Police and Fire Commission
Regular MeetingWauwatosa, WI · November 15, 2023
Minutes
7725 W. North Avenue
Wauwatosa, WI Wauwatosa, WI 53213
Police and Fire Commission
Meeting Minutes - Final
Wednesday, November 15, 2023 4:30 PM Committee Room #1 and Zoom:
https://servetosa.zoom.us/j/85484698352,
Meeting ID: 854 8469 8352
Regular Meeting
CALL TO ORDER
Commissioner Long called the meeting to order at 4:30 PM.
ROLL CALL
Present 4 Commissioner, Chair Danielle Long
Commissioner Greg Leahy
Commissioner Phillip Morris
Commissioner Victor Plantinga
Excused 1 Commissioner Stan Stojkovic
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion by Morris to approve the October 3, 2023, minutes, seconded by Plantinga. Motion approved.
Motion by Morris to approve the October 18, 2023, minutes, seconded by Plantinga. Motion approved.
CORRESPONDENCE
None
REPORT OF THE POLICE CHIEF
Chief James MacGillis, presented.
1. Operational Updates 23-935
A. Mental Health calls for service
· Presented at COW on November 7, 2023 with Health and Fire
· Educational presentation on limitations of Police, Fire, and
Health in dealing with homelessness, drug/alcohol dependency,
mental illness
· Large increase in calls for service; takes lots of time and
resources, have city social worker to help but still not enough
· County cannot find a Social Worker to get our CART team
started, applied for grant to move towards similar program; at
municipal level called “Co-Response” or “Community
Response” 2-year grant if awarded to start in June 2024
· Resources and systems at State/County level for these social
issues are struggling: lack of Social Workers, Clinicians, low
mental health clinic capacity; MEHC/Granite Hills running at
around 30% capacity of beds that it should be for the entire
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county
B. Pursuit decision making
· State law, Policy, Procedure and training guide, Officer and
Supervisor decision making before and during pursuits
· Decision to pursue or not is based on many factors:
seriousness, (or lack thereof) of offense, time of day, traffic or
weather
· Every pursuit is reviewed by Supervisor, Shift Lt., Patrol Capt.,
for compliance due to the high-risk nature of pursuits
· Correction, training or discipline occurs as needed
o Have a discipline record for Officers and Sgts to gain
compliance with P&P, and performance on the street
· Most recent pursuit/fatal crash, an initial internal review shows
that the pursuing officer followed P&P perfectly - No fault of
Officer or Dept.
o Full pursuit debrief and review still in progress
RESULT: INFORMATIONAL ONLY
2. Support Services 23-936
A. Use of Force data
· From October 2020 - October 2023
o 106,325 calls for service
o 169 calls involved force
o 0.15% of all calls involve force and/or threat of
B. Froedtert Hospital Emergency room-update
· Working through challenges with mental health calls.
Mostly positive feedback
RESULT: INFORMATIONAL ONLY
3. Administrative Updates 23-939
A. Budget process-Axon de-escalation Capital project
· Infrastructure item was introduced and presented to City
Executive Staff including Mayor, FAC, and others
· Capt. Gabrish and Finance Director John Ruggini will continue
to have strategic meetings to figure out finances/funds to pay
for some type of upgrade in 2024/2025
· Current contract is in effect until January 1, 2026. Need
upgrades: Taser, Squad video, body cams, (which were just
upgraded as part of current contract), and the future of virtual
reality training - great for de-escalation and less lethal as well
as less injuries sustained during training
· Axion has been told we will continue to work with them, but
finances are not available at this time
· Police Admin will continue to work on project as well as look
for grant help
B. Change of front office service hours
· Staffing and hiring have been difficult
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· Looking to run office hours from 7am to 8pm and eliminate
8pm to 11pm
· New parking site eliminates about 80% of what that employee
did for 3 hours
· Pilot program for 6 months to see how it goes, can always
switch back
RESULT: INFORMATIONAL ONLY
REPORT OF THE FIRE CHIEF
Chief James Case, presented.
1. Operational Updates 23-910
A. Monthly call volume
· 788 Total incident - October 2023
· 8,145 total YTD incidents compared to 7,332 incidents
same time in 2022 (10% increase)
B. Significant incidents
· Milwaukee Cambridge (Cambridge/Oakland) fire on
Sunday, high-rise fire, sent B5 and T51 to assist, 10
injuries, reviewed high-rise response procedure
· Recent cardiac arrest at local car dealer, triggered new
program similar to smoke detector sweeps after a fire
C. Shared services
· No report
RESULT: INFORMATIONAL ONLY
2. Administrative Updates 23-911
A. 2024 adopted budget
· No changes made through Finance
· Will be voted on by full Council on November 21, 2023
· If approved, 2 additional firefighter positions as well as capital
improvements and 2 fire trucks in 2027 & 2028
B. Fall 2023 hiring process
· 79 total applicants
· 59 met minimum requirements (given one week to produce
missing documents)
· 2 paramedics (one only interested in West Allis)
· Will be interviewed by joint FD panel first week of December
· Request PFC interview first two weeks of January for one night
· Likely hiring 6 maybe 7
C. Social Worker collaboration
· Quarterly update meetings with Police/Fire/Health
· Facility dog being implemented
· Division Chief Sandoval assisted with Council discussion of
homelessness
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· Grant application for crisis response program, may include FD
medics
D. Contract negotiations
· Current fire contract expires December 31, 2023
· Local 1923 and the city have exchanged initial offers
· If new contract is not agreed upon by end of year, will operate
using existing rules until a new agreement is reached
RESULT: INFORMATIONAL ONLY
ANNOUNCEMENTS
The Police and Fire Commission Annual Report will be presented to the Wauwatosa Government
Affairs Committee on November 28, 2023.
This was informational only.
RESULT: INFORMATIONAL ONLY
ADJOURNMENT
Meeting adjourned at 5:03 PM.
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Agenda
7725 W. North Avenue
Wauwatosa, WI Wauwatosa, WI 53213
Police and Fire Commission
Meeting Agenda - Final
Wednesday, November 15, 2023 4:30 PM Committee Room #1 and Zoom:
https://servetosa.zoom.us/j/85484698352,
Meeting ID: 854 8469 8352
Regular Meeting
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CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
CORRESPONDENCE
REPORT OF THE POLICE CHIEF
1. Operational Updates 23-935
A. Mental Health calls for service
B. Pursuit decision making
2. Support Services 23-936
A. Use of Force data
B. Froedtert Hospital Emergency room-update
3. Administrative Updates 23-939
A. Budget process-Axon de-escalation Capital project
B. Change of front office service hours
REPORT OF THE FIRE CHIEF
1. Operational Updates 23-910
A. Monthly call volume
B. Significant incidents
C. Shared services
2. Administrative Updates 23-911
A. 2024 adopted budget
B. Fall 2023 hiring process
C. Social Worker collaboration
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D. Contract negotiations
ANNOUNCEMENTS
The Police and Fire Commission Annual Report will be presented to the Wauwatosa Government
Affairs Committee on November 28, 2023.
ADJOURNMENT
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