Board of Architectural Review
Regular MeetingVienna, VA · August 15, 2019
Minutes
Town of Vienna 127 Center Street South
Vienna, Virginia 22180
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Meeting Minutes
Board of Architectural Review
Thursday, August 15, 2019 8:00 PM COUNCIL CHAMBERS-VIENNA TOWN
HALL
1. Roll Call
The Board of Architectural Review met in regular session in the Vienna Town Hall, 127
Center Street, South Vienna, Virginia, with Paul Layer presiding as Chair. The following
members were present: Roy Baldwin, Michael Cheselka, and Patty Hanley. Andrea West,
Planner, and Sharmaine Abaied, Board Clerk, were present.
Mr. Layer opened the meeting for the Board of Architectural Review and asked for the roll
to be called.
ROLL CALL:
Ms. Abaied called roll with Roy Baldwin, Paul Layer, Michael Cheselka, and Patty Hanley
being present.
2. Approval of Minutes
MEETING MINUTES:
Mr. Cheselka made a motion to approve the July 2019 meeting minutes.
Mr. Baldwin seconded the motion.
Motion: Cheselka
Second: Baldwin
Approved: 4-0
3. Regular Business
515 Maple Avenue West - Soleil Nail Spa - Signage
Request for approval of one wall sign and one tenant panel replacement for Soleil Nail Spa
located at 515 Maple Ave W, Docket No. 38-19-BAR, in the C-1 Local Commercial zoning
district; filed by Le Pham, business owner.
Ron Hamed of R P Sign was present to represent the application.
Mr. Cheselka stated he was not fond of the box signs anymore and would like to see the
phased out.
Ms. Hanley asked if the dimension of the sign would allow the blue to come through. Mr.
Hamed stated it was a box with white lettering. Mr. Layer stated that Ms. Hanley
suggested the space behind the sign, the façade of the building, is showing with the
previous sign and it does not show with the new sign. He then asked if the sign would go
from the trim of the window to the trim above. Mr. Layer stated that an inch and a half
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above and below the sign should be part of the motion and the revision should be presented
to staff for verification. There was continued discussion regarding the placement of the
sign on the façade.
Ms. Hanley made a motion that the request for approval of one wall sign, and one tenant
panel replacement for Soleil Nail Spa located at 515 Maple Ave W, Docket No.
38-19-BAR, be approved with the proviso that staff verifies that there is at least 1 ½ inches
above and 1 ½ inches below between the sign and the trim.
Motion: Hanley
Second: Baldwin
Approved: 3-1
Nay: Cheselka
1009 Moorefield Hill Grove SW - Exterior Modifications - Solar Panels
Request for approval of exterior modifications (solar panel installation) located at 1009
Moorefield Hill Grove SW, Docket No. PF-39-19-BAR, in the RTH Townhouse district;
filed by Solar Energy World on behalf of homeowner.
Mr. Jose Magana Rendon was present the represent the application. He gave a brief
description of the solar panels that were proposed to be installed, and stated he did have his
HOA’s approval.
Ms. Hanley asked about the process for those types of applications. Ms. West mentioned
the code did require the application was required to go before the Board. Discussion
continued.
Mr. Baldwin made a motion that the request for approval of exterior modifications (solar
panel installation) located at 1009 Moorefield Hill Grove SW, Docket No. PF-39-19-BAR,
be approved as submitted.
Motion: Baldwin
Second: Hanley
Approved: 4-0
703 Hunter Court SW - Exterior Modifications - Solar Panels
Request for approval of exterior modifications (solar panel installation) located at 703
Hunter Ct SW, Docket PF-40-19-BAR, in the RTH Townhouse district; filed by Solar
Energy World on behalf of homeowner.
Mr. Paul Skorochod was present to represent the application.
Mr. Baldwin inquired about the location of the solar panels.
Mr. Cheselka made a motion that the request for approval of exterior modifications (solar
panel installation) located at 703 Hunter Ct SW, Docket PF-40-19-BAR, be approved as
submitted.
Motion: Cheselka
Second: Baldwin
Approved: 4-0
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711 Hunter Ct SW - Exterior modifications - Fence
Request for approval of exterior modifications (fence) located at 711 Hunter Ct SW,
Docket No. PF-41-19-BAR, in the RTH Townhouse district; filed by Se & Sue Kang,
homeowner.
Ms. Sue Kang was present to represent the application.
Ms. Hanley inquired about the existing fence, which Ms. Kang stated was the neighbor’s
fence. Ms. Kang also stated she would be using what the HOA required.
Mr. Baldwin made a motion that the request for approval of exterior modifications (fence)
located at 711 Hunter Ct SW, Docket No. PF-41-19-BAR, be approved as submitted.
Motion: Baldwin
Second: Cheselka
Approved: 4-0
245 Maple Avenue West - Vienna Market
Request for approval of Vienna Market, a new mixed-use project, at the former Marco Polo
Restaurant site, located at 245 Maple Ave W, Docket No. 21-19-BAR, in the MAC Maple
Avenue Commercial Zone zoning district; filed by Nate Robbins of Northfield
Development.
Mr. Nate Robbins and Glen Sutter were present to represent the application. Mr. Robbins
began with the rendering that the architectural firm designed which showed the town
houses, the landscaping plan, the park, and how the retail will look.
Mr. Robbins pointed out the changes by elevation.
The Maple Avenue view: the color of the retaining wall was changed, different scheme
numbers, which corresponded to the material boards (for clarity of materials used at which
elevation), the location of a future mural, and a small wall adjustment at the edge of the
retail. Several windows had been added to the side to address Maple Avenue, angled bay
windows, varying cornice detail, and the height and shape of the bay windows on the
townhouses. Mr. Robbins also stated each doorway was special with unique designs.
The Rear Side of the townhomes: parking garage areas for cars and entrance to homes,
doorways if walking up the backside, wrap around brick at the edges of the townhouses,
aluminum railings were added, and varying heights of the buildings and cornices.
The Townhomes Side elevation: differing cornice details at the parapets on the front and
sides, added a significant number of windows to the side, angled bays on the sides to show
projection. The utility shed on the sides doors were changed from flat panel door to a
six-panel door. The addition of a deck on top of the shed with a door, two windows, and
intricate rail detail.
The Pleasant Street view: five of the 4-story elevations, 2 of the 3-story elevations. Every
unit has a front bay projection, not flat fronts. There are flat roofs and mansard roofs, as
well as traditional dormer windows and barrel dormer windows. The front veneers are
brick with pre-cast, and painted brick colors. Some of the straight window and door
pre-cast head features have added elevations with angled features to give it interest. All
front doors are recessed allowing a covered entry to each unit, and each door is different to
add interest. Brick rustication was added to further distinguish each unit.
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The Rears of the townhomes: All the rears have Hardie siding and Hardie trim, flat panel
garage doors with not windows. Rear covered porch with aluminum Trex railing, and
black architectural shingle.
Mr. Robbins pointed out the retaining wall block used to hold the dirt back more effectively
changing the first column to brick.
Mr. Sutter stated that at the rear view the rear brick water table was extended from the
exterior side of the end unit to the entire end unit and is the same at both ends of every
building. The details for the different cornices and trim details being used were explained
as well as the different window sections and differing entry details. The materials for the
railing at the rear of the townhomes, the garage door, and the windows for the townhomes
were shown to the Board. Mr. Sutter showed the changes to the differing roof structures
and revised railings for town over retail.
Mr. Robbins stated a significant amount of vegetation had been added to the park and a
crosswalk had been removed from the renderings per the BAR’s request.
Mr. Sutter stated the color schemes were on the material boards, and each unit was shown
with its corresponding color scheme. There were 6 color schemes, but 9 differences
because there were “B” color schemes that correspond to a base brick.
Mr. Layer asked that the applicants connect the actual material boards with their
corresponding elevations.
The Board stepped down from the dais to look at the material boards and color schemes
with their corresponding elevation renderings.
Mr. Cheselka asked if the bricks would be site painted of factory colored. Mr. Sutter
stated the brick would be painted on site.
Ms. Hanley asked what type of brick was used. Mr. Sutter stated there were two types of
brick that would be painted, and the type used was based on local availability. He also said
that one of the brick types should be Cordova.
Mr. Layer stated there were paints that were designed to be painted on brick and if that
was the way the specification would be written, then the Board would like paint appropriate
to be painted on brick. Mr. Sutter stated the paint used was exterior grade paint and Mr.
Cheselka explained that it was mason paint. Mr. Layer stated it would be sufficient to have
documentation stating it was done appropriately. There was continued discussion
regarding the paint application to the brick. The Board continued reviewing the material
samples.
There was an inquiry about the difference in color from the Hardie panel material sample,
and what was shown on the screen. Mr. Robbins stated the architect may have missed the
color as had been done with the shingles and that they could have him correct the color.
Mr. Layer stated; previously the Board felt it was too abrupt to go from brick one side to
siding. Their request was to pick up elements from the side towards Maple Ave. Mr.
Sutter asked what exactly the Board was looking for. Mr. Layer stated that anything to the
public view should have some relationship to what is on the front or side and there needed
to be integration. Mr. Sutter stated that there would not be a possibility to brick the lanais.
Mr. Layer stated the motion would be conditioned to include the public view changes.
Ms. Hanley stated her concern with the brick in the commercial area making that area
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look drab as it would be a lot of that brick color. Mr. Layer stated it would be the entire
façade at the ground level facing 123. Ms. Hanley stated it was also the color of the brick
at the 13-foot wall that was at the back side of the entrance to the garage and in the public
plaza.
Mr. Layer stated that the motion may contain the need for a few other examples of brick
that could go on the front of 123 to be submitted using the criteria that they would be
compatible and harmonious to the color schemes. Mr. Layer stated using redder hued as
the basis to give a more earth tone quality with surface texture and color variation that
would yield a deeper richer color brick. Ms. West asked if the brick could be severed
from the motion as a new material was being requested and would need to be brought back
to the Board to be reviewed and the applicants and the Board agreed to that change.
The applicant’s commercial study was brought up for review. Mr. Layer stated he
understood the engineer’s response to benches was that it would interfere with the
walkway. Mr. Layer then asked if had been suggested that the deuces (two seating space
tables) were interfering as well. Mr. Robbins stated the tables needed around 5-7 feet and
the passage is only 5 feet and 6 feet of clearance is what the town code requires. There
was additional discussion regarding the potential for deuces. Mr. Robbins stated the study
showed what could be put in and it would be up to the business in the commercial space to
choose. Mr. Layer asked if the storefront and alcoves part of the structure above or was it
all storefront. Mr. Robbins stated it was storefront. Mr. Layer asked if the platform
projected out over the alcove. Mr. Robbins stated it was pretty well in line and that there
was a metal awning that hung over. Mr. Layer encouraged pushing back the alcoves one
foot to give it 6 feet of clearance allowing the deuces to fit in the alcoves. Mr. Robbins
stated they were building for a 3rd party so they would have to get approval before
committing to a change in retail. The third party had asked for it to be built the way it had
been presented and the architectural and civil are mostly approved. The change would
require a lot of revision to add the foot. Mr. Robbins asked for it to be optional, as he could
not commit for the third party. Mr. Layer then asked about removing that from the motion
to investigate enlivening the space with landscaping. Mr. Robbins stated he agreed with
that and appreciated the consideration. There was continued discussion regarding the
potential for new landscaping.
Ms. Hanley felt the rendering for the commercial space was a little misleading due to the
height of the wall and the railing. There was discussion regarding steps that had been in
the middle of the retail leading the public sidewalk and that they had been removed to
satisfy the ADA compliance. Ms. Hanley inquired about planters on either side of the
entry where the steps had been removed.
Mr. Charles Anderson, 125 Pleasant St NW, came forward to speak. He thanked the
Board for all of the work on that specific project. Mr. Anderson mentioned the letter
submitted to the BAR and then gave a brief history of who designed their home. He
explained that their architect believed a building is not just for the owner but for everyone
and should address all four sides. Mr. Anderson then spoke about the points within his
letter, which is part of the record. Mr. Anderson asked a site related question regarding
his trees and Mr. Robbins answered the question.
Mr. Baldwin asked Mr. Anderson about his letter; and what he meant about the materials.
Mr. Anderson explained his opinions about the materials. There was additional discussion
regarding the materials being used, and the context of the code sections mentioned in Mr.
Andersons letter.
Ms. Hanley asked if the end unit lanai’s s on the edge of Church St could return the
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railing and keep it open. Mr. Sutter stated it would look good, but it would offer no degree
of privacy. Ms. Hanley asked about the angle bays that were not shown on the site plans on
the Pleasant St side. Ms. West stated it had not been taken care of yet, but would be when
they finalize the review with the BAR. Ms. Hanley asked which she was to use since there
are some inconsistencies. Ms. West stated that site plans are provided to the BAR as an
information document that will have to match what is approved, but at the time an
application goes before the BAR it may not match exactly. If there was a significant site
plan change the applicants would have to go before the BAR again for review of that
change. Ms. Hanley asked questions for clarification regarding the roof regarding the
color and if the material would wrap. Ms. Hanley asked about the pillar on the retaining
wall and railing. Mr. Robbins and Ms. Hanley discussed what would work better for the
termination of the wall rather than the pillar. Ms. Hanley continued with the park plaza
and the steps that would go down into the retail and asked if railing could be added and Mr.
Robbins stated it could. Ms. Hanley asked about the pad on the landscape plan shown at the
backside of the park. Mr. Robbins stated Dominion said they had to put a transformer at
that location. Ms. Hanley stated pictures were missing from the onsite lighting and that
lumen levels were not showing. Mr. Robbins stated that only public lighting was included,
streetlights and common area lights. They would not have control over whether the
individual homeowners would have a light or even use the light. Mr. Robbins asked if they
Ms. Hanley would like the builder to show on their plans the townhouse lighting. Ms.
Hanley indicated yes, and the garage door lights as well as the commercial garage lighting
as there was nothing called out. There was additional discussion regarding lighting.
Mr. Cheselka gave a statement regarding Mr. Anderson’s letter to the Board.
Mr. Layer stated the Board should separate the motion approving some items with
conditions and the other items would need to go back before the Board. The Board
discussed which items would remain in the motion and which would need to go back before
the Board.
Ms. Hanley made a motion that the request for approval of Vienna Market, a new mixed-use
project, at the former Marco Polo Restaurant site, located at 245 Maple Ave W, Docket No.
21-19-BAR, be approved with the provision for the following items to be confirmed by staff:
1. The paint spec colors of the Hardie panels on the backs of the towns over retails
2. The brick selection is provided to staff with a choice of like materials
3. The pillar at the end of the retaining wall along Bank of America close to Church St.
ends with a more substantial pillar
4. Confirm the center steps along the front of the retail are eliminated
5. Verify the color and the materials of the railing coming from the park plaza down into
the retail sidewalk area be consistent with the materials of the railing
The following items are to be excluded from the approval:
1. The lighting / photometric plan include all lights on the residential and commercial
section be combined into one photometric plan with the specs as needed
2. The landscape plan of sidewalk area in front of retail be developed and brought back
before the Board.
3. The brick on units 1, 13, 28, and 29 wrap around into the private street and a design is
presented to further enhance the architectural feel of the units
4. Resubmit options for the retail brick
Mr. Baldwin seconded the motion.
Motion: Hanley
Second: Baldwin
Approved: 4-0
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4. Approval of Work Session Minutes
September 17, 2017 Work Session Minutes
Ms. Hanley made a motion to approve the September 17, 2017 work session minutes for
380 Maple Ave W., Mr. Baldwin seconded the motion.
Motion: Hanley
Second: Baldwin
Approved: 2-0
Abstain: Layer, Hanley
December 18, 2018 Work Session Minutes:
Ms. Hanley made a motion to approve the December 18, 2018 work session minutes for
380 Maple Ave W., Mr. Baldwin seconded the motion.
Motion: Hanley
Second: Baldwin
Approved: 3-0
Abstain: Layer
May 25, 2018 Work Session Minutes:
Ms. Hanley made a motion to approve the May 25, 2018 work session minutes for the
Sunrise project, Mr. Cheselka seconded the motion.
Motion: Hanley
Second: Cheselka
Approved: 4-0
January 11, 2019 Work Session Minutes:
Ms. Hanley made a motion to approve the January 11, 2019 work session minutes for the
Sunrise project, Mr. Cheselka seconded the motion.
Motion: Hanley
Second: Cheselka
Approved: 4-0
5. New Business
6. Meeting Adjournment
Mr. Cheselka made a motion to adjourn the meeting. Ms. Hanley seconded the motion.
The meeting adjourned at 10:35 PM.
Respectfully submitted by,
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Sharmaine Abaied
Board Clerk
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Agenda
Town of Vienna 127 Center Street South
Vienna, Virginia 22180
p: 703.255.6341
TTY 7111
Meeting Agenda
Board of Architectural Review
Thursday, August 15, 2019 8:00 PM COUNCIL CHAMBERS-VIENNA TOWN HALL
1. Roll Call
2. Approval of Minutes
3. Regular Business
BAR19-117 515 Maple Avenue West - Soleil Nail Spa - Signage
Attachments: sr_PF-38-19-BAR_515 Maple Ave W_SOLEIL NAIL SPA_sign
02 - Application_PF-38-19-BAR_515 Maple Ave W_SOLEIL NAIL SPA_sign
03 - Sign Rendering 1_PF-38-19-BAR_515 Maple Ave W_SOLEIL NAIL SPA_sign
04 - Sign Rendering 2_PF-38-19-BAR_515 Maple Ave W_SOLEIL NAIL SPA_sign
BAR19-118 1009 Moorefield Hill Grove SW - Exterior Modifications - Solar Panels
Attachments: 01 - sr_PF-39-19-BAR_1009 Moorefield Hill_Solar Panel Installation
02 - Application_PF-39-19-BAR_1009 Moorefield Hill_Solar Panel Installation
03 - HOA Approval_PF-39-19-BAR_1009 Moorefield Hill_Solar Panel Installation
04 - Plans_PF-39-19-BAR_1009 Moorefield Hill_Solar Panel Installation
06 - Installation Guide_PF-39-19-BAR_1009 Moorefield Hill_Solar Panel Installation
05 - Photos_PF-39-19-BAR_1009 Moorefield Hill_Solar Panel Installation
BAR19-119 703 Hunter Court SW - Exterior Modifications - Solar Panels
Attachments: 01 - sr_PF-40-19-BAR_703 Hunter Ct SW_Solar Panel Installation
02 - Application_PF-40-19-BAR_703 Hunter Ct SW_Solar Panel Installation
03 - HOA Approval_PF-40-19-BAR_703 Hunter Ct SW_Solar Panel Installation
04 - Installation Details_PF-40-19-BAR_703 Hunter Ct SW_Solar Panel Installation
05 - Plans_PF-40-19-BAR_703 Hunter Ct SW_Solar Panel Installation
06 - Photos_PF-40-19-BAR_703 Hunter Ct SW_Solar Panel Installation
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BAR19-120 711 Hunter Ct SW - Exterior modifications - Fence
Attachments: 01 - sr_PF-41-19-BAR_711 Hunter Ct SW_Fence
02 - Application_PF-41-19-BAR_711 Hunter Ct SW_Fence
03 - HOA Approval Application_PF-41-19-BAR_711 Hunter Ct SW_Fence
04 - HOA Approval Email_PF-41-19-BAR_711 Hunter Ct SW_Fence
05 - Fence Image_PF-41-19-BAR_711 Hunter Ct SW_Fence
BAR19-121 245 Maple Avenue West - Vienna Market
Attachments: 01 - sr_08-15-2019_PF-21-19-BAR_Vienna Market
Application_PF-21-19-BAR_245 Maple Ave W_Vienna Market_New Construction
Architectural Comment Letter_PF-21-19-BAR_Vienna Market_New Con
Elevations and Details_PF-21-19-BAR_Vienna Market_New Construct
LANDSCAPE PLAN_PF-21-19-BAR_245 Maple Ave W_Vienna Market
Retail Study_PF-21-19-BAR_Vienna Market_New Construction
Site Plan - Flat_PF-21-19-BAR_Vienna Market_New Construction
Smith Eng Comment Letter_PF-21-19-BAR_Vienna Market_New Constru
190808 - VIENNA MARKET - CURRENT BAR
Vienna Market 3D Renderings
Lighting Details
Lighting Plan - Offsite Street Lighting
Lighting Plan - Onsite Lighting
4. Approval of Work Session Minutes
5. New Business
6. Meeting Adjournment
THE TOWN OF VIENNA IS COMMITTED TO FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT
STANDARDS. TRANSLATION SERVICES, ASSISTANCE OR ACCOMMODATION REQUESTS FROM PERSONS WITH
DISABILITIES ARE TO BE REQUESTED NOT LESS THAN 3 WORKING DAYS BEFORE THE DAY OF THE EVENT.
PLEASE CALL (703) 255-6304, OR 711 VIRGINIA RELAY SERVICE FOR THE HEARING IMPAIRED.
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