Historic Preservation Commission
Regular MeetingTumwater, WA · June 16, 2022
Minutes
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CONVENE: 6:30 p.m.
PRESENT: Chair David Shipley and Commissioners Jeremy Barclay, Dave
Nicandri, Don Trosper, Renee Radcliff Sinclair, and Marnie Slakey.
Absent: Commissioner Alex Rossiter.
Staff: Parks and Recreation Director Chuck Denney, Parks and
Facilities Manager Stan Osborn, Recreation Manager Todd Anderson,
and Capital Projects Manager Don Carney.
CHANGES TO A report on the Pioneer Cemetery was added to the agenda.
AGENDA:
PUBLIC COMMENT: There were no public comments.
CERTIFICATE OF Sheila Swalling, Swalling Walk Architects, presented the proposed
APPROPRIATENESS – Certificate of Appropriateness for some improvements and additions to
SCHMIDT HOUSE: the Schmidt House.
The Schmidt House was built in 1904 by Leopold and Johanna
Schmidt. The improvements include:
• Construction of a new restroom within the existing carport
• A new ADA lift platform off the terrace
• Installation of ductless HVAC, fire suppression and doors in the
basement
• Replace existing sidewalk with new, wider walkway
The project adds an accessible restroom for people with mobility
limitations. The goal is to complete the improvements with the least
visual impact. Studies were completed on different types of access
ramps and areas for placement of the ramp. The Olympia Tumwater
Foundation selected the lift option.
Ms. Swalling referred to a site plan of the Schmidt House and
surrounding grounds. She identified different areas within the house,
the existing three-side covered carport, and the location of the new
accessible restroom. The option of including a restroom in the house
was not possible because of space limitations to meet required
clearances. To the left of the terrace along the side of the house is the
location of the lift, which is substantially hidden from views from the
front of the house.
Ms. Swalling displayed a view of the carport, a simple structure of
three walls and a hip roof constructed after the Schmidt House was
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built. The date of construction is unknown but the carport is more than
50 years old.
Ms. Swalling displayed different elevations depicting current
conditions and a new wall enclosing the restroom with the addition of
windows to form the new restroom. She referred to a picture of the
garden shed to provide more context as to the location of the
carport/garage.
Photos of the terrace from all sides were shared. The lift is proposed
for placement near the terrace located at the corner end of the house.
Overgrown shrubs have affected the terrace structure and would be
removed. The existing sidewalk is only two-feet wide. The proposal
removes and replaces an existing sidewalk with a five-foot wide
sidewalk. Existing rhododendrons would be removed with the lift
installed in that location.
Commissioner Radcliff Sinclair asked whether the plants would be
discarded or replanted in another location. Ms. Swalling advised that
the proposal is to discard the taller cedar-like shrubs, which are not
original to the house and replant the smaller rhododendrons in another
area on the property.
Commissioner Nicandri asked about the existing width of the diagonal
sidewalk that ends at the steps. Ms. Swalling replied that she believes
the diagonal sidewalk is five-feet wide. Commissioner Nicandri asked
staff to confirm the width as the new sidewalk should match the
existing sidewalk width. Ms. Swalling confirmed the proposal includes
adding a five-foot wide sidewalk to match the existing sidewalk.
Ms. Swalling pointed out the location of the lift, which extends three
inches taller than the top of the existing terrace. The lift is nine inches
wide and resembles a column feature extending above the terrace. The
structure includes a plexiglass gate rather than a metal gage. The new
restroom and the lift are the only two components of the project
affecting the Schmidt House visually from the exterior.
Commissioner Nicandri referred to the photograph depicting the house
as viewed from the covered carport and the drawing reflecting how the
structure would be enclosed with a wall and windows to create a
restroom. Although he understands the need to enclose the space to
provide a functioning restroom, the view of the carport against the
backdrop of the house is the most common vantage point for viewing
the house. One of the principles of historic preservation is to draw
upon an existing template for any new features or additions. The
photograph depicting the covered carport is helpful as it enables a view
of the top of the side view of the house with a series of stacked styled
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windows under the gable. The illustration for the carport reflects
enclosing the structure with a row of similar-type windows to the left
and a wall filling the right side of the structure. He encouraged the
team to consider designing the windows to match with the upper story
windows on the house and applying a frosting technique to the
windows for restroom privacy. The new window treatment should be
derived and inspired by the existing window stack on the house.
Chair Shipley agreed and suggested replicating the top trio of the attic
windows, as there is insufficient space to replicate the entire set of
windows.
As an alternative, Commissioner Nicandri offered that the windows
under the gable at the top of the house are both interesting as well as
resembling a three-window garage door, which could be replicated on
the front of the carport enclosure. Ms. Swalling acknowledged the
suggestion but noted the design includes an interior handicap grab bar
along the wall. The design would not be conducive to place a
windowsill lower as it would pose to be an uncomfortable environment
for people using the restroom. Commissioner Nicandri suggested that
the shape of the windows at the top of the stack is a better design
element for the enclosure. Ms. Swalling responded that placement of
the windowsills could be lowered by several inches; however, based on
the interior elevation, a horizontal grab bar includes a vertical grab bar
as required by code. The design does not afford flexibility to lower the
windows beyond a maximum of six inches to provide some context to
the window stack under the gable on the house. Commissioner
Nicandri clarified that the recommendation is not to adjust the height
but to mimic the shape of the windows, as well as the pattern of the
siding on the house to the extent possible.
The Commission discussed matching the siding of the new restroom
structure with the house siding. Ms. Swalling pointed out that the
existing garage siding is different from the siding on the house.
MOTION: Councilmember Nicandri moved, seconded by Commissioner
Trosper, to approve the Certificate of Appropriateness for the
proposed project with the following conditions: (1) the new
sidewalk and the area around the new lift is the same width as the
diagonal sidewalk to the foot of the adjoining stairs, (2) the window
treatment on the garage replicates the pattern and glazing of the
top portion of the third story window treatment on the same side of
the main house, and (3) approval of the lift design as proposed. A
voice vote approved the motion unanimously.
CROSBY HOUSE Manager Osborn followed up with information in response to questions
PROJECTS: addressed during the April meeting on regulations applicable to Crosby
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House roof, gutters, and foundation repairs.
Staff inspected the house roof and identified existing wood gutters on
the house. However, some gutters on the side of the house were
removed when the roof was replaced. The kitchen addition also lacks
gutters. The lack of gutters along the remaining areas is contributing
to foundation issues. Manager Osborn reported he contacted
Marygrace Goddu, with the City of Olympia for some guidance.
During their conversations, he learned about the difference between
rehabilitation and preservation of historic structures. The proposed
repairs are classified as a preservation project.
Manager Osborn referred members to copies of the bids for the roof
replacement. The lowest bid was approximately $110,000 with no
major repairs. Based on his conversation with Ms. Goddu, it is
possible to install metal gutters as long as they are similar in
appearance to the original gutters. Staff proposes to install metal
gutters and replace the roof with 1/2" wood roofing shakes. The cost is
high because it is based on the quality of the shakes.
Commissioner Slakey inquired about the fire risk of wood shakes.
Manager Osborn advised that the shakes are treated.
Manager Osborn reported the major concern of the historic house is
repairing the foundation. Staff is working on an estimate to include
within the department’s budget. Additionally, a separate cost is
included to contract with a contractor to work with a foundation
contractor for work under the floor joists to adapt to any new structure
as part of the foundation work. The budget request includes funding
for work on siding repairs, painting, gutters, and landscaping.
Commissioner Slakey asked about the timing of the repairs. Manager
Osborn advised that if the budget is approved, the work could be
initiated by mid-2023. Repairs to the Crosby House are a top priority
at this time.
Commissioner Trosper inquired about any financial support from the
Daughters of the Pioneers that use the house. Manager Osborn replied
that financial participation by the Daughters is not possible as the
organization is struggling financially.
Discussion ensued on the high cost of replacing the roof and recent cost
increases in the construction market. The budget request for Crosby
House repairs to replace the roof, add gutters, and repair the foundation
is approximately $200,000 and does not include repairs to the siding,
painting the house, and landscaping.
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Manager Osborn added that he was recently contacted by a woman
who leads a group of girl scouts. The group is seeking a location in
Tumwater to start a pollinator/butterfly garden. The garden would
require some irrigation. He worked with the Daughters and the girl
scout group to coordinate efforts to build the garden on the Crosby
property.
The Commission reviewed the status of its budget of which $20,000
was dedicated to the Old Brewhouse project. It is likely
Communications Manager Cook will request the Commission consider
allocating its budget next year. Director Denney noted that the
Commission has the option of allocating some funds to other projects
as well as to the Old Brewhouse project.
Discussion followed on the status of resuming in-person meetings and
the status of in-person Council meetings. Director Denney said the
Council has elected to conduct hybrid meetings utilizing both virtual
and in-person attendance by the Council in the Council Chambers. The
video and audio equipment was changed to accommodate broadcasting
both in-person and virtually. The system is complicated with all other
advisory board and commission meetings held in other locations at the
City. Additionally, the City has rescinded the requirement for COVID
vaccination effective July 1, 2022 based on the Governor’s action to
rescind the state of emergency executive order. Commissioners have
the option of attending either virtually or in-person.
MOTION: Councilmember Nicandri moved, seconded by Councilmember
Slakey, to endorse the proposed plan for repairs to the Crosby
House. A voice vote approved the motion unanimously.
CEMETERY UPDATE: Director Denney introduced Don Carney, Capital Projects Manager
with the Transportation and Engineering Department. Manager Carney
updated members on the status of the cemetery project.
Manager Carney reported the City received a grant from the
Department of Archaeology and Historic Preservation (DAHP) for
improvements to the cemetery. The grant required a survey of the
cemetery site by a professional archeologist. The City released a
Request for Proposals and contracted with an archeologist to complete
the survey. The archeologist proposed the use of ground penetrating
radar (GPR) to complete the survey. The perimeter of the cemetery
was defined for grant-funded fencing, security, and landscaping at the
entrance to the cemetery. The surveying and radar work was
completed with the archeologist completing and submitting a report to
the City and DAHP.
Staff is completing the design for the fence and front fence features.
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One of the requirements by DAHP is to ensure no fencing components
are placed on any areas containing cultural resources.
Manager Carney displayed an illustration of the perimeter of the
proposed fencing and security enhancements. The fence type is an
aluminum fence resembling a wrought iron fence with brick columns.
Near an existing old office building, a 2.5-foot high concrete wall
exists. The plan is to add a four-foot chain link fence along the wall to
create a 6.5-foot high fence. At the end of the wall, the plan calls for
adding chain link fencing around the remaining perimeter of the
property. An existing six-foot high chain link fence will remain along
a portion of the perimeter. All fencing will be black vinyl coated. At
one corner of the perimeter, four headstones exist requiring an
adjustment of the fencing perimeter to accommodate the headstones.
Another two headstones were identified that are not within the
cemetery property; however, DAHP has requested the City include the
area within the perimeter of the fence requiring a reconfiguration of the
fence line. The City has secured permission from the property owner.
Manager Carney displayed an illustration of the two brick columns at
the entry of the property. A small wall is proposed for addition as the
grade in a section of that area descends below grade. The short wall
will flatten the area for ease of maintenance with mowers. The front of
the cemetery will be landscaped recognizing the importance of not
disturbing any existing cultural resources as requested by DAHP. The
archeologist has authorized disturbing up to 8 inches of soil depth for
landscaping.
Currently, a gate exists in the front of the cemetery. The fencing will
match the existing gate with the columns slightly taller and wider. The
DAHP is reviewing the design submittal. Existing columns will
remain in place to avoid disturbing existing cultural resources
discovered during the improvements to Littlerock Road.
Chair Shipley asked whether a small parking area would be retained.
Manager Carney identified the area of parking. The plan does not call
for the removal of the parking area other than improving the site with
landscaping. Chair Shipley said the parking area is convenient when
visiting the cemetery rather than using the parking area at the Mills and
Mills site.
Discussion ensued on the last internment occurring at the cemetery.
Director Denney said improvements to the cemetery will be a multi-
phased process. Parking was not included in this project but would be
included in a future project. The small parking site is difficult to exit.
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Manager Carney outlined the location of the perimeter fencing. The
DAHP has requested no placement of columns on top of any of the
burial sites, which proved difficult for placement of the columns due to
the number of burial sites. Any areas previously disturbed by the
Littlerock Road project can be the site of some of the keystone walls.
Unmarked burial sites were identified in a 2008 study. During the road
improvement project, the City completed some excavating to determine
where burial sites were located to determine how close they would be
to the new improved roadway. Recent GPR surveying confirmed the
same locations, which verified the original readings as accurate. Much
of that area has been disturbed due to the installation of utilities as part
of the road improvement project. He identified areas along the
perimeter of the cemetery where fencing cannot be placed. Along the
rear of the cemetery several headstones are visible. GPR was able to
confirm the direction of the burial sites to avoid placement of the fence
across those sites. In some areas along the perimeter, the fence line is
moved into the Mills and Mills property to ensure the complete burial
site is located within the fenced area of the cemetery.
Manager Carney identified burial sites near the perimeter of the fence
and explained how fencing was re-positioned as well as the columns to
avoid burial sites.
Commissioner Nicandri asked whether the density of grave sites
abutting Littlerock Road is typical of the entire cemetery. Manager
Carney advised that no GPR work was completed inside the cemetery.
Based on the number of headstones within the cemetery, the density of
grave sites is much greater along the perimeter.
Chair Shipley commented on the thoroughness of the research and
documentation contained within the project design as well as how it is
possible to change the fence length between the columns to
accommodate grave sites.
Director Denney said GPR surveying work has been an incredible
effort. Some future improvements called out in the cemetery master
plan may or may not be possible because of the location of grave sites.
Manager Carney reported staff requested an extension of the grant,
which is scheduled to expire at the end of June 2022. The full report
has been submitted. The next step is receiving feedback from DAHP
on the report and whether additional issues need to be addressed. Staff
plans to continue working on the cost estimate to ensure the contract
can be developed once approval has been obtained.
Commissioner Trosper shared some historical names of people buried
in the cemetery. Many of the City’s founding pioneers are buried in
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the cemetery.
Commissioner Slakey offered that a dedication of the cemetery
following completion of the improvements would be good opportunity
to highlight some of the founding pioneers.
OTHER BUSINESS: Commissioner Nicandri inquired about the status of the Olympia
Tumwater Foundation’s fundraising efforts for the new visitor center at
Brewery Park at Tumwater Falls. Director Denney reported the
Foundation has been fundraising and is seeking to be included on the
final list for federal funds of approximately $2 to $3 million. He
recently met with John Freedman and stressed the seriousness of the
Commission’s action to issue a Certificate of Appropriateness despite
some reservations about the proposed design. The Foundation
received an award for the building’s design. Mr. Freedman said he was
not aware of the seriousness of the action and agreed to review the
video of the meeting with the Commission.
Commissioner Nicandri suggested that the application for the award
either by the architect or the Foundation is an important detail.
Director Denney said Mr. Freedman shared that his impression of the
meeting was that the Commission liked the project.
Commissioner Nicandri commented that although the Commission was
impressed by the program, he had some reservations about the exterior
design. The design is problematic at any number of levels especially
because of the underlying zoning.
Commissioner Nicandri asked about the status of the Council
considering the Oregon Trail resolution. Director Denney advised that
he has not forwarded the request but that it could be considered at its
second regular meeting in July.
Commissioner Nicandri noted that Capitol Boulevard/Old Highway 99
is the footprint of the Pacific Coast Highway/Oregon Trail. He asked
about the status of the design of the I-5/Trosper Road/Capitol
Boulevard Reconfiguration project. Manager Carney reported staff
anticipates releasing the invitation to bid notice by early July. The
project reconfigures Trosper Road and Capitol Boulevard to
accommodate two roundabouts and the construction of a new street,
6th Avenue from Lee Street to Trosper Road. The project includes some
improvements along Linda Street. The City’s website includes
information on the project.
Commissioner Nicandri mentioned the possibility of adding historic
signs after the completion of the project citing similar signage in the
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State of California depicting the Old Highway 99 route.
Manager Carney noted that any addition of signs to the project would
entail a work order and likely could not be accomplished prior to the
release of the bid notice. However, there are typically some changes
after the notice is released and whether signage could be included as a
change is unknown at that time. He offered to follow up with
Engineering Services Manager Bill Lindauer who is in charge of the
project.
Commissioner Nicandri described the design of the historical signs
located in California. He offered to provide a copy of the sign to staff.
Director Denney updated the Commission on the status of 4th July
events. This year, the City is sponsoring the 4th of July Parade with
approximately 100 entries with several high school bands. The 4th of
July Artesian Festival and the fireworks show will be heldopen with
the fireworks show scheduled to begin at 10:15 p.m. The City
anticipates 20,000 people on the driving range at the golf course.
ADJOURNMENT: Commissioner Nicandri moved, seconded by Commissioner
Trosper, to adjourn the meeting at 7:58 p.m. A voice vote
approved the motion unanimously.
Prepared by Valerie L. Gow, Recording Secretary/President
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MEETING AGENDA
Online via Zoom and In Person at
Tumwater Fire Department
Headquarters, Training Room, 311 Israel
Rd. SW, Tumwater, WA 98501
Thursday, June 16, 2022
6:30 PM
1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call
3. Changes to Agenda
4. Approval of Minutes 04/21/2022 - Delayed
5. Public Comment
6. Certificate of Appropriateness – Schmidt House
7. Crosby House Projects Update
8. Next Meeting Date - 07/21/2022
9. Adjourn
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