Board of Architectural Review
Regular MeetingVienna, VA · September 19, 2019
Minutes
Town of Vienna 127 Center Street South
Vienna, Virginia 22180
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Meeting Minutes
Board of Architectural Review
Thursday, September 19, 2019 8:00 PM COUNCIL CHAMBERS-VIENNA TOWN
HALL
1. Roll Call
The Board of Architectural Review met in regular session in the Vienna Town Hall, 127
Center Street, South Vienna, Virginia, with Paul Layer presiding as Chair. The following
members were present: Michael Cheselka and Patty Hanley; Roy Baldwin was absent.
Andrea West, Planner, and Sharmaine Abaied, Board Clerk, were present.
Mr. Layer opened the meeting for the Board of Architectural Review and asked for the roll
to be called.
ROLL CALL:
Ms. Abaied called roll with Paul Layer, Michael Cheselka, and Patty Hanley being present
and Roy Baldwin was absent.
2. Approval of Minutes
MEETING MINUTES:
Ms. Hanley stated her vote of the September 2017 work session minutes were to be
corrected to abstain.
Mr. Cheselka made a motion to approve the August 2019 meeting minutes with the
correction.
Ms. Hanley seconded the motion.
Motion: Cheselka
Second: Hanley
Approved: 3-0
Absent: Baldwin
3. Regular Business
245 Maple Ave W - Vienna Market
Request for approval of Vienna Market, a new mixed-use project, at the former Marco Polo
Restaurant site, located at 245 Maple Avenue W., Docket No. 21-19-BAR, in the MAC
Maple Avenue Commercial Zone zoning district; filed by Nate Robbins of Northfield
Development.
Mr. Nate Robbin was present to represent the application.
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Ms. West gave an opening statement referencing the list of the items that the Board had
requested of the applicant.
Mr. Layer asked Mr. Robbins to begin with the lighting plan, and Mr. Robbins began with
the lighting plan of the entire site. Mr. Layer asked if the values had changed, Mr.
Robbins stated everything was the same with additions. Mr. Robbins stated lighting was
added at the garage entry way and explained the lumens to foot candles. Mr. Robbins
showed where lights were added when entering the driveway area. Lights were also added
to every stairway due to concern for the lighting at the stairway.
Ms. Hanley asked if the fixtures for the added lighting were listed somewhere, Mr. Robbin
stated yes and showed the Board where the fixtures were listed, they type of fixtures, and
where they would be located on the site. Ms. Hanley asked about the color, Mr. Robbins
stated they had not picked a color as of yet awaiting the Boards feedback. The Board stated
black would be the best color, and Mr. Robbins stated they would use black. Mr. Layer
reviewed standards for illumination based on the Illuminating Engineer Society and then
explained that he wanted to make sure the areas were not under lit or over lit. Ms. West
brought the Boards attention to the photometric planned that had been provided to staff the
day of the meeting. More lamps were in the area of concern and photometric data was
brought toward the building. Mr. Layer asked to review the pole lights at the entry of the
parking garage. Mr. Layer asked for the Kelvin and Lumen levels. Ms. West stated the
Kelvins were 3000, the lumen levels did not show. Mr. Layer reviewed the foot candles
with the Board in place of the lumens. Mr. Layer discussed the locations that were
individually lamped and expressed that part of the motion should contain reviewing
lighting at a later date to ensure lighting areas are not under lit. Ms. West stated that
during certificate of occupancy review the lighting could be reviewed and possible changed
if more lighting was needed. Mr. Layer agreed that part of the motion could indicate that
lighting would be looked at during the occupancy review time to add lighting if needed.
There was additional discussion about what could be done at time of occupancy regarding
lighting. Mr. Cheselka asked about the curb lighting on Maple and Pleasant and the
placement and sizes of some the street lamps. Ms. West stated the street light placement
is decided by Dominion. She also stated the “cobra” light noted on the corner must be an
error based on the Fairfax County which does not apply for the Town of Vienna. Mr. Layer
asked if there would only be “acorn” lighting and Ms. West stated that was her
understanding. There was continued discussion regarding lighting in the right of way.
Mr. Robbins pointed out that lighting was added in the stairwells, 4 to 5 locations in total.
Ms. West pulled up the stairwells parallel to Maple Ave which had wall packs added.
There was discussion about the color and it was decided black would be best. Ms. Hanley
asked about if the lights outside the retail fronts were exterior fixtures. Mr. Robbins
stated yes they were as they would not be designing the interior lights. Ms. Hanley asked
if they had a fixture selected. Ms. West stated it was fixture “H” on the left and “H1“on
the right. The Board spot checked the lighting levels at different places in the stairwells.
The Board moved on to the landscaping. Landscaping, in planter boxes, was added to the
commercial area. Mr. Robbins discussed the different types of plants that will be in the
planters. Mr. Layer asked who would be responsible for caring for the plants. Mr.
Robbins stated it would either be the tenant or the owner of the podium. Ms. Hanley stated
the planters near the steps going down in the retail sidewalk would be better served by the
step area as it can be a tripping hazard. Defining the steps would create better
functionality. Moving the planters would also allow for the plants to get water and sun as
they would not be under the overhang. Ms. Hanley stated the purple fountain grass would
end up being an annual. Ms. Hanley suggested a Japanese Holly, Dwarf Juniper, or Dwarf
Cypress’ as it was evergreen to have one plant in every planter to be green all year. Mr.
Layer asked that the suggestions be made part of the motion. There was some discussion
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about the stairs where the planters would be relocated. Mr. Layer asked if Ms. Hanley was
requesting to relocate the planters to the stairs or add planters. Ms. Hanley stated she
wanted to move them and Mr. Layer stated he preferred to add two. Ms. Hanley stated her
preference would be to wrap the knee wall around and add a railing going down. Mr.
Robbins stated he would talk with the landscapers.
The Board moved on to the elevations and Mr. Robbins mentioned it was for the NVR
buildings with the added brick on the backside of the buildings. Mr. Layer asked if the
brick was added up to the balcony, Mr. Robbins stated it was at the level of the strong line
carried around the corner of the building. The Board looked at the 3D renderings from
the August meeting in reference to the updated elevations. Mr. Robbins mentioned that
the brick color was close to the siding color so it is difficult to see the difference and Ms.
Hanley commented that the break is at the water table. Ms. Hanley asked to look at the
rending showing the lanai. Mr. Robbins stated that NVR did make an opening in the lanai
as requested by the Board. Ms. Hanley pointed out the railing had also been returned
(taken around the side) as discussed in the August meeting too.
The last item was the brick selection for the commercial. Mr. Layer mentioned the wire
cut brick and felt it was inappropriate for the building as it was traditional and wire cut
bricks are not traditional. He did state that he understood applying the mural paint to a
variegated surface would be difficult. Mr. Layer stated that the designated areas for the
mural could have the wire cut #1 brick in those areas to be the canvas for the paint
allowing it to adhere. Ms. Hanley asked if the brick going on the retail was brick or brick
facing. Mr. Robbins stated it would be veneer / facing. He followed up stating it would be a
full concrete structure with brick facing. Ms. Hanley asked if the retaining wall against
the backside where the townhomes would be the same, Mr. Robbins stated yes. Mr.
Cheselka asked about the mural size. The Board members agreed that the entire wall
driving in could be a different material than the building as it was different than the
building, and would give it depth. Mr. Layer inquired about the brick size on the
commercial retail. Mr. Robbins stated it would be a full concrete structure, with hangers,
that the one course full brick will sit on showing as a veneer. It will look like a brick
structure, but will be supported by concrete. Mr. Layer asked if it was full brick and Mr.
Robbins stated he believed it was full brick. Mr. Robbins commented that the thought
behind the wire cut brick was that the “Townes” were a more traditional type and the wire
cut would create contrast. Mr. Layer stated it would be more congruent to stay away from
the wire cut brick, as it would be viewed in conjunction with the other surfaces. Mr.
Robbins let the Board know he had material samples with him for the Board to review. Ms.
Hanley asked about the sizes of the brick, and Mr. Robbins stated they would be the size of
the material samples brought to the meeting that night. Mr. Cheselka spoke on the
aspects of painting the brick for the mural as the steps required for painting brick is
important. He also asked about if the brick would be washed with muriatic acid in
preparation of painting the brick. Mr. Robbins stated he had not heard that. Mr. Cheselka
stated it was still used in the industry. Mr. Robbins stated if it is an industry standard it
would be done by their masons. The Board had additional discussion in preparation of the
motion referencing the following:
-the light fixtures needing to be black
-the lighting levels be reviewed at time of occupancy
-mitigation of light at the corner of the brick entryway to the driveway
-the corner looked at with a resolution to the cobra / acorn light discrepancy
-at the commercial level a cheek wall running adjacent to the steps returning and
returning to the wall behind it for the purpose of the planter at a minimum size of 2 feet.
-the brick choice of color number three for the commercial.
-wire cut brick on the mural wall at the driveway entry (with the train in the rendering) all
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the way to the corner with the pillars having brick #3.
-wire cut brick in the second mural area (railroad crossing signal in the rendering) and
can have two different types of brick, stopping at the 3rd rustication mark.
There was additional discussion regarding the mural and the need to go back before the
Board when ready to submit for the mural.
Ms. Hanley made a motion that the request for approval of Vienna Market, a new mixed-use
project, at the former Marco Polo Restaurant site, located at 245 Maple Avenue W.,
Docket No. 21-19-BAR, as follows:
1. Clarification the light fixtures selected would be the black finish
2. Staff evaluate the Eastern most sidewalk to ensure adequate lighting making
appropriate adjustments if offsite lighting is not adequate
3. Staff, prior to occupancy, evaluate lighting at night to ensure lighting is adequate for
intended use.
4. Staff note any corrections to the approved plan in regards to the cobra light shown in the
right of way near the Pleasant St intersection.
5. Two planters at the commercial stairs in the midpoint of the building enter the retail
sidewalk and return, and return back to the wall creating a 2x2x2 planter, inside
dimension, with a railing attached in similar material as the railings around the building.
6. The brick choice for the commercial space be #3 except wire cut brick #2 at the rear
wall of the driveway inside the pillars flanking that wall
7. Wire cut brick #2 above the rustication at the railroad sign which is mural location #2
with the rustication on the side of the stairwell / elevator shaft be three sections high.
8. The Dwarf Junipers will be considered and the Japanese Holly to replace the Purple
Fountain Grass. Reporting to staff the replacement landscaping.
Motion: Hanley
Second: Cheselka
Approved: 3-0
Absent: Baldwin
112 Pleasant St SW - Bellini Salon & Gerrish MedEsthetics - Sign
Request for approval of replacement panel within existing freestanding sign located at 112
Pleasant St SW, Docket No. PF-43-19-BAR, in the C-1A Special Commercial district;
filed by Michael Kirnan of FastSigns Tysons, sign owner.
Mr. Michael Kiran was present to represent the application.
Ms. Hanley asked if the sign was sharing the panel or replacing the panel. Mr. Kiran
stated the whole panel would be replaced. Mr. Layer asked if it would be the same panel.
Mr. Kiran said it would be the same panel, and double-sided pylon.
Mr. Cheselka made a motion that the request for approval of replacement panel within
existing freestanding sign located at 112 Pleasant St SW, be approved as submitted.
Motion: Cheselka
Second: Hanley
Approved: 3-0
Absent: Baldwin
395 Maple Ave E - Exxon - Sign
Request for approval of new signage for the existing Exxon service station located at 395
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Maple Ave E, Docket No. PF-45-19-BAR, in the C-2 General Commercial district; filed by
Himal Chand, The Plan Source.
Mr. Bhoopendra Prakash was present to represent the application.
Mr. Prakash explained that they were applying to work on the four dispenser islands only.
He pointed out to the Board the existing conditions and the proposed conditions of the
“waves and blades” on the slide and then handed out a graphic showing the history of the
island dispensers in picture. Mr. Prakash also had photos of the evening and daytime
conditions of the proposed dispenser island changes.
Mr. Cheselka asked if the old weathered columns would be painted as the new red design
would be counter-productive against the faded columns. Mr. Prakash stated that part of
the image (Synergy) upgrade was to take away the tiger image and changing it to Synergy.
Mr. Prakash gave any explanation of the purpose of the islands and then stated part of the
upgrade would include the painting of the columns.
Mr. Layer asked which would be painted and Mr. Prakash stated the canopy columns. Mr.
Layer asked if the underside of the canopy would be painted. Mr. Prakash stated it was a
pre-finished material which would need to be ordered. Mr. Prakash stated that he could
recommend it be power washed and spray painted if required by the Board. Mr. Layer
asked what was on the columns and Mr. Prakash stated paint. Mr. Layer stated that since
the soffit was prefabricated, at best, it should be cleaned.
Mr. Cheselka stated he was surprised it wasn’t part of the presentation and Mr. Prakash
stated his presentation was inadequate, but he did not think painting and cleaning should
have been part of the presentation. Mr. Cheselka stated he could not support the
application unless the painting and cleaning was part of it. Mr. Prakash asked the Board
to make it a requirement and would ensure that it would happen.
Ms. Hanley asked if the planters where the wave signs were proposed would remain. Mr.
Prakash stated there would not be room for the planters. Ms. Hanley asked if the wave
signs would act as a bollard and Mr. Prakash stated they were not concrete filled, but
would be bolted and sitting on the island. Ms. Hanley asked about the protection the
planter offered. Mr. Prakash stated the planters were only a visual warning and did not
provide collision protection. Mr. Layer asked if the planters could not fit with the wave
signs, Ms. Hanley stated that was correct. There was additional conversation regarding
protection from the pumps. Mr. Layer asked what would happen if the “7” (wave sign)
were hit by a car; Mr. Prakash stated that it is bolted and replaceable if hit. Ms. Hanley
asked for the dimension off the curb where the “hockey sticks” (waves) sit. Mr. Prakash
stated there was a dimension from the dispenser and it could be as close as one foot from
the edge of the dispenser. There was additional discussion regarding the location of the
wave.
Mr. Cheselka inquired about the soffit and stated that it could be painted making it look
new rather than trying to power wash the soffit. Mr. Prakash stated that if the Board made
it a condition they would spray it.
Mr. Cheselka made a motion that the request for approval of new signage for the existing
Exxon service station located at 395 Maple Ave E, be approved with the proviso that from
the underneath of the ceiling down, including the columns, the white is cleaned and painted
and the signs be a minimum of one foot from the pump.
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Motion: Cheselka
Second: Hanley
Approved: 3-0
Absent: Baldwin
Mr. Layer asked Mr. Prakash to follow up with staff as to the systems that will be used to
paint the soffit and columns.
419-B Maple Ave E - ABC Store - Sign
Request for approval of a new façade sign and new tenant panel sign for Virginia ABC
located at 419-B Maple Ave E, Docket No. PF-46-19-BAR, in the C-1 Local Commercial
zoning district; filed by Jessica Sutherland of Talley Sign Company, sign agent.
Ms. Sutherland was present to represent the application.
Ms. Hanley asked if the other signs, appearing blueish, and the ABC sign, appearing
bright white were a true representation of the existing. Ms. Sutherland stated it was the
wear of the older panels and the new panel would be newer and white and the picture was
blue tinted.
Ms. Hanley made a motion that the request for approval of a new façade sign and new tenant
panel sign for Virginia ABC located at 419-B Maple Ave E, be approved as submitted.
Motion: Hanley
Second: Cheselka
Approved: 3-0
Absent: Baldwin
513 Maple Ave W - Sherri Studios - Sign
Request for approval of one refaced façade sign, and one tenant panel replacement in an
existing freestanding sign for Sherri Studios located at 513 Maple Ave W, Docket No.
PF-47-19-BAR, in the C-1 Local Commercial zoning district; filed by Jack Shin of
Beltway Sign Team Inc., sign agent.
Mr. Wasif Sharoon was present to represent the application.
Mr. Sharoon stated the sign face was the only thing that would be changing. Mr. Layer
asked if it would be the same colors as the other signs, Mr. Sharoon stated yes.
Mr. Cheselka stated he wanted to go on record that he is not in favor of box signs. There
was additional discussion regarding box signs.
Ms. Hanley made a motion that the request for approval of one refaced façade sign, and one
tenant panel replacement in an existing freestanding sign for Sherri Studios located at
513 Maple Ave W, be approved as submitted.
Motion: Hanley
Second: Cheselka
Approved: 3-0
Absent: Baldwin
544 Maple Ave W - McDonalds - Sign
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Request for approval of new freestanding signs, three illuminated menu boards, for
McDonald’s located at 544 Maple Ave W, Docket No. PF-44-19-BAR, in the C-1 Local
Commercial zoning district; filed by Makayla Ngoun of Expedite the Diehl, sign agent.
Mr. David Stoeltzing was present to represent the application. Mr. Stoeltzing gave a brief
description of what was proposed for the news signs with the level of lighting.
Mr. Cheselka asked about any items that would be patched or repaired during the
installation of the signs and if it meant to the landscaping. It was discovered that anything
disturbed would have to be returned to what it was before the sign installation.
There was discussion regarding the site plan. The site plan that was given by the applicant
was for the Fredericksburg McDonalds. Ms. West found attachment 2A had the site
specific sign panels.
Mr. Cheselka made motion that the request for approval of new freestanding signs, three
illuminated menu boards, for McDonald’s located at 544 Maple Ave W, be approved as
submitted.
Motion: Cheselka
Second: Hanley
Approved: 3-0
Absent: Baldwin
5. Meeting Adjournment
Ms. Hanley made a motion to adjourn the meeting, Mr. Cheselka seconded the motion. The
meeting was adjourned at 10:03pm.
Respectfully submitted by,
Sharmaine Abaied
Board Clerk
THE TOWN OF VIENNA IS COMMITTED TO FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT
STANDARDS. TRANSLATION SERVICES, ASSISTANCE OR ACCOMMODATION REQUESTS FROM PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES
ARE TO BE REQUESTED NOT LESS THAN 3 WORKING DAYS BEFORE THE DAY OF THE EVENT. PLEASE CALL (703) 255-6304,
OR 711 VIRGINIA RELAY SERVICE FOR THE HEARING IMPAIRED.
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Agenda
Town of Vienna 127 Center Street South
Vienna, Virginia 22180
p: 703.255.6341
TTY 7111
Meeting Agenda
Board of Architectural Review
Thursday, September 19, 2019 8:00 PM COUNCIL CHAMBERS-VIENNA TOWN HALL
1. Roll Call
2. Approval of Minutes
3. Regular Business
BAR19-122 245 Maple Ave W - Vienna Market
Attachments: sr_Revised_PF-21-19-BAR_Vienna Market_September 2019
02 - PHOTOMETRIC_PF-21-19-BAR_Vienna Market_September 2019
03 - Landscape Plans_PF-21-19-BAR_Vienna Market_Sept 2019
04 - Elevations w Edits_PF-21-19-BAR_Vienna Market_Sept 2019
05 - Retail Brick Options_PF-21-19-BAR_Vienna Market_Sept 2019
BAR19-123 112 Pleasant St SW - Bellini Salon & Gerrish MedEsthetics - Sign
Attachments: 01 - PF-43-19-BAR_Bellini Salon & Gerrish_112 Pleasant St SW_sign
02 - Application_PF-43-19-BAR_Bellini Salon & Gerrish_112 Pleasant St SW_sign
03 - Sign Rendering_PF-43-19-BAR_Bellini Salon & Gerrish_112 Pleasant St SW_sign
BAR19-124 395 Maple Ave E - Exxon - Sign
Attachments: 01 - sr_PF-45-19-BAR_Exxon_395 Maple Ave E_sign
02 - Sign Review Applications_PF-45-19-BAR_Exxon_395 Maple Ave E_sign
03 - Letter Of Authorization_PF-45-19-BAR_Exxon_395 Maple Ave E_sign
04 - Sign Plan_PF-45-19-BAR_Exxon_395 Maple Ave E_sign
BAR19-125 419-B Maple Ave E - ABC Store - Sign
Attachments: 01 - sr_PF-46-19-BAR_Virginia ABC_419-B Maple Ave E
02 - Application_PF-46-19-BAR_Virginia ABC_419-B Maple Ave E
03 - Sign Renderings_PF-46-19-BAR_Virginia ABC_419-B Maple Ave E
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BAR19-126 513 Maple Ave W - Sherri Studios - Sign
Attachments: 01 - sr_PF-47-19-BAR_Sherri Studios_513 Maple Ave W
02 - Application_PF-47-19-BAR_Sherri Studios_513 Maple Ave W
03 - Proposed Signs_PF-47-19-BAR_Sherri Studios_513 Maple Ave W
04 - Sign Materials_PF-47-19-BAR_Sherri Studios_513 Maple Ave W
BAR19-127 544 Maple Ave W - McDonalds - Sign
Attachments: 01 - sr_PF-44-19-BAR_544 Maple Ave W_McDonaldsMenu
02 - Application_PF-44-19-BAR_544 Maple Ave W_McDonaldsMenu
02a - Site plan_PF-44-19-BAR_544 Maple Ave W_McDonaldsMenu
03 - Existing Menu Board Photos_PF-44-19-BAR_544 Maple Ave W_McDonaldsMenu
04 - Brightness Specfication_PF-44-19-BAR_544 Maple Ave W_McDonaldsMenu
06 - Fredericksburg_VA PHOTOMETRIC PLAN_PF-44-19-BAR_544 Maple Ave W_McDonaldsMenu
07 - Daytime Views_PF-44-19-BAR_544 Maple Ave W_McDonaldsMenu
08 - Views at Dusk_PF-44-19-BAR_544 Maple Ave W_McDonaldsMenu
09 - Double Screen Photo_PF-44-19-BAR_544 Maple Ave W_McDonaldsMenu
10 - Electrical Schematics_PF-44-19-BAR_544 Maple Ave W_McDonaldsMenu
11 - COATES Details_PF-44-19-BAR_544 Maple Ave W_McDonaldsMenu
12 - Coates-Fabrication Details_PF-44-19-BAR_544 Maple Ave W_McDonaldsMenu
video - menu board during daytime_PF-44-19-BAR_544 Maple Ave W_McDonaldsMenu
video - menu board no animation_PF-44-19-BAR_544 Maple Ave W_McDonaldsMenu
5. Meeting Adjournment
THE TOWN OF VIENNA IS COMMITTED TO FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT
STANDARDS. TRANSLATION SERVICES, ASSISTANCE OR ACCOMMODATION REQUESTS FROM PERSONS WITH
DISABILITIES ARE TO BE REQUESTED NOT LESS THAN 3 WORKING DAYS BEFORE THE DAY OF THE EVENT.
PLEASE CALL (703) 255-6304, OR 711 VIRGINIA RELAY SERVICE FOR THE HEARING IMPAIRED.
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