Public Works Committee
Regular MeetingTumwater, WA · February 3, 2022
Minutes
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CONVENE: 8:00 a.m.
PRESENT: Chair Eileen Swarthout and Councilmember Charlie Schneider.
Excused: Councilmember Michael Althauser.
Staff: Transportation and Engineering Director Brandon Hicks, Water
Resources and Sustainability Director Dan Smith, City Attorney Karen
Kirkpatrick, Water Resources Specialist Dave Kangiser, and Administrative
Assistant Cathy Nielsen.
APPROVAL OF
MINUTES:
OCTOBER 7, 2021 &
JANUARY 6, 2022:
MOTION: Councilmember Schneider moved, seconded by Chair Swarthout, to
approve the minutes of October 7, 2021 and January 6, 2022 as
published. Motion carried.
SINGLE J Director Smith requested the committee recommend the City Council
ENTERPRISES – approve and authorize the Mayor to extend the property license with Single J
PROPERTY Enterprises for an additional two years for the use of City property located
LICENSE: south of 93rd Avenue.
Director Smith displayed an aerial map of the subject property. The City of
Tumwater purchased the property in 2012 in support of the Southeast
Reservoir Project for the City’s drinking water utility. The project is
anticipated to begin construction in the next several years as staff seeks
funding for the project. The adjacent property owner requested a renewal of
the license with the City since 2014, enabling the property owner the ability
to have cattle graze on the property. The agreement benefits the City by
continual use and maintenance of the property. The license is considered a
zero-dollar license and is only for care, whereas the property owner is not
charged any rental fees but is required to maintain fences, an access road,
and control noxious weeds on the property. No new improvements would be
constructed on the property. The lease is non-transferrable and the property
owner is required to provide insurance for no less than $2 million for liability
and injury.
Chair Swarthout asked whether the City has licensed other properties in the
City. Director Smith replied the only other property for the Water Utility is
an easement provided to Black Hills Soccer located on the north area of the
soccer fields for a future wellfield. Staff is currently re-evaluating the use of
the property.
Director Hicks added that another parcel owned by the City is located off
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Linda Street, which is leased to Homes First, as the property is the site of a
future road extension.
CONSENSUS: Councilmember Schneider moved, seconded by Chair Swarthout, to
recommend the City Council approve and authorize the Mayor to
extend the Property License with Single J Enterprises for an additional
two years for the use of City property located south of 93rd Avenue.
Motion carried.
DRAINAGE DESIGN Specialist Kangiser briefed members on updates to the City’s Drainage
AND EROSION Design and Erosion Control Manual as required by the Department of
CONTROL MANUAL Ecology through the City’s NPDES stormwater permit.
REVISIONS:
Specialist Kangiser reported the updates maintain compliance with the
permit to protect water quality during construction and industrial activities.
The proposed updates are posted on the City’s website for public comments
until March 5, 2022. Additionally, some administrative changes to the
manual are required, such as updates to staff information and web links, etc.
Specialist Kangiser reviewed the proposed updates:
1. The change is to modeling and engineering terminology and
methodology and using an updated version of hydrology modeling.
2. The change applies to redevelopment hard surface thresholds to
ensure consistency in both new development and redevelopment
projects.
3. The change allows the use of neighboring properties or offsite areas
to discharge stormwater as long as stormwater best management
practices (BMPs) are in place and stormwater discharge is to the
same receiving water.
4. The change aligns the construction stormwater pollution permit to the
City’s stormwater permit for source control during construction
activities.
5. The change addresses soil capacity for treatment when low impact
development (LID) facilities are installed to ensure soil treatment
capacity is able to treat stormwater as it moves through the system.
6. The proposed speaks to discharges to marine waters, which does not
apply to the City as the City has no marine waters.
7. The proposal addresses concrete washout of BMPs whereby a
contractor is able to use a pre-formed area designated as a future
form as an area to wash small hand tools used in concrete work.
8. The change is comprised of numerous source control BMPs such as
goose excrement and color events (outdoor events.)
9. The change pertains to wetlands protection and modeling of high
quality wetlands.
10. The proposed change is not a requirement by the Department of
Ecology. The City proposes increasing stormwater bonds from 15%
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to 25% to align with neighboring jurisdictions and to ensure
contractors are engaged and accountable for stormwater construction
activities.
Director Smith encouraged the committee to share information on any other
areas of stormwater staff should consider or explore. Staff will research the
questions and inquires and provide an update. The City’s stormwater bond is
a significant update as it has not been updated for several years. In some
situations, the stormwater bond is insufficient to motivate contractors to
return and repair an issue staff discovered following completion of
construction or when an issue occurred within the two-year window
following the end of construction. The public process for the proposed
changes is in process with staff sending information to stakeholders and
others.
Specialist Kangiser reported staff is hosting a listening session for interested
parties planning to submit comments or who have questions on the proposed
updates. He is working with Communications Manager Cook to develop the
timeline. Following closure of public comments on March 5, 2022, staff
anticipates final adoption of the update by early summer.
The committee and staff discussed issues associated not only with goose
excrement but with pet and cattle waste. Specialist Kangiser explained that
goose waste is mostly associated with waterfront homes and affects water
quality more than other types of animal waste. The City has developed
targeted messaging for waterfront homeowners to help control goose waste
and deter geese.
Councilmember Schneider referred to a local resident who has commented to
the Council during several meetings and has forwarded emails about issues
surrounding the Hopkins drainage ditch. It appears the culverts are located
off 93rd Avenue and Tilley Road and that there has been a difference in flows
since the subdivision was constructed, although he is uncertain as to the
cause or the reasons. He asked whether the drainage ditch is located within
the City limits.
City Attorney Kirkpatrick advised that staff is investigating the complaint
and should confine responses to any questions to the extent of factual
information in terms of the geography and location.
Director Hicks reported the Hopkins drainage ditch is not located within the
city limits of Tumwater.
Director Smith referred to goose waste and standards in the manual
addressing pet waste and agricultural activities. Best management practices
have been adopted in the manual for activities that could impact stormwater.
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Chair Swarthout asked whether the manual addresses the amount of
impervious surface allowed for development projects. Specialist Kangiser
referred to a flow chart staff uses to determine actions with respect to the
percentage of impervious surface allowed and types of mitigation measures.
Each situation is different because it is based on soil type, hydrology, and
location. Using pervious pavement in some areas is more conducive than
other areas, which is why staff utilizes a process using the flow chart for
each situation to determine appropriate decisions.
OTHER BUSINESS: Chair Swarthout commented on the demolition of the bank at the intersection
of Capitol Boulevard and Trosper Road. Director Hicks advised that
demolition of the bank should be completed by the early next week. Two
structures located on Lee Street are scheduled for demolition in the next day
with both removed by next week followed by clean-up of the sites.
Councilmember Schneider asked about the next steps following demolition
and clean-up of the three structures. Director Hicks said once the sites are
stabilized, the sites will remain vacant until the City releases the bid for the
project that is anticipated to occur by April with construction beginning by
mid-summer. Most of the construction this year will be utility work with
some limited road construction.
ADJOURNMENT: With there being no further business, Chair Swarthout adjourned the
meeting at 8:27 a.m.
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Agenda
PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE
AGENDA
Online via Zoom
Thursday, February 03, 2022
8:00 AM
1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call
3. Approval of Minutes: October 7, 2021 & January 6, 2022
4. Single J Enterprises – Property License (Dan Smith)
5. Drainage Design and Erosion Control Manual Revisions (Dave Kangiser)
6. Additional Items
7. Adjourn
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