Olympia Tumwater Regional Fire Planning Authority Committee
Regular MeetingTumwater, WA · March 14, 2022
Minutes
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CONVENE: 5:30 p.m.
PRESENT: Chair/City of Tumwater Councilmember Leatta Dahlhoff, Vice
Chair/Olympia Councilmember Yến Huỳnh, Tumwater
Councilmember Michael Althauser, Olympia Councilmember Jim
Cooper, Olympia Councilmember Lisa Parshley, Tumwater
Councilmember Eileen Swarthout, Olympia Fire Union Representative
Firefighter Steven Busz & Alternate Erin Johnson, Tumwater Fire
Union Representative Firefighter Rian Winter (alternate for James
Osberg), Tumwater Fire Chief Brian Hurley, and Olympia Fire Chief
Mark John.
Staff: Tumwater City Administrator John Doan, Olympia City
Manager Jay Burney, and Tumwater Fire Department Administrative
Assistant Erika Stone.
Others: Karen Reed, RFA Consultant; Karen Meyer, The Athena
Group, Faith Trimble, The Athena Group; and Bill Cushman, Fiscal
Analyst.
WELCOME & Chair Dahlhoff welcomed everyone to the meeting. Members
INTRODUCTIONS: provided self-introduction and shared information about their favorite
song to karaoke.
WELCOME, REVIEW OF Ms. Meyer cited the committee’s feedback to schedule meetings on
FEB. 28 SUMMARY, the first and fourth Monday of each month. Zoom links will be
AGENDA, MEETING published prior to each meeting. She reviewed the meeting schedule
SCHEDULE: and a cumulative summary of action items and follow-up questions
from the last meeting:
Form Comparables Ad Hoc Subcommittee - Steven Busz,
James Osberg, Jay Burney. Status: created preliminary
spreadsheet.
Form Capital Assets Ad Hoc Subcommittee - Brian Hurley,
Mark John, John Doan Status: financial spreadsheet updates,
additional requests may be made by Bill.
Internal/External website, social media, news release
discussion - John Doan and Jay Burney to discuss. Status:
Communications work is pending the finalization of the
charter.
Follow-up questions:
Tumwater and Olympia attorneys should have a discussion and
discuss bandwidth and expertise. If not available, may need to
look at hiring legal counsel
Fire Benefit Charge requires 60% approval to create RFA.
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(Can County Assessor accommodate with timeline?)
Consider a why/purpose statement for the RFA, for when
public and staff ask questions? - Who will be on point at each
city to prepare talking points, FAQs, etc?
Agenda - Suggest adding main talking points to the agenda (to
prepare report to councils)
City Manager Jay Burney advised that the City of Olympia City
STAFF TEAM UPDATE: Attorney Mark Barber has offered to serve as the lead legal counsel
for the committee’s work. The City of Olympia’s website will
include a link to Tumwater’s RFA page.
Councilmember Parshley suggested adding a go- or no-go decision
point.
City Administrator Doan reported the City of Tumwater updated the
City’s website and added a page on the RFA, efforts continue on
drafting of an outline of facilities and the process for a facility
transfer, permitting requirements, and plan review and fire marshal
services for an RFA, followed by a review of equipment transfer. The
City of Tumwater offered to fund the consultant fee for exploring a
fire benefit charge.
REVIEW/DISCUSSION: Fire Chief Hurley updated members on the status of developing a
PURPOSE STATEMENT Purpose Statement. A copy of the statement will be emailed to the
FROM CHIEFS: committee.
UPDATE AND POSSIBLE Ms. Meyer presented the Olympia - Tumwater RFA Planning
ACTION: DRAFT Committee Draft Phase 1 Communication Plan January - June 2022.
COMMUNICATIONS
PLAN, WEBSITE: Discussion followed on the different communication methods and
public outreach avenues utilized by each city. Information was shared
on communications methods used by the cities and the fire unions.
Coordination of messaging by the cities and the unions was
recommended. Following the finalization of the charter,
communications staff from each City will coordinate messaging to the
communities.
The committee supported the Draft Communications Plan as
presented.
Ms. Meyer presented and described an outline of the Cities of Olympia
and Tumwater Regional Fire Authority (RFA) Planning Committee
DRAFT website content/FAQs.
Frequently Asked Questions:
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Q: What is a Regional Fire Authority?
Q: How is an RFA created?
Q: Why create an RFA?
Q: Who else has created an RFA?
Q: What happens to the firefighters and staff in the two cities—
will they still be providing service to my community?
Q: How is the RFA funded? Does this funding differ from
current fire services funding?
Q: What is a fire benefit charge?
Q: How much will the RFA cost?
Q: When will I know what the plan is for the RFA and how much
it will cost me? How can I have input into the process?
Q: What is the timeline for the project?
Q: How is the RFA governed?
Q: Will my fire station be closed?
Comments and suggestions offered by members included improving
the response to the last question (Will my fire station be closed?),
include question on continuation of response times and service level,
reorder questions focusing of what, why, level of service, and health
and level of service, and add question that speaks to the region’s
excellent cardiac save rate and the continued partnership with
Thurston County Medic One.
Ms. Meyer reported a revised draft would be forwarded for the
committee’s review. City Administrator Doan recommended
members submit any suggested changes to him and City Manager
Burney to finalize and post the document on Tumwater’s RFA page
with the understanding the document would continue to evolve.
REVIEW REVISED Ms. Reed reviewed a revised Draft Work Plan. She recommended
WORK PLAN: providing all substantial direction to the staff team by the end of July
to enable composition of the RFA Plan during August (committee
break) for review by the committee in September for finalization of
the RFA Plan in October and delivery to the councils in early fall.
Discussion ensued on the issue of whether to add a go- no go- decision
point.
Ms. Reed confirmed direction by members of including a go- no go
decision point on the June 27, 2022 meeting agenda, tentatively retain
the August meeting dates although likely for staff team meetings, and
schedule September 12 and 26, 2022 meetings and one meeting in
October 2022.
The committee discussed scheduling town hall meetings and the
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format (virtual vs. in-person) and timing for work on combining labor
contracts. Firefighter Busz updated members on the status of
discussions for merging the two labor agreements.
POSSIBLE ACTION: Ms. Reed presented and reviewed each section of a revised RFA
REVISED RFA Planning Committee Charter with recent changes from Chair Dahlhoff
PLANNING incorporated.
COMMITTEE
CHARTER: Ms. Reed explained that the charter outlines the rules for the
committee in terms of working and making decisions together. The
difference with the Chiefs one-page outline is a description of how to
respond to public inquires about why regionalization of services is a
good idea.
Following discussion, the following change was recommended:
A quorum was revised to reflect four members rather than five
members.
MOTION: Councilmember Parshley moved, seconded by Councilmember
Althauser, to approve the Cities of Olympia and Tumwater
Regional Fire Authority Planning Committee Draft Proposed
Charter/Operating Rules as amended. A voice vote of voting
members approved the motion unanimously.
Firefighter Busz disconnected at 6:45 p.m. to respond to a call. His
alternate, Firefighter Erin Johnson joined the meeting. Firefighter
Busz later rejoined the meeting.
PRESENTATION: RFA Ms. Reed’s introduction on RFA financing covered the following
FINANCING topics:
INTRODUCTION - FIRE
LEVY, OTHER Major sources of revenue for a RFA include:
REVENUES, Property Tax
IMPORTANCE OF RFA Fire Levy
RESERVES, FUND Fire Benefit Charge (FBC)
BALANCE, FIRE EMS Levy Allocation
BENEFIT CHARGES: What are some of the major challenges?
What have others done?
Introduction to Fire Benefit Charges – A FBC is a 60% voter-
approved fee collected by County Assessor and is based on fire
response needs of a structure, rather than the value of the
structure. Property owners exempt from property tax are
exempt from a FBC. Vacant property is not subject to a FBC.
The FBC is determined by a rationally based formula. It is
likely the RFA will need to pursue a FBC to fund current level
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of service and operations.
Follow-up requests from members included obtaining information on
other RFA’s communications process for successfully passing a FBC.
Include FBC in the FAQ and information on how property owners pay
the FBC. Document to voters what services would be sacrificed if a
FBC is not assessed. Include information within the FAQ on how the
RFA could be adequately funded through the different funding
mechanisms.
The committee supported a request to engage a consultant to develop a
database to facilitate the FBC based on square footage, building use,
sprinklers or other credits, and FBC $ amount for each parcel.
Ms. Reed shared a timeline of revenue sources for the RFA during the
first year. The first year will be dependent upon funds from each
jurisdiction for the first five months.
MEETING RE-CAP AND Ms. Meyer presented talking points to update each Council:
TALKING POINTS
The RFA reviewed a charter to guide its work
SUMMARY FOR CITY
The RFA reviewed a work plan
COUNCILS:
The RFA increased meetings to twice a month
The plan includes updating Councils regularly and conducting
two public engagement events
The RFA continues to work on the RFA website (hosted by
Tumwater) to include FAQs and RFA Planning Committee
agendas and materials
Administrative Assistant Stone reviewed the actions completed by the
committee:
Approved Communications Plan
Preliminary approval of Work Plan
Olympia City Attorney Mark Farber will assist the committee
Tumwater agreed to fund the Database Consultant
The committee adopted its Charter
Follow-up items:
Ms. Meyer will forward Purpose Statement from Chiefs to the
committee
The revised FAQs will be forwarded to City Administrator
Doan and City Manager Burney for finalization based on any
feedback from members
Ms. Reed will add a go- no-go on the work plan for the June
27, 2022 meeting agenda.
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Meetings for September and October will be added to the
Work Plan
The talking points to the Councils will be forwarded to the
committee
City Manager Burney confirmed updating Olympia’s website
to incorporate the committee’s agendas and materials
Ms. Reed to follow-up with other RFAs to receive information
on how many pursued a FBC at start-up.
ADJOURNMENT: With there being no further business, Chair Dahlhoff adjourned
the meeting at 7:34 p.m.
Prepared by Valerie L. Gow, Recording Secretary/President
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Agenda
OLYMPIA TUMWATER
REGIONAL FIRE PLANNING
AUTHORITY COMMITTEE
MEETING AGENDA
Online via Zoom
Monday, March 14, 2022
5:30 PM
1. Welcome, review of Feb. 28 summary, agenda, meeting schedule
2. Staff team Update (Jay, John)
3. Review/Discussion: Purpose statement from Chiefs
4. Update and possible action: Draft Communications Plan, website - Karen M
5. Review revised work plan - Karen R.
6. Possible action: Revised RFA Planning Committee Charter
7. Presentation: RFA financing introduction-- fire levy, other revenues, importance of RFA reserves,
fund balance, Fire Benefit Charges - Karen R., Bill C.
8. Meeting re-cap and talking points summary for City Councils - Karen M.
9. Adjourn
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