City Council Regular Meeting
Regular MeetingTallmadge, OH · December 8, 2022
Minutes
COUNCIL MEETING
Council Chambers @ 7:00 p.m. December 8, 2022
1. CALL TO ORDER. President of Council Loughry called the Council meeting of Thursday,
December 8, 2022, to order at 7:00 p.m.
2. Opening Prayer & Pledge of Allegiance:
Prayer: Pastor Jim Case, Tallmadge Lutheran Church.
Pledge of Allegiance: Violet Vacha, 5th Grade Student at Tallmadge Elementary School.
3. Roll Call: Mrs. Allman, Mr. Bollas, Mr. Bozic, Mrs. Gutman, Mrs. Kilway, Mr. Loughry, Mr. Sisak –
present.
3.A. Swearing in of: Joshua Goldner – Full Time Firefighter/Paramedic
Nicholas Sansom – Battalion Chief/Firefighter/Paramedic
John Underwood – Fire Chief
Mayor: It is my pleasure to be swearing-in Joshua Goldner as a Full Time Firefighter/Paramedic
along with Nicholas Sansom as Battalion Chief/Firefighter/Paramedic and John Underwood as the
new Tallmadge Fire Chief. Congratulations to all of you.
4. Correcting and Adopting the Previous Meeting Minutes:
11-10-22 Council Meeting Minutes
Mr. Sisak moved to approve the 11-10-22 Council meeting minutes. Seconded Mrs. Kilway. Roll
Call: Mr. Bollas, Mr. Bozic, Mrs. Gutman, Mrs. Kilway, Mr. Loughry, Mr. Sisak, Mrs. Allman –
unanimous. The 11-10-22 Council meeting minutes were adopted by a vote of 7-0.
5. Financial Reports:
• Fire & EMS Fund Transfer in the amount of $125,000, Street Maintenance & Repair
Fund in the amount of $200,000, and the General Fund in the amount of $250,000
to Council on 12-1-22.
• Appropriation Report, Fund Report and Revenue Report for the period ending 11-
30-22 to Council on 12-5-22.
• November Financial Reports to Council on 12-5-22.
• Tallmadge Recreation Center Profit and Loss Report for the period ending 11-30-
22
to Council on 12-5-22.
• Income Tax Comparisons for the period ending 11-30-22 to Council on 12-5-22.
• Consolidated Investment Portfolio for the period ending 11-30-22 to Council on
12-5-22.
• Income Tax by Source Report for the month of November to Council on 12-5-22.
• Revenue Comparisons for Major Funds for the period ending 11-30-22 to Council
on 12-5-22.
Mr. Sisak moved to accept the financial reports submitted by Dir. of Finance Gilbride. Seconded
Mrs. Kilway. Roll Call: Mr. Bozic, Mrs. Gutman, Mrs. Kilway, Mr. Loughry, Mr. Sisak, Mrs. Allman,
Mr. Bollas – unanimous. The Financial Reports submitted by Dir. of Finance Gilbride were
accepted by a vote of 7-0.
6. Public Hearings:
i. 3rd Readings of Ordinances and Resolutions
Ord. 2022-78
Amended~Exhibit Amended 11-10
Amended – Exhibit Amended 12-8
FINANCE Adopting a budget for various funds of the City of Tallmadge,
P.H. ON 12-8-22 Ohio, for current expenses and other expenditures during fiscal
@ 7:01 P.M. year ending December 31, 2023, appropriating the necessary
funds for the administration thereof, authorizing transfers
between funds and providing for immediate enactment.
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The ordinance was read into the record.
Mr. Sisak: It is now 7:18 p.m. and I call the public hearing for Ord. 2022-78 open.
Is there anyone who would like to speak in favor of Ord. 2022-78? Hearing none; is there anyone
who would like to speak against Ord. 2022-78? Hearing none, second time; is there anyone who
would like to speak in favor of Ord. 2022-78? Hearing none, anyone wishing to speak against
Ord. 2022-78? Hearing none, third and final time; is there anyone who would like to speak in
favor of or against Ord. 2022-78? Hearing none, it is now 7:21 p.m. and I call the public hearing
closed for Ord. 2022-78.
Pres. of Council: We have just concluded the public hearing on the budget and at this time we
will open the Finance Committee.
Mr. Sisak: I call the Finance Committee to order. It has been amended twice. Is there any
discussion?
Mayor: First of all, I want to thank the committee that has worked on this. We started working on
the budget on July 1st of this year. We met with all of the Department Heads multiple times. With
the help of Jill Stritch and Mollie putting this budget together and all of the Department Heads, I
think we finally came up with a very good budget. Council did make the two amendments to add a
little bit more money for the concrete and then $35,000 was the second amendment for the Police
Department equipment. We are requesting a third amendment that actually removes some of the
appropriation. We want to reduce the appropriation of $584,397.24 and that was for the East
Avenue Project because that was already encumbered before, and I think the Finance Director
caught that this week and so thank you Mollie.
We have had the work sessions with Council, and we have had this for three readings, and it is
ready to go. It does not include some of the ARPA Funds that are still available and I know Mr.
Sisak, we had talked about possibly amending it to add that money, but I think the Finance Director
said to wait until the beginning of the year and you could have your committee meet again to talk
about that.
Dir. of Finance: We had a sidebar conversation.
Mr. Sisak: So, we reduced the East Avenue Proj33ect by . . .
Dir. of Finance: We actually just removed it. It requires no appropriation. It goes down to zero.
That is the carry-over appropriation from the original contract, and we did not need to appropriate
additional money and because it was so large, I was uncomfortable leaving it in there for something
that we didn’t need and so I felt like we should go ahead and take that out.
Mr. Sisak: While we are talking about cutting; let’s talk about adding. What Mrs. Gilbride and I
had spoke about recently was with the work and the monies of the ARPA Fund monies that we are
going to be spending at the Howe Rd. Park. It would include taking out the one pavilion, restrooms,
I think for the dog park location if I’m not mistaken, and to build a new pavilion with functioning
restrooms it would be about $500,000 and that again would be coming out of ARPA Funds. So
that would make that project kind of whole I would say instead of doing part of it and not having
facilities and then maybe revisiting it again at the beginning of the year or maybe later in the year
would give the Service Director a leg up if you will, to get started on the entirety of that project at
Howe Road. Ms. Gilbride, do you have anything to add?
Dir. of Finance: Yes. We were discussing, and as I discussed with Mr. Sisak, and the Mayor was
on board, but we kind of had a side conversation and we are making a lot of improvements to that
park and we know that the bathrooms need rebuilt and we kind of felt like we would hate to have
all of these improvements and having people come into the park and then have these poor restroom
facilities. We have the ARPA Funds available and it just made sense if we could, since we already
know we have the dog park ready to go, if we could do that as a comprehensive project in the park
and we could get it all done sooner and hopefully finish it all at the same time and so when we are
advertising the dog park people are also coming to a nice restroom facility and have the pavilions
and those kind of things. So, I had just suggested that if Council was agreeable that we could add
back into the budget so that we can make that project in that park up to par.
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Mr. Sisak: Then how much money would be left over in the ARPA Funds?
Dir. of Finance: That would leave us a balance of about $481,000 still remaining for additional
projects and obviously that would count then anything that would be left from finishing some of the
current projects. We have already had a few come in under budget that have kind of gotten thrown
back into the pot. So, a lot of the projects we initially approved, you are seeing that put back into
the budget because we were not either able to bid them or complete them this year and so it is
$481,000 with the potential to be more if we come in under budget on those other programs.
Mrs. Kilway: So, just for clarification then, we would be amending the budget to add $500,000
into the Park Maintenance under the ARPA Funds and so it would bring that up to $945,632 I
believe for Park Maintenance.
Dir. of Finance: Yes.
Mr. Bozic: Can you clarify what that number was again? I guess my question would be for that
Park Maintenance account, the new number would be what? Because as it stands now on the last
amendment it was $445,000?
Dir. of Finance: Correct, so it would be $945,000.
Mr. Bozic: Remind me again, the $445,000 as it stands now in Park Maintenance is already
earmarked for Howe Road and other parks?
Dir. of Finance: Yes, so there are three portions to that. We approved a pavilion at Lions Park,
and the Dog Park is the majority and it and it is $257,310 so we would really be adding another
$500,000 and so Howe Road would be about $750,000 of the appropriation and then we still have
about $93,800 of work to do for the Lions tennis and pickle ball courts at the beginning of the year.
Mr. Bozic: Then, where does that put us as far as being completed at Howe Road? I know there
were several stages, and it was kind of . . . I just recall there being some updates to the ball field
and maybe some stuff at the back end of the park. There was a walking trail and maybe a small,
not a BMX track, but a pump track. So, I know there were some other areas in there.
Dir. of Pub. Service: You will be over half-way done with this improvement.
Mrs. Kilway: I move to amend Ord. 2022-78 to add $500,000 into the Park Maintenance of the
ARPA Funds so it would be under Account 2019 Account 305 is that correct in order to do the
maintenance on the restrooms and so forth as discussed.
Dir. of Law: And as proposed in your Exhibit Amended 12-8-22.
Mrs. Kilway: Yes. Thank you. Seconded Mr. Loughry.
Mr. Bollas: Just in summation, in terms of the ARPA Projects, just so we are all on the same page,
we have the Lions Pavilion, the dog park, the tennis courts, the Fire & Police drones . . .
Mr. Loughry: I thought there were sidewalks on Munroe.
Dir. of Finance: There are sidewalks on Munroe in here that got carried over. We have already
ordered, which you did not see carried forward, an updated sign for the Circle that we were able to
encumber that takes care of that this year so that is taken care of. The majority of the drones for
the Police and Fire have been taken care of. There were just some minor items that needed to be
carried forward into next year’s budget. The lights on Southeast and those are also encumbered,
and they are on order.
Mr. Bollas: So, the items you mentioned were able to be taken care of this year?
Dir. of Finance: Yes, there were several items that were able to be taken care of this year.
Mr. Bozic: I just want to clarify so this next vote that we are going to make is just on the specific
amendment of the $500,000 additional to Park Maintenance or is it the full approval of the budget
as it stands?
Mr. Bozic: OK, so if we have other items that we need to bring up, do it now or wait until after the
Vote?
Mr. Sisak: Wait until after. Is there anything else on those two items?
Roll Call: Mrs. Gutman, Mrs. Kilway, Mr. Loughry, Mr. Sisak, Mrs. Allman, Mr. Bollas, Mr. Bozic –
unanimous. Ord. 2022-78 is amended by a vote of 7-0.
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Mr. Sisak: OK, so if I can get a motion to adopt the amended Ord. 2022-78.
Mrs. Kilway: I move for the adoption of Ord. 2022-78 according to the amendment on 12-8-22.
Seconded Mrs. Allman.
Mr. Bozic: Mr. Chair, I have an item that I would like to make an amendment to the budget. In
light of some questions that I had proposed to the Administration in regard to funding of or I should
say cost analysis of what the pay rate would be for a Lieutenant and Captain within the Police
Department; I think those numbers have kind of weighed out in a way that is contrary to what we
were originally led to believe. So, I will kind of just give you a quick synopsis of this, but basically
as it would stand as a new Lieutenant hourly rate for 2023 would be $50.76 and then in 2024 it
would be $54.28. The Captain position in 2023 is $51.23 and in 2024 it is $52.76. Now that is . . .
those two figures I factored, which I assume is happening, is a 3% increase for those that are
outside of the CVA.
Mayor: It is the average of all five unions.
Dir. of Finance: It is . . . they actually get a flat increase of the target of the pay band and so we
figure out the target of the pay band that they are in and then they get the average of the union
contracts and this year it is about 2.8 something.
Mr. Bozic: So, my numbers should be probably actually a little low because typically they are not
at the target; they are below the target.
Dir. of Finance: They are actually all above the target.
Mr. Bozic: It is pretty close. So, my question I guess, or matter of discussion would be we were
told that the Lieutenant position won’t be filled because it is a financial burden to the City if that
individual were to take that position because they would be making more than the Captain or the
Chief.
Mayor: That is only halfway true Adam, and you know that. So, when you say that it is some
financial issue because you are not looking at the overtime of it. So, let’s take away the financial
side of the equation. The management of the style that this administration is requesting Council of
is the two Captains positions and that is for the better management of the Police Department and
this is what the Chief is requesting and asking for and that is what the administration is going for
so if you are looking at amending the budget to take away funds out of the budget, the budget is
designed for the Captain and that is what this administration is going after.
Mr. Bozic: Well, that is exactly what I am looking to do Mayor is to make a motion to withdraw the
funds within that line item for the Captain position for the year 2023.
Mayor: Then how would you fund the Lieutenant that you would like to have? It’s not in the budget.
Mr. Bozic: Right.
Mayor: Oh, then we will take away all of the management that we all know we need . . .
Mr. Bozic: My question to you Mayor would be since our Captain left, our first Captain, DiMenna
left, the Administration has sat not filling a Captain’s position for 9 months or maybe longer. Filled
it and then decided oh wait, let’s now have 2 Captain positions when you could have easily had
filled the Lieutenant position and had that, like you said, that proper management structure at the
top.
Mayor: Again, with all due respect, Administration administrates; Council legislates. You can
make the motion to pull the money out and see what your colleagues call the question.
Mr. Bozic: That’s fine. I would like to make that motion.
Dir. of Law: If I might just interject, I believe there was already just as a point of order, a motion
and second to the initial motion to adopt the amended legislation.
Mr. Sisak: Yeah, and there was discussion.
Pres. of Council: And then we went into discussion.
Mr. Bozic: Which is why I asked the question at what point can I bring up another amendment and
you said after those two were closed.
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Mr. Bollas: Thank you. In the working copy from October 2022, in the noters for salaries and
wages under personnel, it is notated that 2 buyouts and 1 new Captain. So, just help me
understand the breakdown of what this amendment would be in terms of dollars because right now
I am only looking at a lump sum of you know the entire 2023 budget. So, what would this be
financially?
Mayor: If he makes a motion to withdraw or ask him what he wants to withdraw. How many dollars
do you want to take . . .
Mr. Sisak: Excuse me, I think he is Mayor.
Mr. Bollas: No, I guess my question was more for the floor just to have discussion around . . .
Mr. Sisak: I think Adam has to put a dollar amount to what he wants to . . .
Mayor: To defund the Police.
Mr. Bozic: I’m not in the position that you were in to actually give them the proper management
sir, so you can phrase it however you would like, but I think the union has already stated they would
rather have a Lieutenant position. I think the Chief of Police is in a spot right now that of course he
is going to say he wants more help; you refused to give him any help for 9+ months. So, sure I will
take anything you want to give me and honestly you could . . . Dir. of Public Safety, you can roll
your eyes all you want, but you have been involved in the last three contracts; am I wrong, for the
Lieutenant and Sergeant positions and then we hear a wave of discussion that you are asking the
union to renegotiate that contract because they are getting paid too much. Sir, you signed the
contract. That is on you three times in a row. That has nothing to do with these guys. These guys
are asking for the position to be filled. So, it is your job to fill those positions. To say that you are
not going to fill a position because it is just what we want to do is a gross mismanagement of our
public safety forces.
Mayor: I totally disagree with you Adam. So, with that . . . is there a motion?
Pres. of Council: We have a motion; I’m not sure if we have a second on the motion.
Mrs. Kilway: We have a second.
Pres. of Council: Now we are in discussion on that amendment.
Mrs. Kilway: No, not on the amendment.
Mr. Sisak: It is just discussion and how it is amended for today. Does anyone else have anything?
Chief Williams: Ron Williams, Chief of Police. As the Chief of Police, I am charged with managing
the Police Department and making these decisions. In the situation that I am in today, I am asking
you for 2 Captains. I appreciate the support that we received from Council up to this point and I
am asking you for that again. I want to say, the Union President, Pat Fairhurst is here tonight, and
I want to say that I have absolute admiration and respect and appreciation for the people who do
the work at the Police Department. It has absolutely nothing to do with that whatsoever. I believe
that the most critical need of the Police Department at this time is 2 Captains and I am asking you
for support on that matter. I understand that there is going to be opposition and I hope that we are
able to work through that.
I want to share with you that we focused this whole conversation on one paragraph in about 100
pages of two contracts and I want to talk to you about Article 3, Management Rights in the Police
contract. It is actually in both contracts. The Patrol Officers and the Sergeant/Lieutenant. With
undermanagement rights, the contract, so the agreement between both parties, Item E. gives
management the right to determine the work assignments of its employees. Item F gives
management the right to determine basis for selection, retention and promotion of employees to or
for positions that are not in the bargaining unit established by this agreement. And then 3.02 in the
second half of the same article, pardon me for reading, but if I don’t it will be wrong. “In addition,
the union agrees that all of the functions, rights, powers, responsibilities and authorities of the
employer in regard to the operation of its business and the direction of its work force, which the
employer has not specifically abridged, deleted, granted or modified by express or specific written
provisions of this agreement are and shall remain exclusively those of the employer. So, based on
these on the agreement between the Union and the City, I am asking for your support on this issue
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Chief Williams (Cont’d.) and ask that you please approve 2 Captains for the Police Department.
Thank you.
Mr. Bozic: If it were up to you today, don’t mind you of any sort of funding restrictions or anything
of that nature, a structure of Chief, Captain, Lieutenant or a structure of Chief and two Captains?
Which would you rather see for the future of the Tallmadge Police Department?
Chief Williams: Well, you are asking me a question if money doesn’t matter and just like in your
business, money does matter. You can’t do that. You can’t take money away and make everything
OK. You can’t do that either.
Mr. Bozic: But I am simply putting it in that term because I just went over the fact that the hourly
rate . . .
Chief Williams: I would like to question some of your fact’s sir. Would you like me to read the
numbers to you?
Mr. Bozic: No, I got the facts directly from the Administration and from another individual that this
would affect. So those numbers are true and accurate and so I will ask again, which would you
rather prefer to see for the future of the Tallmadge Police Department?
Chief Williams: As the Police Chief, I have stood here tonight before City Council and asked you
for 2 Captains and that is what I am asking for.
Mayor: Chief Williams, so what is the timeframe when there is a vacancy; how long does it take
you to post it, have a test, do the backgrounds and do everything . . . how many months has it been
taking us? Was there an open test to be able to give a Captain when Frank DiMenna left?
Chief Williams: Well, the first answer sir is that it depends, but the second answer; we are missing
a lot of contexts here. We had a terrible situation with 2 Sergeants and that also was a factor. We
were, let’s use the word, dysfunctional, for a long period of time because we had problems within
management that we are working hard to resolve.
So, back to your first question. We have greatly improved in the area. We post a job, and they
have a week and then we have to do testing. It takes time and you have to work with the company
to create the test . . . well, I guess we may be doing it differently now, but in my history of doing
this, you have to create a test, you have to create an assessment center, you have to schedule
those things. This is not something that we can whip together in a month. It just doesn’t happen.
Mayor: The point of the question is we were not grossly neglecting hiring management for the
Tallmadge Police Department because the process to do it takes a long time to get it done.
Chief Williams: That is correct sir.
Mayor: The previous Captain retired abruptly and to get the test and everything going, we hired
as quick as we could and there was no delay because of mismanagement of the Police Department.
Chief Williams: I agree with your statement.
Mr. Bollas: If the organizational structure were . . . if we wanted to change it in the future; what
would that process look like if you were going to add that, if that position was to be added back in?
Mayor: What position?
Mr. Bollas: The Lieutenant position.
Mayor: It is in the Union contract.
Mr. Bollas: Procedurally, but just so I understand to update the Organizational Chart; what would
the process be?
Mayor: Administration would make that change.
Mr. Bollas: So, at that point, Council is not involved in any way for the Organizational Chart
update?
Mayor: That is correct.
Mr. Bozic: Which again thank you Mr. Bollas. I think that again it goes back to my point of saying
if that is up to the organization or the administration to survey whether or not that individual is
needed within the organization, you could have easily promoted a Lieutenant as someone from the
Police Department to Lieutenant the day that DiMenna had left, maybe not the day, but you
understand what I am saying.
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Mayor: No, I don’t.
Mr. Bozic: You could have done it within a shortened period of time. You could have given a test
and it would have been filled and you chose not to.
Mr. Sisak: OK, anyone else. We have a motion and . . .
Mayor: You have a motion and a second to adopt the amended ordinance.
Mr. Sisak: Adam motioned and who seconded?
Mayor: There was no . . . Adam did not . . . so you can take a vote or if you have a question on
what the current motion or withdraw that motion to entertain the new motion.
Mr. Bollas: Going back to procedure, if I had a question on the ordinance but not pertaining to this
topic, you are stating that we go through this amendment specifically first and then I would have to
introduce a new topic, or could I bring up . . .
Mr. Sisak: As long as it is related to the budget.
Dir. of Law: Right now, the motion before you is the vote on the budget to approve the budget as
you already amended it.
Mr. Bozic: Which was the purpose of my question when I said, do we vote . . . if I wanted to make
a change . . .
Dir. of Law: There could have been another motion in between but the motion that was made was
the motion to adopt the budget.
Mr. Bozic: But that was my question before we did that was . . .
Dir. of Law: And before you did that there was an opportunity to . . . the next question could have
been that.
Mr. Bozic: Yeah, but you said, no we are voting on these two first . . .
Dir. of Law: Which was voted on . . .
Mr. Bozic: These two changes . . .
Mr. Sisak: Because that was the motion.
Dir. of Law: And then there was an opportunity after that you could have . . .
Mr. Bozic: So, you are saying procedurally by motion to . . .
Dir. of Law: Then Mr. Sisak asked for a motion to adopt the budget and there was a second. So
that is where we are at. I didn’t say anything . . .
Mr. Bozic: OK, so the motion I am making is to withdraw funding . . .
Dir. of Law: You have to act on the motion before you.
Mr. Sisak: Yeah, we can’t amend it; we have to go forward with the current motion.
Mr. Bozic: That was the question that I had prior to you closing those two prior amendments to
the Park Maintenance Account and all those other changes and I asked the question.
Dir. of Law: At that time, the question before you was the amendment and then you could have
made . . . another motion could have been made before that motion, but this motion was made.
That is the sequence that happened. I was not involved in that. That is what happened and that
was the motion that was called for and that was the motion that was made and there was a second.
Mr. Sisak: I didn’t understand your intent to amend the . . .
Mr. Bozic: So, in other words, any other motion to make amendments to the budget . . . so
therefore the last 30 minutes of conversation was not even needed because . . .
Dir. of Law: You could withdraw the motion, or you can take the vote and then depending on the
outcome of that vote you can take another vote following it.
Mrs. Kilway: I am not going to withdraw my motion I’m sorry because the amount that we are
talking about, if we were to replace the second Captain’s position with a Lieutenant’s position, the
financial burden is basically the same and I’m not going to defund the account.
Mr. Bozic: Which is exactly my point Ms. Kilway.
Mrs. Kilway: We are talking about funding at this point in time; we are not talking administration
so that is a whole different topic that needs to be had.
Mr. Bozic: The reason for bringing this up was because the administration had said that there is
a financial commitment that will burden the City if they go with a Lieutenant, and you just said that
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Mr. Bozic (Cont’d.) everyone else is pretty much in agreement that if we go with the Lieutenant
the financial burden it really isn’t almost in existence.
Mrs. Kilway: That is going off your information that you just gave on record.
Mr. Bozic: This was the information provided by the Administration.
Mrs. Kilway: Well, I am not going to withdraw my motion; I’m sorry. I think we are going to vote
on the budget at this point in time. That is a whole different topic that we need to have a discussion
on it that doesn’t have to do with funding. Honestly, we are about approving the funding and not
the Administration.
Mr. Bozic: (inaudible – microphone not on)
Mrs. Kilway: But no, you are talking Administration because you want to change positions and
that is not our job.
Mr. Sisak: Alright, any further discussion on the budget this evening?
Mr. Bollas: I have one additional item if I may. Mr. Rorar you had provided some information on
the Summit DD building, and I just wanted to ask if there were some items that the price did not
include for the demolition specifically the asbestos survey and removal, topsoil, seed, straw and
solid waste removal disposal. Do you have an estimate on those at this time of any kind and how
would that impact the budget that we are about to vote on?
Dir. of Pub. Service: Surprisingly the asbestos was very minimal in there and I don’t have a price
for any of that, but the asbestos would be the big dollar amount but surprisingly that report came
back that it was minimal. I don’t have any numbers, but I will get you that.
Dir. of Finance: Just for clarification though, we do not have anything for the actual demolition of
the DD in the current budget. We are holding onto that waiting to hear from the State if we received
the grant funding and then at that time, we will move forward with an appropriation for demolition
assuming we get the grant funding. So, there is not actually any money in the budget to demolish
the DD in 2023.
Mr. Bollas: Thank you and what was the total of the grant that was requested?
Mayor: $1 million.
Mr. Bollas: OK, so then subtracting the $600 for the demo quote; would $400 potentially cover
that removal of the asbestos or are we saying that . . .
Dir. of Pub. Service: No, it will be minimal, but most of that material can be taken out.
Mayor: We had a sample done of the asbestos and it is in pretty good shape.
Dir. of Pub. Service: So, the cost should be less.
Mayor: If we get the grant for the $1 million then that will cover for the asbestos and the demo and
the seeding and restoration of the property.
Mr. Bollas: Can the grant money . . . can it be used for any other demolition, or it has to be that
requested site?
Mayor: That site.
Dir. of Law: Mr. Sisak, I want to clarify . . . I looked up Robert’s Rules and I do want to be fair so
that you all are doing this in accordance with Robert’s Rules and there is an ability to make an
amendment to the initial motion, so you can do that. It would have to be seconded.
Mr. Sisak: Within the current . . .
Dir. of Law: Within the current motion and it is called a primary amendment.
Mr. Sisak: Mr. Bozic this would be your opportunity sir.
Mr. Bozic: So, again I would like to make a motion to withdraw funds that would be appropriated
for a Captain position for the year 2023 budget as proposed. That amount would be at the
determination of I would say the salary wage rate, or ii should say the hourly rate as it is calculated
now based upon the information that I received from Mr. Cooper which the 2023 rate would be
$49.74 which would end up being what about $102 or something like that. Right off the top of my
head I don’t have it. So, it comes out to, if you use 40 hours a week and that is $103,459.20 which
I believe you were using a factor of like 16% for benefits; is that correct?
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Dir. of Finance: (inaudible – microphone not turned on)
Mr. Bozic: So, an additional $36,000 at 35%. So, $103,495 plus the $36,000 so we will call it an
even $140.
Mr. Sisak: So, the amendment is to remove $140,000 from the Police Budget for a second Captain.
Is that what I am hearing?
Mr. Bozic: Correct, with knowing that should the Administration choose to fill a Lieutenant position
that that information or that request can always be made at any point in time at any Council meeting
to have that appropriation put into the budget for 2023. It is not saying that we are defunding
anything. It is saying that we are removing the funding for the Captain position because you are
creating something that didn’t need to be created to begin with when you already have the rate
structure in place. You are just choosing not to fulfill it.
Mr. Sisak: Is there a second?
Pres. of Council: Out of respect for all Council members, I will second that and I would second
any motion that any of you guys made.
Mayor: (Inaudible – microphone not on)
Mr. Bozic: The motion is to withdraw $140,000.
Mayor: From the Police Department Salaries?
Mr. Sisak: Yes. Any discussion?
Mr. Bollas: I have a procedural question. So, we are talking about the 2023 budget and so
procedurally at any point in time or what is the chain of events for us if this . . . if there were to be
a proposed change like this if the budget were to be passed and this were not included; what
procedurally would have to be proposed or the events that would take place to make a change
such as this?
Mayor: The Police Department would have to make a request for Council to add money back in
that it took away. You have had this budget for 5 weeks and are not coming in to ask questions.
Yes, you sent out an e-mail the other day asking for some things like the Union Rep . . . that is not
a legislative responsibility. The Administration administrates the Police Department management.
Mr. Sisak: Well, I guess my problem is with all of this is a lack of transparency. You say your door
is open, but you say all of us come in here for 2 hours and we also work a full-time job. So, you
know, give us a little bit of credit where credit is due.
Mr. Sisak: Is there any further discussion? I think what we are trying to drive is transparency and
for whatever reason the Administration has been very closed door and limiting and talking in circles
and not giving the truths of the truths. There is only one truth and that is the honest truth. There
are not two truths.
Mayor: You are right.
Pres. of Council: Let’s stay to what our goal is here, and we have . . . Mr. Sisak, go ahead and
run your committee but we have a motion and a second and we are in the end of discussion.
Dir. of Law: What you are voting on is only the amendments to remove the $140,000.
Mr. Sisak: So, in closing I have resigned myself in speaking with our Chief, other Chiefs from other
communities and other staff from other police agencies, police officers from around the County and
the State of Ohio. We know that this isn’t probably what is the best for Tallmadge to have 2
Captains, but again I have resigned myself for 2 Captains and I will support our Police and Fire to
the hill and so I will be voting no on this. Thanks. Is there any further discussion?
Mrs. Gutman: I will make a comment. The Organizational Effectiveness Assessment for our
Police Department was not something I was planning on talking about at this meeting, but there
are comments regarding the structure of the Lieutenant/Captain versus 2 Captains in that report
and there is acknowledgement that there is debate on which one is better, but that report also
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sends that both structures work in different situations and there are comments that while the
members of the department say they want a certain structure that numbers couldn’t say why. So,
you know at the end of the day it is not our decision on Council and it is not cut and dry and I don’t
know why it keeps being debated here and discussed. It seems pretty clear that there are ulterior
motives being pushed and it is interesting that we talk about transparency because it doesn’t feel
transparent, and it keeps happening and coming up but at the end of the day it is not our
responsibility. We cannot legislate administrative duties and so it is frustrating that time is being
taken when we could be doing things that are our responsibility and it causes all of this discord and
fighting frankly that is really not a good look for anybody that is watching Tallmadge Council and
the Administration. I don’t know what they would think right now to see this. So, that said I am
obviously and clearly not in support of defunding the Police in the City of Tallmadge.
Mr. Bollas: So just out of context for everyone here, there was some data provided at about 2:45
p.m. today via e-mail and not all of Council was on that initial e-mail. That is the data that was
being brought up in context. I just wanted to bring that up because that wasn’t sent out to Council
as a whole. It was a response to a series of questions presented by Mr. Bozic.
Mr. Sisak: Would you like me to forward that to the rest of Council?
Mr. Bollas: Sure, I can do that.
Mr. Bozic: I do want to add that within that e-mail that Mr. Bollas spoke about, there was
information there about the recent comp study that is being conducted and within that it mentions
that it is an 18-week process from the time that they begin. I don’t know when you guys began that
process. I know when the contract was signed which was June 7 th or 8th or something like that.
Well that is 25 weeks out from that date as it currently stands and so I think that information would
be very pertinent to have before making a decision to blow up an organization chart and say hey
we need to make an other position when we already have an administrative position but we are not
going to fill it because we choose not to, but I think that information within the comp study would
be vital in determining that look, if our Chief and Captain aren’t making what they should be making,
then let’s pay them what they should be making and if the Lieutenant pay rate is too high, then you
know what, when we come up to the contract negotiations bring that up administration. Bring it up
and you know let them deal with that as it should happen, but I think when we look at this
information, we need to see all of the facts and again I apologize I guess I did . . . when I did receive
this at 2:45 p.m. I wasn’t exactly looking at who all received this and so I did assume that most
everyone on Council received it, but I agree, I think that that information is vital in understanding
the process of what the administration has told us and I understand what you guys are saying about
it not being an administrative function of Council. That is why I am saying from a legislative function
of Council, we can provide funds or not provide funds within the budget and that is simply what I
am empowering us to do; that’s all I am asking is to withdraw the funds from that account until we
can further look at the information within the Comp Study. You mentioned the Police Study and
that Police Study is not worth anything. I mean, the administration has basically put it to the side
and not done anything with it. We have talked very little about it and we had one meeting about it
outside of Council and honestly, I question the absolute integrity of the study to begin with which is
a whole different topic but I just . . . I ask that Council think open mindedly about it and understand
the reasoning for the amendment. That’s all.
Mr. Sisak: Can we have a vote on this amendment within the motion.
Roll Call: Mrs. Kilway – no, Mr. Loughry – no, Mr. Sisak – no, Mrs. Allman – no, Mr. Bollas – no,
Mr. Bozic – yes, Mrs. Gutman – no. The amendment for the motion has been turned down by
a vote of 1-6.
Mr. Sisak: OK. Back to Ord. 2022-78 – Amended- Exhibit Amended 11-10 – Amended – Exhibit
Amended 12-8. We have a motion and a second. Is there any further discussion on this?
Mr. Bollas: I just wanted forwarded Council the information that was referenced tonight.
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Roll Call: Mr. Loughry – yes, Mr. Sisak – yes, Mrs. Allman – yes, Mr. Bollas – yes, Mr. Bozic – yes,
Mrs. Gutman – yes, Mrs. Kilway – yes. Ord. 2022-78 Amended - Exhibit Amended 11-10 –
Amended – Exhibit Amended 12-8 has been adopted by a vote of 7-0. Is there anything to
come before the Finance Committee at this time? Hearing none, I will close committee.
Ord. 2022-79 At 3rd Reading.
Tracked Establishing the number of non-collective bargaining
PERSONNEL employees by department and position pursuant to
P.H. ON 12-8-22 R.C. 731.08 and providing for immediate enactment.
@ 7:03 P.M.
Pres. of Council: It is now 8:13 p.m. and we will have our 2nd public hearing of the evening which
is Ord. 2022-79. Mr. Bollas I will turn the public hearing over to you. Please read the ordinance
into the record and conduct your public hearing.
Mr. Bollas: I call the public hearing for Ord. 2022-79 Tracked at 3rd Reading. The ordinance was
read into the record. Is there anyone here from the public this evening that is in favor of Ord. 2022-
79? No one responded. Is there anyone here against Ord. 2022-79? No one responded. Second
time; is there anybody in favor of Ord. 2022-79? No one responded. Is there anyone against Ord.
2022-79. Third and final request; is there anyone in favor of or against Ord. 2022-79? Hearing
none it is 8:15 p.m. and I close the public hearing.
Mr. Bollas: I call the Personnel Committee to order. We have Ord. 2022-79 tracked at 3rd Reading.
We had a public hearing and there were no comments in favor of or against the ordinance. Is there
any discussion for the committee or the administration.
Mr. Bozic: I would like to make an amendment to this ordinance. I would like to have the Captain
position withdrawn from the grid.
Pres. of Council: Second.
Mr. Bollas: So, we have a motion for an amendment to remove the Captain’s position from the
grid. Is there a second?
Mr. Sisak: Point of order; it would be a second position; it would go back down to one; is that
correct.
Mr. Bozic: Yes, that is correct. It says 2 currently and it would go back down to 1.
Mr. Bollas: There has been an amendment proposed that would take the 2 Captain positions
down to 1. Again, there is a motion; is there a second.
Pres. of Council: Mr. Sisak seconded it.
Mr. Sisak: No, he did not.
Mr. Loughry: Oh, I’m sorry. I’ll second it.
Mr. Bollas: So, we have a motion and a second. Is there any discussion?
Mayor: Mr. Bollas, discussion is that the Administration is totally against the amendment for the
record.
Mr. Bozic: I have a question in regard to the current Comp Study. Do we have a date of when the
Comp Study will be in hand?
Mr. Sisak: Or is it already?
Dir. of Pub. Safety: I was assured today that we would have the initial report to us by the end of
the year and we do not have anything like that so far.
Mr. Sisak: In regard to that, I was hopeful that the documents that were shared with us today that
the organization would be happy to present to Council as well. I keep kind of hanging onto that as
far as the Comp Study goes.
Mayor: It was part of their contract to present to Council.
Mr. Sisak: I’m counting on them.
Mr. Bozic: For the record, I would like to just make the following statement that again this is well
within our function of Council to make an amendment to any piece of legislation that comes before
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Mr. Bozic (Cont’d.) us. I am not against the Police Department; I’m not against having the proper
rank and structure. I have been saying that for the last how many months that we have talked
about it. I am in disagreement with the way the administration is going about this. I don’t think that
they have been, as Mr. Sisak has said, they certainly haven’t been very transparent about it. The
integrity and the way they have gone about handling talks with the unions over the last several
years has been very mismanaged and I just want that to be known so when we come forward in
the next year we can look at this and say you know, we . . . because I know where this is going to
go; everyone is going to vote it down, but I’m still going to make the motion, but I hope one day we
can have Council say, well you know maybe we should have listened to Mr. Bozic.
Mr. Bollas: Any other discussion from Council or the Administration.
Pres. of Council: I just want to go on the record that I had several conversations with the Chiefs,
former Chiefs, people in other departments and with Chief Williams and what I have learned from
this is it is not so much the structure especially in a small department; it’s the people, but in this
case Chief Williams came here tonight and said that he wants to run his department with 2 Captains
and for all my years in management and dealing with personnel, unless I have real concerns with
the person in leadership, I almost always support their judgement and so I support Chief Williams
and I support having 2 Captains if that is the way he wants to lead this organization.
Mr. Bollas: So, there was a motion and a second and we are just wrapping up discussion. So are
there any other comments for discussion on the proposed amendment.
Mr. Bozic: Point of order. Just to clarify a vote of no is a turning down of the change of the
amendment and a vote of yes is agreeing and accepting the amendment; correct?
Mayor: Correct.
Roll Call: Mr. Sisak – no, Mrs. Allman – no, Mr. Bollas – no, Mr. Bozic – yes, Mrs. Gutman – no,
Mrs. Kilway – no, Mr. Loughry – no. The proposed amendment was declined by a vote of 1-6.
Mr. Bollas: Now we have Ord. 2022-79 Tracked.
Mrs. Kilway: I move for the adoption of Ord. 2022-79 Tracked. Seconded Mr. Sisak. Roll Call:
Mrs. Allman, Mr. Bollas, Mr. Bozic, Mrs. Gutman, Mrs. Kilway, Mr. Loughry, Mr. Sisak – unanimous.
Ord. 2022-79 Tracked is adopted by a vote of 7-0.
Mr. Bollas: Is there anything else to come before Personnel this evening? I close committee.
7. Community Input:
Pres. of Council: This is the time in the meeting when anyone can address Council on anything
that is not on our agenda this evening. Is there anyone in the audience that would like to do that?
Seeing none, let’s move on to Item 8.
8. Agenda Additions: None.
9. Reports of Administrative Officers:
a. Mayor/Director of Economic Development: Thank you. I will be very brief.
• JEDD – The Aldi’s has moved their opening date until the end of February. The lot beside
it that everybody keeps asking about. I will say that they are working with a restaurant, but
they are not at this time willing to disclose the name of that restaurant.
• Beef O-Brady’s is closing their doors, but the good news is the owners of Beef
O’Brady’s is opening in the same location as the Basement.
• The 40 acres behind Kohl’s that abuts Tallmadge Hills, Brimfield was gifted that 40
acres as long as they would make it into a park. So, Tallmadge Hills will be protected from
any development, but it will be a parkland and it will take a long time for them to develop
that.
Pres. of Council: Will there be any discussion about Tallmadge Hills being able to access
that?
Mayor: There are a lot of wetlands back there behind Tallmadge Hills. There is a lake
back there and they want to clean out the lake and make it like a paddle boating or
something back in there with some trails.
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• You saw the sign that Pool Town was sold. The signature is not on the line so I can’t
announce but I will say that it will require some building changes. Unfortunately, Pool Town
is currently zoned I-1, industrial. That is really not an industrial spot. The person that wants
to go in there is more of a commercial operation so it will require some moving around a
little.
Mr. Sisak: The building sold but not the business?
Mayor: They retired.
Mr. Sisak: I just wanted to make sure the store front was sold. I didn’t know if they sold
the business.
Mayor: No, they retired.
• Mayor: Then I have to end with the Fire Department. As you can see the Fire Station
there it looks pretty complete except for the Vis queen and the garage doors. We are still
having problems receiving those garage doors. I will say there is some litigation going on.
The Law Director is heavily involved in the process between the five different lawyers and
the four different companies. I will say that Thomarious is willing to put up temporary garage
doors so we can get occupancy, temporary occupancy. We are still waiting to go down
that path. End of report.
Mr. Bollas: Does that then mean that there is no more need for the temporary generators
that were proposed.
Mayor: We will see who comes first. The backup generator is supposed to be shipped on
December 20th. If the doors were installed, we would have had the backup back-up
generator. So, the big generator to handle most of the building is not due to be shipped
until the 20th, but there is a means to put a backup to that generator in case the backup
generator failed. We are not authorizing them to release that because the doors aren’t
here so hopefully the doors and the backup generator come in together.
Mr. Sisak: A status on the Director or Economic Development vacancy?
Mayor: We are interviewing a few folks right now. My goal is after the first of the year.
b. Director of Public Safety: Just two quick things.
• The Police Department has been involved in active shooter and search training
in the MRDD building. It is excellent training and I just wanted to make sure everyone
knows how well that they do, not only in conducting the training but being students.
They are doing an excellent job and you need to know that.
• The Fire Department spent all day Friday and Saturday morning at a fire in Kent.
There is a building there called Star of West Mill, historic old building that basically
went up in flames and our new ladder truck was there for all of Friday and some of
Saturday morning. Again, the new Chief recognized the quality of their work; they
changed shifts multiple times, and they swapped out personnel and again did an
excellent job for our neighboring communities. End of report.
c. Director of Public Service: No report other than we are on schedule with the leaf season
pickup. We are actually probably ahead of schedule right now. We did finish the second
round in District 2, and we have gone back in 3 and 4, but we are not done because that
is the schedule so we will still be working in the next two weeks. However, we have gotten
rid of the temporaries. Their last day will be tomorrow and then the trucking is done as
well. We are strictly using vacs at this point.
d. Director of Finance: Good evening. Everyone received my written reports. I did remind
you of the re-appropriation coming up later and we can discuss that when we are in the
Finance Committee. If anyone has any questions, I will be glad to answer them.
e. Director of Law: No report.
Mr. Bozic: I just want to say thank you to the Dir. of Law for making that clarification on
the Robert’s Rules. I do appreciate that, and I appreciate you letting our legislative body
act in a way that holds true to the meaning of what our City Government should be and
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Mr. Bozic (Cont’d.) allowing us to openly discuss differences of opinion and to bring up
amendments so I do appreciate you allowing that and thank you.
10. Reports of Standing Committees of Council of the Whole:
a. Planning and Zoning
Carol Kilway, Chair
Rebecca Allman, Vice Chair
The Planning & Zoning Committee deals with land use, zoning, conditional uses,
planning, economic and community development, and public property.
i. 1st Readings of Ordinances and Resolutions
A. Ord. 2022-85 – Amending Ord. 74-2016 approving and granting a condi-
tional zoning certificate for Village at Town Center Phase 4 and amending
Partial Phase I to applicant Testa Enterprises, Inc. on behalf of owner
VTC Development, LLC for Parcel Number 6000310 (North Ave.) and
Parcel Numbers 6010466 and 6010467 of 100 North Avenue.
Sponsor: Carol Kilway
Mrs. Kilway: I call the Planning & Zoning Committee to order. We do have Ord. 2022-85.
The ordinance was read into the record. This just came in front of Planning & Zoning last
week and it was just read into the record. So, at this time there is really no action from us
except to give it a reading.
Mr. Sisak: Madame Chair, where are Phase 2 & 3? Do we know because I know there
are other buildings in their original plan, and it sounds from what I read that it was just to
fill the use of the current building and rework it.
Dir. of Law: No, so the rest of them are considered completed and so Phase I was that
and Phase 2 is the dental and Jimmy John’s and Phase 3 is the Summa building and Phase
4 would be that empty area that is still there and then they are amending a portion of Phase
1 and then also doing Phase 4 which is that other empty area.
Mr. Sisak: OK, so the empty area and then reworking the first phase . . . the first phase,
the open commercial space; they are going to redo into it sounded like apartments?
Dir. of Law: They are asking for apartments in the main building that is already built and
then also the multi-family in Phase 4.
Pres. of Council: What about the top floor?
Dir. of Law: There is no change to that. Right now, my understanding is that that is still
market rate and then it ended up being apartments.
Mr. Bollas: Just as a point of clarification, this is going three readings and there is a public
hearing on January 5th. Is that correct. A public hearing by Planning & Zoning on January
5th?
Dir. of Law: That is correct. Then it comes back to you. So, it will still be in front of you.
It will be at 2nd Reading in January, and you will have a recommendation from Planning &
Zoning at that point and so typically you would incorporate whatever recommendation and
then it would go to 3rd Reading at the end of January where you take action one way or the
other.
Mrs. Kilway: So, we will just give this a 1st Reading. Is there anything else for Planning &
Zoning at this time? No one responded. I will close committee.
ii. Additional Items: None.
b. Finance
Craig Sisak, Chair
Jonathon Bollas, Vice Chair
The Finance Committee deals with budget, appropriations, and reappropriations,
bonds, franchises, investments, and expenditures.
i. 3rd Readings of Ordinances and Resolutions
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A. Ord. 2022-80 – Amended – Authorizing the Mayor to enter into a contract
without competitive bidding and through the State Purchasing Program, or
as authorized by R.C. 125.04 (C), with MNJ Technologies for the purchase
of computer equipment, software licenses, and related equipment appro-
priating additional necessary funds and providing for immediate enactment.
Sponsor: Mayor Kline
Mr. Sisak: I call the Finance Committee to order. We have Ord. 2022-80 at 3rd Reading.
The ordinance was read into the record. I would like a motion please on this.
Mrs. Kilway: I move for the adoption of Ord. 2022-80. Seconded Mrs. Allman. Roll Call:
Mr. Bollas, Mr. Bozic, Mrs. Gutman, Mrs. Kilway, Mr. Loughry, Mr. Sisak, Mrs. Allman –
unanimous. Ord. 2022-80 amended is adopted by a vote of 7-0.
ii. 1st Readings of Ordinances and Resolutions
A. Ord. 2022-86 – Appropriating amounts and reducing appropriations in
various funds and providing for immediate enactment.
Sponsor: Dir. of Finance Gilbride
Mr. Sisak: Next we have 1st Reading of Ord. 2022-86. The ordinance was read into the
record.
Dir. of Finance: What I went ahead and did was we had three departments actually who
just being smaller departments we are not kind of able to withstand some of the bonus that
we passed which we knew was not budgeted and some changes in health insurance
coverage throughout the year that were not budgeted for and so we just had some minor
departmental changes for Zoning, Garage and our Historic Church Department and
because we had other departments that had either not filled some positions or some of
their positions were redirected into those mainly the Historic Church, the Rec Center uses
some of their custodians out there and were trying to charge the departments as we are
using them and so those custodians are charging at the Historic Church so we were able
to redirect some of those budgeted numbers from those departments to cover the overages
and the other so that the net effect of this ordinance is actually a zero increase in
appropriations in the General Fund. It is just a movement of appropriations throughout the
departments.
Mr. Sisak: Can I get a motion on this?
Mrs. Kilway: I move for the adoption of Ord. 2022-86. Seconded Mrs. Allman.
Mayor: Mr. Chairman I would just like to recognize all of our department heads. You know
we have close to a $35 million budget. Everybody worked within their means, and we did
a lot of good stuff throughout the City so congratulations to all and the Finance Director.
Roll Call: Mr. Bozic, Mrs. Gutman, Mrs. Kilway, Mr. Loughery, Mr. Sisak, Mrs. Allman, Mr.
Bollas – unanimous. Ord. 2022-86 is adopted by a vote of 7-0.
B. Ord. 2022-87 – Authorizing the appropriation of funds for purposes of the
Fire Station Construction Project and providing for immediate enactment.
Sponsor: Mayor Kline
Mr. Sisak: We also have Ord. 2022-87. The ordinance was read into the record.
Mayor: We applied for funds to demo Station 2 and we did receive funds from the land
bank, and it is a 50% grant and so the land bank would pay up to 50% of the demolition.
That is a guarantee, and you have to spend the money and then get reimbursed. The
better grant that is out there that we are also looking to combine with that is the State grant.
The same grant that we applied for the Summit DD building we applied for the fire station.
We have been asked for several documents for the fire station and so it looks like it is
forthcoming and that again is a reimbursement grant. We thought that we applied for those
grants back in July, or so it is advancing the money for the demo for Station 2.
Mrs. Kilway: So, basically what I hear from Mayor Kline is this is an ordinance to
appropriate $30,000 but then we are guaranteed to get $15,000 back with the potential of
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Mrs. Kilway (Cont’d.) the rest from the State.
Mayor: Up to 50% of the demo cost.
Mrs. Kilway: So, if the demo cost $30,000; we would get $15,000?
Mayor: Right.
Mrs. Kilway: I move for the adoption of Ord. 2022-87. Seconded Mrs. Allman. Roll Call:
Mrs. Gutman, Mrs. Kilway, Mr. Loughry, Mr. Sisak, Mrs. Allman, Mr. Bollas, Mr. Bozic –
unanimous. Ord. 2022-87 is adopted by a vote of 7-0.
iii. Additional Items
c. Personnel
Jonathon Bollas, Chair
Adam Bozic, Vice Chair
The Personnel Committee deals with personnel, labor relations, insurance claims,
Rules of Council and State Statutes.
Mr. Bollas: I call the Personnel Committee to order. We have no legislation before us this
evening. Is there anything from the Council or the Administration?
Mayor: I would just like to recognize our Chairman of the Civil Service Commission. Mr.
Naso, thank you for your service as the Chairman of the Civil Service Commission.
Mr. Bollas: Any other comments or questions? Thank you, I close committee.
i. Additional Items: None.
d. Community Issues/Safety
Mary Gutman, Chair
Carol Kilway, Vice Chair
The Community Issues Committee deals with Parks and Recreation, civic affairs,
and liaison between Council and the Recreation Board and intergovernmental
affairs.
i. 3rd Readings of Ordinances and Resolutions
A. Ord. 2022-81 – Tracked Amended Exhibit 12-8 – Amending and supplementing
Ord. 2021-117 to amend rates, charges, and fees for all recreational facilities and
providing for immediate enactment.
Sponsor: Mayor Kline
Mrs. Gutman: I call the Community Issues/Safety Committee to order. We have Ord.
2022-81 before us at 3rd Reading. The ordinance was read into the record. Can I have a
motion to adopt this ordinance?
Mayor: You have an amendment.
Mrs. Gutman: Can I have a motion to amend this?
Mr. Bollas made a motion for the amendment to Ord. 2022-81. Seconded Mr. Bozic.
Mrs. Gutman: Is there any further discussion. I know that we have talked about this
extensively.
Pres. of Council: There have been several changes, but I wanted to acknowledge Mrs.
Gilbride from our last meeting. I had always been saying resident, non-resident when in
my mind I was thinking tax payer, non-tax payer and Mrs. Gilbride brought that to our
attention in that we have employees and businesses in our City that pay income tax to the
City and they live elsewhere and so by no means did I mean that they should not be able
to get the same benefit that our residents get, but just philosophically I believe that those
that don’t pay should not get things for the same price as those of us that do. So, again, I
also said that there could be discussion on what those differences in amounts may be, but
I just wanted to acknowledge Mrs. Gilbride’s point.
Mrs. Gutman: Thank you.
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Mr. Bollas: Yes, I just wanted to say thank you to the Parks and Rec Department and Mr.
Rorar for just going through and being accepting for my proposal for the Veteran’s discount.
I think that is a great thing for the City. I look forward to seeing the data as we kind of throw
that out.
Mrs. Gutman: Any further comments or discussion? If not, Madame Clerk please call the
roll. Mrs. Kilway, Mr. Loughry, Mr. Sisak, Mrs. Allman, Mr. Bollas, Mr. Bozic, Mrs. Gutman
– unanimous. Ord. 2022-81 is amended by a vote of 7-0.
Mrs. Gutman: Do I have a motion to adopt?
Mr. Sisak: So moved. Seconded Mr. Loughry. Roll Call: Mr. Loughry, Mr. Sisak, Mrs.
Allman, Mr. Bollas, Mr. Bozic, Mrs. Gutman, Mrs. Kilway – unanimous. Ord. 2022-82 is
adopted by a vote of 7-0. Is there anything else for Community Issues? Hearing none, I
will close committee.
ii. Additional Items: None.
e. Safety
Adam Bozic, Chair
Craig Sisak, Vice Chair
The Safety Committee deals with disaster services, communications, fire, and para-
medics, police, and health.
Mr. Bozic: I will open the Safety Committee. We currently have no legislation in front of
us so I will open it up for any additional items from Council or the Administration. Hearing
none, I will close committee.
i. Additional Items: None.
f. Public Service
Rebecca Allman, Chair
Mary Gutman, Vice Chair
The Public Service Committee deals with streets, highways, sidewalks, buildings,
and improvements: water, sewer, electricity, gas, energy resources, recycle, waste,
and trash.
i. 1st Readings of Ordinances and Resolutions
A. Ord. 2022-84 – Authorizing the Director of Public Service to advertise for bids
and the Mayor to enter into a contract for the Lions Park Tennis/Pickleball
Courts Resurfacing Project and providing for immediate enactment.
Sponsor: Dir. of Pub. Service Rorar
Mrs. Allman: I call the Public Service Department to order. We have Ord. 2022-84 at 1st
Reading. The ordinance was read into the record.
Dir. of Pub. Service: So, this was part of the ARPA Funds and I was in hopes that we
could get the tennis courts done in the fall. The timing of it was poor. The weather got
cold faster than I thought and then we were flirting with that $50,000 mark where we would
have had to go out for bid. It wasn’t clear and so I thought we would just scuttle that idea
and just go out to bid. What I would like to do is normally I would throw that on the paving
program but I would like to get these tennis courts paved as soon as possible in April or
May.
Mrs. Allman: Is there any discussion?
Pres. of Council: You don’t need 1st Reading adoption right Mr. Rorar?
Dir. of Pub. Service: When do we meet again?
Pres. of Council: January 12th.
Dir. of Pub. Service: It would be nice.
Mr. Bozic: I make a motion for the adoption or Ord. 2022-84 at 1st Reading. Seconded
Mr. Loughry.
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Mr. Sisak: Is there a group purchasing program with the Pickleball Association or
anything?
Dir. of Pub. Service: Not that I know of.
Roll Call: Mr. Sisak, Mrs. Allman, Mr. Bollas, Mr. Bozic, Mrs. Gutman, Mrs. Kilway, Mr.
Loughry – unanimous. Ord. 2022-84 is adopted by a vote of 7-0. Is there anything else
for the Public Service Committee? Hearing none, I close committee.
ii. Additional Items: None.
11. Reports of Special Committees:
Pres. of Council: Mrs. Conti and Mrs. Burton and I met this week just basically to review the whole
year of what worked well and what we can maybe tweak for next year. We also talked about some
goals and objectives and basically it is going to be a continuation of cross-training and getting a
Procedure Manual put together. It’s basically to make sure that we are all on the same page on
how we do something in case someone is absent for an extended period of time. I want to thank
them. They do a tremendous amount of work behind the scenes that no one sees, and they have
been very beneficial to me this year and I am sure they have been helpful to you all as well. So, I
appreciate what they do for us.
a. Council Operations Committee
i. Additional Items
12. Announcements: Our next meeting will be January 12, 2023.
Mr. Bollas: Yes, regarding Council operations, I just wanted to do a quick review. Overall, the live
streaming implementation; I just want to thank Dove and Justin of IT and the Administration and
the Mayor for approving the budget for that. It has really shown the quality that is being provided.
I know all of us have had a chance to really watch those meetings and it is a first for the City and it
was just absolutely implemented and I think I can speak for all of us in saying that I am very
impressed and in the future I just wanted to say that we are looking at upgrading these monitors
here so we can all see them and read them and then the wireless mikes; they are being ordered.
I was told there is a backlog and so I need to have a follow-up I need to have with the Finance
Director around the purchase of those, but overall, I think it was a great year for the Council Office
and the live streaming. So, thank you.
13. Adjournment: Mr. Sisak moved to adjourn. Seconded Mrs. Kilway. Roll Call: Mrs. Allman, Mr.
Bollas, Mr. Bozic, Mrs. Gutman, Mrs. Kilway, Mr. Loughry, Mr. Sisak – unanimous. The Council
meeting of 12-8-22 adjourned at 8:59 p.m.
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Adopted:
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Susan E. Burton, Clerk of Council Dennis K. Loughry, President of Council
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Council Meeting Agenda
THURSDAY, DECEMBER 8, 2022 IN COUNCIL CHAMBERS
7:00 P.M. 46 NORTH AVENUE, TALLMADGE, OH
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1. Call to Order:
2. Opening Prayer & Pledge of Allegiance:
Prayer: Pastor Jim Case, Tallmadge Lutheran Church.
Pledge of Allegiance: Violet Vacha, 5th grade student at Tallmadge Elementary.
3. Roll Call:
3.A. Swearing in of: John Underwood – Fire Chief
Nicholas Sansom – Battalion Chief
Joshua Goldner – Full Time Firefighter/Paramedic
4. Correcting and Adopting the Previous Meeting Minutes:
11-10-22 Council Meeting Minutes
5. Financial Reports:
• Fire & EMS Fund Transfer in the amount of $125,000, Street Maintenance & Repair
Fund in the amount of $200,000, and the General Fund in the amount of $250,000 to
Council on 12-1-22.
• Appropriation Report, Fund Report and Revenue Report for the period ending 11-
30-22 to Council on 12-5-22.
• November Financial Reports to Council on 12-5-22.
• Tallmadge Recreation Center Profit and Loss Report for the period ending 11-30-22
to Council on 12-5-22.
• Income Tax Comparisons for the period ending 11-30-22 to Council on 12-5-22.
• Consolidated Investment Portfolio for the period ending 11-30-22 to Council on
12-5-22.
• Income Tax by Source Report for the month of November to Council on 12-5-22.
• Revenue Comparisons for Major Funds for the period ending 11-30-22 to Council on
12-5-22.
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6. Public Hearings:
i. 3rd Readings of Ordinances and Resolutions
A. Ord. 2022-78
Amended~Exhibit Amended 11-10
Amended – Exhibit Amended 12-8
At 3rd Reading.
Adopting a budget for various funds of the City of Tallmadge,
FINANCE Ohio, for current expenses and other expenditures during fiscal
P.H. ON 12-8-22 year ending December 31, 2023, appropriating the necessary
@ 7:01 P.M. funds for the administration thereof, authorizing transfers
between funds and providing for immediate enactment.
Sponsor: Mayor Kline
ii. B. Ord. 2022-79
Tracked
At 3rd Reading.
Establishing the number of non-collective bargaining
PERSONNEL employees by department and position pursuant to
P.H. ON 12-8-22 R.C. 731.08 and providing for immediate enactment.
@ 7:03 P.M.
7. Community Input:
8. Agenda Additions:
9. Reports of Administrative Officers:
a. Mayor/Director of Economic Development
b. Director of Administration/Director of Safety
c. Director of Public Service
d. Director of Finance
e. Director of Law
10. Reports of Standing Committees of Council of the Whole:
a. Planning and Zoning
Carol Kilway, Chair
Rebecca Allman, Vice Chair
The Planning & Zoning Committee deals with land use, zoning, conditional uses,
planning, economic and community development, and public property.
i. 1st Readings of Ordinances and Resolutions
A. Ord. 2022-85 – Amending Ord. 74-2016 approving and granting a condi-
tional zoning certificate for Village at Town Center Phase 4 and amending
Partial Phase I to applicant Testa Enterprises, Inc. on behalf of owner
VTC Development, LLC for Parcel Number 6000310 (North Ave.) and
Parcel Numbers 6010466 and 6010467 of 100 North Avenue.
Sponsor: Carol Kilway
ii. Additional Items
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b. Finance
Craig Sisak, Chair
Jonathon Bollas, Vice Chair
The Finance Committee deals with budget, appropriations, and reappropriations,
bonds, franchises, investments, and expenditures.
i. 3rd Readings of Ordinances and Resolutions
A. Ord. 2022-80 – Amended – Authorizing the Mayor to enter into a contract
without competitive bidding and through the State Purchasing Program, or
as authorized by R.C. 125.04 (C), with MNJ Technologies for the purchase
of computer equipment, software licenses, and related equipment
appropriating additional necessary funds and providing for immediate
enactment.
Sponsor: Mayor Kline
i. 1st Readings of Ordinances and Resolutions
A. Ord. 2022-86 – Appropriating amounts and reducing appropriations in
various funds and providing for immediate enactment.
Sponsor: Dir. of Finance Gilbride
B. Ord. 2022-87 – Authorizing the appropriation of funds for purposes of the
Fire Station Construction Project and providing for immediate enactment.
Sponsor: Mayor Kline
ii. Additional Items
c. Personnel
Jonathon Bollas, Chair
Adam Bozic, Vice Chair
The Personnel Committee deals with personnel, labor relations, insurance claims,
Rules of Council and State Statutes.
i. Additional Items
d. Community Issues/Safety
Mary Gutman, Chair
Carol Kilway, Vice Chair
The Community Issues Committee deals with Parks and Recreation, civic affairs,
and liaison between Council and the Recreation Board and intergovernmental affairs.
i. 3rd Readings of Ordinances and Resolutions
A. Ord. 2022-81 – Tracked Amended Exhibit 12-8 2022-81 Amended Exhibit Amended
12-8-22 Amending and supplementing
Ord. 2021-117 to amend rates, charges, and fees for all recreational facilities and
providing for immediate enactment.
Sponsor: Mayor Kline
ii. Additional Items
e. Safety
Adam Bozic, Chair
Craig Sisak, Vice Chair
The Safety Committee deals with disaster services, communications, fire, and para-
medics, police, and health.
i. Additional Items
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f. Public Service
Rebecca Allman, Chair
Mary Gutman, Vice Chair
The Public Service Committee deals with streets, highways, sidewalks, buildings, and
improvements: water, sewer, electricity, gas, energy resources, recycle, waste, and
trash.
i. 1st Readings of Ordinances and Resolutions
A. Ord. 2022-84 – Authorizing the Director of Public Service to advertise for bids
and the Mayor to enter into a contract for the Lions Park Tennis/Pickleball Courts
Resurfacing Project and providing for immediate enactment.
Sponsor: Dir. of Pub. Service Rorar
ii. Additional Items
11. Reports of Special Committees:
a. Council Operations Committee
i. Additional Items
12. Announcements:
13. Adjournment:
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