Committee of the Whole
Regular MeetingGahanna, OH · February 23, 2015
Minutes
Office of the Clerk of Council
City of Gahanna 200 South Hamilton Road
Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Minutes
Committee of the Whole
Stephen A. Renner, Chair, Karen J. Angelou, Ryan P. Jolley, Thomas R. Kneeland
Brian D. Larick, Jamie Leeseberg, Michael Schnetzer
Kimberly McWilliams, CMC, Clerk of Council
Monday, February 23, 2015 7:00 PM Council Committee Rooms
Members -
Present 7 - Thomas R. Kneeland, Brian D. Larick, Jamie Leeseberg, Karen J.
Angelou, Michael Schnetzer, Stephen A. Renner, and Ryan P. Jolley
Additional Attendees -
Present: Mayor Becky Stinchcomb, Clerk of Council Kim McWilliams,
Sue Wadley, Chief Murphy, Rory Gaydos, Jennifer Teal, Joann Bury,
Dottie Franey, Rob Priestas, Anthony Jones, Tony Collins, Press,
Scout Troop, Residents.
Renner called the Committee of the Whole to order at 7:00 p.m.
ITEMS - From the Director of Finance
Director of Finance Supporting Documents
1. Motion Resolution to Transfer Appropriations for Payroll Adjustments
Teal brought forth first item, a motion resolution request to transfer
appropriations related with payroll; number of reclassifications at the
end of 2014; final adjustment to pay associated with those positions;
Motion Resolution detailed in memorandum.
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda
2. Supplemental Appropriation: Police Duty Weapons
Teal noted in an attempt to avoid crossover from yearly POs, closed
police duty weapons PO when it was still required; requesting Council
authorize the appropriation; it is within the budget; requesting to be
made available with then and now language; Renner inquired if this is
the fund the police officers pay back; Teal confirmed.
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RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda with then and now language.
3. Creation of a Park Rental Escrow Agency Fund
Teal noted the creation of a Park Rental Escrow Agency Fund;
Agency Fund is when the City holds money on behalf of others; for
example, if someone rents a park they submit a deposit and the City
needs to be able to return the money to them; if there is damage, the
dollars would be deposited into the general fund; the book keeping will
be clean with an escrow fund; trouble with tracking without; will keep it
clean and from an auditing standpoint very good idea.
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda
4. Reauthorize and Confirm Planned Transfers as Appropriated in
ORD-0163-2014
Teal noted language required by Ohio Revised Code to require
Council to offically authorize the transfer of funds between accounts;
from a timing standpoint this request is earlier than normal, but this is
an annual request; requesting Council approval for passage tonight.
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda
ITEMS - From Administration
Administration Supporting Documents
1. Finance Coordinator - Motion Resolution to Transfer Funds from Council
Office
Stinchcomb introduced staffing changes with the intent to bring
Jennifer Teal into the Assistant City Administrator position; also
proposing a Finance Coordinator to assist Finance as Jennifer works
the capacity of two positions; Larick raised concerns that the City's
long term staffing projections to hire at around $65,000-$70,000;
recognizes metrics, performance, and improving processes on how we
do things; not enough to identify that we will do metrics and update
information; raised concerned we are not going to the final step by
addressing the reduction hours, saving money, improving a service
through adding these positions; in order to support a permanent
ongoing expenditure an important question is: what are we trying to
accomplish by adding these positions; the end goal is the betterment
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to the City by adding those things; Stinchcomb clarified that through
hiring another position we will be able to achieve the tasks that have
been laid out, however the initial onset of employment will not address
all of these issues at once; is also concerned with metrics
development and making a permanent position by doing metrics work;
Teal noted we could have provided information as in City will save
$70,000 per year by adding this position; but doesn't feel comfortable
adding that information now as it may be incorrect in practice; Teal
noted the initial step is hiring someone to quantify how are we
working; how much does it cost; and by assessing the current state
will we be able to better make a decision on what we should do; Larick
suggested gathering data kinds of work typically done; once
quantification of work is complete we can get the proper resources; to
pause and do the front end work to understand the ability to support
covering the costs; Stinchcomb noted this is an at will job and at any
time we deem the position unnecessary we could terminate the
position; respectfully at this point we have noted why the position is
important; Larick noted if we cant provide a minimum level of support
then we have not successfully proven the need for the position; Jolley
noted support for the position; purpose is two fold; implementing the
need for the lean Gahanna program; and as we have not partitioned
for the significant amount of work required to collect additional data
required to evaluate the City; without first analyzing what City currently
does and what it needs to do an efficient job, we cannot be against
these positions; next step is to develop a strategic plan to further the
City of Gahanna; feels this person will be spending time to develop a
strategic plan for the City; talked about this plan at the end of last
year; we have lost time on this process; we aren't going to have
anymore hard data until we get someone to collect the hard data; will
support putting on the agenda; and hope Schnetzer noted the
mechanics of the position; inquired when will we begin progress with
this positions; Stinchcomb noted as soon as possible; Schnetzer
inquired how quickly can we get someone in place; Wadley clarified a
minimum of four weeks; Schnetzer noted it has run through the due
process; would adding emergency language be supported; Leeseberg
inquired how soon can we contract; Wadley noted twice as long as
getting someone in place; probably eight weeks; Stinchcomb clarified
a specialized position and would take time to find the right person;
Angelou noted we are getting a performance modeling from metrics;
Teal confirmed; will be coming soon; Angelou noted that process is
part of the data gathering project; coming to some kind of significant
position; we will have some data as to what will happen with taking a
quarter of the process away from permitting and what will be required
to get into a better positions and know what exactly is necessary for
the betterment of the residents of Gahanna; Angelou comfortable with
that level; Stinchcomb noted several staff members want to attend
Lean Ohio training; Renner noted understanding how we got to this
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moment is important; noted the position added would be at the clerical
level; Teal clarified that is slightly misunderstood, it is a career level
four-year degree with experience position; still requires a background
in our environment and when compiling submissions into a particular
document; will require decisions to be made interdepartmentally; has a
high level of expectations; noted the bar keeps rising on the
production of Finance Department; position also needs to be the
"boots on the ground person" to manage the day-to-day functions of
the office; more than just a clerical, but not at the high level executive;
Wadley noted it is a professional level position doing professional level
work; Renner noted more tactical than strategic; Teal agreed; Renner
noted real reason we are discussing the position is Teal filling the
position with a focus on strategic initiatives; noted trying to balance do
we fill positions without data; City structure is lean; could contact an
outside temporary service firm to gain support for Teal to teach the
new positions; Teal noted this is what we have wanted to do since the
Lean Ohio training; can't say for sure how much production, but
position will foster continuous lean-thinking improvement; important to
keep in mind we bring a contract in to buy strategic, buy production,
but we can't buy culture; noted one position will probably not change
everything, but will help make considerable strides to catch up and
leap forward; Renner noted interesting point why we are discussion is
that we are a service organization, we are struggling in that regard as
we do have a budget problem and we are trying to figure out how to
provide more services from what we already have; Kneeland noted
discussion for a long time; all of Council has a good point; noted it is
an affordability issue; if conforms to strategic directions City is going,
we will have met our goals; if it is an at-will position going into this that
can be used as a gate keeper as to how we adjust moving forward;
outcome may show there is an upside to this; maybe we can expand
this role to a more strategic position; Angelou noted there will be
people over to move the pieces around for the coordinator; will be a
good service to the community; Larick noted conceptually this is all
good; structure is a good solution generally; doesn't need to be a
director level position; good at working with the groups; when you go
to the table that you need, you never proceed without determining the
projected outcome; having the courage to say we can at least cover
the cost will be important and that doesn't take large amounts of data
or time; inquired if this position in some fashion will have a recognized
level of training and experience within the quality spectrum; Teal noted
in the job description's current draft format the position will be required
to receive some "yellow belt" training; noted if we are running a class
of "green belts" they are expected to be at that level as we move
through; do we bring in someone with a technical degree and teach
them government; or do we bring in government experience and teach
them quality; can see a wide range of candidates; Larick clarified a
yellow belt is technically executive level; green belt does one project at
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a time and has wide range knowledge; black belt has considerable
experience; master black belt leads the initiative; Jolley noted we often
let the perfect stand in front of the possible; we need to move forward
with what we'd like to get done; Angelou noted expectations are set
out boldly around the table; finding the right person may be difficult;
worked on sustainable model and got policies done; great esteem for
people in administration.
RECOMMENDATION: Motion Resolution on the Regular Agenda.
2. Assistant City Administrator/Director of Finance - Revision to the 2015
Unclassified Salary Ordinance
RECOMMENDATION: Amend by Substitution with Emergency Language.
ITEM - From Mayor's Court
Clerk of Courts Supporting Documents
1. Supplemental Appropriation: Court Case Files
Teal noted requesting a supplemental appropriation for the Court case
files computers; assisting with an electronic solution to scan Court
cases into the system; appropriate use for the Court case fund; at this
time request supplemental for Mayor's Court case file computers.
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda
Adjournment
Kneeland updated Council on the Governance Commission; noted
final receiving of resumes and interest for Governance Commission
was on Friday; have 21 applicants for the Commission and there is a
wide array of ways to make the interviews happen; could interview
partial over a few days or all in the same day; will move forward with
planning; Jolley inquired if we will add an executive session; Kneeland
confirmed;
Renner adjourned the Committee of the Whole at 7:42 p.m.
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Agenda
Office of the Clerk of Council
City of Gahanna 200 South Hamilton Road
Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Agenda
Committee of the Whole
Stephen A. Renner, Chair, Karen J. Angelou, Ryan P. Jolley, Thomas R. Kneeland
Brian D. Larick, Jamie Leeseberg, Michael Schnetzer
Kimberly McWilliams, CMC, Clerk of Council
Monday, February 23, 2015 7:00 PM Council Committee Rooms
ITEMS - From the Director of Finance
2015-0044 Director of Finance Supporting Documents
1. Motion Resolution to Transfer Appropriations for Payroll Adjustments
2. Supplemental Appropriation: Police Duty Weapons
3. Creation of a Park Rental Escrow Agency Fund
4. Reauthorize and Confirm Planned Transfers as Appropriated in
ORD-0163-2014
ITEMS - From Administration
2015-0049 Administration Supporting Documents
1. Finance Coordinator - Motion Resolution to Transfer Funds from Council
Office
Continued Discussion from last Committee of the Whole
2. Assistant City Administrator/Director of Finance - Revision to the 2015
Unclassified Salary Ordinance
Continued Discussion from last Committee of the Whole
ITEM - From Mayor's Court
2015-0046 Clerk of Courts Supporting Documents
1. Supplemental Appropriation: Court Case Files
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