Recreation Center Governing Board

CITY OF TALLMADGE RECREATION GOVERNING BOARD Minutes For October 7, 2021 Meeting @ 10 a.m. City Hall Lower Level Conference Room Rec Board Members In Attendance: Mayor Kline, Law Director Raber, Director of Finance Gilbride, Svs. Director Rorar, Tallmadge Schools Athletic Director Bill Johnson, Community Mbr. Salerno (6 voting members) Non-Voting Members: Parks and Recreation Superintendent Jessica Simons, Administrative Assistant Dan Enos Meeting Chaired By: Mayor Kline Minutes: Karen Morgan Call To Order and Approval of Minutes: The Mayor called the meeting to order. Salerno moved to approve the minutes of the July 8th Rec Governing Board; seconded by Raber. Vote to approve: 6/0. Raber moved to approve the minutes of the July 29th Special Meeting of the Rec Governing Board; seconded by Salerno. Vote to approve: 6/0. Old Business: Past Event Updates: Simons: Our last event was the Fall Festival that just happened this past weekend. Overall, it went well, the weather was kind of a downer and I think that kept people away. We will kind of be going back to the chalkboard on that one and figuring out ways to improve it for next year. We want to plan on continuing that as a tradition as well so we will kind of retool it a little bit. I appreciate the help of the city’s street department as well as everyone else who helped out at the event to make it a success. Mayor: I thought it was well organized but again, we can’t fight Mother Nature – the weather is definitely a driver and also, the Cleveland Browns game. I noticed that after the game was over it picked up a little bit . . . Gilbride: At this time of the year you are fighting with lots of sports activities that will always affect it. Simons: One of the things that we’re looking at doing in the future would be to potentially move the day to a Saturday but also see if we can get the right to show either Ohio State or the Cleveland Browns game live at the event but I know we’d probably have to get some sort of written permission to do that but we thought that would be cool if we could project that onto a screen somewhere at the Rec Center that was in place from parking, to the whole set-up, I thought it was very well done. Mayor: Great! Staff Updates: Simons: Staffing continues to be a challenge in some areas, just trying to find part-time staff. I think we’re getting to a good place but we’re always looking for more people for instance, in Childcare and Roaming. I think we’re good at Front Desk for right now. And the Fall Fest was Samantha DeLapa’s first big event that she planned since she started and I think that went well. We just had a 6 month review with her yesterday so we’re moving forward with what she’s been doing well and what she needs to improve. I think she is definitely a good addition to our staff.  -2- New Business: Rec Center Membership and Daily Admission Price Changes: Simons: We are proposing a couple of things with our membership rates. Just for context, we have not had a membership rate increase for residents the entire time that I’ve been with the department which is now 10 years. So that is probably long overdue. We’ve only had a dollar increase in our non-resident memberships during that timeframe. When we opened 17 years ago, our membership for an annual blue was only $20 per month per resident so we really do need to probably pick that up especially with the rise in the minimum wage and all our supplies and all that stuff. So basically what we’re proposing here is a $3 a month increase across the board for all of our memberships – annual, monthly, and resident, non-resident in both blue and gold and also all of these special ones down here at the bottom. The other couple of things that we’re looking to change are to change our family of 4 max-out rate to be for annual memberships only and not allow that on monthly memberships. We’re also looking to have our annual EFT automatically renew at whatever the current annual rate is at the end of every 12 month period and then charging just a $50 cancellation fee if they cancel after the first year or after they’ve paid a year but not within a certain grace period. We are also looking to raise daily admission rates $2 to $3 kind of depending on how it worked out to be an even number down there as well. And we’re open to discussion on any of this. Salerno: I like the way the increases were even across the board. Mayor: I know it’s time to do it, I know there’s no good time to do it but it’s been a long time. We’ve been open for 17 years and it could be close to the first time we’ve raised the rates. Simons: Second. Gilbride: We raised rates by $2 in 2012 . . .? Simons: I think it was before I started so it had to have been in 2010 or before. I know we added the dollar to the non-resident rate since I’ve been here. Mayor: Have we checked the surrounding facilities like the Natatorium? Simons: Yes, and they’re pretty similar to this. Raber: Do we have the same type of a personality with our non- residents to the resident rate? Because I feel like, especially with Cuyahoga Falls, they have a much higher non-resident rate. Simons: Their facility is also much more subsidized by the city than ours is. I’ve pulled the numbers and for 2019 – and this includes potentially multiple monthly memberships – our total memberships for residents were about 8,700 and for non- residents 8,100. As of today our resident memberships are about 2,500 and our non-residents 3,500 so we kind of lean on residents and I don’t want to penalize them too much more. I know the Nat has bigger non-residents but I think that’s partially because they have a pool which allows them to charge a higher rate. Gilbride: And Cuyahoga Falls has actually a park and recreation levy that people pay. Mayor: I don’t have a problem with the rates. This is only a recommendation to council right? Raber: I wonder about the cancellation policy. I’ve been a huge fan of the idea of going to an automatic renewal from the very beginning. I quite frankly never understood why we didn’t do it. So that, I’m totally fine with. I do wonder though if we need to be a little bit tighter with that because it’s commonplace to have like a stricter renewal policy and I don’t know . . . I did have a conversation with Mollie after I had a conversation with Jessica and I guess my concern would depend on how the person handles the collectability of it. It may not be relevant but I think having a third (word here -3- indistinguishable) after the renewal date and then you renew. Like I think the $50 thing is really nominal. Gilbride: When I discussed it, I went back over Jessica’s ultimatum but my concern with them being able to cancel at any time was that it was no longer an annual membership so what’s the benefit to somebody committing to that annual membership with a $10 discount for over a year, over a monthly member who doesn’t want to make that commitment and decided to pay $10 more so that would kind of add up with what Jessica is saying. Raber: And that’s what you will typically see, if you automatically renew then you would owe for the . . . Gilbride: So that’s where I think a cancellation fee . . . where we’re saying if you cancelled past a certain time you would have to be about 5 months out and it would cost you $50 which is basically recouping 5 months at the extra $10? But I think there should be a 3 month membership penalty because I wanted it to get basically to a point where it was either going to be you paid the 3 month penalty or you just finished the year because one was cheaper than the other. I didn’t want to go that way . . . but there are collection issues when people do this because basically when you sign up to be a member you sign up to have your fees automatically deducted from your bank account. That authorization is only as good as them not stopping their bank from letting us take the money so somebody could feasibly come in and we say to them you owe us whatever and they could go to their bank and say I request you put stop payment on all City of Tallmadge deductions so we could go either way. I do agree though that it needs to be some kind of penalty because again, once they commit to one year and we let them cancel whenever it’s no different than a monthly membership. And then why are they getting a $10 discount? Simons: So that’s kind of why I put it in there that they do have to commit to that one year . . . so they are committing to a year and then we would fall back on our normal cancellation policy but after that first year and them fulfilling their original commitment that was why I was trying to be a little more lenient with them. Like you have up to 3 months after it’s renewed and then want to stop your billing, we’re not refunding anything we’re just stopping your billing and anything beyond that we’ll charge a $50 fee and stop your billing. So that was kind of where we came up with a compromise of trying to kind of offer some sort of customer focus as well as make sure what we’re covering what an annual membership is supposed to be. I’m flexible on this, if we want to create some other sort of tiered fee structure where if you cancel within 3 months, it’s 0, if after 6 months, it’s this and after 9 months, it’s this and then you can’t cancel any more. So when I called the Nat, you can’t cancel after your renewal period, you have to ride out the whole year. So if you don’t cancel by the time your membership renews, you’re simply out of luck till that year comes back around and to me, I think that’s awfully . . . Raber: But to me, that’s what everybody else usually does. If you join any other fitness program, that’s what they do. Simons: But that’s what I hear from people who belong to Planet Fitness and come here, it’s too difficult to get out of their contracts and they have lots of penalty fees too. Raber: I don’t mind having them come up a little more but my concern is that we’re going to build this into the contract with an automatic renewal you’re losing the chance to change that if that person continued their automatic renewal and payment, they could be on it for 10 years, how will you amend it if we saw the need to change it? Simons: And we do want to discourage what happens often with even employee memberships, where they join and then they stop and then they join again, etc. But maybe if we do it so that if they cancel in the first month, there’s no penalty, -4- 2-3 it would be $30, 3-6 it would be $60 and then up to 9 months, $90 . . . and you’re right, in that way we build it in now. I think that will work. Mayor: I can agree with that. If the discussion is over, can I have a motion for that? Salerno: I move to approve the Rec Center membership daily admission price changes as documented; Raber: I’d like to make an amendment to the motion that we also include the separation as discussed. Salerno, I agree with the amendment; Raber, I second the amended motion, vote to approve: 6/0. Maca Membership and Daily Admission Pricing Changes: Simons: Dan and I have been working on this since the 2019 season just because of the processing slowdowns and everything that we noticed at the “daily admission” window and then the “smoothness” that we had this year with daily admissions. We are proposing to eliminate our regular season rate increase and just have it all be at one rate from the time passes go on sale until the time the summer is over. When you look at the savings, it would amount to about $15 for the whole summer and I don’t think it would necessarily encourage people to buy them preseason. I just think people buy preseason just so they do not have to worry about it during the season. We also often get requests for people who buy their passes during the season and want a discount since the season has already started. So this will then be easier for our staff to know and administer. Rorar: So there’s no “early bird” special? Simons: Correct. So with that, we also kind of tried to restructure rates to make them a little easier to understand and explain. And then, also adding a charge for every other person on the membership. As it stands right now, they only went to 4 people and then after that, everyone else was free. With this we’re trying to restructure how we judge a household and recoup that money on those people who have more in their household. So what we did for the restructure was we took the rate for the one pass and then for the second pass we added half onto it and then every other pass beyond that we added $30 and then each additional pass would be $30 per resident. For non-residents, our first pass would be $150, added 50% for the second pass taking it to $225 and then from there we added $50 per person. So when we do that a household would be anyone living at the same address regardless of age or familial relationship. What that does then is to allow people to include their grandparents that live in the household or adult siblings or adult children that live in the household. All of those people could be on that one membership rather than having them get their own membership. Because we’re also trying to get our annual members at the Rec to join Maca and vice versa, we did change the annual membership discount from $10 total to $10 per membership so if you have a Rec Center membership and a Maca membership, you’ll get that $10 off of each. If Dan and I were in the same household and both had memberships, right now as it stands, we would only get $10 off but with this change, we would get $20 off which I think is fair especially since we will be charging for every person in the household. So that is the membership portion of it. Part of the reason to go to the discount the way we’ve proposed, is then I can write that into the fees and the fee codes for the pool so it will automatically deduct and we don’t have to worry about our staff trying to remember to do that. The fee restructuring will also allow us to better track our membership sales and how many people are buying and all that kind of stuff. Right now it’s kind of a convoluted way that we have to sell these and it does not allow us the ability to track it as easily. So do you want to discuss this now or do you want me to go on to the daily admissions? -5- Mayor: So how did it go this year selling memberships only? Simons: I think it was very well received. But we will not ever make a profit on the pool if we continue that way. While it was well received for the most part, I think that if we continue that way we’re going to have to have the pool subsidized especially in years when it needs manned. Mayor: I know people really loved it out there this year because we didn’t sell daily admissions. Unless we raise the rates a lot more than when we had the daily admissions. Simons: Yes, you are exactly correct. If we wanted to eliminate the daily admissions we’d have to raise the rates significantly to the point where I’m not sure people would want to pay them or we’d have to agree that we’d subsidize the pool at a higher rate. There are years where the pool actually makes money at the end of the year so it makes me reluctant to subsidize it. Rorar: I can’t see Mollie’s face during this discussion. Gilbride: It’s everlasting. We either subsidize the pool with taxpayer dollars or . . . Simons: I know that Council would like the Rec Center to cover its operating costs but I would assume that their feeling would be the same on Maca so I would be reluctant to get into a position where we would have to subsidize it. Gilbride: Well, I would say as a resident who does not go to the pool or buy a pass, my daughter wanted to go swimming for her birthday and I couldn’t go to Maca for a day and take another few of her non-resident friends swimming for her birthday because we’re not even letting residents come in on a daily pass. There’s fewer and fewer of these facilities available and for us to introduce . . . maybe the pool would be a non-resident’s first introduction to our city and then they hear about our Rec Center . . . and then they think about living here. I think we should take the opportunity to share the community with others and that’s my opinion. Simons: I 100% agree. Mayor: What about the grandparents coming for the day? Raber: It used to be a $1 and that’s on the daily admission part and I really don’t like not having a guest past for a member. And I don’t like the idea of having a differential between the resident and the non-resident. I don’t think that is going to be received very well. Simons: The reason we took it in that direction is because that was where the big slowdown was in processing the daily admission passes because they had to be checked and verified in order to get the resident rate. They’d have to bring their driver’s license, or a pay stub, in order to verify their residency for us to be able to sell them a daily admission fee pass at the resident rate. It caused a lot of slowdowns, anger and issues if they didn’t have those documents so if we get to just taking people’s word for it . . . Gilbride: I think it will also cause honesty issues . . . I know we tried to think about what the high school did with the digital ticketing. How do you control other . . . they’re going to have to put in an address but . . . if we’re trying to move to more of a digital environment for those . . . Simons: And we are and what we’re doing with Community All Stars and what we plan to do with this as well, is to not force you to have an account with us in order to purchase it online because that makes it so much easier and more seamless that I’m to do that so if they don’t have an account with us, there’s no way for us to go in and verify residents and non-residents. They put in their address but then we have to have someone taking the time to go through and audit the information and how do you come back on them and charge them the difference in the fees and all of that. So that is why we went to just the one fee structure for the ease of our staff as well as for purchasing those things online. Rorar: It gets pretty convoluted in my opinion at that phase, I think the benefit – being a resident – is getting -6- your membership and that’s the perk. If you want a daily pass, do I care if somebody’s a resident or not? Not really – but I’m just talking about me. Mayor: The members that are there want us to keep it just for residents. Raber: So we’ve just finished a year with only members and now we’re going to reintroduce the daily admission when half of that is going to . . . I don’t know . . . That’s one thing, I definitely think though for the pass incentive, you’ve got to keep the guest pass. Salerno: So now we’re adding an additional fee structure for resident and non-resident so we’re looking at a variety across the board in . . . (indistinguishable) Gilbride: You’re coming in and you’re with a member or you’re not and that’s easy. Salerno: But now to open it up to an unlimited amount of guests per person, they can bring as many guests as they want and then people might be out in the parking lot and say to you, “hey, can I come in as your guest”? and you get back into kind of a mock-up for the fees. Raber: Here’s the thing though. It’s been like that since “the dawn of time”. So while I get that we want things to be smoother, that’s ok but it’s going to be a rub for those who’ve been members for a long time and we’re going to get people who are not happy about that. Rorar: So it’s a catch. We’re worried about a lot of the daily admissions coming in, but at the end of the day if we increase the price, it’s still offered so they can pay the price and come in. Simons: Just for comparison’s sake, as far as memberships go, in 2019 we were only about 100 more resident numbers than non-resident numbers. In 2021 it was about 400 more resident members than non-residents. Today we can’t track the resident/non-resident numbers because we only sold the guest admissions but in 2019 our non- resident daily admissions were twice as much as our daily resident admissions. So clearly we are getting a lot of non-residents. At the same time we have to remember, it’s either us or Water Works and those are the only two places you can go because all of these other places are shutting down. So I think we still need to make Maca accessible for people who want to go somewhere and maybe we do raise the daily admission rates since it is the majority non-residents that come in on those. If we just charge one fee, let’s just charge the higher fee and the residents will still have at least 2 weeks to purchase passes before non-residents can. We could also go higher with the non-resident membership rates as well. Rorar: Up to what? 50% right? It’s a 2 to 1 right? Simons: Yes, you’re right so we can’t go higher there. Rorar: Well you could, because you could go to 200 right? Simons: Oh yes, so we could go higher on those non-resident rates. We can go higher on the daily admission fees and just kind of direct residents to purchase memberships instead of paying the daily admission fees. Raber: Well I do think we incentivize people if . . . even last year – in a normal year, I would have to go 10 times to make it be worth my while and I’m not doing that. Rorar: Let’s look at that $12 rate and I’d have to go 8 times right? Raber: Right. I guess you could say you saved money or came out even if I only go . . . Rorar: So pump it up . . . Raber: Maybe that’s part of it. Rorar: So instead of $12 you go to $15 and now that’s 6 visits. Raber: Yes, I mean that’s a lot of money – at some point you have to . . . Mayor: I can tell you that Council will want a non-resident rate. Raber: I agree, it’s an exercise in futility . . . Mayor: I realize it’s a struggle on you guys but . . . we need the non- residents to support the pool because our residents do not. Simons: Correct. Rorar: But can’t we make the argument that as a property owner, and let’s say I pay the high-end of the $7,000 tax, which I don’t but let’s just say I was that guy because there -7- were a couple of them, that’s $640 for the city out of my property tax. Really? I’m getting police, fire, roads and we’re going to worry about the non-resident rate because I’m paying $640 to the city? I know what you’re saying but I’m not paying that much property tax towards the parks anyways. I’ll bring that up – it’s 8 cents out of every tax dollar that the city gets so what percentage of that 8 cents comes to the parks? Mayor: Keep in mind what we do here is just a recommendation, because council will want to tweak it anyway. Rorar: They’re not going to like any of it. Simons: I can come up with a back-up recommendation as well for that if we need to. Mayor: We can make it $10, $15 and keep it at $5 for someone over 60. Rorar: I think that would be good. Simons: If they want the resident, non-resident fees for the daily admissions then they will have to be prepared to hear all those complaints again about those long lines of people waiting to get their addresses identified. Salerno: And if it fails, if we do it, it will just be up to their honest word. Simons: It just can’t be both ways right now. Mayor: I make a motion to accept the proposed Maca Pool rates with the adjustments to daily admissions to $10 and $15, keeping the age 60 and up at $5; seconded by Raber. I still think you’re going to get a lot of feedback from not having a guest pass for a member. So I pay all this money and then I don’t have a cheaper guest pass? Simons: That is something that will be as difficult to enact as it would be to do resident, non-resident. Because they do come in through that admission line regardless, even if they’re paying a higher rate. And if we did want to sell those online, we could have it set up so that you’d have to log into an account as a member, and purchase the guest pass online through your account. Mayor: Could we do that so if you have a current membership you can bring up to 2 guests at $5 a person? Simons: You mean just a flat rate? Mayor: Yes. So Megan’s daughter wants to bring in a friend, she pays $5 because Megan, as a passholder, is already committed to the pool for the year. Just make it that a current member can bring up to 2 guests at $5 each. Simons: But make it a member/guest rate of $5? I’m fine with that. Mayor: And you’ll have to find a place in the grid for it . . . It’s just not fair to have Megan’s daughter bring in a friend at $15, and that’s a lot to ask because the passholder would probably end up paying for it. Raber: We’re looking at people who are members might just come for an hour or two where the people for daily admissions will be there on a Saturday or Sunday all day so it’s worthwhile for them to pay the higher fee but not for the member. Simons: I agree. I think the $5 fee per guest (up to 2) would be good. Raber: So do you want to withdraw your motion? Mayor: I modify my motion to add that stipulation to the motion; seconded by Raber. Vote to approve: 6/0. Moving Swim Lessons From Council Grid to Program Grid: Simons: This is just kind of an organizational thing. Right now swim lessons are in that Council Grid but they’re more of a program and a membership or anything like that. I am proposing we move that from the Council Grid over to the Program Grid. I think it makes more sense and also allows us to be more flexible with our fees when the costs go up. Raber: So we would just have a notation on the current grid that it has been moved to the Program Grid and we’d vote on it for initial approval. Simons: Yes. Raber: I move for this change; seconded by Gilbride. Vote to approve: 6/0. Other: Raber: I have some concern with regard to “the holiday thing” and the Covid protocols. We have that senior citizen dance that’s coming up in December and obviously when we were -8- planning it obviously in the summertime, everything seemed hunky dory but now even though the numbers are coming down slightly, with Halloween and Thanksgiving coming we will probably seem them go up again. I just wonder what we might need to do for protocol. It is my understanding that the Chamber at their homecoming thing is going to require proof of vaccination or a negative test. I don’t know if we want to go there with that but I’m just throwing it out there because it’s October and I think we should be thinking about those kind of things. Simons: We can definitely do that. I was under the impression that we weren’t allowed to do those things but I would be fine with that and I think those coming would be fine as well. Raber: I think if you’re in charge of an individual program that they’re electing to come to, you might make it a little bit different. Simons: Ok, we can definitely do that and we’ll send out to the people who have already registered too. Raber: How’s the registration going? Simons: It’s still a little slow. We still have time, and if we’re going to do that, we should do it now. Mayor: I think we have to do it, with the Chamber doing it in November and our event being in December. And then Rotary is trying to figure out how to do their Reverse Raffle which is also a big event and they are even considering doing a “virtual event” like we did last year. Raber: I’m not sure exactly what we want to do, I just know we need to do something. Simons: I think people would probably prefer the proof of vaccine or negative test as opposed to masking. Because you’re going to be at a table, and eating and it would just probably make people feel a lot more comfortable. So because we haven’t sold too many tickets so far, it would not be difficult for us to enact it now. Monthly Reports TRC Membership Report: Simons: I am encouraged by our membership report. We’re getting to the point where in 2020 our membership numbers were skewed after we opened because of the extensions and suspensions that we issued to people. But our memberships are up now, specifically the monthly memberships which is a good sign that people are definitely coming back. And really the child blue memberships are due in large part to the fact that I think last year we were only allowing kids aged 16 and over into the facility so we do have that younger group walking over from the school. I am encouraged to see these numbers going up, specifically because when the non-insurance-based memberships go up it is always a good sign because those are the ones that people are actually coming in and paying for. For them to be up especially considering how many people age into Medicare every single day, because I know we do lose some of our non-insurance-based memberships when people age into Medicare, Silver Sneakers, and that kind of stuff. We’ll always see some of that but for all of those numbers to be up is awfully encouraging to us. I think we’re headed in the right direction. TRC Financial Report: Gilbride: The September report clearly shows that we’re not back to where we were in 2019 but clearly we note that we’re still under some of the pandemic protocols and not getting back to previous numbers is to be expected. Memberships while going up, are still down from 2019 levels. I think the Silver Sneakers, while still coming back are doing so at a slower rate. Overall, expenses, while we made 17% over last year, have kind of reached over where we are now – ahead of where we were last year, but that’s mainly just due to salaries and -9- being closed for a significant portion of 2019. All our operating expenses are down from last year. Mayor: But it seems to be trending in the right way. Simons: Definitely. The numbers for 2020 are still going to be higher because we did have two of our busiest months. We were completely open all of January, February and half of March, so I think that’s part of the reason why the 2020 membership revenue continues to be more because for that same time period this year, while we were busier and beginning to pick up, we were still considerably lower than 2020 because of all the pandemic concerns still with us during this particular time of the year. But I think it will rebound now with more people getting the vaccine and returning to more normal activity. TRC Donation Request Report: Enos: We did get one donation request since our last meeting in July to Steere Enterprises for their “Annual United Way Event”. Mayor: Great! Raber: One more thing, we have to have an effective date for these changes. I personally think that we should incentivize people to join. Mollie and I discussed that maybe the way to do it is to have the rates kept at the lower rate in January and even through February, and then have a February 15th or March effective date for these increases to take place. So maybe we don’t even introduce these to Council until the November, December or January meeting? Simons: The only thing I will say for the Maca rates is, I would like those to go into effect by January 15th because that’s when we start selling the passes and people will start asking what the prices are. As far as the Rec rates go, Mollie and I have talked about that too and I think it’s a good idea to not have them go into effect until February 1st at the earliest, just to encourage people to purchase memberships in January and sign up for the whole year at the lower rate. Mayor: So when would you submit the legislation? Raber: Well you would wait to submit it at first reading for the November meeting, the 2nd in December and then adopt it at the January meeting. Mayor: And it will say effective day for the top half of the Rec Center would be March or whatever date you pick. Maca’s increases could be done the same way. You’re not going to be opening the pool then but you could start selling passes and let them know there will be an increase effective . . . Raber: Yes it makes more sense to me to do them both the same way, so what date do you want? Simons: I would like to do February 1st I think, if they’re going to be the same. Enos: That would give me enough time to talk to my staff and train them (after the holidays and stuff) at the first of the new year. Simons: Is that ok with everybody? All agree. Raber: I move to approve February 1, 2022 as the effective date for the increased rates for the items under “New Business” that we’ve discussed; seconded by Salerno. Vote to approve: 6/0. Schools Athletic Director Bill Johnson: I would just like to say on behalf of the schools and the athletic department, we appreciate your accommodation for Friday football game parking. I’ve also been working with Jessica on our winter schedule for using the courts for our wheelchair team and our freshman basketball team, so just wanted to say thank you for all your support and help with that. Simons: You’re very welcome. Mayor: We appreciate working with you as well! Adjournment: The meeting was adjourned at 10:48 a.m. Minutes electronically provided to Dan Enos on October 28, 2021/km