Committee of the Whole
Regular MeetingGahanna, OH · August 10, 2015
Minutes
Office of the Clerk of Council
City of Gahanna 200 South Hamilton Road
Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Minutes
Committee of the Whole
Stephen A. Renner, Chair, Karen J. Angelou, Ryan P. Jolley, Thomas R. Kneeland
Brian D. Larick, Jamie Leeseberg, Michael Schnetzer
Kimberly McWilliams, CMC, Clerk of Council
Monday, August 10, 2015 7:00 PM Council Committee Rooms
CALL TO ORDER
Chair Renner called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
Additional Attendees: Sue Wadley, Rory Gaydos, Jennifer Teal, Joann
Bury, Kim McWilliams, Lt. Jeffrey Spence, Dottie Franey, Rob
Priestas, Mike Musser, Troy Euton, Anthony Jones, Niel Jurist,
Jeannie Hoffman, Residents, Diana Redman, Press.
Present 6 - Thomas R. Kneeland, Brian D. Larick, Jamie Leeseberg, Karen J.
Angelou, Michael Schnetzer, and Stephen A. Renner
Absent 1 - Ryan P. Jolley
ITEM FROM COUNCIL
ORD-0072-2015 TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO CONTRACT WITH
COLUMBUS ASPHALT PAVING, INC. OF 1196 TECHNOLOGY
DRIVE GAHANNA, OHIO 43230 FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF BIG
WALNUT TRAIL SECTION 5; TO SUPPLEMENTALLY
APPROPRIATE $60,000; AND TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY.
Euton said spoke with a few members of Council last week and tonight
we will address some of the concerns; have Darrell Miller, the project
engineer and Tony Slanec, the planning and urban designer here to
answer questions and address some concerns; will be addressing the
trees that will be removed; reminded everyone why we are doing this
project and why this is important; trails are important and highly
desired; have received over 1.6 million dollars up to this point for these
trail projects; everyone is asking why we need a fence; needed for
safety; pedestrians will be walking in the area where golf balls are
being hit; if someone is hit on this trail someone could die; this fence is
important; discussed the original alternative before the fence was
moved; it was moved if you recall to keep the sledding hill and reduce
some of the fence; have eliminated around 400 feet of fence in the
adjustment to the plan; will be adding curb and gutter along the street
so the drivers know there is an edge of street; the number one tee
area is close in proximity to the trail; along the greens there will be
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some fencing to prevent various shots from injuring someone using
the trail; the shots can be up to 70 mph; do not want to put the trail
users in harm’s way; an actual picture was shown to show the
proximity of the trail to the number one tee as well as the number four
tee; number one and number three green pictures were also shown
and it was pointed out where the trail will go; the fence will be ten feet
high with an angle cover over the top for protection; Champions golf
course has put up a similar fence and a picture was shown; our fence
will be black which will be more visually attractive; spoke with Brad
Westall, Greenways Planner for the City of Columbus, and discussed
one of their current projects; it was put on hold for ten years because
golfers did not want the fence; have now put in the fence and are
being requested to put in more fencing to protect trail users; they have
no issue now and the golfers are happy with the fence; noted that an
arbor was suggested by a resident; does not believe it will be safe or
low maintenance option; the wood will likely not stop the golf balls at
their speed; the wood may rot; will be higher in maintenance; if it
needs repaired it will not offer the same safety; the chain link fence
offers full-time protection and is limited maintenance; also, netting was
brought up by residents; that option lasts only a few short years
compared to the chain link fence and his experience with them and
other colleagues experience, it is not favorable..
Euton showed an image of the revised alignment of the tree impacts;
many of the pictured trees will need to come down for the project;
there is a cottonwood tree in the picture that will need to come down
for the project; with time the trees that are planted will match and give
a nicer look than they do today; recommend we keep this project
moving; do not want to put us in a penalty box for grants; we can
always disguise this fence; feel the fence is vital for trail users; we
need certified plans to get this moving forward for the grant; if the
fence is removed there is too much liability and an engineer will not
certify the plans; the City of Columbus has lived this situation and
found that people do not believe the fence is an issue or unattractive
once it is put up.
Angelou thanked Troy for putting this together; hope we can get out,
possibly on the website how it will look without the trees; hope we can
come up with good landscaping so this adds to the community; Euton
said Michael Heitzman suggested locking a landscape plan in now
and ensuring we have funding; Schnetzer confirmed the fence has to
cure for a year before being painted and asked if the landscaping
would have to be held up as well; Euton said the fence is galvanized
and should weather before it is painted; would love to paint it
immediately but need to get more opinions and to see if there is new
technology which can allow us to paint the fence immediately; Angelou
said Tom Liszkay wrote a letter and wanted to make sure that was
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known and everyone got it; Euton said there are public groups
meeting on a regular basis and discussing these items; they are the
public outreach; Kneeland said we could allow the audience to make a
comment on the fence; Catherine Cunningham said she sent the
picture of the arbor; understands the safety of the fence; thanks
everyone for working on the trail project; said the arbor picture shown
has not been touched in at least thirteen years; has had no
maintenance or paint or stain; believes it is a more attractive park-like
fence option; said the chain link fence looks like it belongs in an
industrial area; Tony Correlli from Rivers Edge Way said the chain link
fence breaks up the view and reminds him of a prison fence or the
fence that is over 270 on McCutcheon; said he is for the trail; does not
believe we need a fence; has seen other golf courses with trails that
do not have a fence through them; likes the idea of a trellis;
Cunningham noted it is backing up to residential homes and they likely
do not want to fence; Euton said understands the golf course has
been there for a long time but there has never been a trail through the
golf course; expect a busy trail when all the trails connect; appreciates
the alternative fence designs; do not know of a design that is as
effective or will be as economical to maintain as much as this fence;
we try be economical; said there are four homes across the street
from this fenced trail; one owner was not in favor of the fence because
they wanted a view of the golf course; the chain link fence does not
distract the view as the trellis option may; Miller said the top few feet of
the fence will be visible from the street area because of the slope and
the trees in the area; Leeseberg asked about the cost for a vinyl
coating versus painting; noted he was golfing today and one of the
best golfers he was with left hooked a shot today that nearly hit
someone’s windshield; chain link fence on a golf course is not
uncommon; it is economic; it is durable; you will not see it as you
distance yourself; Larick asked about fewer posts and cabling; Euton
said there is no update; have not hired any engineering to explore
that; we would be looking at a mesh fence along a cable structure; ice
and wind load would be problematic in professional experience;
Kneeland asked about renditions of the project as it currently is
configured; views from the street; Euton said we do not; reviewed
where the fence was shown to go in and where it would be eliminated;
intend to plant additional trees in other areas as some are removed; in
the picture shown on the projector the yellow represents a straight
shorter fence where it will address line drive balls; Miller said about
400 feet are below road level and are the eight foot not arched fence;
Angelou noted at the beginning of the fenced trail, it is 20 feet below
the road and you will not see the fence from the roadway; only the
golfers will see the fence; Euton said the project has 2100 feet of the
fence in the original plan but we are down to 1500-1700 now; also
reducing the taller arched fence by another 400 feet; happy to answer
any further questions or concerns; believes we need to move forward
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on this project.
ITEMS FROM THE CLERK OF COUNCIL
1. Fireproof Contract
McWilliams said we are requesting a contract renewal with Fireproof;
have had a contract with them since 1992; have the funds available; a
few items changed and they were reviewed with no issues by the City
Attorney; we have about 436 boxes at Fireproof which are more
permanent records and need protection; currently we are paying about
$176 a month; the fee increase as shown will increase currently bill to
about $196 a month; need to send additional boxes soon, so that price
will slightly increase.
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda.
2. Records Management Update
McWilliams said Human Resources (HR) will start at the end of next
week with Intellivue and that software; the Police Department is more
than half way through; currently use the software daily to search for
records; has been a benefit; Council and Legal are also using the
software; Kneeland asked Spence for feedback; Spence said a lot of
their records are on paper and stored in the basement or off site and
not in their current system; frequently get requests for these records
and it is difficult to retrieve them and distribute; ended up having to
make copies of copies to redact information and the quality was poor;
the new software makes it easy; can redact social security numbers
and use generalized templates in the software seamlessly; it is very
easy to retrieve information; excited to digitize and get these boxes off
site permanently and not stored in the basement; sorting through old
records has been labor intensive and time consuming and we will not
have to go back to that after things are in Intellivue; some items are
not able to be sent off site as they are sensitive items; with the
software we are above 60% through; it is a more efficient way to do
business; McWilliams added that Records has been able to eliminate
the use of the reader as everything can be found in Intellivue now and
we are happy with that progress.
2015-0159 Clerk of Council Supporting Documents
ITEM FROM THE DIRECTOR OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
1. Transfer Funds: Hourly to Contract Services Fund
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Gaydos said we are asking for motion resolution to transfer funds; the
amount being transferred will come from four different accounts that
were set aside for a full-time IT specialist position with the City; funds
will be transferred to contract services; will still be used for a full-time
IT specialist position but through a temporary agency until the end of
the year.
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda.
2015-0156 IT Supporting Documents
REPORTS
2015-0160 Parks & Recreation Report
ADJOURNMENT: 7:48 p.m.
Kayla Holbrook, Reporting
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Agenda
Office of the Clerk of Council
City of Gahanna 200 South Hamilton Road
Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Agenda
Committee of the Whole
Stephen A. Renner, Chair, Karen J. Angelou, Ryan P. Jolley, Thomas R. Kneeland
Brian D. Larick, Jamie Leeseberg, Michael Schnetzer
Kimberly McWilliams, CMC, Clerk of Council
Monday, August 10, 2015 7:00 PM Council Committee Rooms
ITEM FROM COUNCIL
ORD-0072-2015 TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO ENTER INTO CONTRACT WITH
COLUMBUS ASPHALT PAVING, INC. OF 1196 TECHNOLOGY DRIVE
GAHANNA, OHIO 43230 FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF BIG
WALNUT TRAIL SECTION 5; TO SUPPLEMENTALLY APPROPRIATE
$60,000; AND TO DECLARE AN EMERGENCY.
ITEMS FROM THE CLERK OF COUNCIL
1. Fireproof Contract
2. Records Management Update
2015-0159 Clerk of Council Supporting Documents
ITEM FROM THE DIRECTOR OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
1. Transfer Funds: Hourly to Contract Services Fund
2015-0156 IT Supporting Documents
REPORTS
2015-0160 Parks & Recreation Report
City of Gahanna Page 1 Printed on 8/7/2015
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