Budget & Finance Committee
Regular MeetingTumwater, WA · January 24, 2025
Minutes
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CONVENE: 12:09 p.m.
PRESENT: Acting Chair & Councilmember Eileen Swarthout and Councilmembers
Peter Agabi and Michael Althauser.
Excused: Chair/Mayor Debbie Sullivan.
Staff: City Administrator Lisa Parks, City Attorney Karen Kirkpatrick,
Finance Director Troy Niemeyer, and Deputy Finance Director Shelly
Carter.
Councilmember Swarthout volunteered to serve as Chair in the absence
of Mayor Sullivan.
CHANGES TO Item 5, Review Scope of Work for Financial Planning Consultant was
AGENDA: moved as the first item of consideration.
REVIEW SCOPE OF City Administrator Parks introduced Morgan Shook, Director of
WORK FOR ECOnorthwest. As discussed throughout the budget process last year,
FINANCIAL financial planning was acknowledged as an important project and is a
PLANNING component necessary to update the City’s Strategic Priorities and Goals,
CONSULTANT: as well as framing future community surveys. The review covers the
scope of work for the financial planning consultant, ECOnorthwest.
Mr. Shook reported ECOnorthwest is a 50-year old economics finance
firm providing a range of services. He serves as the Director and is one
of the owners of the company. Major areas of financial focus for cities
include cost of service, e.g. police and fire services, revenue and
economic forecasting, revenue strategies and policies, and infrastructure
funding and finance. The scope of work supports the City in developing
an analytical tool that represents the City as a financial enterprise and
enables different financial strategies under a series of different
scenarios. The City will use the tool during annual long-term planning.
The financial tool is intended to engage departments, senior leadership,
and the Council in identifying ways to deliver robust and effective
services to the residents of the City while identifying any implications
of those services. Scenario planning enables evaluating priorities and
outcomes to ensure the City is well informed as it makes choices to
engage constituents and making decisions on current and future budgets.
Councilmember Althauser asked about the nexus of financial planning
with planning, land use, and policies or whether the scope is limited to
the internal operations of the City such as efficiencies and sources of
revenue. Mr. Shook explained the importance of the relationship of the
tax base in terms of how the state has structured tax policy such as the
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property tax increase limit of 1% while allowing taxes from new
construction and retail activity. The tool is intended to answer questions
on different taxing scenarios.
City Administrator Parks added that the work completed on the update
of the Comprehensive Plan is also connected to the financial and
strategic planning efforts. In the context of land use planning under the
Growth Management Act, comprehensive planning specifically
addresses capital facilities. Mr. Shook is a certified AICP Planner in
addition to his biochemical engineering education and experience.
City Administrator Parks outlined the timeline of the project. The first
task is a project kick-off meeting during the upcoming management
team meeting. The second task focuses on the budget assessment and
financial analysis with a goal to produce a draft prior to releasing a
community survey. Mr. Shook’s technical work will focus on the long-
term development of the fiscal modeling tool. The tool will not be a
proprietary software tool but will be a tool that consolidates all
information from various sources for condensation and presentation to
the Council during retreat sessions over the year to test some scenarios
during discussions to update strategic goals and priorities. The goal is
to create a framework, tools, and some systems to assist the Council in
rendering well-informed, technically solid, and fiscally responsible
decisions on priorities moving forward.
Councilmember Althauser commented on the importance of the process
to demonstrate how the Council considered all viable options within a
report form for transparency to the community.
City Administrator Parks advised that the contract with ECOnorthwest
is within the delegated signing authority of the Mayor and the City
Administrator. The contract has been negotiated with a briefing to the
Council scheduled prior to releasing the community survey.
Councilmember Althauser asked that the process consider feedback
from the Council that might inform survey questions.
Discussion ensued on possible formats for updating the Council on
progress. Acting Chair Swarthout recommended conveying information
as part of Friday updates to the Council.
PASS THROUGH OF Director Niemeyer reported that as the City continues implementation of
CREDIT CARD the new ERP system, one option is utilizing Tyler Technologies
FEES: payment system. Of focus throughout the implementation of the system
was agreement by staff to utilize the system fully by taking advantage of
the system’s full capability rather than pursuing workarounds to align
with current City business practices. The Tyler payment system serves
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as the credit card processing application used at City Hall for customers
paying utility and development fees by credit card. The Tyler system is
somewhat more expensive that current credit card merchant fees. The
request is to receive some direction after a review of the pros and cons.
Currently, the City absorbs all credit card fees at a cost of approximately
$250,000 annually for utility payments. The cost is included within the
utility rates with all customers assuming the cost of the fees within
utility rates. Staff recommends an equitable process by passing the fees
to customers paying by credit card.
The City also absorbs credit card fees for permitting and other
development fees. The City imposes a cap of $1,500 on credit card
payments because development fees and building permit fees are much
higher than utility payments. Additionally, the option of charging credit
card fees for the full cost of development fees would likely please many
customers. However, customers would continue to retain the option of
paying by check as well.
Currently, the City offers a variety of ways to pay for services. The new
system enables more options, such as payment by e-check from a
checking account at a cost of $1 for each transaction, which staff
proposes the City absorb rather than passing the fee to the customer.
Another option in addition to cash or check, are other online payment
options that do not incur any additional fees. Staff believes it is possible
to save $250,000 because the new system provides numerous payment
options.
Deputy Director Carter suggested considering auto pay customers and
not passing fees as customers have the option of using a bank account or
a credit card.
City Administrator Parks advised of the importance of briefing the
committee on a decision to change the process and the reasons for
considering a change.
City Attorney Kirkpatrick verified that the change is an administrative
function but represents a change in policy that should be considered by
the Council prior to implementation by staff.
Acting Chair Swarthout asked for a breakdown of the different payment
options and associated costs for each payment method.
Director Niemeyer advised that dependent upon any decision for credit
card fees, staff plans to implement the Tyler system for cashiering and
credit card processing. The question is whether the City continues to
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absorb credit card fees, which would be more than current costs, or pass
the costs to customers paying by credit card.
Acting Chair Swarthout commented that it is unfortunate the new
system is charging higher fees than other vendors. She asked how the
vendor justifies the cost. Director Niemeyer said staff projects the fees
to increase by approximately $10,000 to $12,000 annually. However
the increase is dependent on the method of payment. A credit card
transaction includes merchant fees to VISA and Mastercard and a small
percentage to Tyler Technologies for utilization of the system.
Advantages to the City are easier reconciliation of daily payments,
easier reporting and deposits, and economic benefits to the City through
an integrated system. The c-check option is available either online or
in-person at a cost of $1. Fees vary in amount with staff projecting an
increase in fees if the City continues to absorb fees.
City Administrator Parks said the fees are initiated through the credit
card companies. The City encourages customers to pay online as well
as receiving utility bills online while providing options for payments
that do not incur any pass through fees. For customers electing to use
the convenience of a credit card, staff recommends passing the fees to
the customer. Many other utility companies pass those fees to
customers. The City is providing customers with choices rather than
mandates.
Councilmember Althauser asked whether staff has considered offering
an incentive program for customers to link payments to bank accounts,
as the option is less expensive to both the customer and the City. He
suggested offering a sign-up program for direct payment to bank
accounts with a $5 credit on a utility bill, as the transaction fee is
generally less at $1 per transaction.
Director Niemeyer said the City provides a $5 incentive to customers to
sign up for e-bills but has not offered a similar incentive for direct pay
from a bank account. Direct payment from a bank account incurs no
additional fees.
City Administrator Parks recommended presenting the information to
the Council outlining the alternatives, costs, and fees the City plans to
pass on to customers or absorbed by the City.
Acting Chair Swarthout expressed concerns involving the security of
customer bank account information. Deputy Director Carter noted that
the City currently has enrolled many customers in auto pay using bank
accounts as the form of payment. The ways of payment would not
necessarily change under the proposal, only the fees that are assessed.
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Tyler Technologies serves as an independent merchant service company
and assesses fees for the service.
Many contractors are requesting the ability to charge costs to credit
cards as the Community Development Department has limited charges
to $1,500. Many contractors prefer to use credit cards and have
indicated no problems with paying the fees.
Director Niemeyer added that another option is enabling Community
Development to pass the fees to the development community but
continue absorbing fees for utilities. Tyler Technologies does not
charge the City a monthly charge for the software. Alternatively, the
company charges additional fees through payment transactions.
Implementation of the new system would cost the City an additional
$10,000 to $12,000 annually for credit card and merchant fees.
Councilmember Agabi said he is not supportive of the new system
unless the Tyler Technologies provides additional services to the City.
He questioned the benefits to the City of not incurring an annual fee for
utilization of the new system.
City Administrator Parks said it is uncertain whether the City has an
option of paying a monthly subscription fee versus collection of credit
card fees.
Director Niemeyer affirmed the options are not available to the City as
the software program serves as a source of income to the company.
Councilmember Agabi conveyed concerns as the City recently increased
utility rates and is proposing a ballot measure to continue the sales tax
increase for transportation. The City should consider ways to lessen the
impact.
City Administrator Parks concurred as the conversation has focused on
those aspects. Staff has identified that if the City passes the fees to
customers, there are many other options for customers to pay online or
digitally that do not incur a fee. Another message similar to the
messaging for the Transportation Benefit District measure is the
importance for all people using the roads to contribute to road
maintenance and not just residents who live in the City. The proposal is
essentially a user fee that is currently absorbed by the City at a cost of
$250,000 annually just for utilities. That cost is allocated to all
customers with many not using the credit card payment option.
Councilmember Agabi pointed out that fees and taxes are often
confused by many in the community leading to false assumptions,
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which speaks to the importance of clear messaging to the community
spelling out the cost to the City each year for credit card processing
while informing the community that they have other options.
City Administrator Parks affirmed the City would develop appropriate
campaign messaging recognizing that some people likely would not
understand or choose not to understand the issue. The message to the
community is the availability of multiple options to pay utility bills in
the City of Tumwater and that some options will be at an additional
charge. The communications strategy will include a breakdown of fees
associated with each payment option.
UTILITY Director Niemeyer reported that implementation of the increase in
ASSISTANCE utility tax included a review of the City’s utility assistance programs.
PROGRAM UPDATE: Staff identified a list of 294 individuals who may qualify for the Lifeline
Program. The Lifeline Program provides a 50% discount on utility bills
based on income status.
Any discount program creates a budgetary impact. If those individuals
qualified and enrolled, utility revenue would be reduced by $21,021 per
month or $252,000 annually. At the time of the research, staff assumed
many more people would qualify for the program but did not anticipate
the large number of people who might qualify. The Lifeline Program
has the same criteria as Thurston County’s discount for property tax. If
an individual qualifies for reduced property tax through Thurston
County, they are considered eligible to enroll in the City’s Utility
Lifeline Program.
Discussion ensued on whether renters versus homeowners could also
qualify for the program. Thurston County’s program includes single-
family owners as well as owners of duplexes or fourplexes.
City Administrator Parks pointed out that the Council and staff
committed to pursuing outreach to the community to increase awareness
of the program. Staff plans to pursue outreach and developed a process.
However, for transparency, the effort will create a budgetary impact.
Another promise was evaluating the program and applicability. The
information will help inform potential options for different program
alternatives for utility payment assistance in the context of the cost of
service analysis in progress by a utility consultant that includes equity
and affordability components.
Acting Chair Swarthout referred to a GIS tool utilized by the City of
Tacoma that targets different areas in the city to provide more thorough
information on needs for different types of information or programs.
The issue is complex as it is likely the 294 individuals identified by staff
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live throughout the City and not in just one area of the City.
ADJOURNMENT: With there being no further business, Acting Chair Swarthout
adjourned the meeting at 1:16 p.m.
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Agenda
BUDGET & FINANCE COMMITTEE
MEETING AGENDA
Online via Zoom and In Person at
Tumwater City Hall, Council Conference
Room, 555 Israel Rd. SW, Tumwater, WA
98501
Friday, January 24, 2025
12:00 PM
1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call
3. Pass Through of Credit Card Fees (Finance Department)
4. Utility Assistance Program Update (Finance Department)
5. Review Scope of Work for Financial Planning Consultant (Executive Department)
6. Additional Items
7. Adjourn
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