Budget & Finance Committee
Regular MeetingTumwater, WA · February 28, 2025
Minutes
TUMWATER BUDGET & FINANCE COMMITTEE
MINUTES OF VIRTUAL MEETING
FEBRUARY 28, 2025 Page 1
CONVENE: 12:02 p.m.
PRESENT: Chair/Mayor Debbie Sullivan and Councilmembers Eileen Swarthout and
Peter Agabi.
Excused: Councilmember Michael Althauser.
Staff: City Administrator Lisa Parks, Assistant City Administrator Kelly
Adams, City Attorney Karen Kirkpatrick, Finance Director Troy Niemeyer,
Fire Chief Brian Hurley, and Deputy Finance Director Shelly Carter.
APPROVAL OF
MINUTES:
BUDGET &
FINANCE
COMMITTEE,
AUGUST 21, 2024 &
JANUARY 24, 2025:
MOTION: Councilmember Agabi moved, seconded by Chair Sullivan, to approve
the minutes of August 21, 2024 and January 24, 2025 as presented. A
voice vote approved the motion unanimously.
YEAR-TO-DATE Director Niemeyer provided an update on the status of the budget.
BUDGET UPDATE:
The budget document includes all revenues and expenses for the entire City
represented in 2,000 line items. The City’s financial system does not
support a biennial budget, with the budget reflected in the system as two,
one-year budgets.
Revenue for year-to-date 2025 for property tax is approximately $10
million+; however, year-to-date reflects $38,000 in property tax revenue
essentially because property taxes are due in April and November 2025 with
some received earlier dependent upon how property owners pay their
respective taxes. The funds are received by the City when Thurston County
collects the taxes. Property tax revenue is a stable source of funds and more
predictable than other forms of revenue. To normalize reporting of property
tax, the budget reflects the total amount of anticipated property tax divided
by 12 with each month reflecting some revenue from property tax.
Essentially, at the end of February, the forecasted amount is 16.7% of the
total amount. Actual year-to-date property tax is 16.28%.
A similar exercise was completed for sales tax revenue, which is less
predictable than property tax. Lag times exist in the collection of sales tax.
The City received some sales tax for January 2025, typically one of the
lowest months for sales tax collections because of less spending following
TUMWATER BUDGET & FINANCE COMMITTEE
MINUTES OF VIRTUAL MEETING
FEBRUARY 28, 2025 Page 2
the holiday season. Staff prorated sales tax reporting, as the City has not
received February sales tax from Thurston County.
Councilmember Agabi asked whether the forecast of sales tax revenue of
approximately $11 million is factored on historical trends. Director
Niemeyer said the figure represents the projected budget for sales tax
revenue for 2025. Councilmember Agabi asked about the actual amounts of
sales tax revenue in 2024 or 2023. Director Niemeyer affirmed staff could
provide the figures for context after the meeting. Councilmember Agabi
asked about the possibility of collecting less than the forecast and potential
impacts to the City. Director Niemeyer explained that when projections are
estimated for sales tax and other revenue sources, staff reviews historical
data and past and current trends. The information is used to inform the next
biennium budget. Additionally, expectations on a strong economy, a
recession, or a flat economy are all assumptions factored in the forecast for
revenue sources. Staff monitors sales tax activity because it is a major
source of revenue to the City. Sales tax can be volatile and the City may
not meet its sales tax projection. If monitoring reveals a decrease in sales
tax, the City can make any necessary adjustments to the budget.
City Administrator Parks added that the Finance Department developed a
complicated and extensive projection spreadsheet that includes a series of
factors that could affect revenue forecasts. The spreadsheet factors previous
years of data and statewide and national economic trends. Should the City
experience a shortfall, staff reduces expenses. Adoption of the budget
provides staff with the authority to purchase; however, staff also monitors
revenue especially during this time of uncertainty regarding the economy.
Director Niemeyer added that the President’s current political agenda, if
approved for certain elements, is inflationary in nature. The imposition of
tariffs will create inflation. Deporting workers in construction, trades, and
hospitality will cause inflation.
Councilmember Swarthout agreed with the sense of nervousness as the City
has committed to hiring staff and she was looking forward to a positive
year. She is concerned today as to how the City will be able to move
forward and achieve the goals established by the Council.
Chair Sullivan noted that the purpose of the budget update is to enable the
committee to track the status of the budget on an ongoing basis rather than
as needed.
Councilmember Agabi pointed out that the state is considering a reduction
in FTEs. He asked about any back-up plan of a FTE reduction in the event
the economy begins to suffer.
TUMWATER BUDGET & FINANCE COMMITTEE
MINUTES OF VIRTUAL MEETING
FEBRUARY 28, 2025 Page 3
City Administrator Parks replied that the state’s budget is much different
than the City’s budget in terms of personnel needs. The City is
experiencing a lack of capacity to perform the work required of the City and
to meet community expectations. Of the positions added in the last budget,
funding sources have been identified to assist in funding the positions in
addition to general fund revenue. Of the 33 new positions, approximately
seven of the positions are funded from the general fund. Additionally,
vacancies exist within the number of approved FTEs through attrition and
retirements. Salary savings in 2024 because of unfilled positions totaled
$2.5 million. Staff will strive to reduce costs through other avenues rather
than pursuing savings through the reduction of FTEs.
Director Niemeyer reported the general fund is on track with the budget
forecast. However, some situations outside the control of the City often
occur. One example is the issuance of a building permit in late 2024 for the
Secretary of State of approximately $1 million in revenue. Since then, the
Secretary of State withdrew its permit with the City issuing a refund of 80%
of that amount. Within the Community Development Department under
building permits, the budget-to-date reflects a negative amount of $759,000
in revenue, which skews the budget and does not reflect that actual building
permit revenue remains on track. Staff plans to adjust the 2024 budget to
accrue the refund to ensure the refund is offset in the same year as it was
credited. Other revenue sources are on track with expenditures in the
general fund reflecting a lower amount (salary savings due to timing of
February payroll).
Director Niemeyer reviewed proprietary funds of Utilities and Golf Course
funds to date. The Water Fund reflects 1.78% of revenue and expenditures
of 1.73% to date. However, the budget forecast includes $25 million in
capital costs for the Maintenance and Operations Facility and the Water
Storage Tank project, which have not moved forward. Both revenue and
expenses for those projects are not reflected in the year-to-date figures. A
similar scenario exists for the Sewer Fund. The Golf Course fund reflects
revenues and expenses below the forecast because of the seasonal nature of
golf with January and February revenue collection less than other months.
Employment City Administrator Parks advised that the issue of employment agreements
Agreements: was raised with the advent of creating the new Information Technology
Director position and because of different employment agreements executed
over many years for director positions. The City created 10 director
positions of which seven have employment agreements and three directors
have no agreement. The new IT Director also does not have an
employment agreement. During a review with City Attorney Kirkpatrick,
all existing employment agreements were reviewed for the development of
a template agreement. The proposal is for approval of the template and
authority to the Mayor to execute the employment agreement as new
TUMWATER BUDGET & FINANCE COMMITTEE
MINUTES OF VIRTUAL MEETING
FEBRUARY 28, 2025 Page 4
directors are hired over time, as well as reviewing existing employment
agreements and replacing the agreements with the new template agreement
for consistency of all director positions.
Several substantive changes include the sections on the term of the
agreement. Most existing agreements include language that establishes a
three-year term with a provision that the agreement can continue beyond the
end date. The issue is the inclusion of an end date if the provisions of the
agreement can lapse beyond the end date. The proposal is consistent with
public sector employment expectations that the employment is at will and
that the agreement is for an indefinite term subject to different separation or
termination provisions in the agreement.
The second substantive change is within the section on separation and
termination. The proposal removes when and how termination or
separation would occur. Different situations and scenarios would be
included. The agreement would include provisions for disabled employees
unable to perform duties or when an employee elects to leave employment.
The agreement enables the City to terminate an employee for cause.
Provisions within the agreement define “cause.” The agreement also
addresses the ability to terminate an employment relationship with an
employee for other reasons, such as the City no longer wishing to fill the
position. In those cases, the employee would receive a severance package.
The timeline for a severance package varies from two, four, or six months.
The proposal is to standardize the severance package for a period of six
months. Severance packages, agreements, and provisions are typical in an
employment contract. All existing employment contracts include severance
provisions. The proposal provides the employee with a measure of a safety
net if the decision is made to terminate the employee for other reasons other
than for cause.
City Administrator Parks added that the agreement was standardized to the
extent possible for all director positions.
If the committee approves moving the proposal to the City Council, staff
requests placing the proposal on the March 18, 2025 City Council meeting
agenda rather than the March 4, 2025 City Council meeting as requested in
the staff report to afford time to brief the Council on the proposal.
Councilmember Agabi asked whether an employee who is advised of a
pending termination would be provided an opportunity to correct the
problem(s) leading to the termination. City Administrator Parks advised
that any decision would be at the option of the Mayor or the City
Administrator.
Chair Sullivan said there is a difference between cause and performance
TUMWATER BUDGET & FINANCE COMMITTEE
MINUTES OF VIRTUAL MEETING
FEBRUARY 28, 2025 Page 5
issues. The agreement protects directors from unlawful discharge. An
example is the City of Pacific in which the newly elected Mayor began
discharging directors and locking employees from City Hall. The
agreement provides some level of protection from a similar situation.
Councilmember Swarthout agreed with placing the proposal under Council
Considerations for transparency and providing an opportunity for the
Council to provide input.
City Administrator Parks described the Mayor’s authority to hire and fire
for director positions; however, the Council’s authority is associated with
the employment contract. Three positions require the Council’s
confirmation (City Administrator, City Attorney, and Finance Director).
Those three positions must be confirmed by the City Council. The proposal
is only for the employment agreement similar to other existing contractual
situations whereby the Council approved the template and delegated the
authority to implement actions.
MOTION: Councilmember Agabi moved, seconded by Councilmember
Swarthout, to place the Department Director Employment Agreement
Template on the March 18 2025 City Council Consideration Calendar
with a recommendation to approve and authorize the Mayor to sign
employment agreements with current and future directors in
substantially similar form consistent with adopted City policies as
approved by the City Attorney. A voice vote approved the motion
unanimously.
ADDITIONAL There were no additional items.
ITEMS:
ADJOURNMENT: With there being no further business, Chair Sullivan adjourned the
meeting at 12:50 p.m.
Prepared by Valerie L. Gow, Recording Secretary/President
Puget Sound Meeting Services, psmsoly@earthlink.net
Agenda
BUDGET & FINANCE COMMITTEE
MEETING AGENDA
Online via Zoom and In Person at
Tumwater City Hall, Council Conference
Room, 555 Israel Rd. SW, Tumwater, WA
98501
Friday, February 28, 2025
12:00 PM
1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call
3. Approval of Minutes: Budget & Finance Committee, August 21, 2024 & January 24, 2025
4. Year-to-date budget update (Finance Department)
5. Employment Agreements (Executive Department)
6. Additional Items
7. Adjourn
Meeting Information
All committee members will be attending remotely. The public are welcome to attend in person, by
telephone or online via Zoom.
Watch Online
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/83348354102?pwd=zYzhX9v1WbmAvig2sCIH9yarTWBN7z.1
Listen by Telephone
Call (253) 215-8782, listen for the prompts and enter the Webinar ID 833 4835 4102 and Passcode
878184.
Public Comment
The public may submit comments by sending an email to council@ci.tumwater.wa.us, no later than
5:00 p.m. the day before the meeting. Comments are submitted directly to the Committee members
and will not be read individually into the record of the meeting.
Post Meeting
Video of this meeting will be recorded and posted on our City Meeting page: https://tumwater-
wa.municodemeetings.com.
Accommodations
The City of Tumwater takes pride in ensuring that people with disabilities are able to take part in, and
benefit from, the range of public programs, services, and activities offered by the City. To request an
accommodation or alternate format of communication, please contact the City’s ADA Coordinator
directly, call (360) 754-4129 or email ADACoordinator@ci.tumwater.wa.us. For vision or hearing
impaired services, please contact the Washington State Relay Services at 7-1-1 or 1-(800)-833-6384.
Get email alerts for Tumwater
A daily email when new agendas and minutes are posted.