City Council - Regular Meetings
Regular MeetingWebster Groves, MO · February 2, 2021
Minutes
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Exhibit 1
Katie Nakazono - Dave Buck's "Remarks of Visitors" for City Council's Regular Zoom
Meeting, 2/2/21
From: Dave Buck <dave@buckstl.com>
To: "citycouncil@webstergroves.org" <citycouncil@webstergroves.org>, "people...
Date: 2/1/2021 1,:15 :PM
Subject: Dave Buck's "Remarks ofVisitors" for City Council's Regular Zoom Meeting, 2/2/21
Cc: John Simpson <Simpson.John@wgmail.org>, Jason Adams <adams.jason@wgmail....
To Our Mayor, City Council & City Staff,
While we nationally celebrate Black History Month this February,the present and future
opportunity to achieve real,meaningful diversity, inclusion, equity & justice in Webster Groves
remains a major city goal.
Like most communities,Webster faces multiple challenges in this area. But I think the 20-year
existence in the Webster Groves School District of the "Academic Achievement Gap" between
the performance of white and black students is,by far,our city's single greatest racial inequity
and social injustice.
Even a very conservative estimate suggests that at least 1,840 or more black students have been
impacted over the past 20 years.
Education scholars say that this gap tends to continue later in life in the form of an employment
gap,,income gap and housing gap,etc. Importantly, they believe the "Academic Achievement
Gap" begins at the start of kindergarten.
Why? Because kids from lower income families cannot afford the tuition that every preschool
or early childhood program in Webster Groves charges, from the higher fees of Walter Ambrose,
Goddard and Montessori to even the less expensive fees of church preschools and Statemen's
Preschool.
The result is that these kids start kindergarten two years behind their more affluent white peers
in academic,emotional, social and physical development. And, thus, the gap begins and does
not measurably close during K-12.
Three possible solutions to this problem are:
1. The Webster Groves School District creates,includes and test markets a universal preschool
as part of Givens Elementary School in North Webster.
2. Several church preschools (such as Emmanuel Episcopal, Webster Hills Methodist and
Webster Presbyterian) join together to collaborate and find a creative way to welcome and
include these kids into their programs.
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3. Webster-Rock Hill Ministries expands its afterschool tutoring program to include free
preschool for the kids of the needy in our community.
In short, this is a huge, persistent problem that has literally impacted thousands of black kids over
the last 20 years. It is time we worked together as one community to solve the problem once and
for all and bring equity and justice to these kids' lives and their families.
PEACE.
Dave
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Exhibit 2
Katie Nakazono - Remarks of Visitors
rom: Daniel Bruzzini <dbruzzini@gmail.com>
To: <citycouncil@webstergroves.org>
Date: 2/2/2021 8:29 AM
Subject: Remarks of Visitors
Cc: Daniel Bruzzini <dbruzzini@gmail.com>
Webster Groves' 9.24% sales tax is the 4th highest in the nation. Instead of helping local
merchants, Webster Grove's ski-high sales tax creates a strong incentive for residents to
shop online from the 27 states without a use/internet sales tax.
April's proposal for an even higher sales tax "to level the playing field" by adding a
use/internet sales tax will certainly level our local businesses into insolvency from the loss
of out of state sales and for having to pay $924.00 additional dollars for every $10,000
dollars of purchases.
Any tax on business is a tax on us, the consumer, who will pay more for the same goods
and services. Higher prices means fewer sales, or no sales, as cost-conscious consumers
and businesses always find a way to save money from cheaper no-tax states.
April's proposed use/internet sales tax-hike - during these tough COVID-19 economic
times - is actually a Toxic tariff akin to the Smoot-Hawley tariff during the Great
Depression. Instead of protecting and promoting local businesses, this tariff resulted in
higher prices and fewer sales that bankrupted businesses -- deepening and extending the
Great Depression. The proposed use/internet sales tax-hike is a business-killing tariff
increasing the cost on businesses and consumers alike.
With a municipal budget of 31.4 million dollars, does the City of Webster Groves truly
need the 250k expected from this thirteenth special tax more than our local businesses?
Do our local businesses and residents understand that "local" in the Internet age means
everywhere? Why tax away our neighborhood businesses' competitive advantage in this
new "local" marketplace?
Just look at your own shopping habits, and compare how much you buy online versus how
much you buy in a store. Imagine paying 9.24% on everything you bought online; and for
every thousand dollars you buy, you would be taxed $92.4 dollars .... Ouch! What else
could you buy and whose business could you support with more money in YOUR pocket?
No municipality spends your money as wisely as you spend your own. No municipality has
ever "taxed" its residents into prosperity. The City of Webster Groves with its property tax,
library tax, education tax, and twelve special sales taxes would be wise not to add an
unlucky 13th. Remember: Webster Groves is a great place to live, WORK, and raise a
family... NOT for a municipality to tax and tariff.
Dan
Daniel B. Bruzzini
Webster Groves MO 63119
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I would like to address a few points against allowing golf carts on the streets of Webster
Groves. My points address the golf cart environmental impact or lack thereof, social
activities with neighbors, safety and parking.
I am not seeing the environmental benefits of using golf carts. The construction of golf
carts use resources and materials. Also used are fossil fuels to construct and deliver
the carts. Sure they would use less fuel, but golf carts don't have any emission
controls like catalytic converters or EVAP canisters like cars do. If we are worried about
the environment, we should consume less, recycle everything, stop using fertilizers on
our lawns, buy smaller houses, walk, ride our bikes or drive hybrid vehicles among other
things. Carts are minimally and typically used when the weather is nice, unless you are
using them for a long commute every day, there doesn't look to be a benefit for the
environment
I don't see how owning a golf cart would enhance social activities. As an alternative to
the golf cart, you could walk to a neighbor's house with a wagon loaded with a couple of
chairs and maybe a cooler and whiffle ball kit instead of driving a golf cart. Never have I
sat at home thinking that if only I had a golf cart I could go and be social with my friends
or neighbors, I just walk or drive. If a family wanted to go to a store or restaurant they
could simply walk, ride bikes or drive, the lack of a golf cart isn't an obstacle and hasn't
stopped me from doing any of these things. Another thing a family could do in the
business districts is park at one end of the street and use the sidewalk to stroll past and
go in and out of the restaurants, ice cream stores and shops, then walk back to the car.
Webster has a few good area's where there are plenty of shops and plenty of room to
walk down the sidewalks with a drink, cross then walk back.
Safety on the streets would be a concern. In the event of an accident, I don't think
these carts would keep occupants safe since they don't provide much, if any protection.
If there were to be an accident with another vehicle or stationary object such as a
telephone pole or street sign, serious injury or ejection could occur. Golf carts don't
come equipped with air bags or seat belts so the lack of safety features suggests that
they are meant for recreation areas where there aren't any large vehicles competing for
the same space. Furthermore, they are light and can flip easily, which raises more
concerns about upper torso and head injuries. I haven't seen people wearing head or
upper body protection in carts, so as a result and someone could suffer greatly from a
bad injury even at low speeds. I have seen kids driving these around, and I don't think
it's a good idea to have inexperienced drivers operating the carts around larger vehicles
as well. I realize the top speed of the carts are around 15mph, but that is going pretty
fast considering there is no protection in the case of an accident or flip. An accident
going 15mph in a car is much more survivable in the case of an accident. Another thing
to consider is insurance. If there is an accident and it's the fault of the person driving a
golf cart, how would insurance cover property or injury to the affected party? Also, what
if the golf cart operator is under the age of 16 and doesn't have auto insurance?
Golf carts take up the same amount of a parking spot than a car. Unless there is
coordination with another person in a golf cart, there could possibly be 2 carts squeezed
in a spot at the same time, but it seems unlikely. Also, I don't' think it's a good idea to
section off areas in parking lots for them there isn't not enough demand and I don't think
it would be a wise use of real estate for the city or a retailer.
I think it would be fun if we all had them, but that's just it, we would all have to have
them equalizing the streets that they would drive on, but that isn't going to happen.
don't want to see these on the roads with cars, busses and delivery trucks. These carts
may make sense in planned, gated communities or retirement neighborhoods where the
weather is nice all year and if everyone has them, but not here with seasonal use and
streets set up for much larger vehicles.
I'm sure there are a lot of good intentions here, but those intentions do not fit with the
parking, layout and traffic patterns of Webster. If the idea here is to throw a cooler in
the back of a golf cart and drive around on game day, then get a wagon and walk, but
for now, let's keep the carts in parades and on golf courses. Until there is a better
argument for the carts I don't see how they can be justified, just keep using them quietly
in your neighborhood and factor in a ticket from the police every now and then towards
operating costs.
Lindy Carroll
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Exhibit 4
Katie Nakazono - Remarks of Visitors - Golf Cart Ordinance, Bill #9141
From: Robert Heyder <robert.heyder@gmail.com>
To: <citycouncil@webstergroves.org>, <nakazonok@webstergroves.org>, <mayor@w...
Date: 2/2/2021 9:00 AM
Subject: Remarks ofVisitors - GolfCatt Ordinance, Bill #9141
My name is Robert Heyder, I am a WG resident & support golfcarts in our community.
I believe the proposed safety features are appropriate but request the removal ofthe permitting
requirement. Spot ticketing in lieu ofpermitting would be a valid option, given the relatively low
quantity ofgolfcarts, limited seasons they can be driven, & ease oflaw enforcement to view
missing features. Lastly, I request exceptions for elderly, disabled & those with special needs.
Additionally, I have compiled a list of147 golfcart supporters, in favor oflimiting the restrictions.
First, safety has been the biggest factor associated with the proposed ordinance. I am a proponent of
safety but am concerned we may be making a mountain out ofa molehill.
Below is the data comparing golfcart injuries to other approved eco-friendly transportation:
-Golfcarts account for 13,000 injuries/yr, vs. bicycles which cause 467,000 injuries/yr.
-Golfcarts account for 13,000 injuries/yr, vs. Electric Scooters which cause 27,700 injuries/yr.
-A Fatality is 85 times more likely to occur on a bicycle than a golfcart, and a fatality is nearly
twice as likely on an electric scooter. (per Consumer Product Safety Comm., CDC & injurvfacts.n c.org)
Furthermore, in March 2019, WG set a precedent by approving the use ofelectric scooters on
public streets in anticipation ofrideshare scooter companies coming to town. Yet, the CDC &
Consumer Product Safety Comm. data shows that golfcarts are twice as safe.
Nothing is risk free, but on a comparative basis, Golf carts are a very safe alternative.
Applying permit requirements on golf carts based on false safety concerns would be
unjustified.
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Additionally, golfcarts are legalized in 47 states & provide benefits to the community, including:
• environmental benefits,
• a social form oftransportation,
• promote community,
• provide a safe form ofsenior transportation.
Golfcarts also benefit local businesses, as golfcarters are more likely to visit local restaurants,
opposed to evaluating options which may be outside ofWG, ifdriving a car. WG stands to generate
greater sales tax and keeps the community close.
Please don't overly regulate golf carts based on the premise of Safety, while the data shows
golf carts are a very safe alternative.
Sincerely,
Robert Heyder
* * Please note that certain abbreviations were made to limit the word count.
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Exhibit 5
Katie Nakazono - Remarks of Visitors - Bill #9141
From: <michelle_heyder@yahoo.com>
To: <citycouncil@webstergroves.org>, <nakazonok@webstergroves.org>
Date: 2/2/2021 12:46 PM
Subject: Remarks of Visitors - Bill #9141
Dear Mayor Welch, Council Members - Alexander, Arnold, Bliss, Franklin, Richardson, and
Smith, City Manager Peoples, City Clerk Nakazono, Chief Curtis, and Captain Perks
My name is Michelle Heyder and I am a resident of Webster Groves and support golf carts in our
community without permitting and excess regulations.
The use of golf carts in our community provide many benefits including: Environmental benefits,
Eco Friendly, Low speed, Social form of transportation, Sense of neighborliness / community, Safe
form of transport for seniors, Take less space to park, Benefit local restaurants and businesses and
Family fun in our community.
Golf carts are a safe transportation alternative and I ask that you approve the use without permitting
and excess regulations.
Sincerely,
Michelle Heyder
Webster Resident
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Exhibit 6
Katie Nakazono - Re: Remark on Bill #9141
From: Katie Nakazono
To: seyer, christine
Date: 2/2/2021 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: Remark on Bill #9141
>>> <christineseyer@gmail.com> 2/2/2021 9:38 AM >>>
My name is Christine Seyer. I am a resident of Webster Groves for over 70 years.
I do not own a golf cart, but I support the use use of them in our community. I have never
had an issue with any of them, and quite frankly, seldom come across them at all. Has
anyone really had any issues with them? You all are talking like they are rampant,
causing accidents, etc. That is certainly not the case.
The pros definitely out weigh the negatives. I honestly don't see any negatives of these
eco friendly vehicles. They add to the charm of our community!
Please approve the use of them without permitting and excess regulation.
Thank you for all that the council does for our city!
Christine Seyer
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Exhibit 7
Katie Nakazono - RE: Remarks of Visitors - Bill #9141
From: John Lewis <jblewis13@att.net>
To: <nakazonok@webstergroves.org>, <citycouncil@webstergroves.org>
Date: 2/2/2021 9:40 AM
Subject: RE: Remarks of Visitors -Bill #9141
Dear Mayor Welch, Council Members - Alexander, Arnold, Bliss, Franklin, Richardson, and
Smith, City Manager Peoples, City Clerk Nakazono, Chief Curtis, and Captain Perks
My name is John Lewis, I am a resident of Webster Groves and support golf carts in our
community without permitting and excess regulations.
We have vacation property in a golf cart community and it is amazing what it does for community.
People stop and talk to their neighbors. Kids actually go for rides with their parents. This is great
opportunity to drive more business to local shops and restaurants. I understand that some people are
citing safety concerns, and I think that is completely exaggerated. Owning a golf cart and
experiencing a golf cart community myself, I can tell you that they are safe and fun and I think it
would change Webster for the better.
Sincerely,
John Lewis,
Webster Resident
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Exhibit 8
Katie Nakazono - Remarks of Visitors - Bill #9141
From: "Sadlo, Peter" <peter.sadlo@rbc.com>
To: "citycouncil@webstergroves.org" <citycouncil@webstergroves.org>
Date: 2/2/2021 10:09 AM
Subject: Remarks of Visitors -Bill #9141
Cc: "nakazonok@webstergroves.org" <nakazonok@webstergroves.org>
Good day City of Webster Groves,
I want to express my interest in maintaining that golf carts be legal in Webster Groves. I have worked with
the City Council in the town of Dauphin Island to make them legal there with much success. We found that
when people are driving in golf carts they often wave to each other and often stop to talk even to
strangers. That doesn't typically happen in a car. Our golf carts in WG and there are only 4 h.p. and all
electric. For pennies of electricity, we can run all of our errands, take the kids to soccer and have dinner
out. There is almost no maintenance. We don't produce the heat, noise, air pollution or oil pollution
(dripping cars) of a 300 h.p. vehicle. If Webster promotes carts, you will see a dramatic increase in sales tax
revenue within the city. I only shop and eat within 2 miles of my house with the cart. The local shops will
love having more of them. On Dauphin Island we have had zero reported accidents involving golf carts and
have found they are more likely pick up trash on the roadways through our going green project. All golf
carters typically carry a bag to put road trash in. Our town has never been cleaner. Webster Groves is
perfectly suited for carts versus a Kirkwood or Brentwood. This is an instance where less regulation is
better. There is not a problem to be fixed.
All the best,
Pete
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Exhibit 9
REMARKS OF VISITORS - FORM LETTER
ALL RECEIVED - Feb 2, 2021 FROM:
• David E. Austin
• Justin Bolzenious
• Nancy & Rob Eveker
• Kate Hanneke
• Weston Harding
• Alex Hill
• Lindsey Roberts
• Willie Jim Rush IV
• Stephanie Widaman
The letter reads as follows, and the individual letters will be Exhibits to the
Feb 2 meeting minutes:
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Katie Nakazono - Remarks of Visitors - Bill #9141
From: Nancy Eveker <eveker@charter.net>
To: <citycouncil@webstergroves.org>, <nakazonok@webstergroves.org>
Date: 2/2/2021 10:32 AM
Subject: Remarks of Visitors - Bill il9121-1
I am a resident of Webster Groves and support golf carts in our community without
permitting and excess regulations.
I believe the safety concerns are being exaggerated. Additionally golf carts provide substantial
benefits, including:
• Environmental benefits
• Eco Friendly
• Low speed
• Social form of transportation
• Sense of neighborliness / community
• Safe form of transport for seniors
• Take less space to park
• Benefit local restaurants and businesses
Golf carts are a safe transportation alternative, provide many benefits, and I ask that you approve
the use without permitting and excess regulations.
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Katie Nakazono - Remarks of Visitors -Bill #9141
From: David Austin <davideaustin@sbcglobal.net>
To: "citycouncil@webstergroves.org" <citycouncil@webstergroves.org>, "nakazo...
Date: 2/2/2021 9:20 AM
Subject: Remarks of Visitors -Bill #9141
Cc: David Austin <davideaustin@sbcglobal.net>
Dear Mayor Welch, Council Members -Alexander, Arnold, Bliss, Franklin, Richardson, and Smith, City
Manager Peoples, City Clerk Nakazono, Chief Curtis, and Captain Perks:
My name is David Austin, and I am a resident of Webster Groves for over 25 years. I fully support golf carts in
our community without permitting and excess regulations.
I believe the safety concerns with golf carts are being exaggerated by those that wish to prohibit their usage in
our community.
In addition to safe and reasonable transportation, golf carts provide other benefits including:
• Dependable access and transportation for those that can't or don't have access to a "traditional" vehicle
• Environmental benefits and eco-friendliness
• Low speed
• Social form of transportation
• Sense of neighborliness/ community
• Safe form of transport for seniors
• Take less space to park
• Benefit local restaurants and businesses
Golf carts offer safe transportation, provide many benefits for the citizens and community of Webster Groves,
and I request that you approve their use without permitting and excess regulations.
Sincerely,
David E. Austin
443 Sherwood Dr.
Webster Groves, MO
314-202-0946
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From: Justin Bolzenius <justin_bolzenius@hotmail.com>
To: "citycouncil@webstergroves.org" <citycouncil@webstergroves.org>
CC: "nakazonok@webstergroves.org" <nakazonok@webstergroves.org>
Date: 2/2/2021 11:48 AM
Subject: Remarks ofVifil!Q_r - Bill# 9141
Dear Mayor Welch, Council Members - Alexander, Arnold, Bliss, Franklin, Richardson, and Smith, City Manager Peoples, City Clerk
Nakazono, Chief Curtis, and Captain Perks
My name is Justin Bolzenius, a seven year resident ofWebster Groves. I write to you today to voice my support ofgolfcarts and other
low speed vehicles (LSV) within our community.
In recent weeks, residents have voiced their concerns over the usage ofgolfcarts within Webster Groves. I believe an equitable
solution for all parties can be easily obtained. I believe that golfcarts should be permitted under the following conditions.
- The driver must be oflegal driving age and must posses a government issued drivers license.
- The vehicle must have the appropriate lights (head lamps, tail lights and blinkers).
- The vehicle must have seat belts for all riders.
- Vehicle cannot be operated on a street or roadway where it can not maintain an appropriate speed.
- Prohibited from operating on public sidewalks
These parameters are the same parameters / ordinances that other municipalities have instituted with success.
Ifgolfcarts are to be prohibited by Webster Groves, then I ask that all LSV (including but not limited to Vespas, hover boards, electric
bicycles, etc..) be prohibited as well.
Thank you for your consideration on this matter,
Justin Bolzenius
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Katie Nakazono - RE: Remarks of Visitors - Bill #9141
From: Kate Hanneke <kateseyer@gmail.com>
To: "citycouncil@webstergroves.org" <citycouncil@webstergroves.org>, "nakazo ...
Date: 2/2/2021 9:07 AM
Subject: RE: Remarks of Visitors - Bill #9141
Dear Mayor Welch, Council Members - Alexander, Arnold, Bliss, Franklin, Richardson, and
Smith, City Manager Peoples, City Clerk Nakazono, Chief Curtis, and Captain Perks
My name is Kate Hanneke, I am a resident of Webster Groves and support golf carts in our
community without permitting and excess regulations.
I believe the safety concerns are being exaggerated. Additionally golf carts provide substantial
benefits, including:
• Environmental benefits
• Eco Friendly
• Low speed
• Social form of transportation
• Sense of neighborliness / community
• Safe form of transport for seniors
• Take less space to park
• Benefit local restaurants and businesses
Golf carts are a safe transportation alternative, provide many benefits, and I ask that you approve
the use without permitting and excess regulations.
Sincerely,
Kate Hanneke
Webster Resident
Kate Seyer Hanneke
314-393-7519
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Katie Nakazono - Remarks of Visitors-Bill #9141
From: H Squared Apartments <hsquaredapartments@gmail.com>
To: <citycouncil@webstengroves.org>, <nakazonok@webstergroves.org>
Date: 2/2/2021 1 :29 PM
Subject: Remarks of Visitors-Bill #9141 ::....--
Dear Mayor Welch, Council Members - Alexander, Arnold, Bliss, Franklin, Richardson, and
Smith, City Manager Peoples, City Clerk Nakazono, Chief Curtis, and Captain Perks
My name is Weston Harding, I am a resident of Webster Groves and support golf carts in our
community without permitting and excess regulations.
I believe the safety concerns are less than suggested and the benefits outweigh the risk. Some of the
benefits include:
• Eco Friendly-No carbon emissions
• Low speed-capped at 20mph
• Social form of transportation
• Sense of neighborliness / community
• Safe form of transport for seniors
• Benefit local restaurants and businesses
Golf carts are a fun and I feel they are a safe transportation alternative to enjoy the community. I've
talked to friends family and neighbors, and all seem to be in agreement that good for Webster.
I ask that you approve the use without permitting and excess regulations, which would stifle some
users.
Sincerely,
Weston Hwding
468 hawthorne
Webster Resident
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Katie Nakazono - RE: Remarks of Visitors-Bill #9141
From: Alexander Hill <ahill8008@hotmail.com>
To: "citycouncil@webstergroves.org" <citycouncil@webstergroves.org>
Date: 2/2/2021 1:20 PM
Subject: RE: Remarks of Visitors - Bill #9141
Dear Mayor Welch, Council Members - Alexander, Arnold, Bliss, Franklin, Richardson, and
Smith, City Manager Peoples, City Clerk Nakazono, Chief Curtis, and Captain Perks
My name is Alexander Hill, I am a resident of Webster Groves and support golf carts in our
community without permitting and excess regulations.
I believe the safety concerns are being exaggerated. Additionally golf carts provide substantial
benefits, including:
• Environmental benefits
• Eco Friendly
• Low speed
• Social form of transportation
• Sense of neighborliness / community
• Safe form of transport for seniors
• Take less space to park
• Benefit local restaurants and businesses
Golf carts are a safe transportation alternative, provide many benefits, and I ask that you approve
the use without permitting and excess regulations.
Sincerely,
Alex Hill,
Webster Resident
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Katie Nakazono - RE: Remarks of Visitors - Bill #9141
From: Lindsey Roberts <lnroberts13@gmail.com>
To: <citycouncil@webstergroves.org>, <nakazonok@webstergroves.org>
Date: 2/2/2021 10:09 AM
Subject: RE: Remarks of Visitors - Bill #9141
Dear Mayor Welch, Council Members - Alexander, Arnold, Bliss, Franklin, Richardson, and
Smith, City Manager Peoples, City Clerk Nakazono, Chief Curtis, and Captain Perks
My name is Lindsey Roberts, I am a resident of Webster Groves and support golf carts in our
community without permitting and excess regulations.
I believe the safety concerns are being exaggerated. Additionally golf carts provide substantial
benefits, including:
• Environmental benefits
• Eco Friendly
• Low speed
• Social form of transportation
• Sense of neighborliness / community
• Safe form of transport for seniors
• Take less space to park
• Benefit local restaurants and businesses
Golf carts are a safe transportation alternative, provide many benefits, and I ask that you approve
the use without permitting and excess regulations.
Sincerely,
Lindsey Roberts,
Webster Resident
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Katie Nakazono - Remarks ofVistors
From: Jim Rush <jczrush@gmail.com>
To: <citycouncil@webstergroves.org>, <nakazonok@webstergroves.org>
Date: 2/2/2021 11 :05 AM
Subject: Remarl{§ ofVistors
My name is Jim Rush. I am a resident ofWebster Groves and support golf carts in our community
without permitting and excess regulations.
I believe the safety concerns are being exaggerated. Additionally, golf carts provide substantial
benefits, including:
• Environmental benefits
• Eco Friendly
• Low speed
• Social form oftransportation
• Sense ofneighborliness/community
• A safe form of transport for seniors
• Take less space to park
• Benefit local restaurants and businesses
I had personally witnessed Golf cart owners use their carts to help the elder get to and from
Webster Groves Jazz fest or 4th July festivities when they were having difficulty walking.
I'm also a business owner that chose to place my business in Rockhill as opposed to Webster due to
stories I heard from other business owners regarding the difficulties they had dealing with the city
ofWebster Groves.
Decisions like these can harm the desirability ofour community.
Golfcarts are a safe transportation alternative, provide many benefits, and I ask that you approve
the use without permitting and excess regulations.
Sincerely,
Willie Jim Rush IV
430 W Lockwood Ave.
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Katie Nakazono - RE: Remarks of Visitors -Bill #9141
From: Stephanie Flynn <stephflynn lOl@yahoo.com>
To: "citycouncil@webstergroves.org" <citycouncil@webstergroves.org>, "nakazo...
Date: 2/2/2021 12:37 PM
Subject: RE: Remarks of Visitors -Bill #9141
Dear Mayor Welch, Council Members - Alexander, Arnold, Bliss, Franklin, Richardson,
and Smith, City Manager Peoples, City Clerk Nakazono, Chief Curtis, and Captain Perks
My name is Stephanie, I am a resident of Webster Groves and support golf carts in our
community without permitting and excess regulations.
I believe the safety concerns are overstated. Golf carts provide substantial benefits,
including:
• Environmental benefits
• Eco Friendly
• Low speed
• Social form of transportation
• Sense of neighborliness / community
• Safe form of transport for seniors
• Take less space to park
• Benefit local restaurants and businesses
Golf carts are a safe transportation alternative, provide many benefits to our families and
our community, and I ask that you approve the use without permitting and excess
regulations.
Sincerely,
Stephanie Widaman
Webster Resident
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The remaining golf cart letters contain additional
comments within the form letter.
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Exhibit 10
Katie Nakazono - Golf carts
From: AErin Greco <akagreco@gmail.com>
To: <citycouncil@webstergroves.org>
Date: 2/2/2021 10:49 AM
Subject: Golf carts
RE: Remarks of Visitors- Bill #9141
Dear Mayor Welch, Council Members - Alexander, Arnold, Bliss, Franklin, Richardson, and
Smith, City Manager Peoples, City Clerk Nakazono, Chief Curtis, and Captain Perks
Hello,
I am adding my name to this because it will help with the traffic issues pertaining to speeding and
cut thru traffic. As u know I have been pushing for decreasing speed limits and additional stop
signs. Golf carts will slow speeding down. I also believe this will encourage the increase number
of walkers in our walking community and help support our local restaurants.
My name is AErin Greco, I am a resident of Webster Groves and support golf carts in our
community without permitting and excess regulations.
I believe the safety concerns are being exaggerated. Additionally golf carts provide substantial
benefits, including:
• Environmental benefits
• Eco Friendly
• Low speed
• Social form of transportation
• Sense of neighborliness / community
• Safe form of transport for seniors
• Take less space to park
• Benefit local restaurants and businesses
Golf carts are a safe transportation alternative, provide many benefits, and I ask that you approve
the use without permitting and excess regulations.
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Sincerely,
AErin Greco
Webster Resident
AErin Greco
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Exhibit 11
Katie Nakazono - Remarks of Visitors -Bill #9141
From:r Jennah Bartels <jennah_bartels@yahoo.com>
To: "citycouncil@webstergroves.org" <citycouncil@webstergroves.org>, "nakazo ...
Date: 2/2/2021 2:36 PM
Subject: emarks of Visitors - Bill #9141
Dear Mayor Welch, Council Members -Alexander, Arnold, Bliss, Franklin, Richardson, and
Smith, City Manager Peoples, City Clerk Nakazono, Chief Curtis, and Captain Perks
My name is Jennah Bartels, and I am a resident of Webster Groves residing in south Webster
close to Edgar Rd Elementary. I fully support golf carts in our community without permitting and
excess regulations. I believe the safety concerns are being exaggerated as we currently have
many golf carts already in our community (including south Webster) and I have yet to see any
negative consequences. Additionally golf carts provide substantial benefits, including:
• Eco Friendly
• Low speed
• Social form of transportation
• Sense of neighborliness / community
• Safe form of transport
• Take less space to park
• Benefit local restaurants and businesses
Golf carts are a safe transportation alternative, provide many benefits, and I ask that you approve
the use without permitting and excess regulations.
Sincerely,
Jennah Bartels,
Webster Resident
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Exhibit 12
Katie Nakazono - RE: Remarks of Visitors -Bill #9141
From: Aaron Parton <aparton21@gmail.com>
To: <citycouncil@webstergroves.org>, <nakazonok@webstergroves.org>
Date: 2/2/2021 1:16 PM
Subject: RE: Remarks of Visitors - Bill #9141
Dear Mayor Welch, Council Members - Alexander, Arnold, Bliss, Franklin, Richardson, and
Smith, City Manager Peoples, City Clerk Nakazono, Chief Curtis, and Captain Perks
My name is Aaron Parton, My wife and I have been residents of Webster Groves with our two
daughters since 2013. I wanted to take a few moments to explain why we own a golf cart and
support golf carts in our community.
I am not sure of the past comments regarding safety and regulations but believe the safety concerns
can be exaggerated. We purchased a golf cart in 2018 and have enjoyed many safe rides around the
neighborhood, into Downtown Webster and neighboring Kirkwood. While I believe that it is
necessary to ensure the safety of all residents in our city, I don't support any form of permit taxation
and other excessive regulations on the use of golf carts in Webster Groves. Additionally golf carts
provide many benefits, including:
• Environmentally Friendly
• Low speed
• Fun form of transportation
• Sense of neighborliness / community
• Take less space to park
• Benefit local restaurants and businesses
As our city continues to bring in younger families and grows around the downtown area, Golf carts
are a safe transportation alternative to Cars, Trucks and SUVs. They provide many benefits, and I
ask that you approve the use without permitting and excess regulations.
Sincerely,
Aaron and Andrea Parton,
Webster Resident
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Exhibit 13
Katie Nakazono - Remarks of Visitors -Bill #9141
From: Bradley Rohlf <brad[eyrohlf@gmail.com>
To: <citycouncil@webstergroves.org>, <nakazonok@webstergroves.org>
Date: 2/2/2021 1 :53 PM
Subject: Remarks of Visitors -Bill #9141
Dear Mayor Welch, Council Members - Alexander, Arnold, Bliss, Franklin, Richardson, and
Smith, City Manager Peoples, City Clerk Nakazono, Chief Curtis, and Captain Perks
My name is Bradley, I am a resident of Webster Groves and support golf carts in our community
without permitting and excess regulations. You no doubt have received a number of comments, but
I implore you in considering them to weigh empirical evidence of any argument, rather than a
"what if."
I believe the safety concerns are being exaggerated. Additionally golf carts provide substantial
benefits, including:
• Environmental benefits
• Low speed
• Social form of transportation
• Sense of neighborliness I community
• Safe form of transport for seniors
• Take less space to park
• Benefit local restaurants and businesses
On top of it all, they're cool and fun - that may seem silly, but The Hill and Soulard are some of the
most vibrant and desirable neighborhoods in the city, and all see wide use of golf carts.
Golf carts are a safe transportation alternative, provide many benefits, and I ask that you approve
the use without permitting and excess regulations.
Sincerely,
Bradley Rohlf
Webster Resident
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Exhibit 14
Katie Nakazono - Remarks of Visitors- Bill #9141
From: Kelly Bender <kellylbender@gmail.com>
To: <citycouncil@webstergroves.org>
Date: 2/2/2021 3:54 PM
Subject: Remarks of Visitors- Bill #9141
Cc: <nakazonok@webstergroves.org>
Dear Mayor Welch, Council Members - Alexander, Arnold, Bliss, Franklin, Richardson, and Smith, City
Manager Peoples, City Clerk Nakazono, Chief Curtis, and Captain Perks
My name is Kelly Bender, I am a resident of Webster Groves and support golf carts in our community
without permitting and excess regulations.
I believe the safety concerns are far less than have been suggested and the benefits outweigh the risk.
Some of the benefits include:
• Friendly for the environment with no carbon emissions
• Increases business to our beloved local restaurants and shops
• Fosters a sense of community
• Safe form of transport for our seniors
I believe golf carts are a fun and safe transportation alternative to help us enjoy the community. I have
spoken with my neighbors and they seem to be in agreement that golf carts are good for our community.
I ask that you approve the use without permitting and excess regulations.
Sincerely,
Kelly Bender
Webster Resident
Sent from my iPhone
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Exhibit 15
Katie Nakazono - Remarks of visitors
From: Holly Rodman <holmiche@hotmail.com>
To: "citycouncil@webstergroves.org" <citycouncil@webstergroves.org>
Date: 2/2/2021 9:45 AM
Subject: Remarks of visitors
Cc: "nakazonok@webstergroves.org" <nakazonok@webstergroves.org>
My name is Holly Rodman, I am a resident of Webster Groves and support golf carts in our
community without permitting and excess regulations.
In addition to the items below, my handicapped brother loves nothing more than to go for a golf
cart ride on a Sunday afternoon I would love for him to be able to do this at my home in Webster
groves I also believe that this encourages local spending and supporting small businesses and
community feel
I believe the safety concerns are being exaggerated. Additionally golf carts provide substantial
benefits, including:
• Environmental benefits
• Eco Friendly
• Low speed
• Social form of transportation
• Sense of neighborliness / community
• Safe form of transport for seniors
• Take less space to park
• Benefit local restaurants and businesses
Golf carts are a safe transportation alternative, provide many benefits, and I ask that you approve
the use without permitting and excess regulations.
Sincerely,
Holly Rodman (and Todd and our children Ella, Liam, Serena, and Colin)
Webster Residents
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Agenda
Due to St. Louis County health regulations, the February 2, 2021 Work Session and
Regular Meeting will be available to the public only via teleconference. Instructions on
listening through your phone or computer to the teleconference are available at
webstergroves.org/teleconference.
Those who wish to provide a comment under the Remarks of Visitors section or
related to a Public Hearing may do so by email. All emails should include in the
subject line: “Remarks of Visitors” and be sent to citycouncil@webstergroves.org no
later than 4 p.m. February 2, 2021 in order to be included in the meeting minutes. In
addition, if you would like to speak during either Remarks of Visitors or a Public
Hearing, please use the “Raise Hand” button on Zoom. You will be called upon when
it is your turn to speak. To ease identification, please use your first and last name
when signing on to the Zoom session. Public comment will be limited to the
designated time frame during each public hearing, and Remarks of Visitors.
Comments will be limited to three minutes.
CITY OF WEBSTER GROVES
COUNCIL WORK SESSION AGENDA
DATE: FEBRUARY 2, 2021
6:30 P.M.
LOCATION – CITY HALL
(VIA TELECONFERENCE)
#4 E. LOCKWOOD AVENUE
1. BOARD & COMMISSION INTERVIEWS
2. REVIEW REGULAR AGENDA
3. MAYOR/COUNCIL/CITY MANAGER ISSUES/MEETING UPDATES
4. TOPICS
• Allocation of Potential Use Tax Funds and Budget Discussion
• Public Affairs & Engagement Director
5. APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS
6. EXECUTIVE (CLOSED SESSION)
RE: 1. ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGED COMMUNICATIONS
[MO. STATUTE 610.021 (1)]
2. REAL ESTATE [MO. STATUTE 610.021 (2)]
3. PERSONNEL [MO. STATUTE 610.021 (3)]
4. NEGOTIATED CONTRACT [MO. STATUTE 610.021 (12)]
7. ADJOURNMENT
CITY OF WEBSTER GROVES
CITY COUNCIL MEETING
DATE: FEBRUARY 2, 2021
7:30 P.M.
LOCATION – CITY HALL - #4 E. LOCKWOOD - (VIA TELECONFERENCE)
Due to St. Louis County health regulations, the February 2, 2021 Regular Meeting will be
available to the public only via teleconference. Instructions on listening through your phone or
computer to the teleconference are available at webstergroves.org/teleconference.
Welcome to the regular meeting of the City Council. We welcome questions, ideas and
comments from persons in attendance. Members of the audience may, however, comment
only when recognized by the Mayor or Mayor ProTem if the Mayor is absent. We ask that
comments be limited to three minutes in order to complete the agenda within a reasonable
time. Comments concerning items not on the agenda should be made during the Remarks of
Visitors section of the agenda, near the beginning of the meeting.
(Due to St. Louis County health regulations Remarks of Visitors comments, and Public
Hearing comments, may be submitted via email to citycouncil@webstergroves.org no later
than 4 p.m. on February 2, 2021 in order to be included in the meeting minutes. Please
include “Remarks of Visitors” in the subject line. In addition, if you would like to speak during
either Remarks of Visitors or a Public Hearing, please use the “Raise Hand” button on Zoom.
You will be called upon when it is your turn to speak. To ease identification, please use your
first and last name when signing on to the Zoom session. Public comment will be limited to
the designated time frame during each public hearing, and Remarks of Visitors. Comments
will be limited to three minutes.)
I. ROLL CALL
II. REMARKS OF VISITORS
III. NEW BUSINESS - MAYOR, COUNCILMEMBERS, CITY ATTORNEY, CITY
MANAGER
IV. NEW BUSINESS
1. Bill #9141 – First and Second Reading – An Ordinance of the City of Webster
Groves, Missouri Amending Chapter 60, “The Traffic Code” Article I, Section 60.010
“Definitions” and Article X, “Miscellaneous Regulations” Section 60.635 “Use of
Motorized Play Vehicles, Roller Skates, Coasters, and Similar Devices”, and Adding a
New Section 60.636 “Operating Personal Assistive Mobility Devices, Golf Carts, and
Low Speed Vehicles; Definitions, Prohibitions, Penalty” and Matters Related Thereto
2. Bill #9142 – First and Second Reading – An Ordinance Repealing the Restrictions
Established with the Approval of Ordinance #3705 While Maintaining the
Establishment of Thirty-Four Single Family Residential Lots and Matters Related
Thereto
V. APPROVAL OF CONSENT AGENDA
1. Approval of Minutes – January 19, 2021
2. Resolution #2021-07 – Amending the Budget for Fiscal Year 2021
3. Resolution #2021-08 – Authorizing the City Manager to Enter into an Agreement for
Materials Testing and Inspection Services for the Fire House 2 Project
VI. APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS
VII. EXECUTIVE (CLOSED SESSION)
RE: 1. ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGED COMMUNICATIONS
[MO. STATUTE 610.021 (1)]
2. REAL ESTATE [MO. STATUTE 610.021 (2)]
3. PERSONNEL [MO. STATUTE 610.021 (3)]
4. NEGOTIATED CONTRACT [MO. STATUTE 610.021 (12)]
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
Individuals who require an accommodation (sign language, interpreter, listening
devices, etc.) to participate in the meeting should contact the City Clerk at 314-963-
5318 (fax number 314-963-7561) or Relay Missouri at 1-800-735-2966 (TDD) at least two
working days prior to the meeting.
NEXT REGULAR MEETING DATE: TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 16, 2021
LOCATION – VIA TELECONFERENCE
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