City Council Workshop
Regular MeetingBlaine, MN · October 10, 2013
Minutes
10801 Town Square Dr.
City of Blaine Blaine MN 55449
Anoka County, Minnesota
Minutes - Final
City Council Workshop
*While this is a public meeting where interested persons are
welcome to attend, it is a work session for Council and staff
to discuss issues before them. It is not for the purpose of
receiving public input.
Thursday, October 10, 2013 6:30 PM Cloverleaf Farm Room A
Meeting Number 13-50
NOTICE OF WORKSHOP MEETING
The meeting was called to order by Mayor Ryan at 6:30 p.m.
Quorum Present.
ALSO PRESENT: Clark Arneson, City Manager; Tom Sweeney, City
Attorney; Bryan Schafer, Planning Director; Bob Therres, Public Services
Manager; Joe Huss, Finance Director; Jean Keely, City Engineer; Chris
Olson, Police Chief/Safety Services Manager; Roark Haver, Communications
Technician; and Recording Secretary Linda Dahlquist.
Present: 6 - Councilmember Clark, Councilmember Bourke, Councilmember Herbst,
Mayor Ryan, Councilmember Hovland, and Councilmember Swanson
Absent: 1 - Councilmember Kolb
1. WS 13-58 RECOMMENDATIONS FOR APPROVING STORM
DRAINAGE TREATMENT IN NEW DEVELOPMENTS
Sponsors: Therres
Attachments: rear yard infiltration basin example.pdf
Public Services Manager Therres stated rule changes for treating storm water
runoff from the watershed districts and the Minnesota Pollution Control
Agency are requiring an increase on infiltration practices. He stated the
smaller development developers are proposing swales and infiltration basins
in drainage and utility easements in the rear of residential yards, which makes
the storm water treatment facilities public and will need to be maintained by
the City.
Councilmember Herbst commented developers could install drain tile and
rock.
Councilmember Hovland stated District 1 had a situation with drainage for
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over 10 years and finally it has been corrected.
Councilmember Clark arrived at 6:38 p.m.
City Engineer Keely stated if the Watershed Districts find the infiltration
basins are not working, they would require the City to correct. She stated the
preference would be for a development to have infiltration basins in an outlot
or regional basin for storm water drainage. She stated rain gardens in the
front of residential lots would still be an option.
Councilmember Bourke commented accessibility is the biggest issue with
drainage easements and developers don’t educate buyers.
City Engineer Keely stated a policy on infiltration basins is needed. She
stated Coon Creek and Rice Creek Watershed Districts have updated their
storm water drainage requirements.
Councilmember Clark asked if the infiltration basin would be deeded to the
City. City Engineer Keely replied if the infiltration basin is in an outlot it
could get deeded to the City. Councilmember Clark said he wants to keep
responsibility in homeowner’s hands not the city.
Public Services Manager Therres stated when the City directs the street water
onto residential properties; it would be the responsibility of the City to
maintain.
Councilmember Herbst suggested using the Storm Water Assessment Fee to
fund maintenance. Could have a higher storm water rate and give a credit if a
resident maintains the storm water basin.
Mayor Ryan asked if smaller lots could be an option for developers.
Councilmember Clark asked if staff meets with the builders. City Engineer
Keely stated staff meets with each developer at the time of developing the
land and Jim Hafner holds a meeting with developers and builders annually.
Councilmember Hovland said that sump manholes are important to keep
sediment out of infiltration basins.
Council consensus was the Engineering Department to update the City’s
storm water drainage policy.
Discussed
2. WS 13-59 PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM - CURRENT
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STATUS AND FUTURE PROGRAM NEEDS
Sponsors: Therres
Attachments: Pavement Condition.pdf
2014 pmp location map.pdf
Public Services Manager Therres stated the first three years of the Pavement
Management Program focused on overlays on a backlog of streets that needed
overlays. He noted that 14.98 miles need overlays, 10.59 miles need
reconstruction, and 33.21 miles need reconstruction with curb, gutter and
storm drainage improvements. He stated the focus for 2014 and 2015 will be
on streets deteriorated past the point of needing an overlay. He stated the
projects for 2015 would focus on older areas of the City where currently there
is no curb and gutter or have bituminous curb and gutter. He noted concrete
curb and gutter would be installed and storm sewer upgrades will be made
resulting in larger assessment range per residential lot. He commented that
there will be less mileage and higher assessments in the future.
Council had discussion on various roads that currently do not have curb and
gutter; and on roads that has storm water drainage issues.
City Engineer Keely stated the next projects will be complex and more
expensive.
Councilmember Clark asked if Engineering has project cost projections.
Public Services Manager Therres replied yes. Council discussion on the roads
that will need seal coating, which is funded out of the General Fund and not
the Pavement Management Program.
Councilmember Clark suggested a workshop on traffic impacts on Naples and
Xylite.
Council had discussion on large lot redevelopments, mock platting and traffic
counting.
Discussed
3. WS 13-60 PROPOSED MUNICIPAL STATE AID ROUTE REVISIONS
Sponsors: Therres
Attachments: MSA_Revisions.pdf
City Engineer Keely stated 20% of the City’s roads are Municipal State Aid
(MSA) routes. She stated MnDOT’s MSA office is redefining calculations
for distribution of MSA funds to state aid cities. She stated
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the calculation will be weighted on the volume of the street’s Average Daily
Trips (ADT). She stated staff reviewed street designations and traffic
volumes and recommends adding 105th Avenue, Cloverleaf Parkway,
Naples Street, and 123rd Avenue and rescinding 121st Avenue, Fillmore
Street/Polk Street, and Zest Street. She stated that part of Naples Street
belongs to the City of Lexington and they are not a state aid city.
Councilmember Bourke asked about the structural requirements difference
between a MSA road and a regular city road. City Engineer Keely replied
staff will check on the existing street widths compared to MnDOT standards.
Councilmember Clark asked if a road is designated MSA, will it show up on
Google Maps as a priority route. City Engineer Keely will have to research
that.
Councilmember Herbst asked if the City could designate new MSA roads
from the rescinded roads. City Engineer Keely replied yes.
Discussed
Other Business
Community Center Task Force Guidelines
Councilmembers Clark and Herbst met to develop guidelines for the
Community Center Task Force.
Councilmember Swanson stated he has an issue with the guideline that states
the facility must not compete with private sector businesses such as rental
hall, gym, office space, banquet, etc. He stated these items are needed to
generate revenue.
Mayor Ryan commented if the Council is not in agreement on a community
center a task force should not be established. He stated this project will take
up to two years.
Councilmember Bourke stated he is concerned that the deadline of November
2014 is too short.
Councilmember Hovland suggested getting information on other cities’
community centers. City Manager Arneson replied the task force would
gather that data.
Mayor Ryan suggested publishing an article to get feedback in the newspaper
and City newsletter, and broadcast on Cable TV asking for residential interest
for a community center.
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Public Services Manager Therres suggested using a focus group instead of a
task force.
Councilmember Clark suggested holding district meetings. Councilmember
Bourke replied the residents may perceive the Council is in favor and leading
the charge to build a community center.
Council consensus was that establishing a task force is premature and the
timeframe is too short.
Councilmember Bourke suggested a joint venture with the National Sports
Center.
Council consensus was to put the task force on hold until spring.
Council Retreat Agenda
City Manager Arneson asked the Council for agenda items for the retreat.
Councilmembers suggested EDA, tax policy, City liaisons, Fogerty Arena,
and salaries review.
ADJOURN
The Workshop adjourned at 8:40 p.m.
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Agenda
10801 Town Square Dr.
City of Blaine Blaine MN 55449
Anoka County, Minnesota
Meeting Agenda - Final
City Council Workshop
*While this is a public meeting where interested persons are
welcome to attend, it is a work session for Council and staff to
discuss issues before them. It is not for the purpose of
receiving public input.
Thursday, October 10, 2013 6:30 PM Cloverleaf Farm Room A
Meeting Number 13-50
NOTICE OF WORKSHOP MEETING
In accordance with the provisions of Section 3.01 of the Blaine City Charter, a Council
Workshop meeting is scheduled for Thursday, at 6:30 p.m., at Blaine City Hall,
Cloverleaf Farm Room, 10801 Town Square Drive, Blaine, MN for the following
purpose:
1. WS 13-58 RECOMMENDATIONS FOR APPROVING STORM DRAINAGE
TREATMENT IN NEW DEVELOPMENTS
Sponsors: Therres
Attachments: rear yard infiltration basin example.pdf
2. WS 13-59 PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM - CURRENT STATUS AND
FUTURE PROGRAM NEEDS
Sponsors: Therres
Attachments: Pavement Condition.pdf
2014 pmp location map.pdf
3. WS 13-60 PROPOSED MUNICIPAL STATE AID ROUTE REVISIONS
Sponsors: Therres
Attachments: MSA_Revisions.pdf
ADJOURN
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