Fiscal Committee Meeting
Regular MeetingSioux Falls, SD · July 3, 2012
Minutes
MINUTES Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Fiscal Committee 4:50 PM
Carnegie Town Hall
235 West 10th Street
Members Present: Council Member Sue Aguilar, Council Member Jim Entenman, Council
Member Greg Jamison and Council Member Dean Karsky
Members Absent: None
Staff Present: Tamara Jorgensen, CMC, Assistant City Clerk; Jim David,
Legislative/Operations Manager; David Bixler, Budget Analyst; Rich Oksol, Lead Internal
Auditor
Guests: Cheryl Rath, Bob O’Connell, Michelle Erpenbach, Sue Quanbeck Etten, Gail Eiesland
1. Call To Order
Councilor Karsky called the meeting to order at 4:50 p.m.
2. Approval of Minutes
A Tuesday, June 5, 2012
A motion was made by Sue Aguilar and seconded by Greg Jamison to approve the
minutes dated Tuesday, June 5, 2012.
Karsky called for a voice vote on that motion and all members voted yes. Motion
Passed.
3. Reports and Updates
A Developing City-Wide Fees Including Park Department Fees by Rich Oksol, Lead
Internal Auditor; Additional Reports by David Pfeifle, City Attorney
(Recodification of All Fees Into One Chapter); Sue Quanbeck Etten, Central
Services Director (Placing Comprehensive Fee Schedule on the City's Website);
and Jim David, Legislative/Operations Manager (Departmental Survey and City-
Wide Policy on Fees)
Oksol reviewed the following three recommendations for the City Wide Fees: 1)
Have a city wide policy; 2) Consolidate all the fees in ordinance under one
chapter; 3) Provide the information on the city's website.
Karsky asked the City Attorney's Office for an update on the recodification
process. Gail Eiesland, Deputy City Attorney, stated that the publisher will be
placing all of the fees under one chapter. In addition, the IT Department is going
to prepare a website with links to places in the ordinances where the fees are
established. Karsky asked Sue Quanbeck Etten, Director of Central Services, if
we will be able to set up a webpage that will accommodate the citizens. Quanbeck
Etten stated there will be a page set up with links in the codified law. Discussion
followed regarding the timeline.
Karsky asked Jim David, Legislative/Operations Manager, if he had any additional
comments regarding the city wide fees. David stated he had distributed a survey
to city directors which requested their feedback. He received a joint response
from the directors stating as follows: They agree on developing a guideline for the
frequency of review of their fee amounts and establishing the goals for the level of
cost recovery associated with various fees. The directors thought we should start
with a few fees first to see how this would work rather than doing all of them at
one time. The directors stated they would like to be engaged during this entire
process.
Entenman requested clarification on the process. David responded that Oksol's
report talked about classifying the fees into five separate categories. The
categories would then be reviewed for increases per a predetermined schedule.
B Discussion on Creation of the Capital Program Review Committee
Karsky stated that there was a separate meeting before the Informational
Meeting today regarding the Capital Program Review Committee. It was attended
by himself, Greg Jamison, Tracy Turbak, Director of Finance; Chad Huwe, City
Engineer for Public Works; Dean Borchardt, Business Operations Manager for
Public Works; David Bixler, Budget Analyst; and Jim David,
Legislative/Operations Manager. The purpose of the meeting was to review the
direction of this committee, whether or not it is necessary, and what information
needs to be reviewed, etc.
Jamison gave background information on this committee stating the initial goal
was to determine a process for handling surplus funds. City Council consensus
was that there was a need for a Capital Program Review Committee to review how
the CIP information is presented to the City Council.
Discussion was held regarding reviewing Executive Orders and Ordinances and
'cleaning up' the language.
Jamison would like to continue with discussions regarding the following two
issues:
1) When would this committee review the budget? Discussion was held regarding
the current process. With the proposed changes, this committee would be
involved with the budget process prior to printing and final preparation. Does the
committee want to review the budget after it has been 'finalized' and then the
information is reviewed and amended?
2) If there are surplus funds, should this review committee determine the next
items that should be funded? This was the initial goal for this committee. These
recommendations would come before the City Council for review and/or possible
revisions.
Entenman asked who was going to be on this committee. Jamison stated that right
now a director from each of the following departments would attend: Planning
and Building Services, Parks and Recreation, Public Works, and the Finance
Department. Other members would include a representative from the
following: the Infrastructure Review Advisory Board (IRAB); the Planning
Commission; the Parks and Recreation Board; and a citizen from the Sioux Falls
Development Foundation or the area Chamber of Commerce.
Entenman stated that he did not understand why we needed a separate committee.
Discussion was held regarding the current process and the input received from the
directors prior to the budget being finalized. He stated that it was appropriate for
the City Council members to ask questions of the Directors during the budget
review process, as it is set up now.
Karsky stated that the group spent a lot of time today reviewing the budget process
specifically on how it comes to the Council, who it goes through, and the number
of people who review the information. Karsky stated that they do not want to
'legislate by committee' and that this would not be the purpose of this
group. Karsky stated that they would just like to ensure that the budgets are
thoroughly reviewed prior to coming before the City Council.
Jamison stated they are not removing any authority from the City Council. They
are looking for a group of people who come from cross sections of the community,
etc. who are visionaries for the community to review these plans. He would like
to see more people who are affected by the budget have an opportunity for review
and input.
Aguilar stated the timeline is in the current ordinances for review. Eiesland
discussed the definitions and differences between ordinances and Executive
Orders. Discussion was held regarding initial references to this committee.
Entenman asked how the process would continue if the review committee
disagrees with the proposed budget. Discussion was held regarding the current
procedures. Aguilar stated that she viewed this committee the same as the
Planning Commission, that they may not agree with their recommendations but
their input does assist in the process. As budgeting is the main responsibility of
the Council, there may be disagreements on the reports, but the Council could use
the information in reviewing the budget. She stated this is another way for the
City Council to enhance the job that they are doing.
Jamison asked if they see fundamental value in receiving input from other
people. They have the opportunity to ask outside groups how they feel about the
budget. Karsky stated that the budget is somewhat of a political process. He felt
input was important and a lot of progress was made today.
C Determine a Process/Procedure for Reassigning Excess Funds to
Benefit Citizens (Rebate Checks, No Property Tax Increases, a Sales
Tax Holiday, etc.) by Council Member Kermit L. Staggers
This item was deferred to a future meeting.
4. Open Discussion
Due to the budget hearings scheduled for Tuesday, August 7, 2012, the Fiscal
Committee Meeting is cancelled.
Karsky spoke about the July 10, 2012, City Council Meeting stating there would
be three Resolutions to consider regarding the pension plan changes. He asked if
the committee members had any questions or if they had any input. There was
none.
5. Adjournment
Councilor Karsky adjourned the meeting at 5:25 p.m.
Tamara Jorgensen, CMC
Assistant City Clerk
Agenda
AGENDA Tuesday, July 3, 2012
Fiscal Committee *** 4:30 PM
Carnegie Town Hall
235 West 10th Street
***Committee Meeting will start immediately following the adjournment of the 4:00 p.m.
Informational Meeting
1. Call To Order
2. Approval of Minutes
A. Tuesday, June 5, 2012
3. Reports and Updates
A. Developing City-Wide Fees Including Park Department Fees by Rich
Oksol, Lead Internal Auditor; Additional Reports by David Pfeifle, City
Attorney (Recodification of All Fees Into One Chapter); Sue Quanbeck
Etten, Central Services Director (Placing Comprehensive Fee
Schedule on the City's Website); and Jim David,
Legislative/Operations Manager (Departmental Survey and City-Wide
Policy on Fees)
B. Discussion on Creation of the Capital Program Review Committee
C. Determine a Process/Procedure for Reassigning Excess Funds to
Benefit Citizens (Rebate Checks, No Property Tax Increases, a Sales
Tax Holiday, etc.) by Council Member Kermit L. Staggers
4. Open Discussion
5. Adjournment
Fiscal Committee Members: City Staff:
Councilor Dean Karsky, Chair Lorie Hogstad, City Clerk
Councilor Sue Aguilar David Bixler, Budget Analyst
Councilor Jim Entenman
Councilor Greg Jamison
Fiscal Committee Members: City Staff:
Councilor Dean Karsky, Chair Lorie Hogstad, City Clerk
Councilor Sue Aguilar David Bixler, Budget Analyst
Councilor Jim Entenman
Councilor Greg Jamison
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