Historic Preservation Commission Special Meeting
Special MeetingUrbana, IL · May 2, 2018
Minutes
May 2, 2018
MINUTES OF A SPECIAL MEETING
URBANA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
DATE: May 2, 2018 APPROVED
TIME: 8:03 p.m.
PLACE: City Council Chambers, Urbana City Building, 400 South Vine Street, Urbana, Illinois
MEMBERS PRESENT Matt Metcalf, Alice Novak, Gina Pagliuso, Trent Shepard, Kim
Smith
MEMBERS EXCUSED Scott Dossett, David Seyler
STAFF PRESENT Kevin Garcia, Planner II; Marcus Ricci, Planner II
OTHERS PRESENT Ilona Matkovski, Pierre Moulin, Dennis Roberts, Adam Rusch,
Ryan Schriefer
1. CALL TO ORDER, ROLL CALL AND DECLARATION OF QUORUM
Chair Novak called the meeting to order at 8:03 p.m. Roll call was taken, and a quorum was
declared present.
2. CHANGES TO THE AGENDA
There were none.
3. WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
There were none.
4. LINCOLN SQUARE VISIONING EXERCISE
Kevin Garcia, Planner II, gave a brief presentation on the following:
What’s in your Square? project initiative, which is to re-energize the nine-block area
bounded by Elm Street, Vine Street, Illinois Street and Race Street. The area includes
Lincoln Square Mall, public parking lots, and the Lincoln Landmark Hotel.
Exercise 1: A Great Place
Close your eyes and imagine a great public place that you have been to.
What makes the place great?
What activities are happening around you?
What can you see? What can you hear? Smell?
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Open your eyes and write down the first thoughts that come to your mind about the
great place you are thinking of.
Also write down the name of your great place.
Responses included cemetery in Rome that was lush, green, eclectic and had great
statuary; New Hope, Pennsylvania, that has a lot of history with buildings going back
to 18th century and a river; Rockport, Massachusetts, has people interacting with each
other, eclectic with interesting art stores, local shops, restaurants and cafes, concert
venue, beach and housing; European plaza with the upper floors for living and
working and the lower floor is for a variety of community retail and restaurant spaces;
plaza in Siena, Italy, includes not only the place but also the surroundings of the
place, garlic smells, cultural events like concert venues, sidewalk cafes and no
awareness of cars; Guanajuato, Mexico, is a walkable community with great
architecture, lots of greenery.
Exercise 2: The Square Cloud
Write down five or six action words that would capture what you would like to see in
the nine-block area.
Write down activities or destinations that you would like to see.
Write down larger ideas or concerns that you may have.
Responses included the following: art exhibits, watching people exercise, meeting
friends and eating, walkable, music, shop, pedestrian-friendly, indoor/outdoor spaces,
congregating spaces, colorful, natural materials, serene, entertainment, hotel, cafes,
walking paths, lively, open, cultural opportunities, greenery, diverse (inter-
generational)
Exercise 3: Mapping
The Commission members worked together on mapping their visions, which included
mixed facilities for the market, store fronts, plazas, green spaces, public art, cafes,
small-scale restaurant, water feature/fountain, whale, boutique and hotel, second-story
shops, walkable trails with different lengths, and historical markers.
5. AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION
There was none.
6. ADJOURNMENT
The special meeting was adjourned at 9:10 p.m.
Submitted,
Lorrie Pearson, AICP
Historic Preservation Commission Recording Secretary
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MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
URBANA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
DATE: May 2, 2018 APPROVED
TIME: 7:00 p.m.
PLACE: City Council Chambers, Urbana City Building, 400 South Vine Street, Urbana, Illinois
MEMBERS PRESENT Matt Metcalf, Alice Novak, Gina Pagliuso, Trent Shepard, Kim
Smith
MEMBERS EXCUSED Scott Dossett, David Seyler
STAFF PRESENT Kevin Garcia, Planner II; Marcus Ricci, Planner II
OTHERS PRESENT Ilona Matkovski, Pierre Moulin, Dennis Roberts, Ryan Schriefer
1. CALL TO ORDER, ROLL CALL AND DECLARATION OF QUORUM
Chair Novak called the meeting to order at 7:03 p.m. Roll call was taken, and a quorum was
declared present.
2. CHANGES TO THE AGENDA
There were none.
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
The minutes of the October 12, 2017 Historic Preservation Commission special meeting were
presented for approval.
Chair Novak made the following amendments to the minutes:
Page 1, Others Present – “Seokwaoo”
Page 2, Written Communications – “Letter from Ted Christy, Associate Director for Project
Planning in Facilities and Services at the University of Illinois in response to the
Commission’s letter regarding Mumford House’s red x in the Campus Master Plan Update”
Mr. Metcalf made the following amendments to the minutes:
Page 5, Monitoring of Historic Properties, Mumford House, 2nd Paragraph, 2nd Sentence –
“He mentioned that last spring he was giving taking a course on “Cultural Heritage” …”
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Mr. Shepard moved that the Historic Preservation Commission approve the minutes as amended.
Ms. Smith seconded the motion. The minutes were approved as amended by unanimous voice vote.
4. WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
There were none.
5. AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION
Dennis Roberts approached the Historic Preservation Commission to talk about the plaque that
was dedicated to the Cohen Building at 136 West Main Street. It signifies the historical
importance of Nat Cohen’s personality and work for the Urbana community. Mr. Cohen was an
avid musician, an art-associated person, opera singer, and a cigar connoisseur. The building was
designed by Joseph Royer.
Mr. Shepard asked if Mr. Roberts had contacted the owner about the plaque. How did it come
about for a plaque to be installed on the building? Mr. Roberts stated that he has been promoting
the placement of plaques on buildings in the downtown area. There are many uniquely-
positioned buildings in the community that were designed by Joseph Royer, so he felt it was
important. He talked with Dan Maloney, the owner of the Cohen Building, and Mr. Maloney
was interested in purchasing and installing the plaque. He believed it would draw some attention
to the revitalization of the building.
Mr. Shepard inquired what the relationship was between Nat Cohen and Sol Cohen. Mr. Roberts
explained that Sol was one of Nat’s three children.
Ms. Pagliuso questioned if Mr. Roberts had talked with Mr. Maloney about nominating the
property for landmark status. Mr. Roberts replied that Mr. Maloney is an advocate for creating a
historic district in Downtown Urbana.
6. CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARINGS
HP-2018-COA-02 – A request by Pierre Moulin for a Certificate of Appropriateness to
modify approved plans regarding a small number of windows at 1404 South Lincoln Avenue.
Chair Novak opened the public hearing for this case. Kim Smith recused herself due to a conflict
of interest.
Kevin Garcia, Planner II, presented the staff report for the case to the Historic Preservation
Commission. He began by explaining that the reason for the proposed request was to replace
some of the historic windows. He described the window replacements and elevations in more
detail. He reviewed the requirements for a Certificate of Appropriateness. He read the options
of the Historic Preservation Commission and presented City staff’s recommendation for
approval.
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Chair Novak asked if the Historic Preservation Commission members had any questions for City
staff. There were none. Chair Novak opened the hearing for public input. She invited the
petitioner to speak.
Pierre Moulin, owner of the subject property, and Ryan Schriefer, contractor for the renovations,
approached the Historic Preservation Commission to speak.
Mr. Moulin stated that he did not originally plan to have an apartment unit in the basement. He felt
replacing the windows would improve livability. He corrected the staff report saying that they
would be replacing three windows instead of two in the basement with new casement windows as
shown in Exhibit C of the written staff memo dated April 26, 2018. Another correction was that
they planned to use salvaged windows to replace the northwest side windows.
Ms. Novak asked if the muntins or mullions of the new windows were made of wood. Mr.
Schriefer replied that they would be aluminum wrapped cladding in the same color as the existing
windows. They will look similar to the existing windows with regards to the muntins. He talked
about the window wells, and flashing them out to prevent flooding. The windows would not be
visible as they would be installing guardrails around the window wells.
Mr. Shepard questioned if the previous owner that filled in the window wells had used something to
protect the window or did they just put dirt up against the glass. Mr. Schriefer stated that they had
used plywood to cover the window wells and poured concrete over the top of the plywood, so there
was a hollow space between the window and the plywood.
Mr. Metcalf asked the applicant to describe the degradation of the original windows. Mr. Moulin
explained that the windows were so corroded that he could break any part of the east-side window
just by pushing with two fingers.
With no further input from the audience, Chair Novak closed the public input portion of the hearing
and opened it for discussion and/or motion(s) by the Commission.
Mr. Shepard expressed approval of the proposed request. The applicant and contractor had
researched the windows well. He moved that the Historic Preservation Commission approve and
grant the proposed Certificate of Appropriateness in Case No. HP-2018-COA-02 relying on the
excellent analysis done by City staff. Mr. Metcalf seconded the motion.
Ms. Pagliuso moved to amend the motion to add a notation that the three windows, not two, on the
north side of the basement would be replaced by new windows. Mr. Shepard, as mover, accepted
the friendly amendment to his motion. Mr. Metcalf, as seconder, accepted the amendment as well.
Roll call on the amended motion was as follows:
Mr. Metcalf - Yes Ms. Novak - Yes
Ms. Pagliuso - Yes Mr. Shepard - Yes
The motion was approved by unanimous vote.
Ms. Smith rejoined the other Commission members at the dais.
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7. OLD BUSINESS
Potential National Register District in Downtown Urbana
Mr. Garcia stated that Planning staff had begun the process of applying for Downtown Urbana to
become a historic district on the National Register. However, staff has become inundated with
numerous cases and other tasks that have consumed their time, so they were not able to get the
nomination put together at this time. There is a lot of support in creating a district downtown.
There is approximately $5,000 in a historic preservation fund, and Planning staff would like to get
approval from the Historic Preservation Commission to use those funds to hire a consultant to write
the nomination. This would allow the City to move forward with the nomination.
Chair Novak explained more details about the fund. T-Mobile constructed a cell phone tower
without going through the Section 106 process, which is the Review and Compliance process for
actions involving federal or state money. As a result of the litigation against T-Mobile, the Urbana
Historic Preservation Commission received $5,000. Mr. Garcia added that while $5,000 may not be
enough to get the entire nomination put together, it would help. There are many resources available,
and it is a matter of putting the information together and making sense of it in nomination form.
Ms. Pagliuso wondered if there was anything as a Commission they could do to help with the
research. Ms. Novak explained that there was a group of volunteers who wanted to help but
sometimes it is hard for volunteers to make time to put forth the effort.
Mr. Shepard asked if there were any local consultants that the City could hire to help with the
nomination. Ms. Novak was sure that there are consultants available within the State of Illinois.
She did not know of anyone locally in Champaign or Urbana. The buildings have already been
surveyed.
Ms. Novak asked how many buildings would be included in the nomination. Mr. Garcia said
around 40 buildings. Ms. Novak stated that it would require a description for each building or it
could be a spreadsheet with details.
Ms. Pagliuso inquired what the City envisioned the district to be. Mr. Garcia replied that City staff
had the former Illinois Historic Preservation Association (IHPA) review a map of the downtown
area. After having discussions with IHPA staff, they came up with the following district: the Kirby
Firestone building east to Broadway Avenue and a little north from there. The proposed district
would be the core of Downtown Urbana.
Ms. Novak expressed concern about spending the $5,000 and not having a finished nomination.
She asked if it was possible for Planning staff to send out a request for proposal (RFP) without
accepting a response. Mr. Garcia stated that he would need to research it.
Mr. Metcalf suggested that they have different levels of the process; for example, one person could
write all of the descriptions. This would require identifying the different steps and doing an
estimate, which would require some staff time. Once most of the leg work was done, then
volunteers could tie it altogether. Ms. Novak commented that she would support that.
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Mr. Shepard said that there was no point in hanging on to the money. He could not see a better use
for it than getting a start on a nomination for a historic district in Downtown Urbana. He would be
in favor of using the money to make progress on a nomination of this kind.
Ms. Smith wondered if other communities have ever hired consultants to work on writing
nominations. If so, then they would know about how much the cost would be. Mr. Garcia stated
that he has contacts at the State Historic Preservation Office to see if there had been any similar
endeavors.
The Commission unanimously agreed to allow City staff to use the funds to hire a consultant to
begin writing a nomination for a Downtown Urbana Historic District.
8. NEW PUBLIC HEARINGS
There were none.
9. NEW BUSINESS
There was none.
10. MONITORING OF HISTORIC PROPERTIES
Buena Vista Court
Chair Novak recalled Louise Kuhny speaking during the Audience Participation portion of their
previous meeting about seeing if there were any existing codes allowing the Historic Preservation
Commission to require improvements to historic properties. Buena Vista Court is a historic district
on the National Register as well as a local historic district. Mr. Garcia said that he would research
this.
Mumford House
Ms. Pagliuso reported that she attended a charrette for the University of Illinois Campus Master
Plan Update. She got all kinds of assurances that the Mumford House was protected.
Mr. Metcalf thought it might be worth inviting the new Historic Preservation Officer for the
University of Illinois to attend one of the Commission’s meetings.
Royer House at 801 West Oregon
The Historic Preservation Commission briefly discussed the Royer House.
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Zeta Tau Alpha Sorority House
Mr. Garcia reported that he accompanied a city inspector to check on the progress of the
improvements being made. The work is progressing very nicely. Ms. Pagliuso stated that she
walked around the house and was happy to see all of the changes being made.
11. STAFF REPORT
There was none.
12. STUDY SESSION
There was none.
13. ANNOUNCEMENTS
Chair Novak stated that, although the Commission did not have time to pull together planned
activities for Historic Preservation month, she and Brian Adams would be hosting an evening in the
Champaign County Archives at the Urbana Free Library on Wednesday, May 9, 2018 from 7:00
p.m. to 8:00 p.m. They would be helping people research their properties.
Brian Adams would be presenting on Joseph Royer on Thursday, May 3, 2018 at the Champaign
Public Library from 7:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. He will also be presenting on the architect, Nelson
Strong Spencer, on Thursday, May 24, 2018 at the Champaign Public Library from 7:00 p.m. to
8:00 p.m..
14. ADJOURNMENT
Mr. Shepard moved to adjourn the meeting at 7:58 p.m. Ms. Smith seconded the motion. The
meeting was adjourned by unanimous voice vote.
Submitted,
Lorrie Pearson, AICP
Historic Preservation Commission Recording Secretary
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Agenda
NOTICE OF SPECIAL MEETING
URBANA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
DATE: Wednesday, May 2, 2018
TIME: 7:00 pm following the regular meeting
PLACE: City Council Chambers
Urbana City Building
400 South Vine Street
Urbana, IL 61801
SPECIAL AGENDA
1. CALL TO ORDER, ROLL CALL, AND DECLARATION OF QUORUM
2. CHANGES TO THE AGENDA
3. WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
4. LINCOLN SQUARE VISIONING EXERCISE
City staff will lead the Historic Preservation Commission in a visioning exercise
regarding the area around Lincoln Square.
5. AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION
6. ADJOURNMENT
NOTICE OF REGULAR MEETING
URBANA HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
DATE: Wednesday, May 2, 2018
TIME: 7:00 p.m.
PLACE: City Council Chambers
Urbana City Building
400 South Vine Street
Urbana, IL 61801
AGENDA
1. CALL TO ORDER, ROLL CALL, AND DECLARATION OF QUORUM
2. CHANGES TO THE AGENDA
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Minutes from the October 12, 2017 Historic Preservation Commission Regular Meeting
4. WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
5. AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION
6. CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARINGS
HP-2018-COA-02: A request by Pierre Moulin for a Certificate of Appropriateness to
modify approved plans regarding a small number of windows at 1404 South Lincoln
Avenue.
Original Staff Memo dated March 29, 2018:
https://www.urbanaillinois.us/sites/default/files/attachments/HP-2018-COA-02-1404-
S-Lincoln-Ave-Memo_0.pdf
Supplemental Staff Memo dated April 26, 2018:
https://www.urbanaillinois.us/sites/default/files/attachments/Supplemental%20Memo
%20-%20Full.pdf
7. OLD BUSINESS
8. NEW PUBLIC HEARINGS
9. NEW BUSINESS
May 2, 2018
10. MONITORING OF HISTORIC PROPERTIES
11. STAFF REPORT
12. STUDY SESSION
13. ANNOUNCEMENTS
14. ADJOURNMENT
NOTE: Please note that the details of a request or application related to an agenda item may
change during the public review process.
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