Planning Commission
Regular MeetingTumwater, WA · January 14, 2025
Minutes
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CONVENE: 7:00 p.m.
PRESENT: Chair Elizabeth Robbins and Commissioners Grace Edwards, Terry
Kirkpatrick, Gina Kotek, and Brandon Staff.
Staff: Deputy Director Brad Medrud, Sustainability Manager
Alyssa Jones Wood, and Housing and Land Use Planner Erica
Smith-Erickson.
CHANGES TO AGENDA: There were no changes.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: The minutes were corrected to reflect “Commissioner Staff” rather
PLANNING COMMISSION than “Councilmember Staff” in the motion after public testimony on
DRAFT MINUTES the last page of the minutes.
DECEMBER 10, 2024:
MOTION: Commissioner Edwards moved, seconded by Commissioner
Kotek, to approve the December 10, 2024 minutes as amended.
A voice vote approved the motion unanimously.
COMMISSIONER’S Chair Robbins noted that staff has advised of the lack of agenda
REPORTS: items for the January 28, 2025 meeting.
MOTION: Commissioner Kirkpatrick moved, seconded by Commissioner
Edward, to cancel the Commission’s January 28, 2025 meeting.
A voice vote approved the motion unanimously.
MANAGER’S REPORT:
ATTORNEY GENERAL’S Deputy Director Medrud reported he forwarded a copy of an
ADVISORY MEMORANDUM: Advisory issued by the State Attorney General’s Office reminding
municipalities that any discussions and evaluations of regulatory or
plan changes should ensure that actions do not result in
unconstitutional takings of private property or raise substantive due
process concerns. The City follows a process for legal review of
each document the Commission receives. It is important to be
aware of any issues and inform staff of any discrepancies within
documents the Commission reviews. The Advisory is an update by
the Attorney General’s Office to their 2018 version of the
document.
DRAFT 2025 PLANNING
COMMISSION MEETING Deputy Director Medrud referred to an updated meeting schedule
SCHEDULE with the next meeting scheduled on February 11, 2025. The agenda
includes continued discussion on the Climate Element and a review
of the Food System Plan with consultant Rebecca Potasnik.
Deputy Director Medrud advised of the departure of Assistant
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Transportation & Engineering Director Clint Ritter and
Transportation Engineer I Bernie Gertje. Transportation and
Engineering Director Brandon Hicks is serving in both roles as the
City recruits to fill the positions. Staff continues to move forward
on the update of the Transportation Plan. Director Dan Smith is
assisting with coordination of efforts. The joint tour with the
Council at the end of February is moving forward with an itinerary
under development. An open house is scheduled in March. In the
meantime, the transportation consultant is working on the update of
the Transportation Plan.
Staff is working to schedule approval of the update of the
Comprehensive Plan by the end of the year. The Commission is
scheduled to conduct a public hearing on the Comprehensive Plan
at its last meeting in December 2025. One ordinance will adopt all
Elements within the Comprehensive Plan. The proposed ordinance
will be considered for approval by the City Council in January
2026. The update of the development code will follow. Later in
the spring, the Commission will receive briefings on draft Elements
of the Comprehensive Plan. Staff continues to accommodate
particular deadlines for reviews of the Transportation Plan and
other Elements by other state agencies prior to finalizing the
ordinance.
Chair Robbins asked whether other jurisdictions are on the same
timeline, and whether Thurston County is on track with updating
the County-wide Policies. Deputy Director Medrud said the City of
Lacey and Tumwater are working on a similar timeline. The City
of Olympia is working to complete the plan by the end of the year
as Olympia’s Planning Manager is retiring in spring 2025. The
county is tracking with the timeline except for the County Joint
Plan and Title 22 updates. The staff member leading those efforts
left the county. Following recruitment by the county of the
position, a new staff member will assist Tumwater staff with the
update of Title 22 and any required changes to the Joint Plan. At
this time, staff has not received any drafts of any materials from the
county.
The Board of County Commissioners is scheduled to conduct a
public hearing on January 21, 2025 to consider amendments to the
County-wide Planning Policies. Two amendments are proposed
addressing state mandates for Tribal communications and language
Thurston Regional Planning Council’s (TRPC) Urban Growth
Management Committee drafted for urban growth area (UGA) land
swaps. Draft language was completed in August prompting a
jurisdictional meeting of planning managers and directors to review
the language and discuss necessary coordination between the
jurisdictions and the county when land swaps are proposed. Staff is
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considering drafting an interlocal agreement with Thurston County.
However, pending actions include final approval of the County-
wide Planning Policies and completion by Thurston County of the
environmental review of the proposed land swap process, scheduled
for completion by the end of January. The potential exists of an
appeal based on the public’s interest in the land swap proposal.
Staff anticipates that following acceptance of the interlocal
agreement, dates will be established for joint meetings with the
Thurston County Planning Commission and the Tumwater Planning
Commission to discuss the proposed process for UGA land swaps.
Those activities are not reflected on the Commission’s schedule at
this time.
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
UPDATE MASTER Deputy Director Medrud referred to an updated Comprehensive
SCHEDULE: Plan schedule with Commission meetings dates as well as Council
meeting dates. The timeline is continuously updated on the City’s
website page as well.
PUBLIC COMMENT: There were no public comments.
2025 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN Manager Jones Wood briefed the Commission on the status of
PERIODIC UPDATE – progress for drafting the new Climate Element of the
CLIMATE ELEMENT: Comprehensive Plan. Because the Element includes 201 actions,
the review will focus on greenhouse gas emissions within the
Climate Mitigation Sub-Element.
New state law requires the Climate Element to include a Climate
Mitigation Sub-Element to address reduction in greenhouse gas
emissions, vehicle miles traveled, and to advance environmental
justice to avoid detrimental environmental health disparities.
Community engagement to date includes establishment of a Climate
Policy Advisory Team comprised of members of affected
communities, key stakeholders, residents, and interested parties.
The team meets frequently and provides feedback. An open house
was hosted at ASHHO with approximately 60 individuals attending.
An online open house was hosted from August 15, 2024 to October
31, 2024 offering the same information as the in-person open house.
Other outreach has included information presented to the Thurston
Climate Mitigation Collaborative Community Workgroup, meetings
with Thurston Climate Action Team’s (TCAT) community
organizer, hosting informational tables at the Thurston County Food
Bank to encourage participation in the online open house, sharing
information with the South Sound Asian and Pacific Islanders
Coalition, and updating the City’s website and social media posts
on ways to participate in the update process for the Comprehensive
Plan. The draft Climate Element has been released for public
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review and comment.
Manager Jones Wood framed the discussion by asking for feedback
on any questions, specific or general comments to share on a
specific goal, any shift in action timelines for any of the goals, any
perceived unintended consequences or burdens associated with
policies and actions under the goals, and whether anyone in the
Tumwater community could be overlooked by any policy or action
under the goals. She noted that several of the actions are designated
with icons to reflect the community’s priorities. She invited
additional feedback on the goals and associated policies and
actions.
Greenhouse Gas Reduction Goals include:
Goal CL-4 Reduce greenhouse gas emissions from all building
types through energy conservation measures
prioritizing the deployment of financial resources and
programs that help finance or subsidize improvements
across Tumwater.
Chair Robbins commented that a designation for the
icons would be useful to explain the purpose.
Manager Jones Wood advised that additional icons
would be included in the next version of the draft. The
City is required to report on implementation progress
every five years to the Department of Commerce. Two
additional icons in the next version relate to whether
the action is measurable qualitatively or quantitatively
or whether the action is a state requirement.
Commissioner Kirkpatrick referred to action, “CL-
4.2.1 Require energy performance ratings and
disclosures for dwelling units at time of listing for sale
so that prospective buyers are informed before making
purchasing decisions” and questioned how staff plans
to implement that action. Manager Jones Wood
advised that the actions are scheduled for review by
the General Government Committee. Although the
City is not notified of home sales, other jurisdictions in
the Pacific Northwest and throughout the country have
implemented similar actions requiring home energy
scores to be disclosed at the time of listing real estate.
One option for implementation is adoption of an
ordinance requiring the action. The ordinance would
trigger a requirement for the Northwest Multiple
Listing Service (MLS) to add a field designating the
requirement. Other jurisdictions have noise
disclosure ordinances, such as Island County, where it
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is part of the sales process to inform perspective
buyers of air traffic noise.
Commissioner Kirkpatrick commented that when he
purchased his home there was no interaction with the
state involving the purchase. Manager Jones Wood
advised that the action would not involve the state
because it would be a City requirement implemented
through the MLS process for home sales.
Chair Robbins commented on the burden or
expectation of the listing service and whether the City
is obligated to compensate the service, adding another
cost to the City. She questioned the entity responsible
for assuming the cost. Manager Jones Wood
responded that the policy is scheduled for review by
the General Government Committee in February. She
offered to provide a copy of the draft ordinance. The
action was identified by the Council as a regional
priority for the Thurston Climate Mitigation
Collaborative to address specifically. Since 2023,
staff has been working on the action including much
stakeholder engagement involving legal staff and
representatives from MLS. The timeline of expected
passage and the effective date was also recommended
by MLS. The cost of a home energy score is
approximately $150 to $300 with funding allocated in
the City budget next year for low-income customers.
The City would assume the cost of contracting with a
national service provider for the required quality
assurance and quality control of an energy audit as
required by the U.S. Department of Energy. The cost
will be shared between the four largest jurisdictions in
the county as a component of an existing interlocal
agreement.
Commissioner Edwards suggested considering the
impact of the action. Although, it would be interesting
to know the energy score of a home, it likely would not
affect the sale. She asked about research completed to
ascertain whether the information would be desired by
homebuyers to determine if the program is worth
establishing. Manager Jones Wood commented that
individual homebuyers consider those issues as part of
the decision process. For example, one member of the
Community Advisory Workgroup for the Thurston
Climate Mitigation Collaborative wanted to become a
member because when she purchased her home, she
did not realize how expensive her energy bill would be
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because the house was too drafty. It is important for
homebuyers when making large financial decisions to
consider the full cost of ownership to include utility
bills. The City of Portland has implemented a similar
program for a number of years. Portland identified a
10-fold increase in homes with an energy score, which
resulted in more energy upgrades in homes.
In response to additional questions, Manager Jones
Wood advised that the four jurisdictions are working
on the same implementation actions with the goal to
streamline and standardize the process. Action CL-
4.2.4 to develop and adopt policies that require
existing dwelling units undertake an energy audit
during a substantial remodel is not scheduled until
2029. Buildings and energy are the largest emitting
sectors in Thurston County for greenhouse gas
emissions. Existing buildings are the largest sector.
Emissions reduction is a state requirement.
Chair Robbins questioned whether the action would be
similar for CL-4.3.1 requiring energy performance
ratings for nonresidential buildings be disclosed at the
time of application for tenants and at time of listing
for sales so that owners, tenants, and prospective
buyers are informed before making purchasing or
rental decisions. Manager Jones Wood advised that
the action is more difficult because although 95% of
home sales are listed by MLS, there is no single
platform for applicants who apply for a rental. The
action will require extensive coordination prior to
implementation. Some jurisdictions in the country
have implemented similar programs. The action is
complicated and will take time to research.
Chair Robbins questioned the difference in emissions
of residential versus non-residential uses. Manager
Jones Wood offered to provide a copy of the
greenhouse gas emissions inventory that documents
the percentages. Existing residential buildings are the
largest emitters of greenhouse gas emissions. Staff
has been tracking the information on an annual basis.
With the advent of the Washington Clean Energy
Transformation Act, many emissions are reduced
through clean energy by conversion to all-electric
homes.
Commissioner Kirkpatrick cited action CL-4.3.3 and
asked for the definition of “living walls.” Manager
Jones Wood explained that a “living wall” is a
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vertical wall covered by vegetation that can be either
internal or external. Living walls are intended to
reduce heat and are normally covered in green
vegetation. She noted that the footnote in the plan
does not define a living wall and offered to remove the
reference as suggested by Commissioner Kirkpatrick.
Commissioner Kotek requested clarification of the
information included for an MLS listed home in terms
of prior and current energy affordability of the home.
Manager Jones Wood said information is included on
the estimated annual energy bill by fuel type, as well
as an equivalent to a mile per gallon to demonstrate
efficiency rated from 1 to 10, and cost effective energy
efficiency improvements with a payback of 10 years or
less to improve the score. The report also includes
information on the reduction of associated energy
costs.
Commissioner Edwards questioned current avenues
available to obtain information on energy efficiency of
a home. Manager Jones Wood said some homebuyers
request utility data from Puget Sound Energy (PSE)
with some receiving the data. PSE energy
consumption reflects occupant behavior whereas the
home energy score considers the assets of the home
and not necessarily the number of occupants and
behaviors.
Goal CL-5 Expand the use of on-site renewable energy technology
(e.g., solar photovoltaics, battery storage, etc.) across
all building types through providing funds, code
changes, and educational programs.
Commissioner Kirkpatrick commented on the lack of a
completion date for action CL-5.1.3 while recognizing
the difficulty of securing funding sources.
Goal CL-6 Reduce greenhouse gas emissions by making it easier
for people to shift to low-/zero carbon transportation
modes through policy, programming, and regional
partnerships.
Chair Robbins questioned the lack of considering the
movement of goods in terms of impact. She asked how
the Climate Element in addressing the movement of
people also considers the movement of goods and
commerce activities. Manager Jones Wood cited some
actions undertaken by the City of Portland that staff
could explore as well as other examples. Chair
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Robbins advocated for including movement of goods
and services.
Commissioner Edwards suggested consideration of
many individuals who commute to the county for work,
such as state employees and others.
Commissioner Kirkpatrick recommended
strengthening action CL-6.2.2 by requiring the
installation of EV chargers in all new homes.
Commissioner Staff added that at the very least, the
action should require new homes to provide an
electrical 50-amp outlet.
Manager Jones Wood shared that the action was
recommended by a member of the Climate Policy
Advisory Team. The member, a single mother who is
also an electrician, rents an older home with outdated
wiring. She recently purchased an electric vehicle and
discovered she was unable to charge the car or even
plug into a 110 outlet as the home’s electrical system
is not grounded because of its age. The intent of the
action is for existing homes that are unable to support
electric vehicles. Providing incentives for smaller
scale landlords could help provide the electrical
capacity and wiring to support EV charging in
existing rental homes.
Commissioner Edwards commented on the tradeoffs of
more EV charging because it would reduce energy
efficiency in the home. Manager Jones Wood said that
the home energy score model does not necessarily
consider plug loads. The model considers larger
systems in homes, such as insulation, windows, etc.
Planner Smith-Erickson suggested revising the
language to improve clarity.
Goal CL-7 Reduce greenhouse gas emissions by making it easier
for people to shift to low-/zero carbon transportation
modes through policy, programming, and regional
partnerships. Reduce vehicle miles traveled by using
permitting, regulatory, and other land use tools to
promote multimodal transportation options and the use
of public transit throughout and beyond Tumwater.
Chair Robbins commented that action, “CL-7.1
Continue land use policies that support increased
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urban density and efficient transportation networks
and reduce urban sprawl” will be a key component of
addressing greenhouse gas emissions. It is important
to have transportation efficient land use patterns to
avoid excess or unnecessary transport.
Commissioner Staff conveyed support of the 10-minute
neighborhood concept. He and his family recently
considered moving; however, a major reason for not
moving was the lack of access in a new location to
services of any type within 15 minutes.
Discussion ensued on a suggestion to develop a map
of 10-to 15-minute neighborhoods in the City.
Goal CL-8 Strengthen existing policy and regulations to deploy
and enhance natural carbon solutions that are
ecosystem-appropriate, store carbon, and offer co-
benefits such as pollution reduction, wildlife habitat,
and climate resilience.
Commissioner Kirkpatrick asked about the status of
tree management efforts by the City. Deputy Director
Medrud said the issue was discussed by the Council
during its recent work session. Based on the joint
discussions during the December 10, 2024 work
session, staff proposed deferring all tree-related
amendments to 2026. Following input from
Commissioners and Councilmembers at the work
session and a subsequent discussion with the General
Government Committee, the committee recommended
deferring one of the tree protection issues. Staff
proposed to the Council that the 160 hours necessary
for the multifamily tax exemption program could be
deferred to 2026 to afford sufficient staff resources to
work on tree preservation efforts. The proposed work
schedule will be presented to the Council for approval
next week.
Chair Robbins referred to the community’s feedback
supporting the preservation of tree canopy in the City.
She suggested considering the terminology of
“preserving” as it likely entails preserving healthy
trees and not other mature trees which may be
unhealthy. Manager Jones Wood offered some
suggested language that speaks to preserving larger
trees of at least 24-inch diameter that sequester and
store more carbon. Chair Robbins said that the
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framing of the language acknowledges the City’s goal
of retaining larger older trees for sequestration,
cultural, and heritage purposes. It is also important to
acknowledge that it may not be possible to save every
individual tree. It is also important to recognize the
importance of increasing the canopy rather than only
preserving existing tree canopy.
Discussion ensued on the effects of climate change
and wildland fire impacting tree canopy. Chair
Robbins added that other types of vegetation also
sequester carbon.
In response to comments about the lands preserved
under the HCP and the potential to earn carbon
credits, Manager Jones Wood advised that with
limited staff resources it would be difficult to manage
a carbon market system on any scale. Staff
recommends focusing on the reduction of greenhouse
gas emissions rather than entering the carbon market.
Deputy Director Medrud added that TRPC also
explored potential models for prairie sequestration
values. As many prairie lands are located outside of
the area, it would not reflect the condition of local
prairies. Essentially, the region is not at a point
where it would be possible to assign values.
Manager Jones Wood noted that in 2026, the City will
begin some preliminary work to determine how to
measure ecosystem benefits to aid in City decision-
making.
Chair Robbins referred to action, “CL-8.1.6 Maximize
tree canopy coverage in surface parking lots.
Establish an initiative for identifying impervious
surfaces across parking lots for potential reforestation
or conversion” and questioned whether the action
pertains to derelict parking lots or existing usable
parking lots. Manager Jones Wood said the action
could apply to redeveloped or derelict parking lots.
The action would not affect existing usable parking
lots unless a change has been recommended. Chair
Robbins offered that language should also address the
possibility of converting impervious surfaces to
pervious surfaces.
Commissioner Edwards inquired about any potential
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future activity related to transitioning vacant office
buildings. Deputy Director Medrud replied that some
applicants are seeking potential changes of use. The
first project is the former occupied Department of
Health building. A proposal was submitted to convert
the building to multifamily housing as well as develop
a portion of the parking lot as multifamily housing.
However, the project has encountered a roadblock, as
the site is located under the Airport Overland, which
prohibits residential uses. He anticipates the City will
receive more proposals for conversion of buildings
and other commercial spaces.
Manager Jones Wood reported on feedback from the Community
Climate Policy Advisory Team that spoke to the previous draft
timelines as unacceptable and that some actions in the future should
be reconsidered because of the urgency of the climate crisis.
Subsequently, some timelines were shifted. To communicate the
information to the team and to the public, a gnat chart was created
reflecting the greenhouse gas emissions sub-elements. Most actions
have distinct start and end times with many actions ongoing. Most
actions are beginning in 2030 to meet the first greenhouse gas
emissions reduction goal. Timelines were shifted to align with the
urgency of the climate crisis and not necessarily only responsive to
the state of government.
NEXT MEETING DATE: The next meeting is on February 11, 2025.
ADJOURNMENT: Commissioner Edwards moved, seconded by Commissioner
Staff, to adjourn the meeting at 8:20 p.m. A voice vote
approved the motion unanimously.
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Agenda
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MEETING AGENDA
Online via Zoom and In Person at
Tumwater Fire Department
Headquarters, Training Room, 311 Israel
Rd. SW, Tumwater, WA 98501
Tuesday, January 14, 2025
7:00 PM
1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call
3. Changes to Agenda
4. Approval of Minutes
a. Planning Commission Draft Minutes December 10 2024
5. Commissioner's Reports
6. Deputy Director's Report
a. Attorney General’s Advisory Memorandum
b. Draft 2025 Planning Commission Meeting Schedule
c. Comprehensive Plan Update Master Schedule
7. Public Comment
8. 2025 Comprehensive Plan Periodic Update – Climate Element
9. Next Meeting Date - 01/28/2025
10. Adjourn
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