Citizen's Environmental Quality Committee
Regular MeetingWinona, MN · September 2, 2021
Minutes
CITIZENS ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMITTEE MEETING NOTES
DATE: Thursday Sept. 2, 2021
TIME: Scheduled for 4:30 pm in the City Hall Council Chambers
PRESENT: Paul Schmitt, Dan Hall, David Ruff and Niki Ciulla
GUESTS:
STAFF: John Howard
1. Call to Order: Call to order at 4:38 PM by Dan Hall (Chair)
2. Review and Approval of Aug. 2021 Meeting Minutes: Motion by Paul, second by David. Approval
unanimous without alteration.
3. CEQC and Sustainability Plan Discussion:
John described that he and the consultants presented to the City Council about the plan framework in mid-
August, and received feedback that the Council desired more specific cost details. The consultants and
steering committee were not intending to include detailed cost information, as such information is not
typically included in sustainability plans. The current budget also does not facilitate that level of detail.
Dan and Niki shared their reflections of the meeting.
Dan suggests highlighting the co-benefits of sustainability for businesses in the plan. Also include the soft
sell, value arguments to support sustainability work.
David suggested using a long term vitality argument that sustainability helps retain businesses and attracts
new businesses. Livability and environmental quality are important consideration to attracting and retaining
new employees. Requires long term thinking.
Dan said Winona is blessed with both medium and large sized business. David said bringing regional offices
or retaining allows for a better diversity of jobs and income brackets.
John said that the CEQC status was not a major discussion point, although the mayor did mention he has
heard support for making the CEQC a commission and is open to the idea.
Dan suggests talking to your Council member to let them know your support for the plan and CEQC.
John hopes a full draft of the sustainability plan will be ready for CEQC review in the next month or two.
4. Tree Planting Grant Update:
John gave an update on the various tree related news. The City will have a Community Forestry Corps
member over the next year to help with tree planting. The tentative City budget approved by the City
Council for 2022 does not have funding for tree planting or an additional tree planting staff member. Niki
saw in the paper that a tree crew position was removed from the staff list and is wondering if this is the
same one John is referencing. John believes the position listed in the paper is a different position – it would
remove an unfilled standard tree crew position. John said the City did not receive funding for a contractor
led planting project, but does have grant funding for a full planting slate in 2022. David asked about the size
of the trees the City has funding for. John relayed that the grants would fund 1.5-2 in bareroot trees, with
about 260 in 2022 and 300 over three years for the second grant. Dan asked about the green ribbons
5. Water Related Grant Proposals:
John shared about the We Are Water exhibition coming to Winona in March and April 2022, and asked for
interest from CEQC members to help with local aspects of the exhibit. David interested, but busy. Paul
interested in helping with archival research, and engaging Cotter students. Niki interested in the project too.
John said there is chance to attend a training session in three weeks in St. Paul, but is not necessary. David
suggests contacting the Winona Dakota Unity Alliance.
John invited CEQC members to attend the WinLac watershed planning open house later this month on Sept.
20th. Doors open at 5pm.
John shared that the City is installing fishing bait disposal and invasive species cleaning station.
6. Other Business: Dan relayed WSU business class that is doing a Cal Fremling boat cruise to have business
sustainability discussion. He gave the example of RTP saving water by ending the instant redraw of water.
John said the U of MN extension is looking to assemble a cohort of outstate Minnesotans to work on climate
change communication. Contact John for the information on this opportunity.
7. Adjournment: Motion to adjourn made by David, seconded by Niki. 5:11 pm. Approval unanimous.
Notes prepared by John Howard.
Agenda
August 30, 2021
Citizens Environmental Quality Committee
Winona, Minnesota 55987
Dear Committee Members:
The next meeting of the Citizens Environmental Quality Committee meeting will be held
on Thursday, September 2, 2021 at 4:30 p.m. in the City Council Chambers at City
Hall.
1. Call to Order
2. Review of August Meeting Minutes
3. Sustainability Plan Update (20 minutes)
4. Tree Planting Grants Update (5 minutes)
5. Water Related Projects Update (10 minutes)
6. Other Business (5 minutes)
7. Adjournment
Sincerely,
John Howard
Natural Resources Sustainability Coordinator
CITIZENS ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMITTEE MEETING NOTES
DATE: Thursday August 5, 2021
TIME: Scheduled for 4:30 pm in the City Hall Misato Room
PRESENT: Paul Schmitt, Dan Hall, Julie Fassbender, David Ruff and Niki Ciulla
GUESTS:
STAFF: John Howard, Katie Grannes (Community Forestry Corps)
1. Call to Order: Call to order at 4:38 PM by Dan Hall (Chair)
2. Review and Approval of July 2021 Meeting Minutes: Motion by Julie, second by Niki. Approval unanimous
without alteration. Paul provided a brief introduction as a new member.
3. CEQC and Sustainability Plan Discussion:
John described the request from staff before the CEQC:
‐ Does the CEQC desire to pursue commission status? A recommendation of the draft plan is to make
the CEQC a commission.
‐ What role does the CEQC want to have in the Sustainability Plan implementation?
Dan provided a summary of the current Planning commission relationship with the CEQC.
Julie made a motion to strengthen the plan’s language to change the CEQC’s status to a commission and
have it be voted on by the City Council. Seconded by Dan, and discussion ensued. Niki stated that the
sustainability plan steering committee and staff support move of CEQC to a commission.
Julie asked if it would be necessary to petition the Planning Commission. Dan suggests getting planning
commission support whether it is needed or not. Dan relayed a story about regulation, and value of having
allies in the debate. Julie wondered if the Planning Commission would be unanimous in support? Dan
discussed past issues that were seen as controversial by the CEQC.
Dan suggested he bring it up during the other business section of the Planning Commission. Julie would still
like the decision to be made by the Council about the CEQC becoming a commission. David sees the value in
getting Planning approval. Niki brought up the point of that if the Sustainability Plan calls for the CEQC to be
a commission, does it still need to be discussed as an item? John suggested that having the plan be
approved with the recommendation for the CEQC to be a commission would be the best option. Council
would still likely need to vote to make the CEQC a commission even if called out in the plan.
Julie revised her motion to drop the clause requesting Council action on the CEQC status to simply read
“strengthen the plan’s language to change the CEQC’s status to a commission”. Amended motion seconded
by Dan, all in favor.
Dan relayed the previous experience in trying to have the CEQC be converted to a Commission.
John asked if there was a preference for a name for the new commission. Sustainability Commission seems
like a better title than CEQC.
Dan felt “supervise” was too strong for the role of the CEQC in plan implementation. Advise or consultative
or outreach on plan would be better. Niki discussed her past experience in St. Louis Park and how the
language of what their commission would do was a major discussion point. Julie looked up the language
used for other existing commissions.
John shared that the general concept of the CEQC becoming a commission and their role in the sustainability
plan would be shared with the City Council at a precouncil meeting on the overall sustainability plan. John
will share a link to view/attend the meeting.
David asked how broad or narrow should the scope of the sustainability commission be? Just the
sustainability plan, or other topics? Seems sustainability would cover a pretty broad range of topics. Julie
suggests the CEQC be involved in the comp plan. The more integrated the various plans are, the better.
Niki asked if the Sustainability Plan calls for integration of sustainability into City decision making. John said
that was the intent.
4. Tree Planting Grant Update:
John gave an update that the City will be applying for a grant to have contractor led boulevard planting.
Getting this grant would increase the yearly planting by about 50%. Dan asked what types of places get
trees. John said the trees can go to any public area – such as parks and street boulevards. Dan asked how
trees are distributed. John answered that trees go to folks who request them, with emphasis on replacing
trees lost to road or utility projects.
Niki asked if the City is planting on a sustainable level. John and Katie said more trees are being removed
than are being planted.
David said his Norway Maple needed to be removed. Norway maples in general are not doing well – John
and Katie concurred, with Katie adding that tar spot disease is rampant. Dan asked for clarification on how
to identify a Norway maple from other maples. David said the wavier sinus spacing, smoother bark and
milky sap are all indicative of Norway maples compared to native silver maples.
Dan asked about the watering bag at the base of some trees – are they privately owned, or species
dependent. John said that the boulevard trees did not get one this year, so new trees with bags are likely
privately owned bags. John said that tree watering is a challenge to greater tree planting.
5. Water Related Grant Proposals:
John gave an update that the City is applying for two water related grants. One is the We Are Water exhibit
to be housed at the Winona County History Center. The other is a Clean Water Fund request for large rain
gardens in west lake park, and carp management. This request is for over $500,000. Dan asked what an
infiltration basin is. John described it as a pond that receives stormwater prior to it being discharged directly
to the lake via the stormsewer. Dan asked if bluff sedimentation was a major driver of lake sediment. John
said the majority of the pollutants are from the island part of the city because other basins catch the bluff
sediment prior to Lake Winona.
Paul asked if the CEQC should attend the County meeting? John said he expected questions but feels
confident the proposal will be approved.
Niki asked whether Anne Morse, the County’s sustainability coordinator, had retired? She has, and her
position may be replaced with a recycling coordinator type position.
6. Other Business: Paul asked about the green highlighted draft language at the bottom of the strategies
document. John said these were recommendations that they were unsure what to do with, so for the time
being are not in the plan. Julie asked if recycling was controversial. John said the most controversial items
was a bag fee. Julie likes how the plan is coming together. John invited the committee to send in further
ideas or suggestions for the plan. Dan asked about the inter city transit connection, and what that all meant.
John said the intent is to have more regular service between other nearby cities like Rochester and La
Crosse.
7. Adjournment: Motion to adjourn made by David, seconded by Julie. 5:47 pm. Approval unanimous.
Notes prepared by John Howard.
CITIZENS ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMITTEE
AGENDA ITEM: 3. Sustainability Plan Update
PREPARED BY: John Howard
DATE: September 2, 2021
The City’s Sustainability Plan consultant and staff discussed the plan strategies with the City
Council at their last regular meeting. The main comment received was that City Council
requests more detailed figures on what the plan’s strategies would cost. Staff will discuss this
request and other conclusions with the CEQC.
CITIZENS ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY COMMITTEE
AGENDA ITEM: 5. Water Related Projects Update
PREPARED BY: John Howard
DATE: September 2, 2021
Two items to note:
1. The City was awarded the opportunity to host the We Are Water Exhibit in early 2022. As
this project moves forward, staff will seek CEQC input on the exhibit design and contents.
2. On Monday, September 20th, the One Watershed One Plan program will have a kick off
open house at the Tau Center beginning at 5 pm. The Open House will introduce the One
Watershed One Plan (1W1P) process, with the first step being getting input from the public.
All citizens may take part and broad participation is needed to identify and prioritize the
issues the community cares about. Local leaders need to hear from landowners, farmers,
business owners, public employees, nonprofit leaders, students, educators, and recreational
water users.
Short presentations will be held at 5:30 and 6:30 PM to include an overview of the 1W1P
process, watershed overview and updates on issues that exist in the watershed. After
presentations, the public will be able to share their valuable input on what matters most to
them.
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