Citizen's Environmental Quality Committee
Regular MeetingWinona, MN · August 5, 2021
Minutes
CITIZENS ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMITTEE MEETING NOTES
DATE: Thursday August 5, 2021
TIME: Scheduled for 4:30 pm in the City Hall Misato Room
PRESENT: Paul Schmitt, Dan Hall, Julie Fassbender, David Ruff and Niki Ciulla
GUESTS:
STAFF: John Howard, Katie Grannes (Community Forestry Corps)
1. Call to Order: Call to order at 4:38 PM by Dan Hall (Chair)
2. Review and Approval of July 2021 Meeting Minutes: Motion by Julie, second by Niki. Approval unanimous
without alteration. Paul provided a brief introduction as a new member.
3. CEQC and Sustainability Plan Discussion:
John described the request from staff before the CEQC:
- Does the CEQC desire to pursue commission status? A recommendation of the draft plan is to make
the CEQC a commission.
- What role does the CEQC want to have in the Sustainability Plan implementation?
Dan provided a summary of the current Planning commission relationship with the CEQC.
Julie made a motion to strengthen the plan’s language to change the CEQC’s status to a commission and
have it be voted on by the City Council. Seconded by Dan, and discussion ensued. Niki stated that the
sustainability plan steering committee and staff support move of CEQC to a commission.
Julie asked if it would be necessary to petition the Planning Commission. Dan suggests getting planning
commission support whether it is needed or not. Dan relayed a story about regulation, and value of having
allies in the debate. Julie wondered if the Planning Commission would be unanimous in support? Dan
discussed past issues that were seen as controversial by the CEQC.
Dan suggested he bring it up during the other business section of the Planning Commission. Julie would still
like the decision to be made by the Council about the CEQC becoming a commission. David sees the value in
getting Planning approval. Niki brought up the point of that if the Sustainability Plan calls for the CEQC to be
a commission, does it still need to be discussed as an item? John suggested that having the plan be
approved with the recommendation for the CEQC to be a commission would be the best option. Council
would still likely need to vote to make the CEQC a commission even if called out in the plan.
Julie revised her motion to drop the clause requesting Council action on the CEQC status to simply read
“strengthen the plan’s language to change the CEQC’s status to a commission”. Amended motion seconded
by Dan, all in favor.
Dan relayed the previous experience in trying to have the CEQC be converted to a Commission.
John asked if there was a preference for a name for the new commission. Sustainability Commission seems
like a better title than CEQC.
Dan felt “supervise” was too strong for the role of the CEQC in plan implementation. Advise or consultative
or outreach on plan would be better. Niki discussed her past experience in St. Louis Park and how the
language of what their commission would do was a major discussion point. Julie looked up the language
used for other existing commissions.
John shared that the general concept of the CEQC becoming a commission and their role in the sustainability
plan would be shared with the City Council at a precouncil meeting on the overall sustainability plan. John
will share a link to view/attend the meeting.
David asked how broad or narrow should the scope of the sustainability commission be? Just the
sustainability plan, or other topics? Seems sustainability would cover a pretty broad range of topics. Julie
suggests the CEQC be involved in the comp plan. The more integrated the various plans are, the better.
Niki asked if the Sustainability Plan calls for integration of sustainability into City decision making. John said
that was the intent.
4. Tree Planting Grant Update:
John gave an update that the City will be applying for a grant to have contractor led boulevard planting.
Getting this grant would increase the yearly planting by about 50%. Dan asked what types of places get
trees. John said the trees can go to any public area – such as parks and street boulevards. Dan asked how
trees are distributed. John answered that trees go to folks who request them, with emphasis on replacing
trees lost to road or utility projects.
Niki asked if the City is planting on a sustainable level. John and Katie said more trees are being removed
than are being planted.
David said his Norway Maple needed to be removed. Norway maples in general are not doing well – John
and Katie concurred, with Katie adding that tar spot disease is rampant. Dan asked for clarification on how
to identify a Norway maple from other maples. David said the wavier sinus spacing, smoother bark and
milky sap are all indicative of Norway maples compared to native silver maples.
Dan asked about the watering bag at the base of some trees – are they privately owned, or species
dependent. John said that the boulevard trees did not get one this year, so new trees with bags are likely
privately owned bags. John said that tree watering is a challenge to greater tree planting.
5. Water Related Grant Proposals:
John gave an update that the City is applying for two water related grants. One is the We Are Water exhibit
to be housed at the Winona County History Center. The other is a Clean Water Fund request for large rain
gardens in west lake park, and carp management. This request is for over $500,000. Dan asked what an
infiltration basin is. John described it as a pond that receives stormwater prior to it being discharged directly
to the lake via the stormsewer. Dan asked if bluff sedimentation was a major driver of lake sediment. John
said the majority of the pollutants are from the island part of the city because other basins catch the bluff
sediment prior to Lake Winona.
Paul asked if the CEQC should attend the County meeting? John said he expected questions but feels
confident the proposal will be approved.
Niki asked whether Anne Morse, the County’s sustainability coordinator, had retired? She has, and her
position may be replaced with a recycling coordinator type position.
6. Other Business: Paul asked about the green highlighted draft language at the bottom of the strategies
document. John said these were recommendations that they were unsure what to do with, so for the time
being are not in the plan. Julie asked if recycling was controversial. John said the most controversial items
was a bag fee. Julie likes how the plan is coming together. John invited the committee to send in further
ideas or suggestions for the plan. Dan asked about the inter city transit connection, and what that all meant.
John said the intent is to have more regular service between other nearby cities like Rochester and La
Crosse.
7. Adjournment: Motion to adjourn made by David, seconded by Julie. 5:47 pm. Approval unanimous.
Notes prepared by John Howard.
Agenda
August 2, 2021
Citizens Environmental Quality Committee
Winona, Minnesota 55987
Dear Committee Members:
The next meeting of the Citizens Environmental Quality Committee meeting will be held
on Thursday, August 5, 2021 at 4:30 p.m. in the Misato Room at City Hall.
1. Call to Order
2. Review of July Meeting Minutes
3. Discussion of CEQC role in Sustainability Plan (30 minutes)
4. Tree Planting Grants Update (5 minutes)
5. Water Related Grant proposals (10 minutes)
6. Other Business (5 minutes)
7. Adjournment
Sincerely,
John Howard
Natural Resources Sustainability Coordinator
CITIZENS ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMITTEE MEETING NOTES
DATE: Thursday July 1, 2021
TIME: Scheduled for 4:30 pm in the City Hall Misato Room
PRESENT: Dan Hall, David Ruff, Julie Fassbender, and Niki Ciulla
GUESTS: Paul Schmitt
STAFF: John Howard
1. Call to Order: Call to order at 4:31 PM by Dan Hall (Chair)
2. Review and Approval of May 2021 Meeting Minutes: Motion by Julie to approve the minutes, David
seconded. Approval unanimously without alteration.
3. Sustainability Plan Discussion:
John provided a summary on engagement work. Over 700 people have taken the survey or participated in a
conversation or engagement event. Total numbers greatly exceeded expectations. Respondents generally
very supportive of sustainability focus. Community gardens were a popular topic.
John suggests it would be useful to have a discussion at the August meeting about how the CEQC is
mentioned or assigned responsibility in the plan. Also, John would value the CEQC members’ suggestions on
strategies to improve the sustainability of the City.
David suggested there is a variety of expertise needed to address the wide variety of sustainability topics.
Niki asked if more small and specialized groups would be more successful than a larger group responsible.
Niki brought up the last discussion of the steering committee about using strategies listed in existing plan vs.
having strategies more compartmentalized to different plans. Discussion amongst members favored having
overlap of goals in strategies
4. Community Garden Update:
John said the big news is that Minnesota State Southeast has a garden plot ready, and is open for planting.
MN SE has a commercial kitchen and sustainable ag. program that can tie into the garden. Niki mentioned
there is a substantial food pantry on campus too.
Julie does not think the SE Tech garden is the end solution, or that the subcommittee achieved the desired
goal. Niki would have liked more discussion on a vision and mission for gardens. David cautioned about
using the immediate solution as the end solution. Seemed there were two desires of attendees of the
community garden discussion this spring: a new garden as soon as possible, and more gardens overall.
Niki suggested the YMCA youth could play a role in the garden. Niki feels that understanding the need for a
garden will be important to the overall success of the garden program.
5. Tree Planting:
John noted that this year was one of the City’s biggest tree planting years. The map included in the CEQC
packet shows the boulevard trees planted this year, but does not include the 5 trees planted by the Friends
of Winona Parks. Dan relayed his neighbors’ experience with losing their boulevard trees, and how the City
had a variety of replacement options.
John discussed how the City currently focuses our efforts on providing boulevard trees to those who ask for
trees to ensure they are taken care of. The downside is that areas in need may not get trees, so the
distribution of trees is sub‐optimal. Currently the City lacks the staffing to water trees in the boulevard.
There is also a request by some councilmembers to have a tree planting strategy. Niki and CEQC interested
in helping with plan. Niki suggests outreach could be done by volunteers to find good tree planting areas.
John mentioned grants will keep bringing in trees, so Winona will have at least 100 trees for the next three
years.
6. Other Business: David discussed the bird club’s letter to the city council regarding Prairie Island Park, which
was sent a couple months ago. The letter was precipitated by the establishment of two disc golf holes near
bird and threatened frog habitat. David draws two conclusions from this experience: 1. There are interested
and passionate groups about park use, and the more the city can tap into the interest and expertise of these
groups, the better. 2. Currently a lack of proactive plans for habitat areas under City ownership.
David enquired about whether the City has NHIS access? John says no.
Dan asked about recycling and where it goes. John said he toured the facility and said plastics typically get
downcycled to lumber and carpet. He is unsure where the metal and glass go. Dan relayed his experience in
the plastics industry, and how some companies are willing to pay a premium for recycled plastic or “ocean
bound” plastic for their products.
7. Adjournment: Meeting adjourned at 5:45 pm. Approval unanimous.
Notes prepared by John Howard.
CITIZENS ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMITTEE
AGENDA ITEM: 3. Discussion of CEQC Role in Sustainability Plan
PREPARED BY: John Howard
DATE: August 5, 2021
The City’s Sustainability Plan is at the stage where strategies are being created for
implementation. One suggested strategy that is particularly relevant to the CEQC is to
evaluate the role of the CEQC and the potential for its conversion into a commission.
A second question is whether the CEQC or a new entity should supervise implementation of
the plan. Staff will be recommending that an environmental body beyond just staff be
involved in plan implementation.
Particular items staff recommends including in the discussion:
Does the CEQC as a whole support re-starting the attempt to be a stand-alone
commission?
What language should be used when describing the plan recommendation for an
environmental commission? For instance, should the plan state the CEQC will be
making a recommendation, or should the plan be more definitive by stating what the
group decides at this meeting.
What differences would exist between the current CEQC and a sustainability
commission?
How does the CEQC want to be involved in implementing the sustainability plan?
Should this be the main priority of the group for the near term?
CITIZENS ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMITTEE
AGENDA ITEM: 5. Water Related Grant Proposals
PREPARED BY: John Howard
DATE: August 5, 2021
City staff put together two recent water related grant projects:
1. We Are Water Exhibit: An interactive and localized set of displays describing and
explaining water issues. The We Are Water exhibit was developed by multiple agencies at
the State of Minnesota and the Minnesota Humanities Center. If the City is awarded the
chance to run the exhibit, the CEQC could help with local programming and content.
Additional info: https://mnhum.org/we-are-water-mn/
2. Clean Water Fund: Staff is seeking about $485,000 for stormwater infiltration basins at
the west lake, a wetland connection culvert, and carp management. The project would
begin the work proposed by the Lake Winona Water Quality Improvement plan finalized in
the summer of 2020. No immediate request for CEQC involvement, but potential for
CEQC help if the grant is awarded.
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