Public Health & Safety Committee
Regular MeetingTumwater, WA · November 14, 2023
Minutes
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CONVENE: 8:00 a.m.
PRESENT: Chair Leatta Dahlhoff and Councilmembers Peter Agabi and Angela
Jefferson.
Staff: City Administrator Lisa Parks, City Attorney Karen
Kirkpatrick, Finance Director Troy Niemeyer, Fire Chief Brian
Hurley, Police Chief Jon Weiks, Assistant Fire Chief Shawn
Crimmins, Police Commander Jay Mason, Communications Manager
Ann Cook, and Police Administrative Supervisor Laura Wohl.
CHANGES TO AGENDA: There were no changes to the agenda.
APPROVAL OF
MINUTES: PUBLIC
HEALTH & SAFETY
COMMITTEE, OCTOBER
10, 2023:
MOTION: Councilmember Jefferson moved, seconded by Councilmember
Agabi, to approve the minutes of October 10, 2023 as presented.
A voice vote approved the motion.
AGREEMENT WITH Fire Chief Hurley briefed members on a proposed agreement with the
THE CONFEDERATED Confederated Tribes of the Chehalis Reservation for Fire Protection
TRIBES OF THE and Emergency Services.
CHEHALIS
RESERVATION FOR Staff and the tribe have been working on an agreement to provide
FIRE PROTECTION AND services for the tribe’s Exit 99 reservation properties. The area is
EMERGENCY comprised of two areas with one property containing two parcels
SERVICES: housing the Flying J Truck Stop and a new wellness center. The
second property includes three properties with an existing business.
Services provided include fire and emergency services. The
discussions began in 2022 when the City recognized its responsibility
to provide fire and emergency services within City limits. During
discussions with the tribe, both parties recognized a common interest
of participating in a voluntary agreement for the City to provide
services and receive compensation for the services.
As the tribe is federally recognized, the properties are tax exempt. The
proposal is an initial two-year agreement with payment by the tribe to
the City of $32,500 per year. Beginning in the third year, the amount
would be adjusted to reflect a CPI escalator.
In 2022, the fire department responded to 33 calls for service at those
properties primarily involving the truck stop. Since the beginning of
2023, the department has responded to 22 calls for service.
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The proposed agreement supports Strategic Priorities and Goals 2023-
24 to Provide and Sustain Quality Public Safety Services and Build a
Community Recognized for Quality, Compassion, and Humanity.
Staff requests the committee recommend the Agreement with the
Confederated Tribes of the Chehalis Reservation for Fire Protection
and Emergency Services to the Council for approval at its next Council
meeting.
Councilmember Jefferson requested information on how the annual
amount was calculated.
Fire Chief Hurley explained that the proposal was based on a cost per
call basis in terms of the cost to the Tumwater Fire Department to
respond to a call. The analysis considered the department’s operating
budget and dividing that amount by the number of annual calls to
establish a per call cost. The fire department receives over 6,000 calls
for service each year. The department also had some available data on
the number of calls to the property and considered those factors in the
contract amount. The initial amount was near $50,000; however, the
contract was a negotiation with the tribe and City able to agree on a
final amount. During the third year, the agreement includes
application of the CPI index to the contract amount.
Chair Dahlhoff asked whether the amount is a basic calculation or
whether the type of calls was factored as well.
Fire Chief Hurley said the amount did not factor the type of calls. The
amount is based on an operating cost approach.
MOTION: Councilmember Jefferson moved, seconded by Councilmember
Agabi, to recommend the Agreement with the Confederated
Tribes of the Chehalis Reservation for Fire Protection and
Emergency Services to the Council for approval at the next
Council meeting. A voice vote approved the motion.
INTERGOVERNMENTAL Assistant Fire Chief Crimmins reported the request is an amendment
EMS CONTRACT to the current contract for advanced life services (ALS). In January
ADVANCED LIFE 2023, Thurston County Medic One and the City of Tumwater executed
SUPPORT (ALS) a contract for advanced life support coverage by Fire Department
FUNDING AMENDMENT Paramedics. The contract stipulates that any modifications to the
NO. 1: contract must be in writing and signed by both parties to the contract.
The standard of care for ALS units in Thurston County is two
paramedics assigned to one Medic unit. Tumwater Fire Department
is assigned Medic 5 as well as a medic unit stationed in the Rochester
area from the Tumwater Fire Department. The amendment enables
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staffing of a paramedic and an EMT in extreme situations, such as
during a mass casualty incident such as a train accident or another
pandemic, during extreme call volumes, any other natural disaster to
enable staffing of a medic unit with a paramedic and an EMT. The
staffing configuration is for a limited timeframe as the City’s standard
of care is staffing one medic unit with paramedics.
Staff recommends referring the proposed amendment to the City
Council for approval.
Councilmember Jefferson asked whether the increase in response
times would enable modification of the contract to make the change
permanent based on budgets and other constraints.
Assistant Fire Chief Crimmins said the recent increase in response
times is typically for basic life support call volume that tends to
increase annually. Thurston County Medic One is examining response
calls and call volumes and possibly adding another paramedic unit
within the county to address call times. The county medic system
operates on a two-paramedic system. The intent is to continue that
system as there are many benefits.
Councilmember Agabi asked about the current level of staffing.
Assistant Fire Chief Crimmins advised that the current staffing level
includes two paramedics assigned to each of the department’s
paramedic units. The City of Tumwater is assigned Medic 5 and
Medic 14 (Rochester). The proposal does not affect staffing but rather
enables those situations involving a natural disaster or other serious
event to add another medic unit with a paramedic and an EMT rather
than two paramedics.
Chair Dahlhoff referred to the fire study since the regional fire
authority measure was not passed by voters. She asked whether the
study would address future staffing needs.
Fire Chief Hurley replied that the department’s strategic planning will
consider all phases of the department’s operations. Thurston County
Medic One is a major partner for the department and other local
jurisdictions. How the service is provided will be part of the study
moving forward.
MOTION: Councilmember Agabi moved, seconded by Councilmember
Jefferson, to recommend the Intergovernmental EMS Contract
Advanced Life Support (ALS) Funding Amendment No. 1 with
Thurston County Medic One to the Council for approval at the
next Council meeting. A voice vote approved the motion.
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ADDITIONAL ITEMS: Chair Dahlhoff noted that future agenda items include an update from
the School Resource Officer at the December meeting; however, the
schedule does not reflect any update about the code violation process
or a timeline or update on the Police Study. She asked for an
approximate date for the updates.
City Attorney Kirkpatrick advised that staff scheduled an update on
District Court services at the January meeting.
City Administrator Parks advised that staff continues to work on the
code enforcement process and potential process improvements with an
update planned at the beginning of new year. The master plan for the
Police Department is underway with focus groups completed. An
update would likely be early next year.
Police Chief Weiks reported the department completed meetings with
focus groups during the month with staff currently processing data.
The committee will receive an update at the end of the first quarter
next year.
Chair Dahlhoff noted that the Council has scheduled a retreat in
January to review and identify new or update strategic goals and
priorities. She asked how the Council could be informed if the study
information would not be available prior to the retreat.
City Administrator Parks advised that the Council retreat is anticipated
to be a two-step process with the January meeting focused on a team
building exercise with strategic goals and priorities of focus during the
meeting at the end of February 2024. At that time, staff should be able
to provide some preliminary data from both the fire study and the
police study to help inform the Council moving forward.
Councilmember Jefferson asked about the status of discussion on
establishing a youth coalition. She is hopeful that staff schedules a
discussion within the next quarter.
Councilmember Agabi referred to his previous request earlier in the
year for disciplinary data involving School Resource Officers in the
Tumwater School District, which was never presented. He asked for
the committee to revisit the issue.
Police Chief Weiks advised of the possibility of requesting
disciplinary data from the school district; however, the police
department is not actively involved in the school district discipline
process. Staff will forward a request to the school district.
ADJOURNMENT: With there being no further business, Chair Dahlhoff adjourned
the meeting at 8:24 a.m.
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Agenda
PUBLIC HEALTH & SAFETY COMMITTEE
MEETING AGENDA
Online via Zoom and In Person at
Tumwater City Hall, Council Conference
Room, 555 Israel Rd. SW, Tumwater, WA
98501
Tuesday, November 14, 2023
8:00 AM
1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call
3. Approval of Minutes: Public Health & Safety Committee, October 10, 2023
4. Agreement with the Confederated Tribes of the Chehalis Reservation for Fire Protection and
Emergency Services (Brian Hurley)
5. Intergovernmental EMS Contract Advanced Life Support (ALS) Funding Amendment No. 1 (Shawn
Crimmins)
6. Additional Items
7. Adjourn
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