Parks and Recreation Commission Meeting
Regular MeetingDripping Springs, TX · August 12, 2013
Minutes
MINUTES
CITY OF DRIPPING SPRINGS
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
Monday,August 12,2013
City Hall,511 Mercer Street, Dripping Springs,TX
I. MEETING CALLED TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
Chair Robbie Zamora calls the meeting to order at 6;12 pm. City Administrator Michelle
Fischer takes roll call. Present; Commissioner Robbie Zamora, Chair(DSYSA);
Commissioner Erie Russell, Vice Chair(DSYSA); Commissioner Robert Hayden
(CODS); Commissioner Rich Moore(DSISD); Commissioner Thao Phan(CODS);
Commissioner Erie Henline(DSISD); Commissioner Britt Figueroa(CODS). Absent:
Commissioner Shelly Reeves(DSISD). Also present are City Administrator Michelle
Fischer, Brent Luck with Luck Design Team,Founders Memorial Park Pool Manager
Clay Young, and Hays County Master Naturalists Garry Child and M. Lee Brown.
II. PRESENTATION BY CITIZENS-no one speaks.
III. CONSENT ITEMS
Discussion and Possible Action regarding:
A. Approval of Regular Meeting Minutes, July 8,2013
B. Approval of Special Meeting Minutes, July 17,2013
C. Approval of Special Meeting Minutes, August 1,2013
Commissioner Russell makes a motion to approve the July 8*'^, July 1?"^, and August
L'meeting minutes, seconded by Commissioner Phan. VOTE: all in favor. The
motion is carried.
IV. BUSINESS
Discussion and Possible Action regarding:
A. Request from Dripping Springs Independent School District
(DSISD)for amendment of rules governing minimum ages for
swimmers at Founders Memorial Park Pool, speciBcally
modifying Code of Ordinances Sec. 16.02.064(Pool Rules) to
provide that children under 16 years of age must be
accompanied and supervised by a parent or competent person
at least 18 years of age
1. Report from Clay Young,Pool Manager-Mr. Young
gives an overview ofthe rule change. He reports that parents were dropping their
kids off at the pool and leaving them without supervision. He is concerned that in
case of an emergency pool staff may not be able to contact a parent; they do not
want children to be unattended if removed from the pool for violating pool rules;
the District is eoneemed with liability; and safety is the most important thing.
2. City Staff Report-Ms. Fischer states that the City
Attorney advised that the Commission can agree to the rule change, not approve
it, or approve a modified rule change and the change should be made through an
amendment to the Pool Rules. Her report is on file.
3. Public Hearing-no one speaks.
4. Amendment to Pool Rules- Commissioner Zamora asks if
there is an5dhing in the City's Park Rules regarding leaving a child at a park
without supervision. Ms. Fischer states that the rules do not address it.
Commissioner Russell asks if any provisions are being considered that other pools
do to mitigate risk and allow kids under 16 to go to the pool without an adult. Mr.
Young states that no provisions are being considered at this time. He states that
the guards and pool patrons feel safer with the higher minimum age to enter the
pool. Commissioner Henline states that it seems like the pool should get contact
information for parents when they drop their kids off. Commissioner Russell asks
what the risk is that is being mitigated by the higher minimum age requirements.
Mr. Young states that it reduces the risk for accidents and prevents kids from
being dropped off which may cause problems. Commissioner Russell states
that he feels like the age increase is a quick and partial solution, and we could
learn something from other pools. He states he thinks we could do more to
mitigate risks than just raising the minimum age. Commissioner Zamora states
that it seems like a 16 year old should be able to be responsible for a younger
sibling. Commissioner Henline asks if there are options for what to do with a kid
who is kicked out of the pool; what is the middle ground? Commissioner
Figueroa asks how many times parents have dropped kids off and left. Mr.
Young says it has happened at least 6 times that staff knows about.
Commissioner Figueroa states she thinks it is abandonment to leave your child at
the park unattended. Commissioner Russell states that the rule change is a stop
gap measure and it needs more discussion, more comprehensive thought on
safety, which has not been done but should be put into place by next surmner. He
makes a motion to allow the pool staff to enforce the minimum of age of 16 years
until the end of the summer season and for DSISD to come back to the
Commission with more information and options to lower the minimum age and
improve safety, seconded by Commissioner Moore. VOTE: all in favor. The
motion is carried.
B. Blue Blazes Ranch Development Agreement, to govern the
approximately 35 acres including lots Al, A2, and A3 of Tract
A, Vista Ranch Subdivision recorded in Volume 14,Page 12-13
of the Plat Records of Hays County,Texas
1. Presentation-Jaey Warwick,PE for the project, gives an
overview ofthe project and its parkland dedication.
2. City Staff& Committee Report-Ms. Fischer goes over
the applicant's comments and City Staffs responses regarding Draft 4 of the
agreement that relate to the parkland dedication.
3. Public Hearing-Mr. Child asks questions regarding the
collection of rainwater and amount of impervious cover. Ms. Brown asks about
the trail maintenance.
Attorney advised that the Commission can agree to the rule change, not approve
it, or approve a modified rule change and the change should be made through an
amendment to the Pool Rules. Her report is on file.
3. Public Hearing-no one speaks.
4. Amendment to Pool Rules- Commissioner Zamora asks if
there is anything in the City's Park Rules regarding leaving a child at a park
without supervision. Ms. Fischer states that the rules do not address it.
Commissioner Russell asks if any provisions are being considered that other pools
do to mitigate risk and allow kids under 16 to go to the pool without an adult. Mr.
Young states that no provisions are being considered at this time. He states that
the guards and pool patrons feel safer with the higher minimum age to enter the
pool. Commissioner Henline states that it seems like the pool should get contact
information for parents when they drop their kids off. Commissioner Russell asks
what the risk is that is being mitigated by the higher minimum age requirements.
Mr. Young states that it reduces the risk for accidents and prevents kids from
being dropped off which may cause problems. Commissioner Russell states
that he feels like the age increase is a quick and partial solution, and we could
learn something from other pools. He states he thinks we could do more to
mitigate risks than just raising the minimum age. Commissioner Zamora states
that it seems like a 16 year old should be able to be responsible for a younger
sibling. Commissioner Henline asks if there are options for what to do with a kid
who is kicked out of the pool; what is the middle ground? Commissioner
Figueroa asks how many times parents have dropped kids off and left. Mr.
Young says it has happened at least 6 times that staff knows about.
Commissioner Figueroa states she thinks it is abandonment to leave your child at
the park unattended. Commissioner Russell states that the rule change is a stop
gap measure and it needs more discussion, more comprehensive thought on
safety, which has not been done but should be put into place by next summer. He
makes a motion to allow the pool staff to enforce the minimum of age of 16 years
until the end of the summer season and for DSISD to come back to the
Commission with more information and options to lower the minimum age and
improve safety, seconded by Commissioner Moore. VOTE: all in favor. The
motion is carried.
B. Blue Blazes Ranch Development Agreement, to govern the
approximately 35 acres including lots Al, A2, and A3 of Tract
A,Vista Ranch Subdivision recorded in Volume 14,Page 12-13
of the Plat Records of Hays County,Texas
1. Presentation-Jacy Warwick,PE for the project, gives an
overview ofthe project and its parkland dedication.
2. City Staff& Committee Report-Ms. Fischer goes over
the applicant's comments and City Staff's responses regarding Draft 4 of the
agreement that relate to the parkland dedication.
3. Public Hearing-Mr. Child asks questions regarding the
collection of rainwater and amount of impervious cover. Ms. Brown asks about
the trail maintenance.
4. Parkland Dedication-Commissioner Moore states that he
was on the development agreement review committee and agrees with Staffs
recommendations regarding the applicant's comments in Draft 4. Commissioner
Zamora states that she is concerned with the City's liability for the ponds.
Commissioner Moore makes a motion to approve the parkland dedication with
City Staffs recommended changes to the development agreement based on the
applicant's comments on Draft 4, seconded by Commissioner Henline. VOTE:
all in favor. The motion is carried.
C. Update of City of Dripping Springs Master Plan for Parks,
Recreation and Open Space, Including Review of Public Input
and Establishing Priorities-Mr. Luck hands out survey results
related to park priorities (questions 11 and 14). He reviews the results and show
Commissioners how to drill down on survey results using the website and how to
filter responses set on certain criteria. Commissioner Phan leaves the meeting at
7:35 pm. Mr. Luck explains how the priorities and implementation plan are
different. Commissioners request time to look at the survey, drill down on
specific responses, and form their own opinions. Mr. Luck recommends they
also review the open ended comments submitted. Mr. Luck and the
Commissioners discuss the concept of creating a taxing district to fund parks. No
action is taken on this agenda item.
D. Request from Dripping Springs Water Supply Corporation for
a 15 foot wide Exclusive Water Line Easement on Founders
Memorial Park Property to Serve Founders Memorial Park
and the Pound House-Ms. Fischer reports that City Staff
recommends the following: a survey of the easement be submitted to the City
which includes the easement, other easements and utilities on the property, and
shows the fields; the waterline will only serve the park and the Pound House; the
easement acknowledges that irrigation lines may be included in the easement
area; any work done to the line will not interfere with organized use of the fields,
if the waterline is worked on, the area disturbed must be repaired so that the area
is in as good condition as it was before the work began. She recommends that the
Commission not make a recommendation on the request until the additional
information is submitted with the survey and the easement language.
Commissioner Moore makes a motion to recommend that the Dripping Springs
Water Supply Corporation submit the information, survey and easement language
recommended by City Staff, so that the Commission can make a more informed
decision, seconded by Commissioner Figueroa. VOTE: all in favor. The motion
is carried.
E. Fiscal Year 2013 Budget Amendment Request-Ms. Fischer
gives an overview of the revised proposal for a playground at Foimders Memorial
Park. She recommends that the Commission request the City to authorize the
purchase ofthe playground and its installation using parkland dedication funds for
the deposit on the playground this fiscal year (which is Vi the total cost) and the
balance be spent next fiscal year. She reports that approximately $20,000 in the
parks and recreation budget is expected to not be used and she recommends that
the Commission consider requesting an amendment to the budget to use it to bring
field lights at the Sports & Recreation Park into compliance with the City's
Lighting Ordinance. She states that several citizens have requested that the City
bring the lights into compliance since additional lighting is being installed on
Field 7. Commissioner Russell makes a motion to request a budget amendment
to approve the purchase of a playground for Founders Memorial Park with the
required deposit for half of the cost to come from parkland dedication fees and to
amend the budget to use unspent parks and recreation budget funds to be used to
bring field lights at the Sports & Recreation Park come into compliance with the
Lighting Ordinance, seconded by Commissioner Henline. Commissioners discuss
the need to bring the lights into compliance, how it shows the City's commitment
to dark skies, and asking DSISD to bring their lights into compliance. VOTE: all
in favor. The motion is carried.
F. Fiscal Year 2014 Budget Request- Commissioner Russell makes
a motion to amend the budget request to reflect Vi of the costs for the playground
at Founders Memorial Park being paid for with parkland dedication funds,
assuming the Fiscal Year 2013 budget request amendment related to the
playground is approved, seconded by Commissioner Moore. VOTE: all in favor.
The motion is carried.
G. Request from the Austin Waldorf School for a Reduction of
Rental Fees for the Use of Field #6 at the Dripping Springs
Sports & Recreation Park August 20*'' & 27*'', September 3'^'',
and October 1®* and 3'^'', 2013, Chad Lipscomb, Coach ofAustin
WaldorfSchool Soccer Team-Ms. Fischer reports that the
proposed fee is fair based on a prorated hourly amount and that DSYSA has
approved the use of the field and she recommends approval. Commissioner
Henline recommends approval of the request, seconded by Commissioner
Figueroa. VOTE: all in favor. The motion is carried.
V. REPORTS
Thefollowing updates relate to the planning and administration ofthe City's Parks &
Recreation Program, No Action to be Taken:
A. Maintenance Report- Michael Keaton(on file).
B. Revenues and Expenses Report- Michelle Fischer, City Administrator(on file).
C. Charro Ranch Park - Robert Hayden-Garry Child reports that the fence has been
completed.
D. Founders Memorial Park - Robbie Zamora and Eric Henline
E. Dripping Springs Ranch Park - Rich Moore and Britt Figueroa
F. Sports & Recreation Park - Eric Russell and Shelly Reeves
G. Veterans Memorial Park and Triangle - Thao Phan
H. Farmers Market Report- Jo Ann Touchstone, Market Manager
parks and recreation budget is expected to not be used and she reconunends that
the Commission consider requesting an amendment to the budget to use it to bring
field lights at the Sports & Recreation Park into compliance with the City's
Lighting Ordinance. She states that several citizens have requested that the City
bring the lights into compliance since additional lighting is being installed on
Field 7. Commissioner Russell makes a motion to request a budget amendment
to approve the purchase of a playground for Founders Memorial Park with the
required deposit for half ofthe cost to come from parkland dedication fees and to
amend the budget to use unspent parks and recreation budget funds to be used to
bring field lights at the Sports & Recreation Park come into compliance with the
Lighting Ordinance, seconded by Commissioner Henline. Commissioners discuss
the need to bring the lights into compliance, how it shows the City's commitment
to dark skies, and asking DSISD to bring their lights into compliance. VOTE: all
in favor. The motion is carried.
F. Fiscal Year 2014 Budget Request- Commissioner Russell makes
a motion to amend the budget request to reflect Vi of the costs for the playground
at Founders Memorial Park being paid for with parkland dedication funds,
assuming the Fiscal Year 2013 budget request amendment related to the
playground is approved, seconded by Commissioner Moore. VOTE: all in favor.
The motion is carried.
G. Request from the Austin Waldorf School for a Reduction of
Rental Fees for the Use of Field #6 at the Dripping Springs
Sports & Recreation Park August 20*"* & 27*\ September 3*^^,
and October 1®^ and 3'^'', 2013, Chad Lipscomb, Coach ofAustin
WaldorfSchoolSoccer Team-Ms. Fischer reports that the
proposed fee is fair based on a prorated hourly amount and that DSYSA has
approved the use of the field and she recommends approval. Commissioner
Henline recommends approval of the request, seconded by Commissioner
Figueroa. VOTE: all in favor. The motion is carried.
V. REPORTS
Thefollowing updates relate to the planning and administration ofthe City's Parks &
Recreation Program, No Action to be Taken:
A. Maintenance Report- Michael Keaton(on file).
B. Revenues and Expenses Report- Michelle Fischer, City Administrator(on file).
C. Charro Ranch Park- Robert Hayden-Garry Child reports that the fence has been
completed.
D. Founders Memorial Park -Robbie Zamora and Eric Henline
E. Dripping Springs Ranch Park-Rich Moore and Britt Figueroa
F. Sports & Recreation Park-Eric Russell and Shelly Reeves
G. Veterans Memorial Park and Triangle - Thao Phan
H. Farmers Market Report-Jo Ann Touchstone, Market Manager
VL ANNOUNCEMENTS
A. Regular City Council Meeting, Tuesday, August 13, 2013, at 5:30 p.m.
B. Regular Planning & Zoning Meeting, Tuesday, August 27, 2013, at 7:00 p.m.
C. Regular Parks & Recreation Commission Meeting, Mon., September 9,2013, at 6:00 p.m.
VII. ADJOURN-Commissioner Henline makes a motion to adjourn, seconded by
Commissioner Russell. VOTE: all in favor. The motion is carried and the meeting is adjourned
at 8:52 pm.
Agenda
_ . . AGENDA
flriPPlMo^ D # CITY OF DRIPPING SPRINGS
oDrinfif'' parks & recreation commission
REGULAR MEETING
^^ecreation&OpenSpa«« Monday,August 12,2013-6:00 pm
City Hall,511 Mercer Street, Dripping Springs,TX
Thisfacility is wheelchair accessible and accessible parking spaces are available. Requestsfor
accommodations must be made 48 hours prior to this meeting. Please contact the City Secretary
by Phone (512)858-4725 or Fax(512)858-5646forfurther information.
I. MEETING CALLED TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
Robbie Zamora, Chair(DSYSA) Eric Russell, Vice Chair(DSYSA)
Robert Hayden(CODS) Rich Moore(DSISD)
Thao Phan(CODS) Shelly Reeves(DSISD)
Eric Henline(DSISD) Britt Figueroa(CODS)
City Staff/Appointed Officials: Michelle Fischer, City Administrator
II. PRESENTATION BY CITIZENS
Discussions open tofloor on any subject. No action may be taken by law. Citizens wishing
to speak shall do so after being recognized by the Chair. The Chair and Commission may
establish a time limit on each citizen wishing to speak.
III. CONSENT ITEMS
Discussion and Possible Action regarding:
A. Approval of Regular Meeting Minutes, July 8,2013
B. Approval of Special Meeting Minutes, July 17,2013
C. Approval of Special Meeting Minutes, August 1,2013
IV. BUSINESS
Discussion and Possible Action regarding:
A. Request from Dripping Springs Independent School District
(DSISD) for amendment of rules goveming minimum ages for
swimmers at Founders Memorial Park Pool, specifically modifying
Code of Ordinances Sec. 16.02.064(Pool Rules) to provide that
children under 16 years of age must be accompanied and supervised
by a parent or competent person at least 18 years of age
1. Report from Clay Yoimg,Pool Manager
2. City Staff Report
3. Public Hearing
4. Amendment to Pool Rules
B. Blue Blazes Ranch Development Agreement, to govern the
approximately 35 acres including lots Al, A2, and A3 of Tract A,
Vista Ranch Subdivision recorded in Volume 14, Page 12-13 of the
Plat Records of Hays County, Texas
1. Presentation
2. City Staff& Committee Report
3. Public Hearing
4. Parkland Dedication
C. Update of City of Dripping Springs Master Plan for Parks,
Recreation and Open Space, Including Review of Public Input and
Establishing Priorities
D. Request fi"om Dripping Springs Water Supply Corporation for a 15
foot wide Exclusive Water Line Easement on Founders Memorial
Park Property to Serve Founders Memorial Park and the Pound
House
E. Fiscal Year 2013 Budget Amendment Request
F. Fiscal Year 2014 Budget Request
G. Request from the Austin Waldorf School for a Reduction of Rental
Fees for the Use of Field #6 at the Dripping Springs Sports &
Recreation Park August 20"^ & 2?"^, September 3"^^, and October U*
and 3'^'', 2013, Lipscomb, Coach of Austin Wa^rf School
Soccer Team
V. REPORTS
Thefollowing updates relate to the planning and administration ofthe City's Parks &
Recreation Program. No Action to be Taken:
A. Maintenance Report- Michael Keaton
B. Revenues and Expenses Report- Michelle Fischer, City Administrator
C. Charro Ranch Park - Robert Hayden
D. Founders Memorial Park - Robbie Zamora and Eric Elenline
E. Dripping Springs Ranch Park - Rich Moore and Britt Figueroa
F. Sports & Recreation Park - Eric Russell and Shelly Reeves
G. Veterans Memorial Park and Triangle - Thao Phan
H. Farmers Market Report- Jo Ann Touchstone, Market Manager
VI. ANNOUNCEMENTS
A. Regular City Council Meeting, Tuesday, August 13, 2013, at 5:30 p.m.
B. Regular Planning & Zoning Meeting, Tuesday, August 27, 2013, at 7:00 p.m.
C. Regular Parks & Recreation Commission Meeting, Mon., September 9, 2013, at 6:00 p.m.
VII. ADJOURN
All agenda items listed above are eligiblefor discussion and action unless otherwise
specifically noted. Notice is posted in accordance with Chapter 551, Government Code,
Vernon 's Texas Codes, Annotated. Icertify that the above notice ofmeeting was posted on
the bulletin board at City ofDripping Springs City Hall and the City Dripping Springs
/-) website, wivw.citvofdrippinssprinss.com on ^
the of Ti 2013 at / i) o'clock \ M.
City Secretary: ^
Jo Ann Toifchfto\:ie, City Secr/ib!
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