City Council
Regular MeetingTroy, NY · October 11, 2016
Minutes
Minutes of the
Public Safety Committee Meeting
Troy City Council
Tuesday, October 11, 2016 - 6:00pm
Called to Order at 6:03 p.m.
Committee Members Present: Chairperson Kim Ashe-McPherson, Councilman Dean Bodnar, Council Member Erin
Sullivan-Teta, Council Member John Donohue, Council Member Mark McGrath and Chief Garrett. Absent: Chief
Tedesco. Other Council Members Present: Council President Mantello, Council Member Gulli Council Member Kopka
and Council Member Doherty.
Council Member Ashe-McPherson states we are here to discuss the proposed UFA Contract agreement.
Council Member McGrath asked for the proposed contract. Chief Garrett stated the contract is ratified and there
is a proposed memo of agreement. Council Member McGrath asks for an overview and asks about the “me, too”
clause. McGrath further states that if this contract passes the Chief and approximately 30 chiefs of staff will get
a 5% raise. Chief Garrett states if we go into Executive Session we can better explain. Mark Robarge, the
Record newspapers, states he objects to the committee going to Executive Session due to the fact that there is
already a ratified contract existing. Ken Crowe, Times Union, objects, too. Bryan Goldberger, attorney for UFA
strongly advised that topics on strategy should be held in Executive session.
Ashe-McPherson asks who was involved in the bargaining of the contract. McGrath responds, the bargaining
unit of the UFA, the City bargaining unit, the Mayor, the Deputy Mayor, Corporation Counsel and Bryan
Goldberger. Ashe McPherson states she has asked for previous contracts and to date has not received them. She
asks for the fiscal impact and Mantello states it is $325,000. Deputy Comptroller Piotrowski states the salary
impact for 2017 is $238,000. McGrath states that in three years that’s roughly $1,000,000. Upon the discussion
of adding personnel Deputy Comptroller Piotrowski states that the following number of positions will be added:
2 for 2017, 0-2018, for 2019, 2 for 2010 and 2 for 2020. Mantello states all are positions are good for two years
and on the third year then we pay. Deputy Comptroller Piotrowski states that is correct. Ashe-McPherson notes
that 81 firefighters live in Troy. Bodnar asks for an overview. Goldberger responds that there are four years of
$0 salary increases, there is an addition of a new step, EMT stipend and a continuation of the no layoff clause.
Sullivan-Teta asks for an explanation of the no layoff clause. Goldberger responds that the clause originated in
the mid 1990’s by the advisory board and the dates have been modified and further discussion regarding the
modification have to be discussed in Executive session. McGrath asks Chief Garrett if it is a requirement to be a
firefighter in Troy you must be an EMT? Chief states that you must be a paramedic before getting hired.
McGrath states we have a 28.9% tax levy and the alternative is that we may have to go to arbitration. Chief
states that why we need to go into Executive session. McGrath states this is very serious and Chief again states
that’s why we would like to go into Executive session. McGrath says he is not sure why because we are talking
about strategy and if we take this to the simplest form it’s about what’s right and what’s wrong, we are looking
at a 28% tax increase and I can’t add to that. McGrath further states that it’s not about them doing their job it’s
about bad timing. Sullivan-Teta asks if there is a cost associated with arbitration. Goldberger states, yes.
After discussion the Committee votes to go to Executive Session with a vote 4 yes (Ashe-McPherson, Donohue,
Bodnar, Sullivan-Teta, 1 no McGrath.
The Committee returns from Executive session at 7:35 pm
As there is no resolution for this meeting it is decided that a resolution will go to the Finance committee.
Bodnar makes a motion, 2nd Sullivan-Teta to move this to the Finance committee. On the vote to move this to
Finance Donohue, Bodnar and Sullivan-Teta Yes, Ashe-McPherson, McGrath No.
The meeting was adjourned at 7:40pm.
Agenda
TROY CITY COUNCIL
PUBLIC SAFETY STANDING COMMITTEE AGENDA
TUESDAY, October 11, 2016
6:00 pm
Pledge
Roll Call
Public Safety Committee
Chair Kim Ashe-McPherson – Council Members Mark McGrath, Dean Bodnar, John
Donohue, Erin Sullivan-Teta, Chief Tedesco and Chief Garrett
1. Review the U.F.A. Contract
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