Charter Revision Commission Meetings
Regular MeetingSioux Falls, SD · November 30, 2011
Minutes
NOTE: Minutes are considered ‘Draft’ until amended or approved at the next scheduled
meeting.
MINUTES Wednesday, November 30, 2011
Charter Revision 3:30 PM at Carnegie Town Hall
Commission Meeting 235 West Tenth Street
Members Present: Richard O. Gregerson, Dennis W. Aanenson, De Knudson, Robert Thimjon,
Pauline Poletes
Members Absent: None
Staff Present: David Pfeifle, City Attorney; Cari Hanzel, Paralegal/Clerk; and Tamara
Jorgensen, CMC, Assistant City Clerk
Guests: Sue Aguilar, Dean Karsky, Cheryl Rath, and Joe Kirby (by telephone)
1. Call To Order
Gregerson called the meeting to order at 3:30 p.m.
2. Introduction
A. Members
Gregerson welcomed everyone to the first meeting of the Charter Revision
Commission Meeting. The members and staff gave a brief introduction and an
overview of their background.
B. Organization and Background Information
Pfeifle gave a review of the Charter Revision Commission timeline and a review
of the Charter.
3. Election Of Chair And Vice Chair
A motion was made by Knudson and seconded by Thimjon to nominate Pauline Poletes
as Chair. A voice vote was taken and all members present voted yes. Motion Passed.
A motion was made by Aanenson and seconded by Knudson to nominate Richard
Gregerson as Vice Chair. Gregerson respectfully declined the nomination.
A motion was made by Knudson and seconded by Aanenson to nominate Robert
Thimjon as the Vice Chair. A voice vote was taken and all members present voted yes.
Motion Passed.
At this time, Poletes assumed the role as Chair for the meeting.
4. New Business
A. Outline of Commission Meeting Timeline
Pfeifle explained that the Charter Revision Commission is required (by
ordinance) to have one public meeting annually. Pfeifle suggested that a
schedule be set up to include one more meeting in December and a few more
meetings in January. This would allow time for the Commission to review
recommended changes to the Charter received by citizens. A report needs to be
presented to the City Council by the end of January, 2012. Additional deadlines
apply before proposed changes can be added to the ballot for the April 2012,
election.
Future Charter Revision Commission Meetings will continue to be held at 3:30
p.m. at the Carnegie Town Hall, 235 W. 10th Street. After discussion, the
following dates were selected for those meetings: Friday, December 16,
2011; Wednesday, January, 4, 2012; and Friday, January 27, 2012.
Voting was discussed at this time. Pfeifle stated that, in the past, before an item
can be added to a ballot for public vote, this group required a vote of a super-
majority of the Commission members. With this Commission, a majority vote is
three and a super-majority vote is four. Gregerson stated that their past practice
was for everyone to vote if the item was recommending a change to the Charter.
If a member cannot be physically present, the option of the member being
present by telephone was suggested.
Discussion was held regarding holding a meeting after 5:00 p.m. to encourage
public input from citizens who could not attend during the day.
B. Consideration of Whether and/or When to Extend Invitations for Input from
Mayor, City Council Members, City Directors and the Public
All of the Commission members would like invitations extended immediately.
Pfeifle suggested that the City Attorney's Office issue a press release to request
public input and to include the future meeting dates.
A motion was made by Gregerson and seconded by Aanenson granting
permission for the City Attorney's Office to issue a press release as discussed. A
voice vote was taken. All members present voted yes. Motion Passed.
Pfeifle explained that written submissions could be accepted for input from
anyone regarding changes to the Charter. The correspondence should be
received at least three days in advance of the meeting so the items can be sent to
the Commission members for review.
C. Ground Rules For Commission Votes - Majority vs. Super-majority
A motion was made by Knudson and seconded by Aanenson that a super-
majority vote would be needed before an item can be added to a ballot. A voice
vote was taken. All members present voted yes. Motion Passed.
D. Discussion of Future Meeting Dates
Item handled. See Item 4A for action taken.
5. Public Input
Joe Kirby spoke to the Commission via conference call. He wanted to give the
commission background information on the original Charter. Kirby stated that he was
one of the original writers of the first draft of the City Charter in 1994. The original role
of the City Council was to serve in a part time capacity (10-15 hours a week) addressing
policy and legislative issues. He would like the Charter Commission members to
consider cutting back the role of the City Council members so that more citizens could
serve on the Council.
Kirby would also appreciate if the Commission could consider “instant run-off voting”,
which is also called “Ranked Choice Voting”. When there are multiple candidates for
the same office, this process allows the citizen to select his/her choice of candidate by
putting the number 1-2-3 next to their selection.
Knudson asked if there were any additional cities in the Midwest of comparable size to
Sioux Falls that have used Ranked Choice Voting. Kirby stated that St. Paul recently
had an election where this method was used. Minneapolis has also used this method.
Poletes asked Kirby to send links of the voting runoff information to Pfeifle so he could
make them available for the Commission to review.
Thimjon asked if this was an item that the Commission could review or if they would
need approval from the State. Pfeifle stated that he would have to check State law and he
would also like to speak to Sue Roust about it. He has already told Roust that this
subject may come up at this meeting and they will need to discuss it again in more detail.
Knudson asked Kirby for additional information regarding his suggestion on cutting back
time for City Council Members. Kirby reviewed the City Commission form of
government and how that operated. For a number of reasons, a new form of government
was researched by the League of Women Voters. The Strong Mayor/City Council form
was selected as the best method to suit Sioux Falls. The Mayor would run City
government with the Council being part-time, not having offices or staff, and meeting
infrequently. He would like the Commission to see what can be done to reduce the role
of the City Council so they do not have to work so many hours. Knudson stated that she
was on the City Council for eight years and that she never felt like it was close to a full
time job.
Kirby stated he has spoken with a friend who now serves on the City Council. This
person had to get off some volunteer boards because of the large amount of time that was
required to serve on the City Council.
Gregerson asked Kirby if the language for the original Charter came from a City that had
a city manager, not a strong mayor. Gregerson asked if there should be a difference in
the Charter when you have a mayor that is elected vs. a city manager. Discussion
followed.
Kirby will be sending to Pfeifle copies of documents from 1990 that described the role of
the City Council. Pfeifle received permission from Kirby to post this information on the
City's website.
Gregerson asked if the statutory authority for Home Rule could be included in their
binders for future reference. This information states the limitations of Home Rule.
Knudson gave recognition to the two City Council Members and the citizen in
attendance. Knudson asked if they had any thoughts or if they wished to add to public
comments.
Gregerson asked Poletes how she would like to run the meetings and recommended that
questions be directed through the Chair. She agreed to this process for the future
meetings.
6. Adjournment
A motion was made by Gregerson and seconded by Aanenson to adjourn the meeting at
4:14 p.m. A voice vote was taken and all members present voted yes. Motion Passed.
Tamara Jorgensen, CMC
Assistant City Clerk
A reminder that the next Charter Revision Commission Meeting is scheduled for
Friday, December 16, 2011, at 3:30 p.m. at the Carnegie Town Hall, 235 W. 10th
Street.
Agenda
AGENDA Wednesday, November 30, 2011
Charter Revision 3:30 p.m.
Commission Meetings Carnegie Town Hall
235 West 10th Street
1. Call To Order
2. Introduction
A. Members
B. Organization and Background Information
3. Election Of Chair And Vice Chair
4. New Business
A. Outline of Commission Meeting Timeline
B. Consideration of Whether and/or When to Extend
Invitations for Input from Mayor, City Council Members, City
Directors and the Public
C. Ground Rules For Commission Votes - Majority vs. Super-
Majority
D. Discussion of Future Meeting Dates
5. Public Input
6. Adjournment
Charter Revision Commission Members: City Staff:
Dennis W. Aanenson David Pfeifle, City Attorney
Richard O. Gregerson Sue Roust, Interim City Clerk
De Knudson Cari Hanzel, Paralegal/Clerk
Pauline Poletes Tamara Jorgensen, CMC, Assistant City Clerk
Robert Thimjon
Future CRC Meetings: To Be Determined
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