Planning Commission
Regular MeetingTumwater, WA · March 8, 2022
Minutes
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CONVENE: 7:00 p.m.
PRESENT: Chair Elizabeth Robbins and Commissioners Terry Kirkpatrick, Nam
Duc Nguyen, Meghan Sullivan, and Michael Tobias.
Excused: Commissioners Grace Edwards and Nathan Peters.
Staff: Planning Manager Brad Medrud.
CHANGES TO There were no changes to the agenda.
AGENDA:
APPROVAL OF
MINUTES –
FEBRUARY 22, 2022:
MOTION: Commissioner Kirkpatrick moved, seconded by Commissioner
Tobias, to approve the minutes of February 22, 2022 as presented.
Motion carried unanimously.
COMMISSIONER There were no reports.
REPORTS:
MANAGER’S Mayor Sullivan is planning to attend the April 11, 2022 meeting for a
REPORT: question and answer session with the Commission.
The City hired the new Sustainability Coordinator. Alyssa Jones-Wood
will join the City in May. Ms. Jones-Wood is from south Florida where
she currently works as a Sustainability Coordinator for the City of
Hallandale Beach, Florida. She has a master’s degree in geoscience
with a focus on human environment and sustainability. Her
responsibilities in the new position include coordinating the
implementation of the Thurston Climate Mitigation Plan and providing
support to the Tree Board and implementation of the Urban Forestry
Management Plan.
The City has received applications for the two open Commission
positions. Interviews are scheduled at the end of March for the first
vacant position.
The City is advertising to fill the Economic Development Manager and
Habitat Conservation Coordinator positions serving in the Community
Development Department.
PUBLIC COMMENT: There were no public comments.
URBAN FORESTRY Manager Medrud reported the next step in the implementation of the
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MANAGEMENT Urban Forestry Management Plan is the preparation of an update to the
PLAN – TREE City’s tree preservation regulations. The process will involve hiring a
PRESERVATION consultant to work with staff, stakeholders, and the Tree Board,
REGULATION Planning Commission, and City Council to update the City’s tree and
UPDATE, SCOPE OF vegetation preservation regulations (Tumwater Municipal Code (TMC)
WORK: 16.08 Protection of Trees and Vegetation), as well as review and update
other relevant regulations, plans, and handouts. The draft scope of work
for the consultant will be included in a Request for Proposals (RFP) that
the City will be issuing later in March 2022 for a consultant to work on
the regulation update.
The update will be an extensive process. Staff received substantial
input and interest with respect to the update. Another update closely
following this update is the City’s landscaping and buffering codes
within the zoning code.
Manager Medrud requested feedback on the scope of work for the RFP.
The RFP includes a description of the project, goals of the project, and a
general scope of work to guide the consultant’s RFP submission. The
consultant’s expertise will be focused on community engagement and
engagement with the Tree Board, Planning Commission, and City
Council. Staff is also seeking more expertise on trees and vegetation to
help inform any of the updates to the ordinances.
Chair Robbins asked about the possibility of including the formation
and management of a stakeholder group. Manager Medrud responded
by reviewing the staff report outlining next steps. The issuance of the
RFP is scheduled within the next several weeks with the draft RFP
under review by the Commission and the General Government
Committee at its next meeting. The scope of work outlines general
project administration involving the coordination of the consultant with
City staff and required meetings and other coordinating
activities/meetings. The scope of work includes the preparation of a
public engagement plan with the consultant to work with City staff to
identify all stakeholders. Several comments received by staff earlier
and forwarded to the Commission are indicative of the need to expand
the list of stakeholders. Manager Medrud reviewed the draft list of
stakeholders and described why particular stakeholders were included.
Commissioner Kirkpatrick said he visited the City’s website and was
unable to locate a listing of homeowner associations in the City. The
City of Lacey has an extensive list of homeowner associations as well as
staff meetings with neighborhood associations on a regular basis. He
does not believe the City has pursued a similar direction with respect to
outreach to homeowner associations.
Commissioner Sullivan added that the City of Olympia also maintains a
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list of homeowner associations.
Manager Medrud said the City has a list of homeowner associations,
although it may be outdated. The update might offer an opportunity to
initiate some discussions on ways to reach out to homeowner
associations for a variety of reasons. He agreed developing a list
beyond the existing list is important to include within the scope of work.
Staff identified the following stakeholders:
Residential property owners
Homeowner associations
Commercial, industrial, and institutional property owners
Residential, commercial, industrial, and institutional developers
Professional consultants, such as landscape architects, foresters,
and arborists
Tree cutting/landscape maintenance companies
City development review staff, including planning, building and
development engineering staff
City maintenance staff
City code enforcement staff
Environmental interests
Chair Robbins recommended including private utility companies, such
as Puget Sound Energy because those companies work in the right-of-
way. Commissioner Kirkpatrick suggested including the Tumwater
Area Chamber of Commerce. Manager Medrud affirmed the
recommendations.
Commissioner Tobias asked about the cost-sharing for sidewalk repairs
between the City and homeowner associations for those instances where
tree roots are breaking through the sidewalk. Manager Medrud said
those situations can vary and would be subject to more conversations
when the Commission reviews housekeeping ordinances later in the
year. If sidewalks are along a public street, abutting homeowners are
responsible for repairs to the sidewalk. The City has participated with
homeowner associations or a larger group of homeowners to replace
some sections of sidewalks. However, in practical terms, the City relies
on adjacent property owners. For sidewalks located off private lanes
and roads, property owners are responsible for sidewalk maintenance
and repairs.
Manager Medrud reported the public engagement plan will also
explicitly address how to promote equity and environmental justice.
The RFP draft stresses the importance of treating all areas in the City
equally with all community members having the same level of access to
improvements and benefits. In terms of a stakeholder group either
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externally or internally, the draft defers to the consultant to provide
feedback on the best process to pursue. The plan also requires the
development of a project schedule to accommodate stakeholder and
community meetings as part of the update process, as well as identifying
deliverables to the Tree Board, Planning Commission, and the City
Council in sufficient time to engage in thorough discussions. Public
worksessions will initiate the process of reviewing the ordinance.
Materials will be identified for posting on the website and through the
City’s social media accounts.
Commissioner Kirkpatrick encouraged staff to consider adding a
resident of Tumwater as an environmental representative rather than a
national environmental organization as the update speaks to the
importance of participation by community members.
Commissioner Sullivan commented that in terms of applying equity
within the process, some experience she has gained from her
professional career on reaching hard to reach populations such as low-
income communities or communities of color has been by considering
some form of compensation for their time especially if they are
requested to participate in a stakeholder group. Manager Medrud
affirmed that the topic was also reviewed during conversations on the
tenant protection ordinance.
Manager Medrud said public engagement would likely include a public
open house for community-wide outreach followed by stakeholder
group meetings.
Work products for the project in addition to materials for public
engagement include:
a. Amendments to the following, as needed, in the final form of an
ordinance:
1) Municipal Code in Title 16 Environment (TMC 16.08 Protection
of Trees and Vegetation)
2) Other relevant sections of the Tumwater Municipal Code as
identified during the process
3) Tumwater Development Guide, text and details as needed
4) Citywide Design Guidelines, text and details as needed
5) Comprehensive Plan and Subarea Plans as needed
6) Littlerock Road Subarea Plan, Chapter 5 Implementation as
needed Capitol Boulevard Community Zone Design Guidelines
as needed
b. The ordinance should be assessed for compliance with the Growth
Management Act (GMA) requirement to comply with the Attorney
General's Guidance regarding takings
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Manager Medrud reviewed the schedule for the update. At its March 9,
2022 meeting, the General Government Committee is scheduled to
provide input on the draft scope of work. The RFP process and
consultant selection process will begin in March through April 2022
followed by the consultant starting work in May 2022.
Manager Medrud shared information on the professional background of
Tree Board members. Tree Board Chair Trent Grantham is a landscape
architect for a local firm and works closely with developers to design
landscaping for projects, Brent Chapman serves as the Arborist for
Capitol Campus, Michael Jackson is a professional forester and owns a
firm specializing in that type of work, another member serves as a
geologist, and Jim Sedore is a former forester and landscape consultant.
The remaining two members have environmental backgrounds. The
Mayor recommends appointments to the Tree Board based on
appropriate representation within the industry.
Manager Medrud reviewed a proposed schedule for the Planning
Commission beginning with a Commission worksession transitioning to
joint meetings with the Tree Board. The Commission will conduct a
public hearing and forward a recommendation to the City Council. A
joint worksession is scheduled with the City Council to review the
update process and introduce the consultant. The schedule will likely
change over time as the schedule is aggressive and will likely require
more time.
The Urban Forestry Management Plan was reviewed for guidance in
developing the scope of work. Staff asked Permitting Division staff to
provide recent asbuilt plans and landscaping plans for recent projects
such as Skyview for review by the Planning Commission and Tree
Board. During a worksession, staff will walk the Planning Commission
and Tree Board through the development review process. Staff also
reviewed materials related to the scope of work provided by Ben
Thompson and his staff at the Washington State Department of Natural
Resources.
Chair Robbins suggested including representatives engaged in urban
agriculture, such as community gardens, orchards, or the Thurston
County Conservation District within the public engagement process.
Another consideration is the area of historically or culturally significant
trees in the City that could include the tribes or others engaged in
historical research.
PUBLIC COMMENT: JJ Lindsey said she is a homeowner who lives off 4th Avenue
Southwest in Tumwater. The Thurston Climate Mitigation Plan
mandates the City and the county to mitigate carbon and to save as
many trees as possible. She emphasized the importance of using that
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criteria when considering the type of urban forestry the City should be
protecting. She supports the protection of heritage trees while also
using the size of trees as a metric that is just as important as heritage
trees. Typically, heritage trees are large and have value for many
different reasons. Large trees are being mowed down for large
warehouses in Tumwater and many residents in the City are concerned
by the disappearance of large tracts of trees for large warehouses with
impervious surface resulting in the loss of carbon mitigation,
stormwater mitigation, energy savings of shade trees, loss of beauty in
the City, and the loss of habitat. Those values should be considered.
Additionally, the listed stakeholders on the list does not include an
environment-oriented stakeholder, which is concerning as the list
includes arborists with competing interests because many are in the
business to remove trees. She has had experience with arborists through
her neighbors when trees were removed that were not diseased but were
removed for suspicious reasons. She is an owner of a very large cedar
tree on her property and someone wants her to remove to improve views
of Mt. Rainier. She has retained the tree because of its value on many
levels for shade, energy savings, mitigation of carbon, and stormwater
mitigation. Trees are important for many different reasons and she does
not want them viewed as a measurement in a metric that are not valued
as a living creature. She suggested the process should include
stakeholders who reflect those values. In response to Commissioner
Kirkpatrick’s comments regarding the recommendation to exclude
external environmentalists, those organizations know more about the
value of trees than anyone else and she would trust membership
representing the Sierra Club or the Black Hills Audubon or other groups
as specialists that have the knowledge as to why trees should be retained
and preserved in Tumwater. She asked whether the Commission plans
to address the membership list.
Valerie Krull said she lives in Olympia. She echoed the comments of
Ms. Lindsey and was also surprised the Tree Board lacks environmental
members. Although foresters were referred to as environmentalists,
they are not necessarily environmentalists because they can be focused
on a specific outcome. Although not a citizen of Tumwater, she
believes trees in Tumwater are just as important as trees in Olympia as
all trees are important to habitat and the environment. She has spoken
to similar groups about the importance of trees for the last 40 years.
Forty years ago, she was one of the lone speakers about the environment
whereas today, most people understand how natural habitat is the most
important thing. The community does not need more huge blocks of
concrete preventing the natural environment from functioning as it
should. The City should be doing everything it can to save the planet
while the planet still exists. She is hopeful the suggestion of including
members on the stakeholder group who represent a broader scope is
considered.
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Melinda Hughes, Executive Director, Thurston Climate Action
Team (TCAC), said she lives on the border of west Olympia and
Tumwater. She supports previous comments that speak to the
importance of including experts. In terms of the Thurston Climate
Mitigation Plan, climate change recognizes no boundaries. Impacts to
one area affect all areas. She has approximately 25 years of forest
management experience and natural resource conservation management,
as well as an environment law degree. Seeking experts is definitely a
must for the process because not only is the plan to be implemented
soon, it likely will be included in the Comprehensive Plan that spans the
next 30 years. She thanked the Commission for considering climate
change and equity.
Manager Medrud advised that based on the feedback, he would revise
the scope of work and release the RFP for consultant proposals.
URBAN FORESTRY Manager Medrud said the scope of work for landscaping and buffering
MANAGEMENT regulations is similar to the tree preservation update with a similar
PLAN – process and stakeholders. The goal of the update is to achieve a desired
LANDSCAPING AND outcome of a project. Landscaping codes serve multiple purposes
BUFFERING ranging from environmental benefits, improving aesthetics, and
REGULATION buffering the impacts of one use from another use. Buffering is required
UPDATE, SCOPE OF for uses adjacent to other types of uses to mitigate impacts of noise,
WORK: visual, or other issues. Landscaping and buffering regulations address
required plants in specific areas of a specific size, maintenance
responsibilities, and other landscaping and buffering requirements.
Landscaping is required is multifamily developments, commercial and
industrial developments, and manufactured home parks to maintain and
protect property values and enhance appearance and sense of place.
Landscaping requirements are not required for single-family residences
other than for open spaces established as part of a plat.
Commissioner Kirkpatrick said it appears the code does address single-
family housing. He cited a section that addresses single-family low and
single-family medium within a chart on stormwater ponds and buffers.
Manager Medrud clarified that the code does not apply to individual
single-family lots. Codes do apply to open spaces within a subdivision
plat, for instance.
Manager Medrud explained that the update would include a similar set
of stakeholders. The focus will be specific to those users who rely on
the code to help them understand the code and that the code is
enforceable. He invited comments and suggestions as to other
stakeholders who should be included. With no additional feedback,
Manager Medrud confirmed he would make the changes previously
discussed for the tree preservation update.
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Manager Medrud reviewed the scope of work and the schedule. The
update will follow the tree preservation update to afford time for staff to
complete work with the consultant and to serve as an opportunity to
improve the stakeholder process from the tree preservation update. The
General Government Committee is scheduled to review the proposal at
its meeting in April. The schedule calls for the issuance of an RFP in
June 2022 for a consultant.
Chair Robbins asked about the possibility of any overlap between the
stakeholder groups for the two updates to ensure clarity as to which
codes are under review as it appears there could be some concurrency of
the updates. Manager Medrud advised that it would be dependent upon
the consultants who respond to the RFPs. It is possible staff would
consider one consultant working on both updates. The conversation
with the consultant will cover how work on one update might inform the
other update. However, it is likely the consultant would not have the
capacity to manage both updates. The responses from consultants will
assist in determining the process moving forward. His concern is to
avoid overwhelming stakeholders while recognizing the importance of
not extending the process.
NEXT MEETING The next meeting on March 22, 2022 includes a public hearing on the
DATE: binding site plan ordinance. The Commission’s initial discussion on the
planned unit development chapter is scheduled in April.
Commissioner Kirkpatrick conveyed his appreciation for receiving a
copy of what appears to be an internal newsletter. The information was
helpful as it included a listing of development activities occurring in the
City. He asked to be placed on the distribution list for future
newsletters. Manager Medrud said he would forward future newsletters
to the Commission regularly.
ADJOURNMENT: Commissioner Tobias moved, seconded by Commissioner Sullivan,
to adjourn the meeting at 8:04 p.m. A voice vote approved the
motion unanimously.
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Agenda
PLANNING COMMISSION
MEETING AGENDA
Online via Zoom
Tuesday, March 08, 2022
7:00 PM
1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call
3. Changes to Agenda
4. Approval of Minutes
a. Planning Commission Draft Meeting Minutes February 22, 2022
5. Commissioner's Reports
6. Manager's Report
7. Public Comment
8. Urban Forestry Management Plan – Tree Preservation Regulation Update, Scope of Work
9. Urban Forestry Management Plan – Landscaping and Buffering Regulation Update, Scope of Work
10. Next Meeting Date - 03/22/2022
11. Adjourn
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