Public Safety Committee (Meets 3rd Thursday of each month at 6:00 p.m.)
Regular MeetingSuperior, WI · April 20, 2023
Minutes
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE Minutes
April 20, 2023 Regular Meeting
The meeting was called to order by Councilor Ledin at 06:01 pm on April 20, 2023 in Government Center
Room 204.
1. ROLL CALL
PRESENT: Nick Ledin, Tylor Elm, Mark Johnson
VIRTUAL: Chief Alexander, Councilor Van Sickle, Director Cadotte, Maria Lockwood
CITY STAFF PRESENT: Mayor Paine, Chief Vollbrecht, Lieutenant Trone, Nikki Holmberg
OTHERS PRESENT: Darin Lind (Dukes Towing)
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
2.1. Public Safety Committee (Meeting held February 16, 2023)
MOTION by Johnson, second by Elm, and carried to approve the minutes from the February 16,
2023 meeting.
3. RECURRING BUSINESS
3.1. Police and Fire Department Updates
Chief Alexander of the Police Department briefly discussed a Wisconsin Law Enforcement
Management conference he attended with Captain Winterscheidt; they did a presentation on our
Pathways to Hope program which generated some interest from other communities across the
state. Last week there was a social media threat to local infrastructure, this led to Duluth PD taking
the suspect into custody.
Chief Vollbrecht of the Fire Department discussed some recent and upcoming trainings within the
Fire Department including Industrial Firefighter Training outside of the state. The Fire Department
will be doing training on 12th street in Superior within the next week which may cause minor road
shutdowns. They recently made a couple job offers to candidates which were accepted; these new
hires will start within a month or two.
4. OLD BUSINESS
4.1. Tow Fee Increase
Local tow companies request a rate increase on the towing contract due to inflation over the last
few years. The last increase was in 2012.
MOTION by Johnson, second by Ledin, and carried to increase the tow fee to $127.00 and the
daily storage fee to $37.00; will send to City Council.
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5. NEW BUSINESS
5.1. Ordinance Revision for Boat Launch
Ordinance revisions (section 30-5 and 90-21) were made to define camping to prohibit camping at
the boat launch.
MOTION by Johnson, second by Elm, and carried to approve the ordinance revision for boat
launch.
5.2. Discussion on Engine Braking – HWY 2 and 53
Councilor Van Sickle discussed the increased engine braking on HWY 2 and 53. She has received
complaints, as well as the Police Department receiving complaints through their online system.
Superior Police has increased enforcement which has led to an increase in tickets given. Signs were
recently moved to help with this, and Chief Alexander spoke with State Patrol to see how they can
help with enforcement. Additional ideas regarding communication to trucking companies were
given.
MOTION by Elm, second by Johnson, and carried to hold in committee.
6. ADJOURNMENT at 6:53 PM.
Submitted by Nikki Holmberg
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Agenda
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE Agenda
Thursday, April 20, 2023–6:00 PM
Government Center Room 204
Meeting ID
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Phone Numbers
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PIN: 176 568 657#
COMMITTEE MEMBERS: Nick Ledin, Tylor Elm, Mark Johnson
1 ROLL CALL
2 APPROVAL OF MINUTES
2.1 Public Safety Committee (Meeting held February 16, 2023)
3 RECURRING BUSINESS
3.1 Police and Fire Department Updates
4 OLD BUSINESS
4.1 Tow Fee Increase
5 NEW BUSINESS
5.1 Ordinance Revision for Boat Launch
5.2 Engine Braking -HWY 2 and 53
6 ADJOURNMENT
Notice is hereby given that a majority of the members of the Common Council may be present
at the meeting, and although this may constitute a quorum of the Common Council, the
Council will not take any action at this meeting.
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Superior Public Library.
This meeting may be called into closed session under WI State Statute Sections 19.85 (1) (c) which cite as follows: ‘Considering employment,
promotion, compensation or performance evaluation data for any public employee over which the governmental body has jurisdiction or
exercises responsibility’.
c: Mayor Jim Paine City Councilors
Chief Nick Alexander City Clerk’s Office
Chief Cam Vollbrecht Human Resources
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE Minutes
February 16, 2023 Regular Meeting
The meeting was called to order by Councilor Ledin at 06:00 pm on February 26, 2023 in Government
Center Room 204.
1. ROLL CALL
PRESENT: Nick Ledin, Tylor Elm, Mark Johnson
VIRTUAL: Mayor Paine (left mtg 7:15), Maria Lockwood (Superior Telegram)
CITY STAFF PRESENT: Chief Alexander, Chief Vollbrecht, Director Cadotte, Lieutenant Trone,
Nikki Holmberg, Katie Warren
OTHERS PRESENT: Darin Lind (Dukes Towing, left 6:35), Ray Ross (Budget Towing, left 6:35),
Maurice Bourdage (Nascar Towing, left 6:35)
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
2.1. Public Safety Committee (Meeting held January 19, 2023)
MOTION by by Elm, second by Johnson, and carried to approve the minutes from the January
19, 2023 meeting.
3. OLD BUSINESS
3.1. Discussion on Overnight Camping at Boat Launch
Director Cadotte and Chief Alexander will meet with City Attorney Prell to add/edit language to
current ordinance. They will present this next month to the Public Safety Committee.
4. NEW BUSINESS
4.1. Tow Fee Increase
Local tow companies request a rate increase on the towing contract due to inflation over the last few
years. The last increase was in 2012. Councilors would like more time to research prices in other
municipalities.
MOTION by Tylor Elm, second by Mark Johnson, and carried hold the tow fee increase until
next month so more research can be done.
4.2. Parking – Add No Parking Odd Side – N 11th St from Catlin Ave East to Dead End
MOTION by Mark Johnson, second by Tylor Elm, and carried to add no parking odd side – N
11th St from Catlin Ave East to Dead End
4.3. Recommendation from Parks and Rec Commission regarding the Leash Law
Director Cadotte discussed some recommendations the Parks and Rec Commission made
pertaining to the recent Leash Law edits. There was further discussion on editing a few of the
recommendations made by Parks and Rec.
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MOTION by Mark Johnson, second by Tylor Elm, to approve the Ordinance.
MOTION by Mark Johnson, second by Tylor Elm, to amend the approval and strike out WI
Point under Off Leash Areas, Under Restraint #1 change to “Within the confines of the
owner’s property, by a fence, leash, tie out line, electric fence, or effective owner’s
command, language for #3 Under Restraint remains “Within a vehicle that is sufficiently
enclosed so as to prevent the animal from exiting the vehicle”.
MOTION by Mark Johnson, second by Tylor Elm, and approved edits to send to City Council.
4.4. Fire Department Solar Project
Chief Vollbrecht is requesting approval for the Solar Project at Headquarters, to be completed
by Cedar Creek Energy. The department received 5 bids. It is estimated this project would save
the City of Superior $16,293.00 per year in electricity costs.
MOTION by Mark Johnson, second by Tylor Elm, to approve the Solar Project to be completed
by Cedar Creek Energy.
5. RECURRING BUSINESS
5.1. Police and Fire Department Updates
Chief Alexander of the Police Department states the Citizens Academy will start up again in the Fall of
2023. The Police Department placed a new fleet order last year which was canceled due to production
issues; there is possibility the department will receive 7 new fleet sometime in 2023. Pathways to Hope
program is doing well; they are seeing an increase in the number of people in the program.
Chief Vollbrecht of the Fire Department talked about the two recent fires in our community. He also
talked about upcoming trainings the department is doing. The Fire Department will be visiting Superior
Middle School to teach CPR and AED use to students. They are now running the electric F150 for
medical calls.
6. ADJOURNMENT at 7:40 PM.
Submitted by Nikki Holmberg
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Sec. 30-5. City boat ramp use fees.
(a) No person shall use the following city boat ramp facilities without paying the applicable
fee and such other landing charges as designated and posted with appropriate notices:
(1) Arrowhead Pier;
(2) Barker's Island;
(3) Billings Park; and
(4) Loons Foot Landing.
(b) For a Wisconsin resident desiring to pay on an annual basis, the fee shall be $25.00. For an
out of state resident desiring to pay on an annual basis, the fee shall be $30.00. The annual
fee for city residents 65 years of age and over and for military/veterans shall be $20.00.
The annual fee for nonresidents 65 years of age and over and for nonresident
military/veterans shall be $25.00. The daily fee shall be $5.00 regardless of residency, age
or military/veteran status. A hanging permit issued for persons paying on an annual basis
must be displayed on the rear view mirror each time the boat is launched and the vehicle
is parked at the launch site. The daily permit must be displayed (print side up) on the
dashboard of the vehicle, visible to others and the date and license plate number of the
vehicle must be filled in on the envelope. Proper identification is required when
purchasing annual permits.
(c) Camping prohibited. Lawful use of the city boat ramp facilities does not include
camping.
Camping is defined as
(1) Occupying, pitching or otherwise using a tent or temporary structure other than
duck blinds;
(2) Sleeping; or
(3) Occupying the living or sleeping quarters of any trailer, camper, van, truck or
recreation vehicle.
Exception: Unoccupied vehicle with a boat trailer and a current daily or annual launch pass
may be in the boat ramp parking lot(s) overnight.
(d) Any person who violates this section shall be subject to the general penalties provided
in section 1-15.
(ed) The owner of a vehicle involved in a violation of the provisions from which this chapter
was derived shall be liable for the violation. It shall be no defense to a violation of the
provisions from which this chapter was derived that the owner was not operating the
vehicle at the time of violation.
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(fe) Funds collected from the imposition of these fees shall be recorded in a separate fund to
be maintained by the city, and the funds shall be utilized for the maintenance and
development of city boat launching facilities and adjunct and/or related facilities.
(gf) The parks, and recreation, and forestry director administrator shall create and supervise
the system for collection of fees, issuance of citations, and all other items related to
enforcement of the provisions from which this section was derived.
(Code 1971, § 9-5; Ord. No. O03-3446, § 1, 12-2-2003; Ord. No. O08-3647, § 1, 1-22-2008; Ord.
No. O17-4012, § 1, 6-20-2017; Ord. No. O18-4088, § 1, 9-14-2018)
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PART II - CODE OF ORDINANCES
Chapter 90 - PARKS, RECREATION AND FORESTRY
ARTICLE II. SPECIFIC RECREATIONAL AREAS
ARTICLE II. SPECIFIC RECREATIONAL AREAS
DIVISION 1. GENERALLY
Sec. 90-21. Loitering in city parks.
Except for the Superior Skate Park, which shall close at 10:00 p.m., no person, besides
authorized employees of the city parks, recreation and forestry department or the police
department shall stand, sit, loiter in or occupy any city park area including parking lots,
between the hours of 10:30 p.m. and 5:30 a.m. This section shall not apply in the following
areas:
(1) Club house and parking area for Nemadji Municipal Golf Course.
(2) Wisconsin Point.
(Ord. No. O17-4024, § 1, 8-15-2017)
Secs. 90-22—90-45. Reserved.
DIVISION 2. BARKER'S ISLAND
Sec. 90-46. Watercraft regulations.
(a) Reckless operation of a watercraft. No person shall operate a watercraft in a reckless or
grossly negligent manner to endanger persons or property.
(b) Reasonable and prudent speed. No person shall operate a motorboat at a speed greater
than is reasonable and prudent under the conditions and having regard for the actual and
potential hazards then existing. The speed of a motorboat shall be so controlled as to
avoid collisions or near collisions with any object in or on the water or with any person,
boat or any conveyance in or on the water.
(c) Maximum speeds. No person shall operate a motor operated watercraft on the following
described area at a speed in excess of five miles per hour or at a speed which results in
more than a minimum wake, whichever is less:
All that area bounded as follows: Beginning at the point which is the intersection of the
extended centerline of M Street, now Seventh Avenue East, with the northeasterly line of
the right-of-way of the Northern Pacific Railway Company; thence northeasterly on the
centerline of said M Street, now Seventh Avenue East, to the intersection of the
southwesterly shoreline of Barker's Island; thence easterly along said shore line of Barker's
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Island to its intersection with the westerly right-of-way line of Nineteenth Avenue East;
thence southwesterly on said right-of-way line to its intersection with the northeast line of
the right-of-way of the Northern Pacific Railway Company; thence northwesterly along said
right-of-way line to the place of beginning.
(d) Minimum wake defined. For the purpose of this section, a minimum wake is the wave
moving out from a watercraft and trailing behind it in a widening "V" of insufficient size to
affect other watercraft or the shoreline.
(e) Posting. The department of parks, recreation and forestry shall place signs in such areas as
are covered by maximum speeds.
(Ord. No. O17-4024, § 1, 8-15-2017)
Cross reference(s)—Boats, docks and waterways, ch. 30.
Sec. 90-47. Reserved.
Editor's note(s)—Ord. No. O06-3598, § 1, adopted August 15, 2006, repealed § 90-47, which
pertained to declaration as bird sanctuary. See also the Code Comparative Table.
Sec. 90-48. Loitering and camping prohibited.
(a) Loitering. Between the hours of 10:30 p.m. and 5:30 a.m., no one other than authorized
city employees shall stand, walk, loiter in or occupy that area of Barker's Island described
as follows:
(1) Commencing at a point on the centerline of the causeway road and the center of
Barker's Island bridge, thence northeasterly a distance of 300 feet to the place of
beginning; thence continuing northeasterly a distance of 425 feet to the easterly
shoreline of Barker's Island; thence in a southeasterly direction along the easterly
shoreline a distance of 1,690.0 feet to a point; thence southwesterly at right angles a
distance of 580 feet to the westerly shore line of Barker's Island (which line lies on the
north end of the hotel parking lot); thence in a northwesterly direction along the
westerly shoreline a distance of 1,760.0 feet more or less to the point of beginning.
(2) Provided, however, that this section shall not prohibit any person from walking, riding
or driving over the paved public roadway running through the above-described area.
(b) Camping. No person shall camp on Barker's Island without the written approval of the
parks, recreation and forestry director. For the purpose of this subsection camping shall
have the meaning set forth in section 90-76 except that the term recreation vehicle shall
not be interpreted as including any boat which is occupying a slip in the Barker's Island
Marina. The above provisions notwithstanding, persons may camp on the Barker's Island
Marina parking lot upon the prior written approval of the marina manager.
(Ord. No. O17-4024, § 1, 8-15-2017)
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Sec. 90-49. Off-road vehicles prohibited.
(a) No person shall operate any motor vehicle upon any portion of Barker's Island except on
paved roadways and paved parking lots. For purpose of this section, the term motor
vehicle means any vehicle which is self-propelled, including off-road vehicles and
snowmobiles, ATVs, UTVs, dirt bikes and mopeds.
(b) This section shall not apply to equipment owned by the city or to vehicles operating with
the specific written approval of the parks, recreation and forestry director.
(Ord. No. O17-4024, § 1, 8-15-2017)
Sec. 90-50. Swimming on Barker's Island.
(a) Swimming only in designated swimming area. Swimming on or near the area of Barker's
Island shall be allowed only at that designated swimming area on the marina side. The
designated swimming area will be clearly marked as such.
(b) Signage. The parks, recreation and forestry department is directed and authorized to
procure, erect and maintain appropriate signage, buoys and/or markers which shall
designate the appropriate swimming area, as well as, signage, buoys and/or markers which
will alert the public to dangerous water conditions.
(Ord. No. O17-4024, § 1, 8-15-2017)
Sec. 90-51. Penalties.
Penalties for violation of this section shall be in accordance with section 1-14.
(Ord. No. O17-4024, § 1, 8-15-2017)
Secs. 90-52—90-73. Reserved.
DIVISION 3. WISCONSIN POINT
Sec. 90-74. Wisconsin Point defined.
For the purpose of this division, Wisconsin Point is defined as that parcel of land above
water level bounded by: the east line of Section 34, Township 49, Range 13 west, northwesterly
to the mouth of the St. Louis River (otherwise known as the Superior Entry) and includes all
portions of the peninsula or sand spit on both sides of the existing roadway (known as
Peninsula Avenue) between Allouez Bay, Lake Superior and all other municipally owned parcels
abutting Lake Superior (including docks, piers and retaining walls) and including parcels #
118110701200, 118110701300 [owned by the Board of Regents of State Universities] and
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parcels # 118110701100 and 118110700200 [owned by Douglas County]. No person shall
engage in the construction of any structure for use industrially, commercially or as a residential
dwelling.
(Ord. No. O17-4024, § 1, 8-15-2017)
Sec. 90-75. Motor vehicles restricted.
(a) No person shall operate any motor vehicle (including snowmobiles ATVs, UTVs, dirt bikes
and mopeds) upon any portion of Wisconsin Point, except on paved or improved
roadways, trails designated by posted signs, or parking areas designated by signs as open
for vehicular parking.
(b) This section shall not apply to equipment owned by the city engaged in authorized public
projects.
(c) Any persons, firm or corporation violating any provision of this section shall, upon
conviction, forfeit a fine of not less than $100.00 nor more than $500.00 together with the
costs of prosecution or, in default of payment of such fine and costs of prosecution, shall
be imprisoned in the county jail until payment of the forfeiture and costs of prosecution,
but not to exceed 60 days.
(Ord. No. O17-4024, § 1, 8-15-2017)
Sec. 90-76. Camping.
(a) Defined. The following words, terms and phrases, when used in this section, shall have
the meanings ascribed to them in this subsection, except where the context clearly indicates a
different meaning:
Camping means:
(1) Occupying, pitching or otherwise using a tent or temporary structure other than duck
blinds;
(2) Sleeping; or
(3) Occupying the living or sleeping quarters of any trailer, camper, van, truck or
recreation vehicle.
(b) Prohibited. No person shall camp on Wisconsin Point between the hours of 10:00 p.m. and
4:00 a.m. except during the spring smelt run season as such season is defined by the parks,
recreation and forestry department.
(Ord. No. O17-4024, § 1, 8-15-2017)
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Sec. 90-77. Destruction of natural features prohibited.
No person shall intentionally cut, carve, saw, transplant or remove any tree or attach any
rope, wire, nails, advertising posters or other contrivance to any tree on Wisconsin Point. No
person shall intentionally remove, cut, transplant or otherwise damage any plant life on
Wisconsin Point. No person shall start any fire or use any combustible material in such manner
as to damage or threaten plant life. No person shall start a bonfire, cooking fire or camp fire
closer than ten feet from the nearest plant life. No person shall start a bonfire, cooking fire or
camp fire on the Allouez Bay side of Wisconsin Point Road.
(Ord. No. O17-4024, § 1, 8-15-2017)
Sec. 90-78. Removal of sand.
No person shall intentionally remove sand from Wisconsin Point, except as authorized in
advance by the director of parks, recreation and forestry as part of an approved city project.
(Ord. No. O17-4024, § 1, 8-15-2017)
Sec. 90-79. Destruction of signs, barriers and public improvements.
Any person who shall intentionally destroy, break, remove, throw down, paint over, shoot
at or damage any public sign or plaque, any barrier, post, fence or barricade, garbage
receptacles, latrines or any public structure or improvements whatsoever on Wisconsin Point
shall be guilty of an offense under this section.
(Ord. No. O17-4024, § 1, 8-15-2017)
Sec. 90-80. Littering.
It shall be unlawful for any person to place, throw, leave, or permit to remain, any rubbish,
garbage, paper, cans, wastes of any sort, boxes, food scraps, plastic, foil or other debris at any
location on Wisconsin Point except in such garbage receptacles as are placed there by the city
for public use.
(Ord. No. O17-4024, § 1, 8-15-2017)
Sec. 90-81. Posting.
The parks, recreation and forestry department shall post signs at appropriate locations
informing the public of the provisions of this division.
(Ord. No. O17-4024, § 1, 8-15-2017)
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Sec. 90-82. Glass beverage containers prohibited.
It shall be illegal for any person to transport any glass beverage container onto Wisconsin
Point or to possess any glass beverage container while on Wisconsin Point. The provisions of
this section shall not apply to thermos jugs, canteens and other such containers which are
generally sold empty.
(Ord. No. O17-4024, § 1, 8-15-2017)
Sec. 90-83. Access and parking.
(a) Motor vehicles. Motor vehicle traffic and parking is prohibited between the hours of 11:00
p.m. and 4:00 a.m. on that portion of Wisconsin Point Road, including any parking areas,
beyond Lot #1, and also all of Moccasin Mike Road and Lakeshore Drive, except during the
spring melt run season as such season is defined by the parks, recreation and forestry
department. This section does not apply to property owners along Wisconsin Point Road,
Moccasin Mike Road and Lakeshore Drive.
(b) Pedestrians. Pedestrian traffic is permitted at all times on Wisconsin Point Road, Moccasin
Mike Road, Lakeshore Drive and Wisconsin Point.
(c) Parking. On all of Wisconsin Point Road, parking is permitted only in designated parking
areas/lots. Parking on either side of Wisconsin Point Road is prohibited.
(Ord. No. O17-4024, § 1, 8-15-2017; Ord. No. O19-4160, § 1, 8-6-2019)
Sec. 90-84. Penalties.
Penalties for violation of this section shall be in accordance with sections 1-14 and 1-15.
(Ord. No. O17-4024, § 1, 8-15-2017)
Sec. 90-85. Wisconsin Point Committee.
Composition. The Wisconsin Point Committee shall consist of one member appointed by
each of the following entities: Superior City Council—one member and one alternate; Douglas
County Board of Supervisors—one member and one alternate, Wisconsin Department of
Natural Resources; Lake Superior National Estuarine Research Reserve; University of Wisconsin-
Superior; and Fond du Lac Band of Lake Superior Chippewa. In addition, one citizen
representative shall be appointed by the mayor for a three-year term.
Duties. The Wisconsin Point Committee will serve as the primary entity overseeing
implementation of the Wisconsin Point Area Management Plan and responsible for
implementation of management plan directives, policy development and monitoring. The
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Wisconsin Point Committee shall have advisory powers only and may make recommendations
to the common council as necessary.
(Ord. No. O17-4032, § 1, 10-3-2017; Ord. No. O17-4040, § 1, 11-7-2017)
Editor's note(s)—Ord. Nos. O17-4032 and O17-4040 set out provisions intended for use as § 90-
84. To avoid duplication of section numbers, and at the editor's discretion, these
provisions have been included as § 90-85.
Secs. 90-86—90-109. Reserved.
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Holmberg, Nicole
From: Holmberg, Nicole
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2023 3:18 PM
To: Holmberg, Nicole
Subject: FW: Your Information Has Been Submitted
From: Van Sickle, Jenny <VanSicklej@ci.superior.wi.us>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2023 3:16 PM
To: Ledin, Nick <ledinn@ci.superior.wi.us>
Cc: Trone, Thor <tronet@ci.superior.wi.us>
Subject: Fwd: Your Information Has Been Submitted
Chair Ledin
Can we please add this report to the next public safety agenda
How did we respond to this complaint— how are we continually responding? How many citations and warnings ect
Same goes for freight traffic traveling in the right hand lane.
Can always add all of the digital reports, your call.
Thank you!
Jenny
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