City Council
Regular MeetingTroy, NY · April 21, 2022
Minutes
Minutes of the
TROY CITY COUNCIL
FINANCE MEETING
April 21, 2022
6:30 P.M.
The meeting was called to order at 6:43 p.m. by Council President Mantello.
Roll Call: The roll being called, the following answered to their names: Council Member Gulli,
Council Member Ashe-McPherson, Council Member Steele, Council Member Menn, Council
Member Conley-Wilson, Council Member Sorriento, Council President Mantello, Chair.
In attendance were Mayor Patrick Madden, Deputy Mayor Chris Nolin, Corporation Counsel
Richard T. Morrissey, Comptroller Andrew Piotrowski, City Engineer Aaron Vera,
Commissioner of Planning & Economic Development Steven Strichman Approximately 8
members of the public attended.
Public Forum:
• Bill Walsh
• Patrick Lafortune
• Jessica Bennett
• Mickey Dobbin
• Dara Silberman
• David Banks
16. Ordinance Amending The Fund Balance Policy Of The City Of Troy’s General Fund
(Council President Mantello) (At The Request Of The Administration)
Ordinance passed 7 ayes, 0 nos, 0 abstentions.
17. Ordinance Amending The Capital Projects Fund And Water Fund Budgets (Council
President Mantello) (At The Request Of The Administration)
Ordinance passed 7 ayes, 0 nos, 0 abstentions.
18. Ordinance Authorizing And Approving The Filing Of The City Of Troy's Application
For Funding Pursuant To The Housing And Community Development Act Of 1974, The
Mckinney Act Emergency Shelter Grant Program, And The Home Investment
Partnership Program, And Designating The Mayor As The Authorized Representative Of
The City For Such Purposes (Council President Mantello) (At The Request Of The
Administration)
Ordinance passed 7 ayes, 0 nos, 0 abstentions.
19. Ordinance Transferring Funds Within The 2022 Water Fund Budget (Council
President Mantello) (At The Request Of The Administration)
Ordinance passed 7 ayes, 0 nos, 0 abstentions.
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20. Ordinance Appropriating Funding From The General Fund Capital Reserve For The
Purpose Of Making Improvements To The Department Of Public Works’ Facilities And
Amending The General Fund And Capital Projects Fund Budgets To Appropriate Such
Funding (Council President Mantello) (At The Request Of The Administration)
Ordinance passed 7 ayes, 0 nos, 0 abstentions.
49. Resolution Endorsing A Community Development Block Grant-Cv Funding
Application By Unity House Of Troy, Inc., To Be Awarded By NYS Homes And
Community Renewal (Council President Mantello)
Resolution passed 7 ayes, 0 nos, 0 abstentions.
50. Resolution Authorizing The Mayor To Submit The City Of Troy’s Annual One Year
Action Plan Of The Five Year Strategic Consolidated Plan To The U. S. Department Of
Housing And Urban Development (Council President Mantello) (At The Request Of The
Administration)
Resolution passed 7 ayes, 0 nos, 0 abstentions.
51. Resolution Authorizing The Mayor To Enter Into An Agreement With Grassland
Equipment And Irrigation Corp. For The Purchase Of A New Ventrac 4500 Series Mower
Under The Sourcewell Consortium Toro Company Contract #0321121-Ttc (Council
President Mantello) (At The Request Of The Administration)
Resolution passed 7 ayes, 0 nos, 0 abstentions.
52. Resolution Authorizing The Mayor To Enter Into An Agreement With Altec Industries,
Inc. For The Purchase Of A New Aerial Lift Truck Under The Sourcewell Consortium
Altec Contract #012418-Alt And The New York State Ogs Contract #Pc68526 (Council
President Mantello) (At The Request Of The Administration)
Resolution passed 7 ayes, 0 nos, 0 abstentions.
53. Resolution Authorizing The Mayor To Enter Into An Agreement With Eagle Wireless
Communications, Llc, For The Purchase Of Fifteen Geotab Geolocating Devices And A
One Year Subscription For Data Services Under The Sourcewell Consortium Geotab
Contract #020221-Geo (Council President Mantello) (At The Request Of The
Administration)
Resolution passed 7 ayes, 0 nos, 0 abstentions.
54. Resolution Authorizing The Mayor To Enter Into An Agreement With Shi
International Corp. For The Purchase Of Civic Plus Government Content Management
Software And Associated Product And Service Package Under The Sourcewell Consortium
Shi Contract #081419-Shi (Council President Mantello) (At The Request Of The
Administration)
Resolution passed 7 ayes, 0 nos, 0 abstentions.
55. Resolution Of Lead Agency Pursuant To The New York State Environmental Quality
Review Act Declaring Whether A Proposed Amendment To The City Of Troy Zoning Map
Changing The Zoning Classification Of Property Known As 1011 Second Avenue, Tax
Parcel Number 70.64-1-1, From “R-1” Single Family Residential To “P” Planned
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Development Will Have Significant Adverse Impacts On The Environment (Council
Member Gulli)
Resolution passed 7 ayes, 0 nos, 0 abstentions.
56. Resolution Of The Troy City Council Scheduling A Public Hearing To Be Held In
Connection With The Proposed Zoning Change Of 1011 Second Avenue From “R-1”
Single Family Residential District To “P” Planned Development District (Council Member
Gulli)
Resolution passed 7 ayes, 0 nos, 0 abstentions.
Adjournment
The meeting adjourned at 8:55 p.m.
A video recording of this meeting is on file at the City Clerk's office.
An audio recording of this meeting is on file at the City Clerk's office.
Audio and video recordings of this meeting are on file at the City Clerk's office.
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From: Friends of the Mahicantuck
To: All City Council Members; citycouncil; Carmella.Mantello; Patrick.Madden; Maria.DeBonis
Subject: Submission to the Record: Determination of Significance - Council Finance Committee Meeting 4/21/2022
Date: Thursday, April 21, 2022 3:31:57 PM
Dear President Carmella Mantello
Dear Troy City Council,
Regarding:
55. Resolution Of Lead Agency Pursuant To The New York State
Environmental Quality Review Act Declaring Whether A Proposed
Amendment To The City Of Troy Zoning Map Changing The Zoning
Classification Of Property Known As 1011 Second Avenue, Tax Parcel
Number 70.64-1-1, From “R-1” Single Family Residential To “P” Planned
Development Will Have Significant Adverse Impacts On The Environment
(Council Member Gulli)
56. Resolution Of The Troy City Council Scheduling A Public Hearing To Be
Held In Connection With The Proposed Zoning Change Of 1011 Second
Avenue From “R-1” Single Family Residential District To “P” Planned
Development District (Council Member Gulli)
Please add this email and all attached documents to the public record of the meeting and
the SEQR for 1011 2nd Avenue.
In response to the Draft Determination of Significance, we want to emphasize that the
Negative Declaration is not justified and that instead a Positive Declaration is required.
While we will provide further analysis in the future, we want to draw your immediate
attention to the following dramatic flaws in your analysis as provided in this draft:
The analysis does not address the significant deviation from the allowable density
and building height in the proposed new zoning, setting a negative precedent for
future zoning decisions that undermines the powers of the council to require
applications to be consistent with its zoning code, with significant potential negative
impacts on the powers of the council.
These discrepancies are also not addressed in the analysis of negative impacts
related to the consistency with community plans and are in conflict with the
assessment that there are no negative impacts to the community character and
dominating surrounding land uses.
Not all documents submitted by the public, including our organization, were published
on the City website contrary to what is stated in the draft determination. This includes
ecological studies and other relevant reports and submissions. We therefore assume
that those documents and letters submitted to the record were not considered in the
analysis. This is additionally supported by the fact that they are not addressed in the
analysis.
No analysis for impacts of the proposed boat dock as part of the proposed action is
provided at all, with significant negative impacts related to that proposed element of
the action submitted to the record in the past.
"Future mitigation measures" are used to justify no negative impacts to be given.
Future plans that do not exist presently do not qualify as mitigation measures. The
determination also makes references to future designs and plans throughout the
analysis, yet future (and therefore not presently existing) design and plans are not
sufficient mitigation measures for the identified significant negative impacts. This
includes the impacts on archaeological resources for which no detail mitigation plans
are provided.
The analysis does repeatedly not use the current state of the site as frame of
reference in its analysis, resulting in wrong results of the analysis.
Future climate change risks, including for the erosion control plan and the wastewater
treatment plan have not been considered.
Potentially significant negative impacts identified by a February letter from
Rensselaer County to the City of Troy in connection to this project were not
addressed, and the associated potentially significant negative impacts are not
analyzed, such as the absence of boring to fully evaluate ripability.
The impacts on view shed and aesthetic analysis ignore extensive analysis on the
contrast to the surrounding uses and site use, as well as provided studies detailing
the impacts on property values and gentrification.
Significant negative impacts associated with the loss of ecosystem services were not
analyzed despite significant elements of the record detailing such impacts.
The analysis does not consider the potential significant negative impacts associated
with an established informal use of a recreational and open space resource located in
From: Friends of the Mahicantuck
To: All City Council Members; citycouncil; Carmella.Mantello; Patrick.Madden; Maria.DeBonis
Subject: Re: Submission to the Record: Determination of Significance - Council Finance Committee Meeting 4/21/2022
Date: Thursday, April 21, 2022 3:44:31 PM
Dear President Carmella Mantello
Dear Troy City Council,
Regarding:
55. Resolution Of Lead Agency Pursuant To The New York State
Environmental Quality Review Act Declaring Whether A Proposed
Amendment To The City Of Troy Zoning Map Changing The Zoning
Classification Of Property Known As 1011 Second Avenue, Tax Parcel
Number 70.64-1-1, From “R-1” Single Family Residential To “P” Planned
Development Will Have Significant Adverse Impacts On The Environment
(Council Member Gulli)
56. Resolution Of The Troy City Council Scheduling A Public Hearing To Be
Held In Connection With The Proposed Zoning Change Of 1011 Second
Avenue From “R-1” Single Family Residential District To “P” Planned
Development District (Council Member Gulli)
Please add this email and all attached documents to the public record of the meeting and
the SEQR for 1011 2nd Avenue.
It is our understanding that the initially posted agenda did not include the above listed
resolution, as initially posted. Rather, the amendment to include above agenda items was
potentially posted outside the minimum notice time period. We therefore raise the concern
that this meeting was not properly noticed.
We also raise the potential that the Finance Committee may not be the appropriate
committee for this vote, as its jurisdiction on this matter is not evident - at least not to our
group. In addition, we want to inquire by what process and at what time this matter was
referred to the committee and request documentation of that referral.
We therefore raise the potential that the Finance Committee is not the appropriate
committee to hold this vote and rather the Planning Committee would be the appropriate
committee.
We therefore hold that the vote today is inappropriate due to potential procedural and
jurisdictional issues, at the very least however there was not sufficient time for meaningful
public participation provided.
This is particularly the case, as we want to draw your attention to the public statements by
Council President and members of the council that the public will have the opportunity for
public input in a separate workshop prior to a determination of significance, as was also
included in the public notice for the last Council Workshop on this matter last month. This
means that it can be assumed that the public was awaiting a notice for a workshop and not
the consideration of the issue in the Finance Committee, where that committees jurisdiction
is not readily clear in the first place.
This means that the public had not the same participation rights in your decision making as
the applicant, and we see our rights and the general public’s right for a fair process of
participation violated. How come that the applicant is allowed to provide comment during
workshops prior to the Determination of Significance being formulated by a Council work
group, yet the public does not? Applicant and general public are supposed to have the
same rights of public participation.
We therefore urge you to strike the two agenda items no 55 and 56 from today’s agenda,
refer it to the Planning Committee, provide a public workshop prior to the committee
meeting, and revise the current draft determination of significance to reflect the publics
input during such a workshop prior to committee referral.
Sincerely,
Friends of the Mahicantuck
a designated Potential Environmental Justice Area.
No analysis of pedestrian safety and neighborhood safety from the significant
increase in population density was provided despite existing submissions to the
record on the matter.
The assessment that there is no sharp contrast with surrounding land use patterns is
incorrect, as evidenced by extensive submissions to the record. The same is the case
for the analysis of Comprehensive Plan consistencies, for which an extensive record
with evidence to the contrary exists.
Impacts associated with gentrification dynamics, future climate risks and their
exacerbation through ecosystem services loss, and other significant impacts have not
been addressed at all in the analysis despite extensive submission to the record.
Most importantly, several potentially significant negative impacts have been recorded and
submitted to the record yet were not analyzed. Submissions were made by - amongst
others - members of the public testifying to the negative impacts on the local community
character, by Scenic Hudson, Riverkepper, Sierra Club, members of Indigenous Nations,
and our organization.
As only one potential significant negative impact is needed for a positive declaration, and
as there is a presumption under law that an EIS is likely required for a type I action, and
several potential significant negative impacts were identified in the record,
the City Council must issue a positive declaration,
an EIS is required, and due to high public interest
we request a 90 day public scoping period with public hearings.
Sincerely,
The Friends of the Mahicantuck.
April 21, 2022
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