Planning Commission
Regular MeetingTumwater, WA · May 23, 2023
Minutes
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CONVENE: 7:00 p.m.
PRESENT: Planning Commission Chair Elizabeth Robbins and Commissioners Grace
Edwards, Terry Kirkpatrick, Brian Schumacher, Meghan Sullivan, Michael
Tobias, Anthony Varela, and Kelly Von Holtz.
Staff: Planning Manager Brad Medrud and Housing and Land Use Planner
Erika Smith-Erikson.
CHANGES TO There were no changes to the agenda.
AGENDA:
COMMISSIONER’S There were no reports.
REPORTS:
MANAGER’S Manager Medrud reported the next regular meeting is scheduled on June
REPORT: 27, 2023. A joint session with the Tree Board is scheduled on July 11,
2023.
PUBLIC There were no public comments
COMMENT:
TREE AND Manager Medrud encouraged Commissioners to provide feedback or offer
VEGETATION any questions on the materials provided and presented at the last meeting.
PRESERVATION
REGULATION Commissioner Tobias asked whether the goals for carbon offsets could be
UPDATE: accomplished through plantings of shrubs and other plants that provide
canopy coverage rather than only by trees. Manager Medrud said the
Urban Forestry Management Plan does not include any measurements for
carbon offsets. However, actions by the City through the Climate
Mitigation Plan have broadly considered canopy and how it contributes to
carbon reduction. The plan does not specify specific goals either in the
policy document of the Urban Forestry Management Plan or within the
regulations. The intent is to create a simple plan by concentrating on tree
canopy as the primary means of measuring success and using that for
addressing other issues ranging from habitat to carbon sequestration.
Chair Robbins asked for an update on the estimated percentages of the total
land area of the City and how much would be forested, prairie, or
developed. Manager Medrud said he believes the canopy percentage goal
is either 40% or 42 % overall for the City. The goal was based on land use
and the intensity of land use. Greenbelt or open space was assigned a 55%
canopy goal while single-family lower density development was assigned a
goal of 50% with commercial and industrial uses assigned a goal of 25%.
Staff continues to explore the tree credit concept to develop a similar type
of ranking for particular types of uses in specific areas.
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Chair Robbins inquired as to whether the City’s current coverage reflects
50% of the City’s forested areas versus open prairie land with grasses and
understory. Manager Medrud said forested areas with canopy in the City
equate to approximately 50% of the total land area in the City. Although,
native prairies are located within the City, they must be actively managed
as prairies otherwise they become populated with trees. The proposed
amendments would apply to the entire City. The intent is to preserve
existing trees and canopy through tree retention goals, as well as assigning
values for each property as part of the tree credit system to identify a
specific number of tree credits all properties should have. Some properties
could have more credits than required while other properties might have
less or no credits because of development. The expectation as
development occurs is to increase tree canopy in those areas.
Commissioner Kirkpatrick said he recalled that when the Commission
reviewed the plan, the City was in a better position of preserving its
existing canopy as opposed to the cities of Lacey and Olympia both of
which would need to develop a plan to improve canopy coverage.
Commissioner Varela asked whether the City is currently above the
threshold of the goal. Manager Medrud said it is likely the City is below
the goal of 42%. The goal was established with the understanding that the
City has much undeveloped forested land that would likely be developed
for industrial or commercial uses, which would result in a loss of canopy
coverage over time. The expectation at the end of the 20-year plan is to
ensure the City’s canopy coverage has increased realizing that some
canopy will be lost over time because of development.
Commissioner Kirkpatrick noted that the plan discusses the City’s wooded
areas, which would likely be removed as the land develops. There is no
reason to remove the trees and replant trees for another 40 years in an
urban area. It is important to identify lands where canopies will be lost in
the future. Manager Medrud replied that the intent of the Urban Forestry
Management Plan was to ensure that as the City develops there would be
more space in single-family neighborhoods to plant more trees to offset
those other losses.
Commissioner Kirkpatrick commented that with a large area not connected
to sewer, the Urban Forestry Management Plan does not address the loss of
houses and drain fields, which results in less area to plant trees. That
situation will increase as development of duplexes, triplexes, and quads are
built. Manager Medrud emphasized that the tree preservation code is
enacted when land is redeveloped from a lower intensity use, such as a
single house on a larger lot. The expectation is to short plat lots with water
and sewer connections to eliminate wells and onsite septic systems with the
remaining area available for planting. However, more consideration is
warranted in some situations where land is located too far to connect to
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sewer and water.
Commissioner Schumacher asked about the amount of City land ownership
in the City. Manager Medrud said the City Hall campus is approximately
10 acres in size in addition to 15 acres at the Trails End property, and golf
course acreage which is not developable. Commissioner Schumacher
offered that the City might consider leading by example by planting trees
on specific City-owned parcels. Manager Medrud said some groups, such
as the Stream Team are engaged in riparian plantings along the Deschutes
River; however, other considerations have been discussed such as whether
the City has any land to contribute to gopher habitat or for affordable
housing. Unlike other cities, the City lacks a sufficient land bank to
sponsor tree plantings.
Commissioner Kirkpatrick offered that the City could expand the sewer
system and remove all properties from septic systems resulting in the
creation of open land where trees could be planted. Connecting to the
sewer system before failure of a drain field would help property owners
save funds.
Commissioner Schumacher inquired about the percentage of the City
served by septic systems. Manager Medrud said a majority of the City’s
southeast and southwest corners are not served by sewer. The City
continues to extend sewer to the extent possible as part of a roadway
project. The issue is how sewer extensions are funded. The City, with
funding assistance from neighborhoods, could assist in extending sewer.
However, the City would not arbitrarily extend sewer without financial
contribution. In some situations, it would be beneficial to extend sewer
when development is anticipated within a span of five years to recoup the
cost. The City is pursuing some areas of the City to extend sewer and
water if there are a sufficient number of property owners who have the
financial means to connect.
Manager Medrud reported the City is required through the State Building
Council to adopt the Washington Wildland Urban Interface Code. The
code is a cross between the Building Code and Fire Code addressing those
areas with high vegetation and high-density development. The code is a
new statewide requirement. The Washington Department of Natural
Resources has completed mapping for wildland fire hazards. The
Department has assigned values dependent upon the level of vegetation and
development. The maps are available online. With the exception of the
area along Capitol Boulevard and I-5, most of the City is covered by the
code. The purpose of the code is to minimize building and development
activities that increase wildland fire. The code requires new structures to
be constructed to a specific fire resistance level, such as the type of roofing
materials, type of windows, doors, and siding. If structures are built to the
prescriptive fire resistance level, vegetation is allowed on the property. For
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structures not meeting the code, the structure must include a clear zone,
which could be between 30 and 100 feet around the perimeter of the
structure. Within the zone, trees are allowed as long as the canopy does
not extend closer than 10 feet from one tree to another tree. The new code
is having an impact on the urban forestry update process. Staff is
contemplating probable adoption of the code in July or August as required
by the state as part of the City’s building code update process. Staff is
considering adding a one-line exemption in the code addressing those
requirements. The code may require greater emphasis on seeking other
opportunities to plant trees that do not create risks.
Commissioner Kirkpatrick inquired as to whether the state has assigned a
state agency to assist municipalities in solving problems created by the
code. Manager Medrud said he does not believe a specific agency has been
assigned as staff recently learned about the code during the update of the
Hazard Mitigation Plan. One major element in the Hazard Mitigation Plan
is minimizing wildfire risk in the community in addition to other natural
hazards. The State Building Council is focused on minimizing risks and
harms while other state agencies have not learned about the potential
impacts of the code to react to the new requirements.
Commissioner Schumacher shared his experience of responding to a brush
fire in the Rochester area. The swiftness of the fire was incredible with
hundreds of first responders fighting the fire. It opened his eyes to the risks
facing everyone in the state. At that time, he reviewed a report prepared by
insurance companies in northern California that spoke to the average cost
during an initial build of a 2,000 square-foot home of less than $2,500 to
bring the structure to a fire-safe standard.
Commissioner Kirkpatrick noted that when he moved to his house, he had
the cedar shake roof replaced at a cost of more than $2,500. Unfortunately,
there are many cedar shake roofs in existence in the City representing one
of the biggest fire hazards for a house.
Manager Medrud advised that he would follow up with the City’s Building
Official to provide an estimate in the difference in costs of a typical home
versus a fire resistant home.
Manager Medrud invited feedback on the tree credit approach and its
applicability while understanding all properties would have an assigned
value. For properties below the value, specific actions would be required
to increase the value.
Commissioner Kirkpatrick asked about the cost of an average hourly tree
professional, as it is the main issue associated with the proposal. It would
be important to identify the cost of the proposal. Manager Medrud advised
that three members of the Tree Board could provide some information
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because they are tree professionals. He agreed to the importance of having
a better understanding of the potential costs of the proposal.
Chair Robbins suggested drafting an array of actions that might be
required, such as the actions to take and the approximate cost or other
alternatives in the interim.
Commissioner Edwards asked about the timeframe for planting trees to
achieve the proper tree credit. Manager Medrud said the amendment
includes some timelines for permits, but it is likely a timeline is not
included for replanting. It is important to include some flexibility because
of preferred planting times during the year. He offered to follow-up with
an answer.
Commissioner Varela noted that the average hourly cost of an arborist is
$20 to $40 per hour. He asked about the possibility of connecting with
local colleges and universities with arborist programs to leverage some
assistance. Manager Medrud replied that the hourly rate of an arborist is
likely much higher; additionally, much is dependent upon the code
requirements, such as preparation of an arborist report versus a site visit for
a quick tree survey.
Chair Robbins commented on the option of a neighborhood approach to
assist in balancing costs to avoid burdening a property owner. The intent is
promoting community values voiced by the community and supported by
City plans. It would be beneficial if the City could collaborate and share
some of the costs in areas that need to be replanted.
Commissioner Kirkpatrick questioned the process of informing property
owners of the requirements and the enforcement methods. Manager
Medrud said the City has a limited process for documenting the designation
of a heritage tree through the Auditor’s Office to ensure future owners are
aware of the heritage tree designation on their property. The formal
mechanism for informing property owners of the tree credit requirement
would be through the homeowners association through covenants. He
acknowledged that there are certain circumstances where the City would
want the information included on the property title; however, the intent is
not to pursue that course for tree credit requirements.
Discussion ensued on the difference between a significant tree and a
landmark tree. Chair Robbins commented on the importance of defining
the differences. Manager Medrud explained that landmark trees are any
tree above a certain diameter in breast height, such as a specific height
above the ground. Typically, landmark trees are at least 24 inches in
diameter dependent upon the species. The code includes specific
requirements for landmark trees in terms of acceptable and unacceptable
actions. Staff is working on identifying when it might be appropriate to
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remove a landmark tree.
Manager Medrud asked members to provide feedback on the Tree Account
in terms of funds supporting the fund and the withdrawal of funds from the
account. Commissioner Kirkpatrick said he supports the proposed version
as it includes the ability to use the funds in the Tree Account to purchase
trees for private properties. The new language in #7 that speaks to funding
of trees and vegetation giveaways or incentive programs was not included
in the existing ordinance. He appreciates the addition of the language.
Chair Robbins questioned whether funding for future monitoring efforts
also includes re-evaluation and status of parcels and whether a change in
tree credit value is required. Manager Medrud said the language is broad
as the intent is capturing those types of situations. The Urban Forestry
Management Plan would include timelines for re-evaluation. The City
recently received a grant to complete another street tree survey to update
the survey completed in 2018. A five-year cycle of evaluation is under
consideration for the amendment.
Commissioner Kirkpatrick spoke to the issue of equity and suggested the
City could evaluate areas in the City in need of trees with efforts focusing
the incentives in those areas without encountering legal challenges. Over
the years in areas where trees were not maintained properly the City could
prepare a development plan utilizing Tree Account funds. Manager
Medrud said the important consideration is to ensure some allowance is
included for ongoing maintenance of newly planted trees. The language
should encompass the broader goal rather than only the initial plantings.
Manager Medrud referred to major and minor permits and the differences
between the two types of permits. Commissioner Kirkpatrick said he
interprets a major permit for developers with minor permits focused on
land already developed with some exceptions requiring no permit.
Discussion followed on the different degrees of improvement to properties
that would trigger a major permit versus redevelopment of an entire parcel.
Requirements triggered for a major permit can be extensive. The question
is whether the requirements should be similar for both permits or whether a
minor permit has fewer requirements. For major permits, the City requires
an arborist report containing specific information, which takes time to
produce and increases the cost of developing the permit application.
Commissioner Kirkpatrick said most of the permit application is posted
online and consists of boilerplate language. Most contractors have the
ability to reproduce the application on a company computer; however, he
does not consider that to be a major issue.
Planner Smith-Erikson noted that when tree removal is involved, the City
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requires a professional to survey the trees and calculate the total tree credit
existing on the property. Commissioner Kirkpatrick advised that a general
contractor typically subcontracts that type of work to a tree professional.
Commissioner Schumacher commented on the complexity of the process
and frustrations encountered by property owners even though the City is
well intentioned. The process has become cumbersome with an application
of 140 pages and a requirement to identify significant trees, landmark trees,
heritage trees, and whether the project requires either a minor or major
permit. He questioned how an individual is expected to navigate the
process. He reviewed the materials several times and today would be
unable to describe the difference between landmark, heritage, and
significant trees. For example, if he wanted to add a shed in his backyard,
he has five large Douglas fir trees. He questioned whether that project
would require a major permit if he needed to remove two of the trees. He
questioned how families navigate the process of adding a 200-square foot
shed in their backyard. There should be a way to structure the process to
enable the consolidation of different types of trees so a property owner
would be able to identify the type of tree that conforms to the description.
He supports expansion of tree canopy within the City but the process has
become too granular and overwhelming.
Manager Medrud explained that staff has conveyed similar concerns
because of the complexity of the information. It is important that a person
who pursues the process only once or twice in their lifetime understands
the process. He acknowledged the concerns. Staff is addressing those
concerns several ways. The first is preparation of a user guide to walk a
person through the process with different pathways identified dependent
upon the type of project. The second way is simplifying the draft language.
Staff continues to contemplate whether the language is the best process and
continues to meet to discuss the issues and seek assistance from the
Commission on whether a requirement is necessary or whether there is
another alternative to achieve the same outcome.
Commissioner Kirkpatrick noted the draft is a work in progress and the
current allowance for homeowners to remove a specific number of trees
during a specific period would likely reappear in a revised draft. That
simplifies the process considerably as the homeowner would only be
required to obtain a tree removal permit.
Manager Medrud pointed to draft table in the draft as a starting point. The
consultant offered a proposal that staff believes was too aggressive in terms
of the number of trees that could be removed over a number of years. Staff
continues working on the proposal for review by the Commission in July.
The proposal would not apply to landmark or heritage trees. The landmark
trees code is aggressive as only removal of a landmark tree can occur
unless it is unhealthy or the applicant meets one of the exemptions. Staff
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continues to examine and refine language to ensure any requirements are
viable and realistic.
Chair Robbins referred to previous public comments about the ongoing
management of working forests and orchards that are not related to
removal of trees for development purposes. She asked about the status of
those situations with respect to the update. Manager Medrud said that in
those situations, staff is considering a requirement for a forest management
plan for managing trees in situations that are infrequent but are relevant to
the City.
Manager Medrud encouraged Commissioners to contact him with any
specific questions to enable collection and response so the Commission has
access to all the information.
Manager Medrud advised that all stakeholders will be updated on meeting
schedule changes.
ADJOURNMENT: Commissioner Schumacher moved, seconded by Commissioner Varela,
to adjourn the meeting at 8:14 p.m. A voice vote approved the motion
unanimously.
Prepared by Valerie Gow, Recording Secretary/President
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Agenda
PLANNING COMMISSION
MEETING AGENDA
Online via Zoom and In Person at
Tumwater Fire Department
Headquarters, Training Room, 311 Israel
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Tuesday, May 23, 2023
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1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call
3. Changes to Agenda
4. Commissioner's Reports
5. Manager's Report
6. Public Comment
7. Tree and Vegetation Preservation Regulation Update
8. Next Meeting Date - 06/13/2023 Joint Worksession with Tree Board
9. Adjourn
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