City Council
Regular MeetingTaylorsville, UT · September 14, 2011
Minutes
Taylorsville City Council Work Session Minutes
September 14 2011
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City of Taylorsville
Work Session
Minutes
Wednesday September 14 2011
Council Chambers
2600 West Taylorsville Blvd Room No 140
Taylorsville Utah 84129
Attendance
Mayor Russ Wall
Council Members City Staff
Chairman Jerry Rechtenbach John Inch Morgan City Administrator
Chairman
Vice Larry Johnson John Brems City Attorney
Council Member Dama Barbour 1 Peacock Cottle City Recorder
Chery
Council Member Morris Pratt Jessica Springer Council Coordinator
Del Craig Chief of Police
Mark McGrath Community Development Director
John Taylor City Engineer
Scott Harrington Chief of Finance
Donald Adams Economic Development Director
Patrick Tomasino Building Official
Tracy Wyant Police Sergeant
Scott McMahon Code Enforcement Officer
Jean Ashby Admin Asst to Economic Dev
Excused Council Member Bud Catlin
Others Israel Grossman Kristie Overson Ernest Burgess Jim Dunnigan John Gidney Donna
Drecksel Dave Ballou Daryl Gudmundson
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Chairman Jerry Rechtenbach called the Work Session to order at 0
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pand welcomed those
in attendance City Recorder Cheryl Peacock Cottle conducted a Roll Call wherein all Council
Members were present
1 Discussion Regarding Fireworks Jim Dunnigan Jay Ziolkowski
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50 Chairman Rechtenbach expressed concern over the new Fireworks Law and how it
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affects homeowners in Taylorsville
20 Representative Jim Dunnigan explained that the new law came about after a meeting
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with the County Fire Chief regarding the possibility of changing the law after contemplation it
was decided that there are many of the larger fireworks that Utah does not want the public to use
Representative Dunnigan noted that the only firework that was deemed of lesser risk was the
Aerial Repeater which is designed to lose all heat before it hits the ground Representative
Dunnigan also confirmed that bottle rockets are still illegal in Utah however the majority of
fires and injuries this firework season were from illegal bottle rockets He stated that bottle
rockets cannot be purchased in Utah so people go to nearby states for purchase
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03 Council Member Barbour stated concern over the long time period that fireworks are
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allowed to be used She cited issues with noise and nuisance Representative Dunnigan
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acknowledged that the new law states that fireworks may be set off from July 1 through July
27 which is three days before the first holiday and three days after the second holiday He said
that most stands in Taylorsville close down during the two weeks between these holidays
31 Chairman Rechtenbach asked whether the goal of the bill to capture revenue going to
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nearby states is being seen in reality Representative Dunnigan answered that additional revenue
is definitely being seen all over the state for the Aerial Repeaters that aze now allowed by law
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29 Council Member Johnson questioned Chief Del Craig about the number of tickets that
were given out for fireworks during the fireworks season Chief Craig relayed that the number
of calls has doubled Chief Craig stated he didn
t currently have exact numbers on tickets and
fines that were generated but agreed to get that information to Council Member Johnson
48 Chairman Rechtenbach expressed concern over an increase this year in seemingly
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more high powered fireworks Representative Dunnigan answered that legislation is currently
being drafted to introduce proposed changes to the time of day when fireworks can be
discharged He explained that this was not included originally because the State wanted to leave
it up to local governments however it has now been decided that this should be uniform
throughout the State
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27Representative Dunnigan pointed out that local government is not allowed to restrict
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the types of fireworks that can be sold as that is determined at the state level He explained that
the local government can impose certain restrictions through its noise ordinance
51 Council Member Johnson referred to Taylorsville Dayzz and the fact that it is
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becoming so large He questioned whether there is enough manpower in place to handle the
increase Representative Dunnigan expressed his appreciation of the question and stated that
efforts are being made in several areas to increase manpower for the event He confirmed that the
City and the Taylorsville Dayzz Committee would like to keep Taylorsville Dayzz afamily
friendly event
20Council Member Pratt asked about changing expiration dates for leave time of officers
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so that they are not pressed to use leave time or lose it during Taylorsville Dayzz City
Administrator John Inch Morgan responded that this is something that the City is looking into as
well as various other options to increase police presence at the event Council Member Pratt
pointed out that if Taylorsville Dayzz is now a 401c3 the officers should be able to be paid out of
the Taylorsville Dayzz event budget Mr Morgan answered that this is one of the areas the City
is investigating
13 Representative Dunnigan explained that Taylorsville Dayzz is largely funded by the
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City however there has been an increase in sponsors which helps to offset City costs along with
revenue from booth rentals
25 Council Member Barbour stated that it is her belief that no matter what happens there
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will be people who purchase illegal fireworks She suggested that this is still something that the
City needs to monitor
2 Discussion Regarding the Proposed Ordinance 11
13 Abatement of Weeds
Garbage and Refuse Public Nuisances and Illegal Objects and Structures
John Inch Morgan
09City Administrator John Inch Morgan explained that he would like to handle this
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agenda item in three parts beginning with Code s
Enforcement presentation of the largest areas
of concern in the City
Code Enforcement Officer Scott McMahon addressed the Council regarding vacant homes in
Taylorsville Office McMahon explained that the problem Code Enforcement is having is
keeping vacant homes in compliance He noted that most of the properties have been taken by
the bank and the previous owners are under the impression that they do not have to maintain the
property since they were basically evicted He relayed that the banks are not taking responsibility
because they don
t have legal ownership
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Officer McMahon presented pictures of some ofthe worst vacant lot offenders in Taylorsville
02 Chairman Rechtenbach expressed concern regarding the process for getting people to
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comply before the City takes action and incurs the expense of cleaning up the property
17 Council Member Barbour asked about the 15
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are ever paid
49 Council Member Johnson referenced bench warrants as a means of collecting on fines
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City Attorney John Brems responded that the City has problems getting speeders and other
offenders to pay fines let alone collecting for weed abatement
00 Council Member Bazbour questioned the fiming involved and referenced criminal
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events that sometimes take years to process Sergeant Tracy Wyant clarified that the City used
to do this through a criminal process but has now simplified the process by hiring an
Administrative Law Judge
39 City Attorney John Brems stated that the bottom line is that there is no great way to
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solve some of these property neglect issues He outlined four ways that nuisances are pursued
1 City cleans up the process which is the ordinance before the council this evening this is an
amended ordinance because the Legislature changed the law in 2011 2 Address nuisances
through a criminal process which is what the City used to do and it didn
t seem to work very
well 3 Process through the s City Administrative Law Judge ALJ an administrative
proceeding where the homeowner is fined but the fine doesn
tnecessarily have the same clout as
a
judgment since it is purely administrative and 4 Pursue Civil Action which can turn into a
judgment
Council Member Johnson asked about wage garnishments and whether that is an option Mr
Brems stated that it is possible as with any debt however it takes time to get to that step
04 Chairman Rechtenbach asked for clazification on whether one action taken nullifies
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future action with regards to garnishments and liens Mr Brems explained that if ajudgment is
obtained and properly docketed it becomes a lien on the real property He said that the City can
also pursue collection of the judgment through other means e
i garnishment taking bank
accounts etc
47 John Brems confirmed that the civil process can eventually lead to demolition of the
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offending house Chairman Rechtenbach inquired where the funds come from to pay for a house
demolition Mayor Wall relayed that the funds for the recent demolition came out of community
clean funds He cited a need for discussion on this issue because the City cannot continue to
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pull from funds that are not available He said the City also cannot continue to do nothing
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because doing nothing kills neighborhoods He noted that residents are expecting the City to deal
with these issues The Mayor observed that the examples being shown tonight aze extreme cases
and are not typical He stated that the process in place under the Administrative Law Judge has
been working the majority ofthe time
04 Council Members continued to discuss the various options available to the City and the
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best options for collecting from the worst cases
07 City Attorney John Brems outlined Ordinance No 11
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previous ordinance and how these changes will affect Taylorsville and the current Code
Enforcement process Mr Brems explained that the proposed ordinance enacts the provisions
under the new law that was passed in 2011 prior to the new law the process was that the City
cleaned up the property the property owner was then given notice to pay if payment was not
received then it was escalated to the County the County held a hearing to determine if the
amount owed is the proper amount and eventually the amount was put on the owner
sproperty
taxes He clarified that the new process means the City cleans up the property the property
owner is given notice the City holds the hearing regarding the amount due the
County is
notified and it becomes a lien on the real property He acknowledged that the new law is
basically just putting in place the hearing that must take place in the City under the old law it
took place in the County He said that it also allows potential for a property lien versus a
property tax increase
30 John Brems asked for direction regarding Ordinance 11
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like Administration to proceed Council Member Pratt asked about the definition of noxious
weeds Mr Brems explained that the State statute doesn
tdefine noxious weeds so Code
Enforcement has been using the State agricultural definition for enforcement Mr Brems stated
that the definition of noxious weeds can always be added into this ordinance
44 City Administrator John Inch Morgan suggested that in a future meeting there be
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further discussion regazding how the City funds the upkeep on neglected properties Chairman
Rechtenbach agreed that this issomething that needs to be addressed so that Administration and
the Council have the same philosophy
28 Mayor Wall pointed out that the results the City is seeing with its two Code
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Enforcement officers are tremendous the City has fewer problem areas now than it did
previously because of the phenomenal job the Code Enforcement Department is currently doing
He noted that the examples cited tonight are extreme cases only
39 Council Member Barbour agreed that the Code Enforcement officers are making a
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difference in the City
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05 Council Member Johnson reiterated that the City should only be using the demolition
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of houses as an absolute last option
3 Discussion Regarding Chapter 11 of the Proposed Land Development Code
Mark McGrath
08 Community Development Director Mark McGrath called for discussion regarding
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guest houses in Taylorsville
30 Council Member Barbour expressed concern that adopting Chapter 11 means that any
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15 could become an 15
R1 R2 which means that there could be two living units on every R1
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lot Chairman Rechtenbach responded that the ordinance allows either a guest house an
accessory apartment or an extended living structure the property owner could not have all of the
above He made clarification regarding separate buildings sepazate families and density issues
45 Council Member Pratt stated that the limitation needs to be in the size of the guest
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house in relation to the house He suggested that the guest house should be in proportion to the
primary home Chairman Rechtenbach agreed that limiting the size would limit the intensity
37 Council Member Barbour expressed concern about limiting the size in relation to the
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main house and said that this could still allow a large guest house Council Member Pratt
answered that it may be too large for a guest house but an accessory apartment in a basement
would be the same size as the footprint of the house
29 Mazk McGrath suggested postponing Section Two
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Accessory Structures because in
review there are some revisions that need to be made with regards to redundant language
30 Council Member Pratt and Chairman Rechtenbach asked for clarification on possible
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issues identified in Section Two that Mr McGrath could look at as revisions are done on this
chapter
50 Chairman Rechtenbach clarified that the pages regarding chicken coops could be
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deleted and that section could reference the current City animal ordinance with regard to
chickens
36 Council Member Johnson asked fox clarification regarding kennels and outdoor animal
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structures and whether kennels refer to multiple dogs Economic Development Director Donald
Adams clarified that this is in reference to a dog run with a dog house and not a commercial
kennel
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26 Mr McGrath referenced the section on Home Occupations
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been changed
20 Council Member Pratt questioned whether a tow truck driver who brings a tow truck
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home is considered to be running a business out of his home Mr McGrath answered that there
are stipulations on the size of the vehicle and where the truck can be pazked if it is associated
with a business
36 Chairman Rechtenbach asked about Section Five regarding manufactured homes and
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called for clarification as to why two car garages are required if they aze not required on single
family homes Mr McGrath answered that single family homes are actually now also being
required to have a two car garage He explained that the intent of this requirement is to keep
neighborhoods clean and orderly
16 Council Member Pratt asked about the Habitat for Humanity Home and whether it will
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be required to have a two car garage Chairman Rechtenbach answered that following
discussion with neighbors of the home it will have a two car garage
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19 Mr McGrath explained that the City is allowed to limit Habitat for Humanity
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facilities within a certain radius however Fair Housing has questioned this practice He relayed
that the State does let the City decide the limitations of placing the facilities however currently
no City has legislated this because ofthe legal questions doing so could cause He said
Taylorsville has not addressed radius limitations in the current code because of how questionable
it is and the potential for lawsuits if limitations are included
29 Mark McGrath stated that this azea of the code has very few changes as there was a
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study done years ago that found that Taylorsville is in close compliance with the State Fair
Housing Act
31 Council Member Johnson asked about a section previously reviewed Home
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Occupation and the possibility of including a miscellaneous category in case the current list
tinclude something that comes up in the future Mr McGrath agreed to make that
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change
28 Chairman Rechtenbach then asked about page 24 section 8 regarding half
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in residential districts and the large amount of detail that is included He inquired why this didn
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fall under building permits Mr McGrath stated that there has been some problem with this in
Taylorsville He noted that Sandy City has also has some issues with this and found it helpful for
the section to be large and detailed Mr Adams added that it is now more restrictive and is based
on the history found in surrounding communities
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06 Council Member Johnson asked about private swimming pools and the size restrictions
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with regards to openings in surrounding fences and gates Mark McGrath stated that this size
restriction will be changed
48 Council Member Barbour inquired about the distance requirement for Bed and
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Breakfast facilities and if the requirements are the same in a historical district Mr McGrath
stated that there can be an exception built in for a historic district Council Member Bazbour
asked if running a Bed and Breakfast is in compliance with the current ordinance and whether
they should be allowed Mr McGrath stated that the restrictions are based on impact to the
neighborhood and there has never been an issue in Taylorsville
01 Chairman Rechtenbach asked about Charter Schools and which category they would
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fall under John Brems stated that it is a good idea to add Charter Schools to this definition
39 Council Member Pratt referenced Farmers Markets and the size requirements
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specifically relating to the Garden Club He noted that based on this restriction the Garden
Club space is larger than the requirement He suggested making this size requirement larger
Mr Adams agreed and stated that more research will be done so this doesn
t end up preventing
Community Gardens from being able to hold Farmers Markets
25 Council Member Johnson asked about the section on roadside vendors
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regulations regarding food stands He asked how long they can be at acertain location before
reapplying Council Member Johnson stated concern about the potential for food vendors to
become a nuisance if set up for a long period of time Mr Adams stated that this issue is further
addressed in an upcoming section
10 Chairman Rechtenbach asked about parking for church facilities in regazd to street
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parking restrictions Council Member Barbour noted that most churches in Taylorsville do not
currently have enough parking Mr McGrath responded that the street parking stipulation is
mostly intended to help the impact of cars in neighborhoods He agreed that this is something
that is necessary for churches so the sentence will be removed Council Member Pratt
mentioned that safety issues can still be addressed without the curbs being striped
58 Council Member Johnson asked about
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garage sales and how many are allowed at each
residence per year Mr McGrath stated that this requirement is being changed to two garage
sales allowed per
year at each residence
56 Chairman Rechtenbach asked about street vendors and what qualifies as a street
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vendor He stated that he believes the language is a bit nebulous John Inch Morgan answered
that this is covered by permissions that are needed by business owners who own the parking lots
in question
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32 Council Member Johnson asked if there is anything in place to protect established
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paying from competing with street vendors Mark McGrath answered
property tax businesses
that there are distance restrictions in place
15 Council Member Johnson asked whether nearby residents have a voice in deciding
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whether a food stand will be allowed near their homes Mark McGrath answered that public
input is welcome and citizens can always express their concerns Council Member Pratt
suggested a separation standard for residential properties and street vendors Mr McGrath
responded that a standard of 200 feet would be added into the language
53 Chairman Rechtenbach addressed Mobile Businesses and how the cleanliness of the
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area
applies to a catering truck Mr McGrath said that this speaks to garbage cans being
available for people to dispose of trash generated from the business Council Member Johnson
asked about the catering truck that used to be in front of Furniture Warehouse and the fact that it
t truly mobile He questioned whether that is in fact allowed Mr McGrath answered that
wasn
they were not in compliance and were actually ticketed
52 The Council and Administration discussed additional questions regarding language
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and redundancy in the current chapter Mr McGrath addressed each issue and assured the
Council that the appropriate changes would be made
16 Chairman Rechtenbach called for further discussion on this section and there was
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none
36 City Recorder Cheryl Cottle reminded the Council about the Board of Canvassers
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Meeting scheduled for Tuesday September 20 2011 at 0 6 0m p in the City Council Chambers
She stated that the purpose of the meeting is to certify election results
4 Adjournment
Council Member Dama Barbour MOVED to adjourn the City Council Work Session Council
Member Morris Pratt SECONDED the motion Chairman Rechtenbach called for discussion
There being none he called for a vote The vote was as follows
Catlin Barbour
excused yes
yes Johnson
Rechtenbach yes and Pratt
yes All City Council members voted in favor and
the otion
nl passed imously
ugai Theneeting was adjourned at 3
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p
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Minutes approved CC 11
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