Special City Commission Meeting
Special MeetingDeltona, FL · April 8, 2024
Minutes
City of Deltona
2345 Providence Blvd.
Deltona, FL 32725
Minutes
Special City Commission Meeting
Monday, April 8, 2024 7:45 PM Deltona Commission Chambers
DECORUM POLICY: The City of Deltona has a significant interest in conducting
orderly and efficient public meetings, which includes preventing disruption,
promoting civility, and preserving decorum. To that end, behavior which disrupts or
impedes the efficient and orderly conduct of any public meeting, as determined by
the Mayor, or presiding officer, or a majority of the City Commission, is not
permitted. The Mayor, or presiding officer, or a majority of the City Commission, may
interrupt, warn, or terminate a speaker’s statement when that statement is too
lengthy, personally directed, abusive, obscene, irrelevant, or otherwise reasonably
perceived to be a disruption to the fair and orderly progress of the discussion at
hand. The Mayor, or presiding officer, or a majority of the City Commission, may also
interrupt any part of the meeting to warn any individual that they are being
disruptive or otherwise impeding the efficient and orderly conduct of the meeting.
The Mayor, or presiding officer, or a majority of the City Commission, may require
any individual to leave a public meeting for its duration if that individual is unable to
observe this Policy after being warned. Should an individual be required to leave a
meeting for violating this Policy, that person shall be escorted from Commission
Chambers by a Volusia Sheriff’s Deputy.
1. CALL TO ORDER:
The meeting was called to order at 7:46 p.m. by Mayor Avila.
2. ROLL CALL – CITY CLERK:
Present: 7 - Mayor Avila
Vice Mayor JodyLee
Commissioner Avila-Vazquez
Commissioner Colwell
Commissioner Heriot
Commissioner McCool
Commissioner Shimkus
3. PLEDGE TO THE FLAG:
4. BUSINESS:
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A. Final selection of the City Manager candidates by the City Commission.
Interim City Manager Glenn Whitcomb gave a brief overview of the item.
Mayor Avila noted that Candidate Silverman withdrew his application for City Manager.
Lynelle Klein of Colin Baenziger and Associates read out the scores each applicant
received from the City Manager Selection Committee (CMSC). The Committee choice
from highest preference to least was: Scott Andrews (19), Dale Dougherty (29), Michael
Silverman (50), Terry Suggs (51), Carmen Davis (54), Christopher Miller (60), Robin Hayes
(62), and Jason Glenn (71). In this case, the lower scores indicate higher preference.
The Commission, staff, and Mrs. Klein discussed the CMSC recommendation, a candidate
meeting with the Interim City Manager, interviewing candidates, showing up, the meet &
greet, appreciating the CMSC, hiring influence, policies and procedures, communicating
with the CMSC, and public appearance.
Mayor Avila opened the public comments and Elbert Bryan addressed the City
Commission.
The Commission discussed the City Attorney interview format and the Saturday interview
process.
Motion by Commissioner Shimkus, seconded by Commissioner
Avila-Vazquez, to accept the Committee's recommendation and invite
the top 5 to come in for an interview this weekend. The motion carried
by the following vote:
For: 7 - Mayor Avila, Vice Mayor JodyLee, Commissioner
Avila-Vazquez, Commissioner Colwell, Commissioner Heriot,
Commissioner McCool, and Commissioner Shimkus
B. Discussion regarding the City Manager interview process.
The Commission discussed timing, citizen involvement, and the City tour for candidates.
The City Clerk gave a brief description of the timeline for the City Manager interview
process.
The Commission, staff, and Mrs. Klein discussed extending the meet & greet to 8:00 p.m.,
who leads the City tour, public interviews, public comment, interview questions, soliciting
questions from the public, solving the City's issues, coming prepared, canned answers,
quick thinking, and adding additional meet & greets.
Mayor Avila opened the public comments and Elbert Bryan and Jim Pescha addressed the
City Commission.
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The Commission, staff, and Mrs. Klein discussed soliciting questions from the public and
extending time for public comment.
After discussion, Commissioner McCool requested to extend public comment to
4 minutes on all City Manager related topics until this process is finished and
the Commission concurred.
The Commission, staff, and Mrs. Klein discussed breaking the cycle, doing what the
residents want, Commission attendance at the meet & greet, interacting with residents,
extending the meet & greet to 8:30 p.m., Deltona's unique issues, candidates' approach to
problems, pre-set questions, and interview freedom.
After discussion, Mayor Avila requested that the Commission be free to ask
whatever questions they have proposed and the Commission concurred.
The Commission, staff, and Mrs. Klein discussed interview length, voting at the April 15th
meeting, extending the timeline, being long-winded, and sticking to the provided schedule.
C. Discussion regarding the City Attorney and the future of that position.
The Interim City Manager gave a brief overview of the item.
The Commission and City Attorney discussed work-shopping the topic, hiring a larger firm,
institutional knowledge, resident perception, land development and use, the pass-through
ordinance, the volume of work to do, confidence, over-correcting, bringing back trust, more
legal help, issues with developers, proportionate fair share, taxpayers' costs, improvement,
accessibility, fresh eyes, wisdom and experience, personal attacks, the rumor mill, being
proactive, the previous law firm, soliciting the right help, an in-house attorney, billable hours,
team work, Charter Officers, loyalty, waiting for the new City Manager, firms we employ, too
much change at once, being short-staffed, City Attorney helping where needed, insurance
lawyers, Roper P.A., specialty attorneys, hiring a search firm, bringing item back to the
Commission, putting a plan in place, sustainability, consulting prior firms interviewed,
having a hybrid model, having a staff lawyer, and hiring paralegals.
Motion by Commissioner Shimkus, seconded by Commissioner Heriot,
to have the Interim City Manager reach out to the last two top ranked
firms and have them submit back whether they are still interested and if
their proposals have changed as well as reconsider this topic at a
workshop within the next 60 days.
The Commission discussed personal feelings, loyalty to the City, protecting the City,
outgrowing the previous law firm, other firms, land use codes, the Comprehensive Plan,
getting a fresh perspective, competency, things falling through the cracks, not waiting for a
"good time", and making the motion time specific.
Mayor Avila opened the public comments and Kathy Bryan, Carolyn Hickerson, and Elbert
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Bryan addressed the City Commission.
The Commission and staff discussed starting the process, going out to bid, hiring in-house,
the new City Manager's input, timeline for seating new City Manager, poor follow through,
and headhunters.
Amended motion by Commissioner Shimkus, seconded by
Commissioner Heriot, to have the Interim City Manager reach out to the
last two top ranked firms and have them submit back whether they are
still interested and if their proposals have changed as well as to
reconsider this topic at the first meeting in May. The amended motion
carried by the following vote:
For: 5 - Mayor Avila, Vice Mayor JodyLee, Commissioner Heriot,
Commissioner McCool, and Commissioner Shimkus
Against: 2 - Commissioner Avila-Vazquez, and Commissioner Colwell
5. PUBLIC FORUM: Time permitted, public comments shall be limited to items on the
agenda and shall not exceed two minutes. Please be courteous and respectful of the
views of others. Personal attacks on Commission members, City staff or members of
the public are not allowed, and will be ruled out of order by the Mayor.
6. CITY MANAGER COMMENTS:
The Interim City Manager reported that Finance Director Mari Leisen has tendered her
resignation effective April 16, 2024.
7. ADJOURNMENT:
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 9:45 p.m.
______________________________
Santiago Avila, Jr., MAYOR
ATTEST:
________________________________
Joyce Raftery, CMC, MMC, CITY CLERK
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Agenda
City of Deltona
2345 Providence Blvd.
Deltona, FL 32725
Agenda
Special City Commission Meeting
Mayor Avila
Vice Mayor JodyLee
Commissioner Avila-Vazquez
Commissioner Colwell
Commissioner Heriot
Commissioner McCool
Commissioner Shimkus
Monday, April 8, 2024 7:45 PM Deltona Commission Chambers
DECORUM POLICY: The City of Deltona has a significant interest in conducting
orderly and efficient public meetings, which includes preventing disruption,
promoting civility, and preserving decorum. To that end, behavior which disrupts or
impedes the efficient and orderly conduct of any public meeting, as determined by
the Mayor, or presiding officer, or a majority of the City Commission, is not
permitted. The Mayor, or presiding officer, or a majority of the City Commission, may
interrupt, warn, or terminate a speaker’s statement when that statement is too
lengthy, personally directed, abusive, obscene, irrelevant, or otherwise reasonably
perceived to be a disruption to the fair and orderly progress of the discussion at
hand. The Mayor, or presiding officer, or a majority of the City Commission, may also
interrupt any part of the meeting to warn any individual that they are being
disruptive or otherwise impeding the efficient and orderly conduct of the meeting.
The Mayor, or presiding officer, or a majority of the City Commission, may require
any individual to leave a public meeting for its duration if that individual is unable to
observe this Policy after being warned. Should an individual be required to leave a
meeting for violating this Policy, that person shall be escorted from Commission
Chambers by a Volusia Sheriff’s Deputy.
1. CALL TO ORDER:
2. ROLL CALL – CITY CLERK:
3. PLEDGE TO THE FLAG:
4. BUSINESS:
A. Final selection of the City Manager candidates by the City Commission.
Background: The City Commission confirmed the appointment of a fourteen-member
City Manager Selection Committee on September 6, 2023. The City
Manager Selection Committee has met on a several occasions and
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has completed their review of the City Manager candidates. On April
5th their candidates were submitted to the City Commission to be
considered for the position of City Manager.
Attachments: Procedure to Select Finalists
Straw Preference Poll for Finalist
Andrews, Scott - Resume
Davis, Carmen - Resume
Dougherty, Dale - Resume
Glenn, Jason - Resume
Hayes, Robin - Resume
Miller, Christopher - Resume
Silverman, Michael - Resume
Suggs, Terry - Resume
B. Discussion regarding the City Manager interview process.
Background: This item is so the City Commission can discuss and direct staff as to
how the candidate interview process will be conducted. Some points of
discussion that have been brought up are as follows: Time frame for
each of the one-on-one interviews? What questions will be asked of
each candidate and how many during the public interviews? Will the
Commission rank the final candidates? Who will negotiate the contract
with the selected candidate and what should be negotiated? Attached
is a guide (Preparation & events for interview weekend) to help the
Commission with these questions and any others that may come up
during the discussion.
Attachments: Preparation/Events Interview Weekend
Draft Interview Schedule
C. Discussion regarding the City Attorney and the future of that position.
Background: On several occasions members of the City Commission have brought
up revisiting the City Attorney applicants which were presented and
ranked by the City Commission on February 5, 2024. This item is so
the City Commission can have that discussion and provide direction to
the Interim City Manager as necessary.
5. PUBLIC FORUM: Time permitted, public comments shall be limited to items on the
agenda and shall not exceed two minutes. Please be courteous and respectful of the
views of others. Personal attacks on Commission members, City staff or members of
the public are not allowed, and will be ruled out of order by the Mayor.
6. CITY MANAGER COMMENTS:
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7. ADJOURNMENT:
NOTE: If any person decides to appeal any decision made by the City Commission
with respect to any matter considered at this meeting or hearing, he/she will need
a record of the proceedings, and for such purpose he/she may need to ensure that
a verbatim record of the proceedings is made, which record includes the testimony
and evidence upon which the appeal is to be based (F.S. 286.0105).
Individuals with disabilities needing assistance to participate in any of these
proceedings should contact the City Manager in writing at
CityManager@deltonafl.gov or to Deltona City Hall, 2345 Providence Blvd.,
Deltona, FL 32725 at least 48 hours prior to the meeting at which the person
wishes to attend. The City is not permitted to provide the use of human physical
assistance to physically handicapped persons in lieu of the construction or use of
ramps or other mechanical devices in order to comply with Florida law. If proper
accommodations for handicapped access cannot be made at a particular public
meeting venue pursuant to a timely written request under Section 286.26 F.S., the
City Manager shall change the venue of that meeting to a location where those
accommodations can be provided.
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