Committee of the Whole
Regular MeetingGahanna, OH · August 24, 2015
Minutes
Office of the Clerk of Council
City of Gahanna 200 South Hamilton Road
Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Minutes
Committee of the Whole
Stephen A. Renner, Chair, Karen J. Angelou, Ryan P. Jolley, Thomas R. Kneeland
Brian D. Larick, Jamie Leeseberg, Michael Schnetzer
Kimberly McWilliams, CMC, Clerk of Council
Monday, August 24, 2015 7:00 PM Council Committee Rooms
CALL TO ORDER
Chair Renner called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
Additional Attendees: Mayor Stinchcomb, Troy Euton, Rob Priestas,
Rory Gaydos, Jennifer Teal, Dottie Franey, Jeffrey Spence, Anthony
Jones, Michael Blackford, Kim McWilliams, Shane Ewald, Sue
Wadley, Joann Bury, Niel Jurist, Economic Development Plan
Presenters, Press, Residents.
Present 7 - Thomas R. Kneeland, Brian D. Larick, Jamie Leeseberg, Karen J.
Angelou, Michael Schnetzer, Stephen A. Renner, and Ryan P. Jolley
ITEM FROM THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE
1. Citywide Strategic Plan - Contracts for Facilitation
Teal said we have two agreements related to the Citywide Strategic
Plan; this is based on the feedback we received; two firms were
selected to better suit our needs; one focuses on community
engagement; the other focuses on goals and managing the results; we
have a tentative timeline planned out; will kick off September 14; in
order to start on time and kick off on the two month long engagement
process requesting emergency; the decision process was lengthy and
we want to get this moving; Angelou said likes the two choices; Larick
asked if the entire scope is 2-5 years; Teal said the entire project is
2-5 years with the results; Larick asked if we are taking a further look;
Teal said it has just been the 5 year time frame; implementation would
take place in mid-January; emergency allows us to kick off in
mid-September; this was our original goal before we decided to go
with two partners; that decision was not in our original timeline;
mid-September allows us to implement things in mid-January with a
new budget and after the election; Kneeland asked how this will
impact our budget; Teal said we will be on the course we were
budgeted for; can help us decide how we implement the funding in
2016; Managing Results made a good point stating we do a good job
of talking about what we do and how many things we build but we do
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not often talk about satisfaction of our consumers; Larick asked why
we are not looking past the 5 years; Teal said the time frame is a
period in which we can work to achieve meaningful results; said it is
not a vision plan; Larick is challenged with not having a long term
perspective of where we want to be; we need to know our destination;
Teal said this will give us long-term goals; may give us time to develop
meaningful plans to get to that place long-term; 2-5 years is more
strategic planning than we have ever done; Leeseberg said
Montgomery County updates their plan every five years; believes it
sounds reasonable; Jolley thought this was a long-term vision plan;
does not see the time line in the RFP; asked why planningNEXT had
12-18 public input meetings and now have 5; Teal said it has to do
with cost; the proposal was very expensive and we had to
compromise; felt this was a good amount to meet the goals we need
with this team; believe we can translate this into something we can
use; planningNEXT is very good at long term, 2020, big vision styles
but they are more about imagining potential and less about creating
real plan and action for the future; Jolley said we are focusing on
where we want to be; asked why we need this grand vision and now
scaling this back to our intention; Teal said we get to the big vision in
the 2-5 year plan; we have limited resources and are struggling to
agree on the priorities for those resources; taking large strategic plan
and dividing it up into a management plan; Jolley said does not see
the management plan for the critical factors we have; do not see the
over-arching visioning process that will lead to the plan; sounds like
we are doing another 2-5 year plan but with more articulation; does
not believe 5 meetings is enough; people do not find out about the
meetings until they have already taken place; liked planningNEXT
because they understood that you have to come at this multiple times;
we appropriated $100,000 for this project; does not see why we spend
the money with just 5 meetings; Schnetzer said we can set longer
term goals but does not believe we can go much further because the
economic and fiscal environment changes; Larick said we have longer
term perspectives that we need to understand; Teal said there were
objectives that the firms identified that were not achievable in 5 years
but they want to develop a plan for the approach on how we will get to
that point; will have bigger goals we are working on to get to where we
want to be, but it may not occur within the 5 years; the purpose of this
project is not to answer all our questions; we need a strategic
framework approach on learning how to talk and measure success
and priorities; most organizations who strategically plan do not just do
it once; Mayor Stinchcomb said these topics Council member Larick
are stating, we will hear from the community; also think it is important
to get this started; discussed this at budget time; believe it will set up
the new Mayor and Council members in a good term; this is a good
first step for this new approach; Renner said he shares the concerns;
believes the schedule has now been condensed; wants to focus on
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the community engagement; Teal said we will not be the experts on
how to set up the meetings; we will work with planningNEXT on this
step; they will try and reach the community and find out what is going
on; they are experts at drawing out ideas and thoughts and hopes for
the future from the people they speak to; will be a partnership and we
will work together on moving forward; will invent it as we go; Angelou
confirmed this process would be more transparent than it has in the
past; Teal said they can do this better than we can; example of a
customer with Managing Results was ADAMH; have been doing this
and are getting ready to kick off another 4-5 year plan; their goals
have not changed but their tactics have; Renner said we will not be
talking with the same group of people at these meetings; we will try
and touch different people at each meeting; will have everyone who
has attended the meetings meet again at the end; Teal said the idea
based on the timeline is for a mid-September kick-off; the public
engagement will occur in mid-November so it is an input in the rest of
the results; Kneeland said it looks like we will have one general input
section; Teal said we can work with them on that; the whole process in
developing the agreement is for the firm to get to know us; Kneeland
concerned that we get enough public input; Teal said it is not what we
have been discussing but it is not how it reads; Kneeland asked about
the specific stakeholders attending a meeting; said we need to expand
that as it is very important; Kneeland asked if they will be responsible
for advertising; Teal said yes they will; we will work with them but they
will come up with the graphic designs and be web-present; said we will
use our internal assets; Mayor Stinchcomb said when the firms meet
with all of us they will hear the concerns that are brought tonight; may
change the scope of work after they meet with us; Jolley said we have
asked for a proposal and they have given us a proposal; we are being
asked to pass an Ordinance based on the proposal; do not believe 5
meetings is enough; does not want to get started without a solid plan;
asked how many other public engagement meetings did other
municipalities have; Teal said planningNEXT does not have the
experience in managing the results like Managing Results did; want to
engage as many people as we can and develop big ideas to analyze;
said other entities with results had planned for 3-5 meetings; Jolley
said the 3-5 meetings may be the problem; said we need more on the
front end than we have ever got in the past; we have a great staff that
can turn things into results with far less resources; we lack in the
understanding of what the community wants; Renner believes the
adoption of the strategic plan should be very public; Teal said they
have not developed the plan yet; Angelou said we looked at three
choices; satisfied that we have chosen firms that can give us the
results we are looking for; we can add public engagement meetings as
needed; believe we need to move forward with an open end in the
beginning of the process; Teal said the timeline is in play on purpose;
need to include new leadership in the development but also need to
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include the expertise of existing leadership; Mayor Stinchcomb said
she believes we have good firms and we can broaden the scope as
needed; Larick said we are not concerned with the firms; a little
concerned with the goal we are trying to achieve and where we are
going; also concerned with the timeline a bit as it feels a bit rushed; at
a first reading option and would like to come back; Jolley agrees;
Angelou confirmed we do not have to rush this; Teal said there is no
rush, just excited to get this started; we also have our legislative
process we need to wait on; will lose valuable time beginning to work
with these firms; Kneeland also agrees we do not need to rush this;
wants more open dialogue in the time frame; need to tweak some
components; would prefer to revisit this now and save money.
RECOMMENDATION: First Reading; back to Committee on September 14, 2015.
2015-0166 Finance Supporting Documents
ITEM FROM THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT
1. Economic Development Strategy
Jones passed around the proposed Economic Development Plan
(attached); said we last visited the Economic Development Plan in
2007; have a few presenters here tonight who have worked tirelessly
on the details of the current plan; Chris Magill with Ice Miller gave a
powerpoint presentation; reviewed how to use the plan in a City; said it
is a guide to follow; reviewed how to use the plan in the private sector;
help them understand the potential; the plan was created with
community insight, existing market conditions, and market potential
and strategies were developed and the output was target sites; said
there is a lack of brand identity; their research shows Gahanna is not
at capacity; 25% of Gahanna's payroll comes from education and
healthcare; that is higher than state average; talked about how
community insight is very important; did a SWOT (strengths,
weaknesses, opportunities, threats) analysis for business
stakeholders; went out and met businesses and held meetings
engaging business owners; discussed the national average for
professional and business services and finance and insurance
services; looked at household incomes where Gahanna is growing;
can see where Gahanna is going and where we have dropped; Ken
Danter said we have a 19.5% vacancy rate in office space in
Gahanna; we have a couple great spots for office space in this City;
surveyed the City and what people were paying for rent, the growth
rate to determine how we could jump in front of that trend; warehouse
distribution is where we can jump ahead; looked at the hotel and
conference base; we have the airport and we have Easton; found we
have a good place for a conference center and additional hotels; we
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could have an asset here if we develop the Buckles Tract; we also
looked at residential; had very low vacancy rent; had rents higher than
the average in Ohio; despite the fact that our product is aged we are
still seeing these numbers; Magill reviewed the top economic
development strategies and the key findings; identified all of the
incentive tools the City can use already in their toolbox; OHM Advisor
representatives discussed the application of the plan for development
sites; reviewed the framework that was identified in Gahanna;
development sites were particularly selected; reviewed all of the target
sites that were identified; said there is data Gahanna does not collect;
should start with the data we already collect; the next steps will be
adoption by Gahanna City Council, establish implementation task
force and begin implementation.
Renner thanked Jones for showing powerpoint slides and presenting
something on the west side; asked what the next step for getting it to
the public; Jones said it has already started; educating businesses
and community leaders; said the Gahanna Area Chamber of
Commerce holds a forum; where the City's budget goes is still to be
determined; the Convention & Visitors Bureau will be heavily involved
as well as the schools; will next be getting this on the website for the
public to develop questions; Renner asked when they need Council
adoption; Jones said he believes that is something that happens at the
front; Kneeland said when the plan is adopted we need to bring the
public on board; need to point out this is not a project, is a strategic
plan; Renner would like to see a public engagement opportunity
before Council adoption; Angelou asked if they were planning to do a
public hearing; Jones said that would be a great idea; Larick confirmed
we have more capacity than there is demand; asked what the
resources or methods there are to manipulate the demand in our
specific location; Jones said we can show them the plan and show
them how we can meet their needs; will just guide them to our sites,
do not need to manipulate the market; Angelou asked if the
information will go to Columbus 2020; Jones said they are already
aware and have been involved in the process; Renner said he would
like to see a public education session prior to the public hearing at
Council; Magill added that time is money with this report; have already
been engaging businesses in the area and surrounding agencies;
noted this is just a guide; as the public starts recommending changes
it could change the game; Angelou would like this to be at a Council
meeting with an overview; Magill said the branding process will be
educational; Schnetzer asked what an optimal time frame for adoption
is; Jones said would like to see this adopted before the budget for
2016 is set in place; Teal said we will see the conversation about
strategic planning help us in this plan; Larick suggested an open
meeting between now and the second meeting in September; the first
meeting being a public hearing and the second meeting the adoption.
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RECOMMENDATION: First Reading on September 8, 2015; Second Reading &
Public Hearing on September 21, 2015.
2015-0176 Economic Development Plan & PowerPoint Presentation
2015-0170 Development Supporting Documents
ITEM FROM THE MAYOR
1. Motion Resolution - Mayor's CIC trustee appointment
Mayor Stinchcomb said she would like Council's support to add Betty
Collins to the CIC Board as a trustee.
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda.
2015-0167 Mayor's Supporting Documents
ITEMS FROM THE DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES
1. Motion Resolution - Transfer funds from PD to HR to cover recruiting
costs for the Deputy Chief position
Wadley said would like to transfer funds from the Police Department's
contract services fund to the Human Resources contract services fund
to account for expenses related to recruiting for the Deputy Chief
position; Larick asked if those are future costs; Wadley said they are
future, must have them appropriated before they can be spent.
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda.
2. Enter into agreement with International Association of Chief of Police to
conduct background investigations for Deputy Chief position
Wadley said this is to enter into agreement to conduct background
investigations; asking for emergency and waiver to speed up the
process; said we have completed the Civil Service testing as of today;
hope to have the test results back by early next week; the review
board will then own the process and they will make the schedule
based on their availability; Larick asked what the cost is; Wadley said
we were quoted for multiple items that we will not be using and we will
not be charged for services that are not utilized; the final candidate will
get the full background check; Kneeland asked when we need this
contract; Wadley said we need in the next 3-4 weeks to move forward
with the interview process.
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda.
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2015-0175 Human Resources Supporting Documents
ITEM FROM THE CLERK OF COUNCIL
1. Liquor Permit - D5, D6 - Mr. Sushi
Clerk McWilliams said Mr. Sushi is requesting a transfer of location
with their liquor permit; will be the same permits they have now; Larick
asked if there was a cost; McWilliams said yes, believe it was a $50
fee.
RECOMMENDATION: Consent Agenda.
2015-0168 Clerk of Council Supporting Documents
REPORTS
2015-0165 Parks & Recreation Report
ADJOURNMENT: 9:40 p.m.
Kayla Holbrook, Reporting.
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Agenda
Office of the Clerk of Council
City of Gahanna 200 South Hamilton Road
Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Agenda
Committee of the Whole
Stephen A. Renner, Chair, Karen J. Angelou, Ryan P. Jolley, Thomas R. Kneeland
Brian D. Larick, Jamie Leeseberg, Michael Schnetzer
Kimberly McWilliams, CMC, Clerk of Council
Monday, August 24, 2015 7:00 PM Council Committee Rooms
ITEM FROM THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE
1. Citywide Strategic Plan - Contracts for Facilitation
2015-0166 Finance Supporting Documents
ITEM FROM THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT
1. Economic Development Strategy
2015-0170 Development Supporting Documents
ITEM FROM THE MAYOR
1. Motion Resolution - Mayor's CIC trustee appointment
2015-0167 Mayor's Supporting Documents
ITEMS FROM THE DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES
1. Motion Resolution - Transfer funds from PD to HR to cover recruiting costs
for the Deputy Chief position
2. Enter into agreement with International Association of Chief of Police to
conduct background investigations for Deputy Chief position
2015-0175 Human Resources Supporting Documents
ITEM FROM THE CLERK OF COUNCIL
1. Liquor Permit - D5, D6 - Mr. Sushi
2015-0168 Clerk of Council Supporting Documents
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Committee of the Whole Meeting Agenda August 24, 2015
REPORTS
2015-0165 Parks & Recreation Report
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