City Council Work Session
Regular MeetingTumwater, WA · April 8, 2025
Minutes
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CONVENE: 6:00 p.m.
PRESENT: Mayor Debbie Sullivan and Councilmembers Peter Agabi, Michael
Althauser, Joan Cathey, Leatta Dahlhoff, Angela Jefferson, Eileen
Swarthout, and Kelly Von Holtz.
Staff: City Administrator Lisa Parks, City Attorney Karen Kirkpatrick,
Assistant City Administrator Kelly Adams, Finance Department Director
Troy Niemeyer, Fire Chief Brian Hurley, Community Development
Department Director Michael Matlock, IT Department Director Lance
Inman, Deputy Fire Chief Shawn Crimmins, and Deputy City Clerk
Tracie Core.
CITY ATTORNEY’S City Attorney Kirkpatrick reported the City Attorney's Office provides
OFFICE DEPARTMENT general counsel services for the City and advice and support to the
UPDATE: Council, the Mayor, all City employees, all special districts of the City,
and all boards and commissions. The City Attorney's Office includes
three FTE positions. An attorney position was approved in the budget
and is currently vacant. The incumbent recently left the City after a year
with the City. Staff is working with department directors to identify and
determine if the job position should be modified prior to recruitment for
the position.
Staff time is tracked by fund versus project. A majority of time is spent
on dispensing general advice and preparation representing 40% of the
total hours followed by reviews of contracts and purchases at 20%. Risk
management consumes 15% of the time, litigation consumes 15%, with
some time on overseeing prosecutions with Thurston County. The
remaining 8% is spent on training and administration of the department.
The City Attorney's Office reviewed 400 documents in 2024 of which
60% were contracts and 40% were real estate, plans and policies,
ordinances, resolutions, and code enforcement documents.
In 2024, the City Attorney's Office provided comprehensive legal
services on all matters of City business, preparation and legal review of
all documents to ensure legal sufficiency, ensured compliance with laws,
as well as risk reduction and protection of the City. The City Attorney's
Office represented the City in all actions brought on behalf of the City or
against the City, revised and updated City policies, forms, the Purchasing
Manual and contract templates, and provided a wide range of training on
a variety of matters related to Open Public Meetings Act, Open Public
Records Act, contracts, and first amendment auditor training. The risk
management function was transferred to the City Attorney's Office in
2024. Staff continues to work on increasing awareness and best practices
and was successful in reducing the City’s cost by approximately
$200,000 by increasing insurance deductibles.
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In 2025, the City Attorney's Office will provide comprehensive legal
services, monitor and advise on changes in laws that affect the City,
assist with the update of the Comprehensive Plan and all implementing
regulations, enhance the risk management functions, streamline and
automate internal processes, and add capacity by filling the vacant
attorney position, as well as increasing training of existing employees as
a component of succession planning.
City Attorney Kirkpatrick acknowledged the support and efforts by
Paralegal Sharleen Johansen.
FIRE DEPARTMENT Fire Chief Hurley provided an update on the Fire Department.
UPDATE:
The City’s fire department was first staffed by volunteers in 1973. Since
then the department has expanded to administrative staff, firefighters,
and emergency operations staff. Fire prevention and risk reduction are
areas to be expanded. The Fire Department is responsible for overseeing
emergency management for the City.
Currently, the department is authorized 62 employees. With the most
recent conditional offer, the Fire Department will be at full capacity.
Staffing includes seven administrative positions of Chief, Deputy Chief,
Executive Assistant, Department Assistant, Fire Prevention Officer,
Medical Services Officer (Battalion Chief), and a Training Lieutenant.
Daily staffing of the department is 11 employees with nine personnel
located in the City and two personnel located on the Medic Unit in the
Rochester area. Fire engines are staffed with three personnel and Medic
Units are staffed with two personnel. A Battalion Chief is also assigned.
In 2026, day staffing will increase to 13 positions to accommodate the
new Medic Unit 8.
The Department’s mission is to provide excellent public service. The
Department’s motto is, “It’s the Water and a Lot More” with “More”
representing people delivering service. The City received permission
from the Olympia Brewing Company to use the motto for the Fire
Department in the 1970s.
Basic response data in 2024 included approximately 6,000 calls for
service with approximately 75% of those calls for emergency medical
services of either advanced life support (ALS), paramedic calls, and
basic life support (BLS) calls. The Fire Department provided service for
good intent calls, such as false alarms. The categories of calls are
dictated by national reporting criteria. The calls represent a decrease of
approximately 1% to 2% from the previous year, a trend replicated
across the county.
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Fire Chief Hurley reviewed responses by fire station with more calls to
Station T2 than the Headquarters Fire Station. The dividing line for
response by each station is Trosper Road.
Significant accomplishments in 2024 included:
Completed update of the Strategic Plan
Washington Survey and Rating Bureau Protection Class
Upgrade to Class 3, (1-10 with 1 the highest in the state). The
City’s water supply factors highly in the Class rating. Many
insurance companies use Protection Class ratings to set rates
Updated Comprehensive Emergency Management Plan
Expanded partnership with Thurston County Medic One -
hosting new paramedic unit (Medic 8) to serve residents of
Tumwater and Thurston County. Completed recruitment
process for nine new Paramedic/Firefighters to staff the new
unit
In partnership with TCOMM 911, transitioned to TCERN
System - New digital radio system project planned in phases
over several years. All fire and police radios replaced as well
as significant radio infrastructure upgrades at fire and police
facilities
Supported employee wellness - the Department worked with
IAFF Local 2409 and other area agencies to support employee
wellness through the County PEER Support Team. Continued
participation in the L&I FIIRE program to support employee
safety and wellness as well as reducing City L&I rates
Completed Collective Bargaining Agreement with IAFF Local
2409
Goals for 2025-2026 include:
Continue working on elements of the Strategic Plan
Continue implementation of FD CARES program - developed
partnership with Olympia Fire Department FD CARES program
to expand services into Tumwater under interlocal agreement
Implement crisis response partnership - Olympic Health and
Recovery Services provides crisis response services for Thurston
County, City of Lacey, and Mason County through contractual
agreements. The City is collaborating with OHRS to pursue a
new crisis response program model through the Fire Department
Emergency Management Program partnership
Implement Medic 8: Complete required paramedic and firefighter
training for new employees who support Medic 8 by January 1,
2026
Facility updates: Station T2 was built in 1995 and will be
remodeled to accommodate additional Medic 8 staffing.
Facilities staff and the Fire Department are working with an
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architect on the remodel design
Staff wellbeing: Department will continue to put staff wellbeing
at the forefront, including peer support, cancer screening, and
increasing staffing levels
New equipment: Delivery of new fire engine scheduled for 2026
as well as replacement of three paramedic units (medic unit
replacement funded by Medic One)
Expand areas of community risk reduction program through
public education, code enforcement, fire inspections, and risk
assessments throughout the community such as reducing wildfire
risk
Fire Chief Hurley addressed questions from the Council on how 911 will
identify FD Cares calls and the current level of staffing in the Fire
Department. The FD Cares program is a referral program rather than a
response program. Typically, an engine company responding to a call
for service may identify a patient or another member of a family who has
needs that are not met by a fire or EMT crew but may require social
service support, needs placement into another living situation, needs
food, or requires assistance with medication. In those situations, fire
crews can refer those individuals to the Cares Program. A resident
willing to participate in the program receives coordination by Cares staff
with different agencies to help support the individual. Typically,
individuals are enrolled for a period of 90 days. The program is not
intended to be a long-term process. At this time, the Fire Department is
fully staffed based on budgeted positions for the department.
FINANCE Director Niemeyer reported the Finance Department is staffed by 12
DEPARTMENT employees responsible for customer service, utility billings and cash
UPDATE: receipts, assessment of Business and Occupation tax and violations,
internal controls and compliance, budgeting and financial reporting,
payroll, fraud prevention, and investments and banking, etc.
Accomplishments in 2024 included:
Continued implementation of the ERP, including the Human
Capital Management module (HR/Payroll)
Assisted with development and passage of the 2025-2026
biennial budget
Continued promotion of electronic payments
Worked with Communications and Water Resources and
Sustainability Departments to promote utility assistance programs
Coordinated several successful audits
Administered the Tâlícn Homes/Habitat for Humanity/Commerce
CHIP grant and audit (23-24)
In 2025, the Finance Department assisted with or completed the
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following:
Facilitated payments for the Israel Road and Capitol/Trosper
roundabout projects
Managed grant funding and compliance for the Tâlícn Homes,
Habitat for Humanity project
Assisted in the negotiation of the Fire Department labor
agreement
Continued to promote utility assistance programs (from 110 to
190 customers)
Identified 294 additional utility customers who may qualify for
the Lifeline program
Defended against dozens phishing and spear phishing attempts
Completed an audit of the Annual Comprehensive Financial
Report, a Single Audit (federal funds), an Accountability Audit,
and audits of LERMS, the TMPD, ERP conversion, and a special
investigation
Successfully implemented three new accounting standards from
the Governmental Accounting Standards Board (GASB)
Continued to implement the challenging ERP project and
provided support to the Payroll Officer
Provide the Budget and Finance Committee quarterly budget
reports
Production of a budget book (first budget book since 2020)
Councilmember Dahlhoff asked whether the department has a long-term
goal to hire a payroll employee to manage entities with complex
schedules, such as the Fire Department. Director Niemeyer affirmed the
department is developing a plan to provide payroll support as the payroll
for the Fire and Police Departments are complicated because of special
provisions in labor contracts and work schedules.
Councilmember Von Holtz asked about any concerns by the City with
respect to the state’s budget deficit. Director Niemeyer said some
information prior to the beginning of the legislative session spoke to a
reduction in funding for law enforcement. Mostly, the concern surrounds
federal grants and information from the Administration about the
termination of grants. Although, the City benefits from grants, the City
does not depend entirely on grants to the degree of balancing the budget.
It is hoped that the City will retain some of the grants and possibly
receive more grants.
Councilmember Dahlhoff inquired about the status of funds for two
perspective projects in Tumwater involving a project at the Craft District
and a community room at the new Operations and Maintenance Facility.
City Administrator Parks advised that State Representative Parsley
contacted her for additional information on the status of the two projects
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in terms of implementation. One would be funded by a $200,000 grant
to assist with a Craft District project with South Puget Sound Community
College (SPSCC) to facilitate incubator space for new entrepreneurs in
the craft distilling industry. The original funding request was for more
than $600,000. The issue is what can be accomplished with $200,000.
Staff is in contact with the President of SPSCC about different
opportunities, as well as in discussions with the owners of the Craft
District. The funding amount of $150,000 was to be allocated for a large
public meeting space in the new Operations and Maintenance Facility.
The question from Representative Parsley was on the status of each
project and outcome of the projects if the funds were not reallocated but
funded in the supplemental budget. Because no finalization of plans has
occurred, information was conveyed that the City would be amendable to
the delay since the priority is maintaining the million-dollar allocation
for habitat mitigation purchases.
QUARTERLY Director Niemeyer reviewed the final 2023/2024 budget compared to the
FINANCIAL UPDATE: forecast for revenues and expenditures. During the development of the
budget, staff anticipated the country experiencing a recession in 2023.
The revenue forecast reflected budget assumptions of low revenues and
usage of some savings to bridge the difference. Because the recession
never materialized, the budget for 2023/2024 exceeded expectations. For
example, sales tax revenue increased by $3.2 million more than the
budget forecast. B&O and Utility taxes were on target with the forecast.
Director Niemeyer reviewed other general fund revenue. New
construction was projected to slow because of the forecasted recession;
however, lacking a recession, new construction exceeded the forecast.
The general fund for the last biennium reflected an increase in $5.7
million than the budget forecast.
Director Niemeyer reviewed expenditures by department. Expenditures
in most departments were under the budget forecast. Combined actual
expenditures were $5.6 million less than the budget forecast.
Director Niemeyer reviewed the status of the first quarter 2025/2026
budget. Many of the first quarter revenue receipts are based on timing,
such as property tax collections. Most property tax is paid in April and
October each year. First quarter property tax revenue reflects a prorated
amount as the revenue is somewhat predictable except for new
construction. Other revenue categories, such as grants and transfers were
also prorated because of timing.
Sales tax revenue for the first quarter reflects actual receipts of 22.4%
versus the forecast of 25%. As January follows a major holiday it is
typically a slower month for purchases. February is a short month with
fewer days. Sales typically begin increasing in late spring through the
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fall. Utility tax reflects slightly less than the forecast as it typically lags
by one month. B&O tax is slightly more than the forecast of 25%.
Total revenue collected is 22% for the first quarter. The budget forecasts
25%. However, some revenue is seasonal and will be closely monitored
during the year.
In terms of expenditures, general government expenses accounted for
20% of the budget year-to-date (below 25%). All other departments
(police, fire, & public works) are below 25% with all expenditures
reflecting less than the forecasted budget to date.
Director Niemeyer reviewed Utility expenditures. The budget for
Utilities includes some large projects reflecting year-to-date expenditures
of only 3.5%. Construction has not commenced for any of the larger
projects, which does not reflect any debt financing or expenditure of
funds for construction. The Utility budgets will reflect amounts
substantially under the budget until projects are initiated. The Golf Fund
is similar to the Parks and Recreation Department with most golf
activities increasing during warmer weather and generating more revenue
during those months of the year.
Councilmember Swarthout questioned the potential consequences of the
Administration’s actions with respect to tariffs and how it might affect
the forecast for sales tax revenue and potential impacts to the City if the
bond market is affected with respect to future financing of the City’s new
Operations and Maintenance Facility.
Director Niemeyer responded that he shares similar concerns. Although
the stock market is the not economy it is one of many performance
indicators. Recent activity is alarming and distressing especially for
those who are close to retirement and cannot afford to suffer a loss in
savings. Tariffs are inflationary if they remain intact as proposed. That
situation is concerning because it could result in higher prices and lower
spending power, which would affect sales tax revenue. The purchase of
automobiles will be impacted, as they are expensive and could be more
difficult for many families or individuals to purchase. In terms of the
bond market, a potential exists of interest rates decreasing to balance
problems in the economy to help stimulate the economy, which could
benefit the City in terms of bond financing with lower interest rates.
STRATEGIC PLAN City Administrator Parks updated the Council on the strategic planning
UPDATE: process and main sources of input as the Council engages in the update
of the Strategic Plan. The 10-Year Financial Plan and the Community
Survey will help inform the Council in its update process. The goal is to
achieve solid alignment and prioritization of a strategic plan by the end
of 2025 to assist in informing the budgeting process for the 2027/2028
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biennium budget.
City Administrator Parks displayed a timeline of the strategic planning
process based on discussions with the strategic plan facilitator. In May,
staff will identify all pending projects and initiatives, categorize the lists
(projects mandated by state law or initiatives of priority by the City
Council) and draft focus areas, goals, and develop a criteria the Council
could use for prioritization. During May and June, the process includes
an update on the financial planning process (initial outcomes, initial
findings, and initial recommendations), followed by a review of some of
the outcomes from the Community Survey. Most of the prioritization
efforts will begin in July requiring input from the Council to help finalize
the various focus areas and goals, as well as reviewing inputs and priority
criteria.
Staff will use the list of priorities to develop specific work plans based on
the priorities. In the fall, the Council will work with the consultant on
the framework for implementing the priorities based on input from the
strategic plan and work plans to create a clear framework and some
agreements moving forward to complete the work efficiently and
effectively. The intent is to produce a final Strategic Plan by the end of
November.
The 10-Year Financial Plan entails ongoing work and will support
strategic planning efforts. The Budget and Finance Committee has
received several updates on the development of the 10-Year Financial
Plan by the consultant. The consultant has initiated analysis and is
working with the management team as well as conducting individual
meetings with department directors. The consultant is currently
preparing a draft of the technical memo. The process will result in a
modeling tool the City will use to complete budget assessments of
various scenarios to produce financial forecasts. The series of modeling
tools will enable the City to evaluate over time, the impact of different
initiatives, changes, and priorities. The consultant is scheduled to
finalize the work at the end of 2025 followed by a presentation to the
Council on a series of recommendations for approaches based on
different scenarios to assist the Council in identifying biennial budget
decisions with a clear understanding of any budget implications beyond
the budget biennium.
The City has previously pursued some general updates to community
surveys in three- to five-year increments. The new community survey is
timely and will serve as a component of the strategic planning process.
The City pursued a competitive selection process and selected a
Washington-based company, DHM Research. The company was highly
recommended by other municipalities in the state. A kick-off meeting
was held with the management team. The consultant is developing
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questions and is scheduled to present information to the Council at its
April 15, 2025 meeting.
Councilmember Dahlhoff noted that in the past, there have been
comments that prior community surveys results were not representative
of the demographics of the community. She asked whether the
consultant plans to address the issue to ensure the results are
representative of the population of the City. City Administrator Parks
affirmed that the company is aware of that particular issue and will
address the issue during the Council’s briefing. The surveying process
includes two separate surveys. The first survey will be a statistical
survey geared and structured to represent the demographic makeup of the
City. The same questionnaire will be released as a Community Survey
for anyone to complete. The statistically valid survey and the
community engagement survey are on different timeline tracks.
Councilmember Swarthout asked whether the City has utilized the
company previously. City Administrator Parks explained that the
company was selected through a competitive selection process. Both
DHM Research and the previous company contracted by the City
submitted good proposals. However, staff selected DHM Research
primarily because of the way the company presented its information.
Councilmember Cathey commented on the importance of the survey and
how future actions and goals of the City over the next several years
would likely be influenced by the current political environment.
Although it is preferable not to acknowledge the issue, it will be
important not to avoid the issue as the situation is not temporary and will
result in a tumultuous environment for the next four years. She is
concerned as to how the survey is administered realistically, as well as
the possibility that some Council goals might need to change as new
needs in the community are identified because of the new environment.
That may result in fewer projects to enable the City to address
community needs. She is hopeful that the message can be communicated
to the representatives from DHM Research that surveying the community
at this time will be different.
City Administrator Parks responded that the representatives are highly
qualified and represent a company that has a 40+-year history. She has
confidence in their understanding of public policy and the different
conditions that affect a community’s sentiment.
City Administrator Parks reviewed the timeline for the statistically valid
survey and the community engagement survey. Analysis of the
statistically valid survey is scheduled during the community engagement
survey with the analysis completed by May. DHM Research
representatives are scheduled to brief the Council at its June 17, 2025
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work session to share some basic feedback or a final report. She
encouraged the Council to submit any specific topics or issues that
should be included in the survey within the next week.
Councilmember Dahlhoff asked about the possibility of a comprehensive
list of questions that can be provided to the Council to enable
Councilmembers to rank or score and submit to the consultants. City
Administrator Parks said the request would need to be reviewed because
that level of interaction is not included within the schedule. Staff is
working through a list of over 60 questions categorized into different
subjects based on input from the management team. The list could be
shared with the Council to receive feedback.
City Administrator Parks responded to questions about the details of the
competitive bidding process for the consultant. The process entailed a
release of a request for qualifications followed by an evaluation of the
submittals and a selection process. Staff utilized the roster offered
through Municipal Research and Services Center (MRSC) serving local
governments throughout the state. MRSC offers a comprehensive list of
all types of consultants in addition to a small public works roster.
City Administrator Parks displayed information on how the 10-Year
Financial Plan, Community Survey, and the Strategic Plan are aligned.
She identified a tentative schedule of strategic planning sessions with the
Council and the scheduled topics. The schedule designates November
18, 2025 for adoption of the Strategic Plan and accompanying work
plans.
Councilmember Cathey asked that the dates be distributed to the Council
for calendar scheduling.
City Administrator Parks said the Strategic Plan covers a six-year period
with updates each year of the work plans. Annual reviews of the work
plans will track progress on different goals and priorities. She shared
links to other strategic plans and work plans from other jurisdictions in
the state. Most of the examples include core values and information on
different focus areas and goals, performance measures, and work plans.
Some jurisdictions feature Strategic Plan dashboards on the city’s
websites. The Strategic Plan is a guiding document that is policy-
oriented within the full purview of the legislative body to develop,
amend, and implement. The Strategic Plan enables the Council to focus
efforts on priorities to make progress rather than focusing on too many
different directions.
MAYOR/CITY City Administrator Parks reported the Tyee/Kingswood roundabout will
ADMINISTRATOR’S be paved in the next several days. The City released bids for the 2025
REPORT: Pavement Project with bids due on April 24, 2025. Another project
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scheduled for release for bids is the Ansten Street Sewer Project.
Completion of the sewer project will enable inclusion of Ansten Street in
the Pavement Project.
Green Business Awards are scheduled at the Thurston Chamber of
Commerce Green Awards & Expo on Wednesday, April 9, 2025. The
City plans to feature its fully electric sewer van as part of the display.
Some traffic lane restrictions on northbound Littlerock Road between
Israel Road and Kingswood are scheduled on April 11, 2025 to
accommodate night work on the project.
The 2025 "Where's the Peep?" virtual contest is scheduled from
April 14 – 18, 2025, one week before the Easter Egg Dash. "Where's the
Peep?" is a contest on Facebook featuring picture clues to guess the
location of "peeps" hidden around Tumwater to earn prizes sponsored by
event sponsor, Toyota of Olympia.
Councilmember Agabi shared that some individuals have posted
information about construction activity occurring in the City. He
recommended the City should consider publishing accurate information
to the community about development occurring in the City. City
Administrator Parks explained that the City’s construction update
notification process coordinated through the Communications
Department provides a regular release of information on different
construction projects. The Tyee and Kingswood projects are private
projects. It has not been the City’s practice to announce details of
different private building projects.
Councilmember Cathey spoke to some concerns surrounding the City’s
response to immigrants in the community in terms of the City’s
responsibilities and the role of the Police Department with respect to
stopping or questioning immigrants in the City. She asked whether the
City is responding to rumors in the City about the treatment of
immigrants and whether any City official is engaged in conversations
with the Tumwater School District or the Board about the Tumwater
Fresh Program for future collaboration. City Administrator Parks
advised that Director Chuck Denney has been working directly with
Tumwater High School and the Tumwater School District
Superintendent for the last several months on collaboration by the City to
help support the Tumwater Fresh Program. The City provides the space
and invested funds to renovate the space, as well stipends for students to
work through the summer. The program is a Tumwater School District
program with the City serving in a support role. She understands that the
assigned staff member devoted to the Tumwater Fresh Program has been
transferred as a general science teacher and will no longer work in
support of the program. Director Denney has additional details as to the
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issue and can follow up with the Council with more information.
In terms of immigrants within the community, the City’s response is
based on both day-to-today activities and calls for service that involves
an issue of immigration. The Police Department’s policy on immigration
violations is consistent with the state’s directive pertaining to immigrants
and immigration. The City’s awareness of issues is often through emails
or day-to-day activities in addition to information provided by
Councilmembers. Councilmember Jefferson forwarded an email about
the World Relief program. Staff will review the program parameters to
present additional information to the Council to determine if the City
wants to provide any assistance.
Councilmember Von Holtz commented on her frustrations surrounding
the lack of City information about a variety of topics as she is often
asked about the status of issues in the City. During the stuffing of Easter
eggs, she and Councilmember Swarthout received numerous questions
about the development occurring off Littlerock Road. She was aware of
some of the development activity but lacked information about other
development. If the Council has questions, it is almost guaranteed
constituents have questions. She would be appreciative of better lines of
communication on information to help manage expectations of potential
questions from the community. City Administrator Parks acknowledged
the comments. Staff works to provide information in terms of
understanding proactively what the community wants to know. Many
different forums are available to communicate with the community. She
invited the community to contact the City with any questions as the issue
is not a matter of not wanting to communicate, but rather it is about
continuing efforts to improve communications with the community
through an increase in communications staff and development of a
Communications Plan. The City publishes updates on events,
construction activities, and Council and other meetings.
Councilmember Dahlhoff commented on the importance of a well-
informed Council as the Council is often surprised by questions from the
community or a newspaper article published about the brewery. She
suggested implementing some kind of “heads up” process on activities so
the Council is informed about what is occurring or is going to occur in
the City. City Administrator Parks described some pending efforts to
develop some capacity and tools to improve proactive communications
and outreach to the Council.
ADJOURNMENT: With there being no further business, Mayor Sullivan adjourned the
meeting at 8:00 p.m.
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Agenda
CITY COUNCIL WORK SESSION
MEETING AGENDA
Online via Zoom and In Person at
Tumwater Fire Department
Headquarters, EOC, 311 Israel Rd. SW,
Tumwater, WA 98501
Tuesday, April 08, 2025
6:00 PM
1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call
3. City Attorney’s Office Department Update (City Attorney's Office)
4. Fire Department Update (Fire Department)
5. Finance Department Update (Finance Department)
6. Quarterly Financial Update (Finance Department)
7. Strategic Plan Update (Executive Department)
8. Mayor/City Administrator's Report
9. Adjourn
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