans (Geyser) Park for this
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City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
RECREATION COMMISSION Recreation Commission Chair
Amy Smith
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Alphonse Lambert
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 John Dowd
www.SaratogaRec.com Michelle Merola
Adrianna Britt-Gaeta
• Kelsey Altavilla could set up a call with my colleague Jill Pitts, who coordinates
league play upstate, if that would be helpful to go over the logistics.
National Tennis Month (May)
• Here is a link to the USTA's site about National Tennis Month
• Option to have an event - there are marketing materials and proclamations towns/cities
could do to declare May as National Tennis Month.
• USTA National was doing a promotion for locations that proclaim May
as National Tennis Month. The link above features information on how to submit for the
promotion, which is an opportunity to receive a USTA prize pack.
John Hirlman explained that our Tennis program maxed out and trying to grow tennis by
running Community Workshop, Family Nights and Red Ball for Adults. Red Ball was
played on smaller courts where way more people could play on one court. The
Department would partner with the YMCA and USTA Eastern.
Ayes – All
16. Discussion & Vote: Tennis Programs
The motion to approve the Tennis Programs with the new fees was made by Derrick
Legall and seconded by Michelle Merola. Discussion: The City fees would be
updated.
Community Workshop
• For parks department staff and volunteers - open to anyone who may be interested in instructing
tennis.
• Promoted through public Community Pass online registration
• Potential timing is May prior to Memorial Day.
• West Side Rec. with the YMCA as indoor backup.
• This training would be led by Jed Murray, YMCA, and is three hours long. It is free offered by
USTA Eastern.
• USTA Eastern can create a flyer for this workshop.
Red Ball Tennis - Program for Adults
• Run a Red Ball program for adults in the summer (July-August) for 5 or 6 weeks one evening a
week
• West Side Rec.
• Potentially include a restaurant partner to help promote program
• USTA Eastern can create a flyer for this
o Red Ball Tennis
• Dates: June 7, 14, 21, 28, July 5, 12 (6 classes)
• Cost : $27 City and $37 Non City
• Time: 6:30 to 8pm
• Location: West Side Rec.
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City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
RECREATION COMMISSION Recreation Commission Chair
Amy Smith
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Alphonse Lambert
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 John Dowd
www.SaratogaRec.com Michelle Merola
Adrianna Britt-Gaeta
Family Night Series (could also be during the day, if that works better)
• Host a Family Night/Day, where kids can come out and play with their parents/guardians
• Participate in on-court activities led by an instructor or on-site coordinator
• Could host as a introduction event to other tennis programming, or can offer a few over the course
of a few months, for example, one in June, one in July and one in August
• Typically an hour and a half
• Could include food and giveaways
• USTA Eastern can create a flyer for this series
o FREE Family Tennis Social Nights:
• Thursday, June 8 6-7:30pm East Side Rec.
• Thursday, July 6 6-7:30pm West Side Rec.
• Thursday, August 3 6-7:30pm Veterans Memorial Park
• USTA National is doing a promotion for locations that proclaim May
as National Tennis Month. The link above features information on how to submit for the
promotion, which is an opportunity to receive a USTA prize pack.
The plan was to have the Red Ball Tennis program to breakeven.
Ayes – All
17. Announcement: The Field User meeting would be on Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at
6:00pm at the Scott T. Johnson Recreation Center.
Field User Meeting Agenda
April 19, 2023
6:00pm
Scott T. Johnson Recreation Center
RSVP to recreservations@saratoga-springs.org
Attendance
Field User Agreements & Insurance
Field Maintenance Dates
Closures
Community Pass Facility Calendar and Scheduling
Fees
Usage of Lights
Requests in writing – email per agreement
cc Recreservations@saratoga-springs.org
Questions
The online portion was a good way to schedule. The groups could see the schedule live.
The permits could not be modified or changed by the groups only by the Department.
2023-03-28 Saratoga Springs Recreation Commission Meeting Minutes 18
City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
RECREATION COMMISSION Recreation Commission Chair
Amy Smith
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Alphonse Lambert
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 John Dowd
www.SaratogaRec.com Michelle Merola
Adrianna Britt-Gaeta
18. Discussion: Capital Projects – The Recreation Commission discussed the Capital
projects.
1. Discussion: Veterans Memorial Park Playground & Field House MP – The
Recreation Commission would discuss the Veterans Memorial Park Playground and Field
House. Scheduled July 2023.
2. Discussion: Skate Park – There would be a presentation regarding the Skate
Park at the upcoming City Council meeting. The Skate Park was scheduled to be
installed in 2023.
3. Discussion: Ice Rink – The Skidmore Locker room project was discussed. The
Ice Rink doors was discussed. The Department would be checking with City Hall
regarding the protocol of upgrading the security system at the Ice Rink.
4. Discussion: Bike Park – The Bike Park location had not been finalized.
Saratoga Shedders was looking at a location in the Grande Park and behind the
Skate rink. DPW understood the needs. The Grande Park location was discussed. The
RFP was being worked on.
5. Discussion: Scott T. Johnson Recreation Center – The Scott T. Johnson
Recreation Center Parking Lot area was cleared. The area was under snow. The
Department would be working with DPW. Muli Use Sport Court Area was discussed.
19. Discussion: CPSI Course – The Director recommended having staff attend training.
The question was discussed having the trained staff receive additional compensation for
the certification. John Hirliman said that no one in the City had CPSI training. The
Department did not have the funding for certified playground training and would need to
look at the certification and compensation in some way. He recommended negotiating in
the next contract. The $690.00 per certification. It’s an important piece. Don’t know if
the City would allow the employees do this. The Recreation Commission felt staff
should be trained.
2023-03-28 Saratoga Springs Recreation Commission Meeting Minutes 19
City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
RECREATION COMMISSION Recreation Commission Chair
Amy Smith
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Alphonse Lambert
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 John Dowd
www.SaratogaRec.com Michelle Merola
Adrianna Britt-Gaeta
20. Discussion: General Budget – The 2019-2022 Period 13, 2022 Period 13 and the
February 2023 MUNIS reports were attached to the online agenda.
RECREATION EXPENSES $ 967,553.50
RECREATIONAL FEES $ 53,163.00 FIELD FEES $ 53,486.00 SUMMER RECREATION PROGRAM $ 160,444.20
INDOOR RECREATION FACILITY $ 176,880.17
INDOOR REC FACILITY RENT $ 224,042.18 RENTAL ICE RINK WEIBEL $ 593,025.50
ICE RINKS $ 370,271.74
RACE TRACK PARKING FEES $ 49,611.23 REC PROG CLINIC FEES $ 59,157.50 WATERFRONT $ 11,047.16
CONCESSIONS $ 1,006.17 SUMMER PROGRAM $ 188,262.25 SUMMER PARKING PROGRAM $ 23,360.09
BOYS BASKETBALL $ 31,368.71
GIFTS AND DONATIONS $ 12,391.74 YOUTH PROGRAMS $ 13,977.00
SOCCER $ 29,790.25
HOSP, INS, WC, DISABILITY $ 26,697.84 INS, RETIREMENT, HOSP $ 494,005.20
4 Year Historical Comparisons
Revenue 2019 2020 2021 2022
Total $ 1,123,185.36 $ 775,772.18 $ 1,210,283.18 $ 1,274,820.41
Expenditure 2019 2020 2021 2022
Total $ 2,161,920.24 $ 1,709,935.85 $ 1,873,638.74 $ 2,264,721.02
Expenditure: $2,264,721.02 Revenue: $ 1,274,820.41
43% Recreation/Waterfront
47% Ice Rinks
22% Insurance/Benefits/
Unemployment 29% Camp, Soccer, Clinics,
Race Track Parking &
11% Camp, Soccer, Basketball, Donations
Clinics/Programs
4% Fields
16% Ice Rinks
18% Indoor Recreation Facility
8% Indoor Recreation
2% Insurance/Benefits
2023-03-28 Saratoga Springs Recreation Commission Meeting Minutes 20
City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
RECREATION COMMISSION Recreation Commission Chair
Amy Smith
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Alphonse Lambert
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 John Dowd
www.SaratogaRec.com Michelle Merola
Adrianna Britt-Gaeta
In 2022, the department’s expenses were under budget and the revenue exceeded budget
by over $75,000. The Department brought in over $1.2M in revenue.
Through the capital fund, over $ 134,140.11 in facility improvements went toward
Recreation Expenses for Veterans Memorial Park upgrade, Skate Park, and Ice Rink
doors & lights.
The Recreation Department expended $184,105.67 in the month of February, 2023 and
YTD used $305,636.71 (14%) with a remaining balance of $2,182,208.95.
The Recreation Department received $ 167,330.26 in the month of February 2023 and
YTD collected $292,876.44 (23.3%) with remaining revenue of $963,607.56.
The Recreation Department would need to find money for the November/December for
the Basketball program. The Department paid to run the score board instead of utilizing
volunteers. The front desk cuts will impact the budget. The Department asked for
$54,000 and received $35,000.00. The Department would be looking for funds, would be
trying not to impact, closing a little earlier, and reach out for volunteers to help with the
budget.
21. Discussion: Director’s Report: The
Director gave his report to the Recreation
Commission.
22. Discussion: Program Report – The March
21 Program Statistics report was discussed by
the Recreation Commission.
Program Stats – The Spring Soccer was in
good shape. The Grade 8-12 had more
registration coming close. The Department
got 10 more today.
Introduction to Ice was low this Spring. The
Department was right on par.
2023-03-28 Saratoga Springs Recreation Commission Meeting Minutes 21
City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
RECREATION COMMISSION Recreation Commission Chair
Amy Smith
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Alphonse Lambert
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 John Dowd
www.SaratogaRec.com Michelle Merola
Adrianna Britt-Gaeta
23. Discussion and Vote: NYS DOH Children’s Camp
The motion to recommend sending the NYS DOH Children’s Camp information
when it’s received by the Department to the April 18, 2023 City Council Meeting
was made by Amy Smith and seconded by Robert Manasier.
Discussion: The Recreation Department had not received the 2023 application at the
time of the meeting. The Commission was approving the revised 2022 application until
the 2023 application arrived. Ayes - All
2023-03-28 Saratoga Springs Recreation Commission Meeting Minutes 22
City of Saratoga Springs Derrick LeGall
RECREATION COMMISSION Recreation Commission Chair
Amy Smith
15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, New York 12866 Alphonse Lambert
Robert Manasier
518-587-3550 x2300 Fax 518-584-1748 John Dowd
www.SaratogaRec.com Michelle Merola
Adrianna Britt-Gaeta
24. Discussion and Vote: School District Transportation Agreement
The motion to recommend to the City Council the Saratoga Springs School District
Transportation rental agreement once approved by the Board of Education and
Risk and Safety/City Attorney was made by Amy Smith and seconded by Robert
Manasier. Discussion: The School District and City were working on the finalized
contract language. The Daily rate increased from $40-$50. The Bus Driver Hourly Rates
was $32.65 and the mileage was $2.34. Ayes - All
25. Discussion and Vote: Contract – Kompan
The motion to recommend to council the agreement with Kompan was made by
Derrick Legall and seconded by Robert Manasier. Ayes-All.
26. Discussion: Saratoga Springs Little League Request 3/27/2023
Discussion: On behalf of the Saratoga Springs Little League Board, I write
to respectfully request permission to store a tractor in the empty Rec
building at West Side Recreation Park that faces Division Street. We
have the funds to purchase a tractor to help maintain the baseball fields
on the weekends and during the week as needed, but we currently do not
have a safe space to store it. If approved, we would store the tractor and
any attachments we may need to properly maintain the fields for our
young athletes in the building. We would not store gas on the property.
Thank you so much for your time and consideration. Sincerely,
Heather Miller, Vice President, Saratoga Springs Little League Board
The Item would need to be approved by the DPW, the City and the School Distrct.
John Hirliman explained that the City did not was to mix up equipment items.
The motion to approve the request was made by Amy Smith and seconded by
Robert Manasier. Ayes-All.
Adjournment - The motion to adjourn at 8:28pm was made by Robert Manasier and
seconded by Amy Smith. The next meeting will be on Tuesday, April 25, 2023 - 6:30pm
at the Saratoga Springs Recreation Center, 15 Vanderbilt Avenue, Saratoga Springs, NY
12866. Ayes-All
Amy Smith announced that she will not be at the next meeting.
Respectfully submitted,
Kathleen Lanfear
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