Public Safety Committee (Meets 3rd Thursday of each month at 6:00 p.m.)
Regular MeetingSuperior, WI · July 21, 2022
Minutes
Proceedings of the Public Safety Committee
July 21, 2022
6:00 p.m. Gov’t Center, Room 204
Members Present: Councilor Elm, Councilor Ledin, Councilor Johnson,
Others Present: Chief Alexander, Chief Gordon, Battalion Chief Tribbey, Lt. Trone,
Some participants joined the meeting via Google Meet: Councilor Van Sickle
Approval of minutes: May 19, 2022
Motion by Councilor Elm, seconded by Councilor Ledin and carried to approve the Public
Safety meeting minutes of May 19, 2022
New Business
1. Police Department and Fire Department updates
Chief Alexander : Chief Alexander briefly spoke to the incident involving an off-duty police Sgt.
Investigation is on-going. Councilor Ledin asks how the rank and file are dealing with the incident.
Chief Alexander says as well as can be expected. An update was given regarding the issues that
occurred with the Palace Bar. Chief Alexander says the situation is resolved and that the owners
voluntarily relinquished the liquor license on June 30th. Councilor Elm asks as to whether the issues
that the Palace faced have now moved to other businesses. Chief Alexander says they have not. He
also stated that several establishments reached out to be pro-active about avoiding a situation like the
Palace. Councilor Ledin asks if any establishment have been in fear of being shut down. Chief
Alexander states that they have not. Councilor Johnson asks about the license enforcement team. Chief
Alexander describes the team and what they will be doing. Also discussion regarding the states new
policy involving penny machines in bars.
Chief Alexander gave a brief update on the theft issue at Wisconsin Point. He stated that there had
been increased patrol presence in the area but no thefts were witnessed. Around 37 hours of
enforcement activities have occurred.
Councilor Ledin asks how the rank and file in the police department are doing regarding the incident
that Sgt. Swanson was involved in. Chief Alexander states that there are doing as well as can be
expected. There have been a few incidences of hostility towards officers. There have also been some
phone calls placed to the police department desk.
Chief Gordon: Chief Gordon gives update on how the mental health system within the fire department
worked for the E 2nd St incident. He also praised the work that both the fire department and the police
department did on that scene. He stated that both departments work very well together.
Chief Gordon gives an update on the drone program at the department. Drones are up. The department
has 3 certified pilots. Drones were bought with grants and did not require any taxpayer money. A call
out was done for a drone pilot last week to assist in a search. Call out went well but the pilot and drone
ended up not being needed for the scene. When drones are need it will be off-duty personnel that are
called in.
Car seat clinics are coming back after a hiatus due to the pandemic. First clinic will be on August 4th.
Department will be working closely with the Duluth Fire Department to ensure that there will be car
seat clinics available in the Duluth/Superior area every two weeks.
There was an offer made to a new hire. Hopefully the newest firefighter will start September 1st. This
will bring the department to full staff.
Chief Gordon states that Station 3 is looking great. He encourages councilors to stop by the station and
take a look at the building and grounds. He praised the work that the members assigned to engine 3
did. He also states that he hopes it will continue at station 2.
Councilor Johnson asks how the search for funding for the department’s mental health system is going.
Chief Gordon states that the cost right now is for the app that the department uses. Chief Gordon says
that all 7 members involved in the E 2nd St incident utilized the system as well as attended the debrief.
He says that the stigma that surrounded firefighter mental health is going away. Councilor Ledin
briefly mentions the new Federal Mental Health Crisis line 988.
No action
2. Police Department Annual Report Summary: Chief Alexander begins a summary of the police
department annual report for 2021. The department is beginning to transition back to a pre-pandemic
response model. More in person contact is continuing. There has also been an increase in self-initiated
contacts with the police from the community. Chief Alexander hopes to bring back the citizens academy
which has been on hold due to the pandemic. One of the biggest additions to the department has been the
Coordinated Response Specialist Jen Stank. General discussion on the strengths the position gives for
multiple community members who may interact with her. This may be in lieu of other contacts they may
normally have with officers. Some successes have been assisting some homeless to find permanent
housing, running the Pathways to Hope program, as well as the overdose outreach program.
Approximately 15 people have been assisted and having success while working with Jen.
There has been an increase in civilian staff the last year. A community service officer oversees the
online reporting. This helps to free patrol officer resources.
Chief Alexander discusses department training. The minimum training requirement per officer is 24
hours per year. This would add up to 1500 hours of annual training. However, Chief Alexander states
that there have been closer to 7,000 hours of training for the department. Some of the training has been
assisting with the “soft skills” officers can use as well as de-escalation training and mental health
training. Officers also train in their specialty areas.
Staffing issues continued to be a problem. Department is currently 7 officers down. They are swearing
in 2 next week with one starting the academy in August and the other entering the field training
program. Recruitment issues are a reality. Low numbers for testing. Discussion on ideas of how to
stem this problem.
Overdoses continue to be an on-going community issue. There are already more OD deaths this year
than all last year. Chief Alexander stated that there has been some success in prosecuting overdose
deaths as homicides. However, these investigations take some time. Chief Alexander ends summary.
Councilor Elm discusses that he likes having the annual report in committee. He also asks if there is
data that relates to the 15 people the Coordinated Resource Officer has helped. Specifically, has it saved
money and resources. No data right now. Chief Alexander states that some clients have called Jen
directly rather than calling 911. Councilor Elm then asks if the training hours reported by the
department are in line with others in the state. Chief Alexander states that the department is probably
on the high end of training due to ancillary assignments that officers have.
Councilor Johnson says that Jen has had an impact on a class that he teaches at the high school. He
feels that hearing things from her has a larger impact. Brief discussion on fentanyl and the possible
tainting of THC with fentanyl. Councilor Johnson also praised the work of School Resource Officer
Darst. Councilor Johnson asks about active shoot training. He also asks whether going down to two
SRO in the district is having any effect on outcomes. Discussion on the School Resource Officer.
Councilor Ledin ask if officers carry Naloxone. Chief Alexander states that they do. He then states
that it is mostly grant funded and no cost to the taxpayer. Councilor Ledin then asks about general
trends on crime in the city. Chief Alexander says that drugs and alcohol continue to be drivers of
crime. However, there is a general decline in crime over the last five years as well as arrests.
Councilor Elm asks about repeat Narcan users. Chief Alexander says that there are repeat users. Lt.
Trone states that OD deaths are already ahead of last year’s total.
Councilor Johnson asks how the Coordinated Response Officer is being received by the rank and file.
Lt. Trone answers that she is being very well received. Discussion ensues about online reporting, the
DOR system and its use, and VR/online training. Chief Alexander also briefly discusses the over one
million dollars in grants the department has secured.
Councilor Van Sickle states that the meeting has already been going for an hour and asks if discussion
can be continued at the next meeting.
Motion by Councilor Elm to hold police department annual report in committee. Seconded by Johnson.
Motion passes
3. Citizen Traffic Complaint Review: Councilor Van Sickle appears via Google Meet to speak on citizen
traffic complain review. Discussion centers around speed and engine breaking on E 2nd St specifically
on the 5200 block of E 2nd and the area north of the via duct near Super One. Councilor Van Sickle states
she is trying to advocate for constituents and is looking for help with how to work on this problem.
Lt. Trone states that there have been 172 traffic stops in that general area since May. He says that
increased presence assists in keeping speed down. The “your speed is” sign has been out on E 2nd. He
further states that area officers have been told to look for engine breaking and speed in that area. Chief
Alexander asks where the “no engine breaking” signs are. Councilor Van Sickle states that they are all
on E 2nd. Lt. Trone states that no engine breaking is a city ordinance. The ticket is currently $273.00
and goes to the driver of the truck. Chief Alexander speaks to the possibility of hiring extra details to
enforce these issues in the areas. Discussion ensues on different ticketing possibilities and the
possibility of fining the company. Ordinance will be looked at to see what it exactly says. A review
will be done at next meeting.
Discussion about the online citizen reporting system and how that is used to address these types of
issues. Specifically, what does it look like on the officers end. Complaint comes in and is assigned to
the area officer. There had been an issue with the link but it has been fixed.
Action: receive and file
Councilor Ledin motions to adjourn. Councilor Johnson seconds
Meeting adjourned at 7:32 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted
Battalion Chief J.A. Tribbey
Agenda
Public Safety Committee
City of Superior, Wisconsin
6:00 p.m.
Thursday, July 21, 2022
Government Center, Room 204
Public Safety Committee Members: Councilor Ledin, Councilor Elm, Councilor Johnson,
Councilor Bender (alternate)
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Agenda
Approval of minutes: May 19, 2022
New Business:
1. Police and Fire Department updates
2. Police Department Annual Report Summary
3. Citizen Traffic Complaint review
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Proceedings of the Public Safety Committee
May 19, 2022
6:00 p.m.
Government Center, Room 204
Members Present: Councilor Elm, Councilor Ledin
Others Present: Chief Gordon, Chief Alexander, Capt. Winterscheidt, Maria Lockwood,
Linda Cadotte, Todd Janigo
Some participants joined the meeting via Google Meet.
Approval of minutes: April 21, 2022
Motion by Councilor Elm, seconded by Councilor Ledin and carried to approve the Public Safety meeting
minutes from April 21, 2022.
New Business
1. Police Department and Fire Department updates
Chief Alexander talked about the Palace Bar and the high frequency of calls that the department has
responded to this year, including liquor law violations, violence, fights, and also a shooting inside the
establishment this spring. The Chief said we are currently working through the due process with the
owners. This has been done with other establishments, most recently Lady Vi’s. Linda Cadotte asked
about recent break in’s to vehicles at WI Point. Chief Alexander said it is common once the weather
warms that people are out more and property crimes tend to increase. The Chief said we will try to get
additional patrols in that area. The Chief talked about what we have done to combat this issue in past
years, and thinks that this would be a good location for a camera to be placed with some proper
signage to deter such crime.
Chief Gordon thanked Donna Swanson for taking the minutes for our meetings for many years. This is
her last Public Safety meeting as she will retire soon. Chief Gordon talked about updates on Fire
Department facilities. ESD has been to the main fire hall to assess the sod situation. At Station #2, a
concrete project is ongoing and the soil is being analyzed. Once that’s done, a new slab will be put in.
The goal after that project is to work on Station #2 and Station #3 on getting an extra shower and a
workout room completed. Chief Gordon said next week department members will be doing physical
assessments. These are mandated by the State of WI every two years. The department is the state
hazmat team, and along with the successful assessments, money is allocated from the state each year
for the team. The physical assessments are outsourced to a private company, and they come to the
stations to do the tests on site. The sleep study that is being monitored by UWS is in the second stage.
The end goal is to have quantifiable evidence that a change needs to be made with dispatching, so that
all members are not informed of all calls, often interrupting their sleep. Selective dispatching is a
system that would accomplish this. A controlled burn was done yesterday on Barkers Island, and all
went well.
2. Pre-emption system for Superior
Todd Janigo gave some updates on this project, and provided the committee with estimates of cost.
Motion by Councilor Elm, seconded by Councilor Ledin and carried to send this item to the Finance
Committee.
3. Flock safety camera trial
Capt. Winterscheidt shared a department draft policy that was recently created. There was discussion
on the camera system and questions fielded to Capt. Winterscheidt and Chief Alexander. Chief
Alexander asked that additional questions be forwarded to him prior to the next meeting.
Motion by Councilor Elm, seconded by Councilor Ledin and carried to hold this item in committee.
Meeting adjourned at 6:55 p.m.
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