Police and Fire Committee
Regular MeetingSidney, MT · October 13, 2020
Minutes
Park and Recreation Committee Meeting
Minutes
October 13th, 2020
5:30PM
Present: Kali Godfrey, Tami Christensen, Janet Sergent
Absent: None
Visitors:
Clerk/Treasurer Chamberlin, PWD Hintz, George Biebl, Mary Demro and Allen Godfrey of A&E Architects
Due to the current COVID-19/Coronavirus pandemic and rising cases in Richland County, the October
13th, 2020 meeting of the Sidney City Council Park and Recreation Committee will be held via phone
conference only. The public is invited to participate in the meeting by calling 1 (872) 240-3311, access
code 320-948-093.
Rules of the Meeting: Mayor Norby will take roll call at the beginning of the meeting, if you join after
this has happened please announce you are present for official minutes. Mayor Norby will call for
public comment, then Council member comment, then ask for a motion on each agenda item. If you
are calling for an item not listed on the agenda, you will be asked to speak under visitors. Please
announce your name prior to making comment, do not speak over or at the same time as others, and
keep your phone on mute when not making comment.
Quilling’s Park Restroom Facility:
PWD Hintz stated A&E Architects were hired to create the drawings of the proposed Quilling’s
(East) Park Restroom Facility. He stated their estimated cost for rehabbing the existing building
and rebuilding a new building are basically the same, around $60,00 to $80,000. He stated
once the plans were done, which A&E did under the Council approved contract for
approximately $10,000, he solicited bids from local contractors, but the bids came in at
$200,000 or over. He further stated the A&E are willing to do the bidding process, reaching out
further in the State to get more bids, and to be onsite for the construction, which will cost an
additional $10,400.
PWD Hintz stated another option that could be pursued is doing a wood structure, instead of
concrete blocks, which should be less expensive. He stated the City usually uses concrete
blocks as they last longer, as the current structure has lasted 50 plus years. City Clerk/Treasurer
asked if the Veteran’s Park Irrigation System is still a go, and if so how much will it cost and
where are these projects going to be paid out of. PWD Hintz stated both or either would come
out of Park Impact Fees and the irrigation system could cost up to $100,000. Clerk/Treasurer
Chamberlin stated there is only $110,000 in Park Impact Fees, with no new revenue coming into
that account. She stated there is also still a chance that with the new bids for the restroom
facility will come in at $200,000. Alderwoman Christensen stated the restroom facility needs to
use the concrete blocks. Alderwoman Godfrey asked if the irrigation system is more essential
to be done than the restroom facility and PWD Hintz stated both need to be done for various
reasons, but the design for the irrigation system is already done and that the City could pursue
Inter-cap loans for these projects. Alderwoman Christensen stated these are low interest at
2.5%, but the rates are variable, changing every February.
Alderwoman Godfrey stated she has concerns on return on investment with doing a $200,000
park restroom. PWD Hintz stated Quilling’s Park is not the only park that needs new buildings
and that the current facility in Quilling’s Park is 50 years old and has been out of ADA
compliance for 20 years.
Clerk/Treasurer Chamberlin stated she has concerns that either project qualifies for impact
fees, as the ordinance clearly states that they cannot be used to correct deficiencies existing
prior to impact fees or for operation or maintenance issues.
Ms. Demro stated she agrees the best move for durability and value will be the concrete block
structure and that plans that have been drawn can be used any time in any location, as they are
owned by the City now and do not expire. She stated there has been fluctuations in bidding
processes, so understand those concerns. Mr. Godfrey stated the $10,400 is not just for
bidding, rather that cost is approximately $3,500, the rest is for overseeing the construction,
which they will not charge for if the City does not accept bids.
Alderwoman Sergent stated she feels it should be looked into if impact fees can be used, and
Alderwoman Godfrey and Alderwoman Christensen agreed. PWD Hintz stated he and
Clerk/Treasurer Chamberlin will look into it and report back to the Committee. Clerk/Treasurer
Chamberlin stated she would also like to look into the possibility of refunding the City for
projects done since the impact fees have gone into place that could have qualified for impact
fee use.
Meeting was adjourned at 6:01 pm.
_____________________________
Jessica Chamberlin, Clerk/Treasurer _____________________________
Kali Godfrey, Committee Chair
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