City Council - Special
Special MeetingGahanna, OH · July 10, 2017
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200 South Hamilton Road
City of Gahanna Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Minutes
City Council - Special
Brian D. Larick, President
Jamie Leeseberg, Vice President
Karen J. Angelou
Nancy R. McGregor
Brian Metzbower
Stephen A. Renner
Michael Schnetzer
Kimberly Banning, Clerk of Council
Council may caucus at 6:30 p.m.
Monday, July 10, 2017 6:30 PM City Hall
A. CALL MEETING TO ORDER - Roll Call.
* Councilman Renner arrived at 6:33 p.m.
Present 7 - Brian D. Larick, Jamie Leeseberg, Stephen A. Renner, Michael Schnetzer,
Nancy R. McGregor, Brian Metzbower, and Karen J. Angelou
B. MOTION RESOLUTION:
MR-0011-2017 MOTION RESOLUTION THAT THIS COUNCIL REQUEST A
HEARING TO OBJECT TO THE NEW D5 LIQUOR PERMIT FOR
BWR GAHANNA LLC, NWC OF BEECHER RD AND HAMILTON
ROAD, GAHANNA, OH 43230.
City Attorney Ewald said this is to provide information; based upon
current correspondence; procedural defect; doesn't require
substantive ground; can serve as a basis on that defect to the
application; state liquor division could review and could recertify or
annul it; doesn't give legal basis but give them more time to review;
Metzbower said reason party has misrepresented is a material fact;
what would constitute; up to the Division of Liquor Control whether or
not info for claim was filed before entity was open; Ewald said would
defer back to Division of Liquor Control; Angelou asked Ewald if we
felt that making an objection on this procedural issue would do
anything; according to Deputy Chief letter we received additional
information; he did a great job of what we can and cannot do; what is
considered reasonable things; there are no bad things that have
happened; took a very long time to fight one liquor license; there is
nothing that has happened; they have received the emails; and they
get it; have the BZA hearing at the end of the month; Angelou asked
Deputy Chief to read his response on the matter.
Deputy Chief Spence read the following:
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"Thank you for providing the attached information sent over the
weekend regarding the Buffalo Wings and Rings (BWR) liquor permit
request before Council. While we certainly understand the community
concern regarding this development, we believe an objection by our
department cannot be supported by facts and evidence. If Council
were to object to the permit the applicant could, and likely will, appeal
to the Ohio Department of Commerce’s Liquor Commission. A
hearing would occur and the City would be required to articulate
specific facts and evidence in support of denying the application. We
have only taken this approach in a very few cases with an objection to
a renewal for Lounge 62 being the most recent. In that case we had
substantive evidence - including several recent violations of liquor law
- supporting our position that the business was not being operated in a
legal and responsible manner (sales to heavily intoxicated persons
resulting in traffic crashes, fight calls, sanitation issues, after-hours
sales, and eventually a homicide). Mr. Ewald represented the City
before the hearing officer and I provided sole testimony in support of
the objection. Despite the efforts of very skilled opposing counsel in
the Lounge 62 case, the City prevailed.
In the action request before Council any objection would be
based upon pure conjecture. The applicant would certainly provide
evidence that the vast majority of a typical franchise owner’s sales
come from food purchases. To support their position they could point
to the Cornerstone Pub that is within very close proximity to the
subdivision in question in which nearly 100% of their sales are derived
from alcohol (the Cornerstone has no on-site food service). The City
has never objected to the Cornerstone’s renewal or that of the Mr.
Sushi - another liquor establishment with a likely similar
food-to-alcohol sales percentage as the proposed BWR site. These
facts alone would substantially weaken any objection offered by the
City.
While the calls-for-service (CFS) information provided for the
Grove City BWR location is seemingly supportive evidence to those
that oppose the construction of this development, the data is irrelevant
to any objection in Gahanna and would likely not be admissible in a
Commission hearing (Mr. Ewald could provide a more informed legal
opinion on its admissibility). However, I did review the call information
and did not see enough to support a denial of renewal if this were
used in a hypothetical situation in Gahanna. It also lacks any
contextual information as many environmental and agency-specific
factors influence police call-for-service and not just the presence of a
liquor establishment. In a cursory review of the call data most is
consistent with any business (false alarm responses, vehicle
lock-outs, parking complaints, etc.). The traffic crashes (those
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occurring on a public roadway and linked only to the business address
by virtue of vicinity), proactive police patrols, business checks and
informational calls would be discounted and not supportive evidence
for an objection. There are a few disturbances and other
crime-related calls which are not significant in number and what one
would expect to find with any liquor permit operation. In strictly giving
our opinion, the call data attached would not be sufficient to prevail in
a renewal objection hearing. The mere fact that the business appears
to have never been the subject of a liquor violation in the three years
of call history provided is compelling evidence that the business is
being operated in a responsible manner. Additionally, any discussion
regarding traffic and the impact the proposed business will have on
area congestion is an entirely separate issue and one that should not
be conflated with the liquor permit request.
In closing, while we appreciate the concerns expressed by the
residents in the area, the Division of Police must remain neutral in this
discussion and not offer an objection to the permit request. It is critical
that we reserve objections to problem businesses already in operation
such as described in the Lounge 62 case. To weigh into a situation
prematurely and without supporting evidence may damage our ability
to prevail in a case where facts and evidence support a direct threat to
public safety. It is simply non-existent in the BWR proposal.
Thankfully, the period of problem liquor establishments and the
resulting community quality-of-life impact on our residents appears
behind us. In our revived problem-solving policing approach we work
with business owners to educate them on the law and provide the
tools necessary to be good stewards of a vibrant Gahanna.
We hope we have answered your questions and clearly stated
the position of the Division of Police. The Chief and I are always
willing to provide any additional information or comment required
based upon our knowledge and experience"
Deputy Chief Spence thanked everyone in attendance and for the
police reports; Angelou said the division has no objection; given that
particular type of objections; dealing with as a Council; taking things
into consideration; they understand process and duties; filing of the
LLC; discrepancy of the dates; filing occurred for an entity that didn't
exist; for sake of discussion; we have a table can be voted; update the
language; make any other motion and do that as well; Schnetzer said
we don't need to amend that this council has an objection is
requesting a hearing; Angelou can support this so it can be looked into
by the proper officials; Schnetzer said has been provided a document
that outlines statutory basis; however; we can use as some proxy to
object; procedural standpoint on the LLC standing; another basis to
support this objection.
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Motion was made by Renner, seconded by Angelou, that the Motion Resolution
be adopted as amended.
Yes: 7- Larick, Leeseberg, Renner, Schnetzer, McGregor, Metzbower and
Angelou
C. ADJOURNMENT -
at 6:58 p.m. by Larick.
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Agenda
200 South Hamilton Road
City of Gahanna Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Agenda
City Council - Special
Brian D. Larick, President
Jamie Leeseberg, Vice President
Karen J. Angelou
Nancy R. McGregor
Brian Metzbower
Stephen A. Renner
Michael Schnetzer
Kimberly Banning, Clerk of Council
Council may caucus at 6:30 p.m.
Monday, July 10, 2017 6:30 PM City Hall
A. CALL MEETING TO ORDER - Roll Call.
B. MOTION RESOLUTION:
MR-0011-2017 MOTION RESOLUTION THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS NO OBJECTION
TO THE NEW D5 LIQUOR PERMIT FOR BWR GAHANNA LLC, NWC
OF BEECHER RD AND HAMILTON ROAD, GAHANNA, OH 43230.
C. ADJOURNMENT.
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