Budget & Finance Committee
Regular MeetingTumwater, WA · May 23, 2025
Minutes
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CONVENE: 12:00 p.m.
PRESENT: Chair/Mayor Debbie Sullivan and Councilmembers Peter Agabi, Michael
Althauser, and Eileen Swarthout.
Staff: City Attorney Karen Kirkpatrick, Assistant City Administrator Kelly
Adams, Finance Director Troy Niemeyer, Water Resources & Sustainability
Department Director Dan Smith, and Senior Accountant Nissa Musselman.
APPROVAL OF
MINUTES:
BUDGET &
FINANCE
COMMITTEE,
APRIL 25, 2025:
MOTION: Councilmember Althauser moved, seconded by Councilmember Swarthout,
to approve the minutes of April 25, 2025 as presented. A voice vote approved
the motion.
MONTHLY Director Niemeyer provided an update on year-to-date financials beginning with
FINANCIAL the status of the national economy.
UPDATE:
Earlier in the year, the economy appeared to be on track much like early 2024 as
the City began working on the budget. Economic forecasts were positive and in
January 2025, the Federal Reserve raised short-term interest rates with the intent
of cooling off the economy to bring inflation down. The recession was avoided
and inflation was beginning to decline. Unemployment continued to be low and
the Federal Reserve began to cut rates after raising the rates over the last several
years. Continued strong economic growth was predicted and Wall Street was
excited about the new Administration.
Since April 2, 2025 when tariffs were announced, the stock market experienced
steep declines because of financial uncertainty across all financial markets and
no clear economic plan. In April and May, the economy experienced continued
change with tariffs changing up and down and uncertainty surrounding the
markets as well as consumer spending. Predictability and level expectations are
beneficial for the economy and markets. Tariffs and deportations are highly
inflationary policies and high inflation over the last several years leads to higher
interest rates that can discourage large purchases, such as homes and
automobiles.
In April 2025, USA Today Newspaper published how the economy was projected
to grow by 1.7% but actual was only 0.8%. The economy was expected to grow
by 2.5% in January 2025. A survey of economists now predicts approximately a
50% chance of recession. In February 2025, the prediction of a recession was
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only 25%. Several economists surveyed indicated tariffs are the cause of the
current economy.
Clear policies are important as the economy, consumers, and the markets want
certainty to make informed decisions. Opening, expanding existing business, or
closing a business all depend on some level of certainty. Today, the economy is
experiencing a period of continued uncertainty with tariffs continuing to change.
Although tariffs on China have been paused for 90 days, it speaks to the need for
more efforts. A recent news article spoke to supply change shortage as eminent
with ports less busy because tariffs are bringing in less products, which will affect
the economy. The uncertainty is how negatively it will affect the economy or
how long and how much prices will increase. Some companies are not using
“tariff” to avoid upsetting the Administration and have opted to refer to the
“operating environment.” However, tariffs are a tax that will cost people more
money.
During the COVID pandemic, inflation increased and companies blamed their
issues on supply chain and inflation while Wall Street corporations reported
record profits. When companies make record profits, it is just more than passing
on increased costs; many are greedy and are raising prices on the consumer more
than necessary. It is likely, that trend will continue as well in the current
environment.
Economic risks include passage of the budget bill as currently drafted. The
budget poses economic risks to Medicaid, cuts in some benefits, and an overall
negative effect on the economy. The national debt will increase by $3.3 trillion
over the next 10 years with Moody’s recently downgrading the nation’s credit
rating (first time in history). Foreign investors find U.S. debt less attractive and
riskier, which leads to higher rates. As borrowing rates increase, debt secured by
the City will increase in cost.
National polling reflects consumer confidence is down by 30%. The first quarter
GDP was negative by 0.3% (first time in 3 years that the nation had a negative
GDP). That corresponds with Tumwater’s April sales tax, which is the lowest in
the last three years. Unemployment has increased but continues to be steady.
The national debate speaks to stagflation, high inflation, and a shrinking
economy, which has not occurred since the late 1970s.
Director Niemeyer displayed some graphs produced by the University of
Michigan on consumer confidence and consumer sentiment. The graph reflects
monthly data for consumer confidence and sentiment. Early on in 2025,
consumer confidence dropped quickly. The graph includes a 10-year look-back
reflecting a dip between 2022 and 2023. However, the nation avoided a recession
and the nation course corrected. Consumer confidence has been tracked since
1960. The graph reflects when recessions occurred. Consumer confidence
typically dips during a recession. Another graph reflected consumer confidence
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related to job prospects. Current consumer surveys expect higher unemployment
moving forward.
Director Niemeyer reviewed Tumwater financial data. On a cash basis, a graph
reflected the City’s sales tax for 2023, 2024, and 2025 (month-to-month). The
City started the year with a small decrease of less than 2% in sales tax collection
but in February and March, sales tax collections increased to 4% and 6%,
respectively with April sales tax collections dipping under $700,000.
Optimistically, year-to-date reflects 2.66% over the 2024 collections. Staff will
continue to monitor sales tax activity. For the first quarter of 2025, sales tax
reflects a positive of 2.77%.
The public safety sales tax is a restricted source of funds for public safety
purposes. The sales tax is a new source of funds. The new tax was effective in
2024 with no long-term comparative data available. The budget forecasted
$900,000 with the first quarter actual reflecting 2025 collections of over $1
million.
Business and Occupation (B&O) Tax reflect a 6% increase in January, 5.7%
increase in February, a 10%+ increase in March, and a 5.5% increase in April.
May collections are less with several days remaining in May to receive
collections. Year-to-date reflects 7.5% in B&O taxes over last year’s collections.
Property tax collections occur in April and November. April receipts totaled $4.5
million or 45% of budgeted property tax. May property tax receipts have not
been received from Thurston County.
Conversations with colleagues in Thurston County, Lewis County, and Pierce
County reflect Tumwater’s sales tax collections are higher. Although sales tax
is becoming the City’s general fund revenue stream, the City is still less
dependent on sales tax compared to other jurisdictions.
Councilmember Althauser asked whether recent legislative changes to sales tax
and B&0 tax will result in greater returns in revenue for the City. Director
Niemeyer said he is uncertain as to how the recent changes will affect the City’s
budget. More information can be provided during the next update.
The City of Tumwater also has the advantage of steady employment with many
state workers in the Olympia and Tumwater areas. Additionally, the City
continues to grow both in residential and in businesses.
Councilmember Swarthout asked whether the City has utilized any of the public
safety revenue. Director Niemeyer said that the funds collected in 2024 were
deposited into a special account. The City plans to begin utilizing some of the
funds later in the year.
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Director Niemeyer addressed questions on sales tax collections in the City. The
City has a strong retail core and recently added some smaller retail businesses.
Discussion followed on the nation’s escalating debt with the Administration’s
proposal to increase debt by $3.3 trillion. National debt affects consumer
confidence to a degree, as well as consumer behavior.
BOND Director Niemeyer reported in August 2024, the committee received two
UNDERWRITER presentations from bond underwriting firms. The City is constructing two large
ENGAGEMENT capital projects, an Operations and Maintenance (O&M) Facility and a large
LETTER: water reservoir. Both projects are budgeted during the current biennium. The
O&M Facility is scheduled to begin construction in May 2026. The City plans
to move forward with financing for the project.
Last year, the committee discussed debt financing as a way to fund the large
projects. The cost of the project will be extended to coincide with the benefit.
Future users will also help fund debt service. Last August, staff interviewed two
firms. D.A. Davidson is recommended as the City’s underwriting firm. The City
has completed many debt financings through D.A. Davidson since 1991. The
firm is an employee-owned firm. The second firm was Hilltop Securities. The
company is based in Texas with a new Seattle office recently opened. Staff
recommends selection of D.A. Davidson. The company provided a bond
underwriting engagement letter that stipulates the City’s plans to work with the
company to afford the ability for the firm to provide staff with advice. Staff
recommends the committee place the engagement letter on the Council’s June 3,
2025 Consent Calendar with a recommended action to approve and authorize the
Mayor to sign.
CONSENSUS: The committee agreed unanimously to forward the engagement letter with
D.A. Davidson to the June 3, 2025 Consent Calendar with a recommended
action to approve and authorize the Mayor to sign.
ORDINANCE NO. City Attorney Kirkpatrick referred to the substitute ordinance in response to the
O2025-006-S1 committee’s conversation at the last meeting. She offered to answer questions
AMENDING TMC and requested direction on moving forward with the proposal.
2.14 EXECUTION
OF CONTRACTS The draft document within the staff report reflects the difference between the
AND OTHER original proposed ordinance and current draft ordinance. The original draft
LEGAL excluded grants and interlocal agreements that were below $100,000 from a
DOCUMENTS: Council review. The substitute ordinance does not include that exclusion with
interlocal agreements and grants requiring City Council approval regardless of
the amount with an exception for amendments that do not exceed the original
amount by more than 10% and are within an approved budget and consistent with
the underlying intent of the original agreement. “Amendment” was also added
to different sections to clarify that the Mayor had authority to sign amendments.
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Councilmember Althauser questioned whether the provisions stated in
subsection C also apply to B. City Attorney Kirkpatrick advised that subsection
C is separate from the provisions contained in B. Councilmember Althauser
asked about the possibility of the Mayor accepting or conveying property as
outlined in B without Council approval. City Attorney Kirkpatrick said that the
Mayor would be able to approve actions within the provisions as outlined, such
as approval of public works projects, or community development permitting,
such as dedications that are part of the permitting process, and temporary
construction easements and right of entries (most likely with public works
projects). The Mayor would need to comply with all other requirements of the
statutes.
Councilmember Althauser asked whether the Mayor would have the ability to
approve temporary road closures for construction. City Attorney Kirkpatrick
advised that such action requires approved by the Council. The proposed
provision applies to access to property.
City Attorney Kirkpatrick explained that the current proposal stipulates that
contracts over $100,000 need to be approved by the Council. The Mayor has
authority up to $100,000. Previously, the Mayor could delegate to directors up
to $50,000. However, the proposed language removes the $50,000 and allows
the Mayor to delegate up to the Mayor’s delegated authority of $100,000 to
directors.
Discussion ensued on the proposed changes. Councilmember Althauser
commented that the proposal creates some efficiency while still ensuring a
transparent process.
MOTION: Councilmember Althauser moved, seconded by Councilmember Agabi, to
place Ordinance No. O2025-006-S1 Amending TMC 2.14 Execution of
Contracts and Other Legal Documents on the June 3, 2025, City Council
Consideration Calendar with a recommendation to adopt. A voice vote
approved the motion unanimously.
ADJOURNMENT: With there being no further business, Chair Sullivan adjourned the meeting
at 12:55 p.m.
Prepared by Valerie L. Gow, Recording Secretary/President
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Agenda
BUDGET & FINANCE COMMITTEE
MEETING AGENDA
Online via Zoom and In Person at
Tumwater City Hall, Council Conference
Room, 555 Israel Rd. SW, Tumwater, WA
98501
Friday, May 23, 2025
12:00 PM
1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call
3. Approval of Minutes: Budget and Finance Committee, April 25, 2025
4. Monthly Financial Update (Finance Department)
5. Bond Underwriter Engagement Letter (Finance Department)
6. Ordinance No. O2025-006-S1 Amending TMC 2.14 Execution of Contracts and Other Legal
Documents (Executive Department)
7. Additional Items
8. Adjourn
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