Civil Service Commission
Regular MeetingTumwater, WA · April 14, 2022
Minutes
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CONVENE: 5:30 p.m.
PRESENT: Chair Eric Trimble and Commissioner Simon Tee.
Staff: Secretary/Chief Examiner James Trujillo, Fire Chief Brian Hurley,
Police Chief Jon Weiks, Assistant Fire Chief Shawn Crimmins, and
Deputy Chief Examiner Juliann McGarva.
CHANGES TO There were no changes to the agenda.
AGENDA:
APPROVAL OF
MINUTES FOR
FEBRUARY 10, 2022:
MOTION: Chair Trimble moved, seconded by Commissioner Tee, to approve
the February 10, 2022 minutes as published. A voice vote approved
the motion.
APPROVAL OF
MARCH 10, 2022:
MOTION: Chair Trimble moved, seconded by Commissioner Tee, to approve
the March 10, 2022 minutes as published. A voice vote approved the
motion.
APRIL STATUS OF Chief Examiner Trujillo advised that the entry level firefighter eligibility
ELIGIBILITY LISTS: is effective through the end of November 2022. The meeting agenda
includes consideration of an exam plan for entry level Firefighter. Once a
new examination is approved, the existing eligibility list would no longer
be valid.
Chair Trimble recalled that the list must expire before it can be replaced.
Chief Examiner Trujillo cited the Civil Service Rule enabling the
Commission to approve a new examination. The existing eligibility list
based on a prior examination shall terminate and have no further force in
effect. A continuous list is under a separate rule and a different process.
Chair Trimble cautioned against replacement of an existing list. He cited
the example of replacing a promotion list as many employees would be
upset as they were under the belief their listing would be effective for one
year. Some employees have attended previous Commission meetings to
assert their right to remain on a list. It is less likely less an issue for entry
level lists.
Police Chief Weiks said that in previous circumstances, the department
sought Police Guild approval prior to any action.
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Chief Examiner Trujillo said he was not aware of any issues within the
Fire Department as Fire Administration is seeking the creation of a new
eligibility list. The alternative is to combine the two lists, which is not a
preferred action. The existing list expires at the end of November 2022.
According the new exam plan, a new list would be created at
approximately the same time with some overlap of approximately one
month.
Commissioner Tee questioned whether candidates on the existing list
would receive notification to participate in the new exam. Chief
Examiner Trujillo said the existing list continues to remain active until the
Commission approves a new eligibility list. Any positions to fill would
be from the existing list until the new eligibility list is established.
Deputy Chief Examiner McGarva advised that candidates on the existing
list have already tested through Public Safety Testing and would need to
re-test to be considered for the new list. The City could send notifications
to current candidates about the process to create a new list and invite them
to participate in testing.
Commissioner Tee said his issue is whether the City has an obligation to
notify candidates on the existing list. Chair Trimble supported notifying
candidates. He noted that when applicants are notified of their placement
on a list they are informed their standing is effective for one year.
Commissioner Tee agreed that if the City plans to replace the list prior to
its expiration in November, the City has an obligation to notify candidates
that the list will be replaced prior to its expiration. Chief Examiner
Trujillo said he is uncertain as to whether the City is obligated to notify
candidates but that the City could notify candidates that a new exam
would be scheduled resulting in a new list.
Chair Trimble commented that based on public employment law, the
placement on the list is valid for one year and cannot be removed without
due process. If the City plans to terminate the list prior to its expiration,
the City needs to provide notice to candidates and an opportunity for them
to provide comments. Chief Examiner Trujillo said it is possible to delay
the exam by a month.
Fire Chief Hurley explained that the proposed timeline assists the
department in terms of scheduling new employees at the fire academy at
the beginning of the year.
Discussion ensued on the timing of the new eligibility list.
ELIGIBILITY LIST: Chief Examiner Trujillo reported the six candidates proposed for addition
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PARAMEDIC/ to the eligibility list for Paramedic/Firefighter were received from the
FIREFIGHTER: Medic One testing process.
MOTION: Commissioner Tee moved, seconded by Chair Trimble, to approve
the eligibility list for Paramedic/Firefighter as presented. A voice
vote approved the motion.
ENTRY Chief Examiner Trujillo presented the entry level Firefighter exam plan.
FIREFIGHTER In response to the previous conversation, the City could adjust the
EXAM PLAN: schedule to defer consideration of the exam plan to the May meeting. The
exam is similar to previous versions with a change to the timing of testing
on mechanical aptitude to assist in increasing the number of applicants
participating in the process. The testing component on mechanical
aptitude has been an area where many applicants encounter difficulty.
The intent is to defer evaluation of mechanical aptitude to the oral board
process.
MOTION: Commissioner Tee moved, seconded by Chief Trimble, to approve the
exam plan for entry level Firefighter adjusting the effective date for
establishment of new list to November 2022. A voice vote approved
the motion.
FIRE LIEUTENANT Chief Examiner Trujillo reported the exam plan is similar to the Medical
EXAM PLAN: Service Officer (MSO)/Fire Captain exam plan. The exam consists of two
components of the overall Fire Lieutenant testing plan through Public
Safety Testing for the assessment process, candidate screening, and
written exam followed by the assessment center testing component.
Commissioner Tee asked whether the content of any of the testing
components are the same as the Fire Captain exam. Chief Examiner
Trujillo said the dimensions are the same. The exam is the same plan
used by the City in the past for the position.
MOTION: Chair Trimble moved, seconded by Commissioner Tee, to approve
the Fire Lieutenant exam plan as presented. A voice vote approved
the motion.
FIRE PARAMEDIC Chief Examiner Trujillo said the exam plan is similar to the MSO Fire
LIEUTENANT EXAM Captain exam plan and includes the Fire Lieutenant examination and the
PLAN: oral board for the position. The oral board is the same process as the Fire
Captain examination.
MOTION: Commissioner Tee moved, seconded by Chair Trimble, to approve
the Fire Paramedic Lieutenant exam plan as presented. A voice vote
approved the motion.
UPDATE TO POLICE Chief Examiner Trujillo said the update reflects a correction of a mistake
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SERVICES on a previous exam plan approved by the Commission for Police Services
SPECIALIST I EXAM Specialist 1. The exam plan indicated that all candidates meeting
PLAN: minimum qualifications would receive invitation to participate in the oral
board. That information is incorrect. The information should have stated
that candidates should receive invitation to take the written exam. The
Commission is requested to approve the updated and corrected version of
the exam plan.
MOTION: Commissioner Tee moved, seconded by Chair Trimble, to approve
the corrected and updated exam plan for Police Services Specialist as
presented. A voice vote approved the motion.
CHIEF UPDATES Fire Chief Hurley thanked the Commission for actions for the Fire
AND SCHEDULING: Department. Two new firefighters are participating in the fire academy
with graduation scheduled on May 26, 2022.
Based on the approval of the eligibility list for Paramedic Firefighter, the
department plans to move forward with interviews of candidates for open
positions.
Chair Trimble asked about the level of competition for the positions. Fire
Chief Hurley affirmed there is competition with the City of Olympia Fire
Department currently listing four openings as well as Lacey Fire District.
Competition is strong for qualified paramedics.
Fire Chief Hurley announced the memorial service for former Fire Chief
Ridgeway on April 30, 2022 at 5 p.m. at the River’s Edge Restaurant.
Police Chief Weiks reported on the pending graduation of Police Officer
Tyler Brown on April 15, 2022. He plans to attend the graduation. The
graduation is the first in-person graduation ceremony in two years. The
department currently has two Police Officer vacancies with the current
eligibility list exhausted and a new round of oral boards scheduled next
week.
NEXT MEETING Chief Examiner Trujillo advised that a new Commissioner would likely
DATE - 05/12/2022: attend the next meeting. Mayor Sullivan also plans to attend the next
meeting.
Chief Examiner Trujillo reported on recent planning activities for the
potential creation of a Regional Fire Authority comprised of the
Tumwater Fire Department and the Olympia Fire Department. More
information will be released as planning continues.
ADJOURNMENT: Commissioner Tee moved, seconded by Chair Trimble, to adjourn
the meeting at 6:00 p.m. Motion carried.
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_________________________ ___________________________________
Eric Trimble, Chair James Trujillo, Secretary/Chief Examiner
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Agenda
CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION
MEETING AGENDA
Online via Zoom
Thursday, April 14, 2022
5:30 PM
1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call
3. Changes to Agenda
4. Approval of Minutes
a. Approval of February 10, 2022 Minutes
b. Approval of March 10, 2022 Minutes
5. April Status of Eligibility Lists
6. Eligibility List: Paramedic Firefighter
7. Entry Fire Fighter Exam Plan
8. Fire Lt. Exam Plan
9. Fire Paramedic Lt. Exam plan
10. Update to Police Service Specialist I
11. Chief Updates and Scheduling
12. Next Meeting Date - 05/12/2022
13. Adjourn
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