Committee of the Whole
Regular MeetingGahanna, OH · July 6, 2020
Minutes
200 South Hamilton Road
City of Gahanna Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Minutes
Committee of the Whole
Nancy R. McGregor, Chair, Vice President
Jamie Leeseberg, President
Karen J. Angelou
Merisa Bowers
Brian D. Larick
Stephen A. Renner
Michael Schnetzer
April Beggerow, MPA, CMC, Clerk of Council
Monday, July 6, 2020 Virtual Meeting
Immediately Following Regular Council Meeting
Call in details: 513-306-4583
Conference ID: 282 291 680#
A. CALL TO ORDER
The Committee of the Whole meeting was called to order at 8:05 p.m. by Chair
Nancy McGregor. All members were in attendance.
B. DISCUSSIONS
1. ITEMS FROM THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SERVICE & ENGINEERING
ORD-054-2020 ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND THE DIRECTOR OF
PUBLIC SERVICE AND ENGINEERING TO ENTER INTO CONTRACT
WITH BURGESS & NIPLE, LLC., FOR THE WESTERN GAHANNA
SSES-PHASE1 PROJECT, APPROPRIATING FUNDS THEREFORE;
WAIVING SECOND READING AND DECLARING IT AN EMERGENCY.
Mr. Crawford presented his legislation. Maps have been added as
requested by public/council members.
These are in some of the oldest neighborhoods in the City in hopes of
mitigating and reducing impacts to large wet weather events. It includes
the purchase of flow monitors (Ord 55-2020) as well. This will determine
areas that will need fixed to reduce wet weather event impacts.
Ms. Bowers asked if there was a report from Pipetek who did the CCTV
of the area.
Mr. Crawford stated that there wasn't a report, they generate a project of
lines that need to be re-lined. They CCTV the lines and present a
project.
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Ms. Bowers asked if this project was in writing.
Mr. Crawford replied that the project was one of the other legislative
items approved earlier.
Mr. Renner emphasized the access to the maps.
Mr. Larick said he's trying to understand- is there an underlying concern
around a report?
Mr. Crawford replied that there are- there is a yearly camera and
cleaning program that generates a program. This year we had these 2
huge events that showed us that there are areas we can look into for
future projects that were impacted by these events. The evaluation
survey is to find out why there was so much stormwater that went into the
sanitary system.
Mr. Larick said he didn't understand the subtext.
Mayor Jadwin said that there are 3 projects, the CCTV project we do
every year. Based on the one from 2019, we generate the project for
2020. Then we have the CCTV for this year, that was the one voted on.
Now we have an overall project from the west side because there were
residents with raw sewage in their basement.
Mr. Larick said that Cliffview was mentioned and that's not west side.
Mr. Crawford said that parts of Grammercy- Cliffview were also affected.
Mr. Leeseberg asked when was last times these areas were cleaned
and videoed.
Mr. Crawford said a majority (14 miles) was cleaned in 2019.
Grammercy was 2014-2015
Mr. Leeseberg asked if there were problems.
Mr. Crawford said there were some improvements but nothing that said
why all this stormwater was getting in during these events.
Mr. Leeseberg asked how much was left in the sewer fund.
Mr. Crawford replied $2.2 million beginning balance for 2021 with this
project balance would be $1.6 million.
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Mr. Leeseberg asked what the annual income was for this fund
Mr. Crawford replied $600,00
Mr. Leeseberg said and we just dedicated $250K for this years CCTV,
more for repair and then a request for another $400K and we may not
find a solution. He expressed concern.
Mr. Crawford said that sewers are not designed to handle crazy wet
weather events, but they weren't 100 year events. When we checked that
last manhole before it dumps to the main trunk and it was handling what
we sent it. So the problem is not down stream.
Item sent to regular agenda for Waiver, and Adoption as an emergency.
RECOMMENDATION: Regular Agenda.
ORD-055-2020 ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND THE DIRECTOR OF
PUBLIC SERVICE AND ENGINEERING TO ENTER INTO AN
AGREEMENT WITH HACH COMPANY, FOR THE PURCHASE OF
FLOW MONITORS FOR THE WESTERN GAHANNA SSES-PHASE1
PROJECT, APPROPRIATING FUNDS THEREFORE; WAIVING
SECOND READING AND DECLARING IT AN EMERGENCY.
Mr. Crawford presented his legislation above, this item is shared with
item 054-2020.
Item referred to regular agenda for adoption with waiver and emergency.
RECOMMENDATION: Regular Agenda.
2. ITEM FROM THE INTERIM DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
ORD-056-2020 ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING AN AGREEMENT WITH OPRONA INC.
(ROSEN USA), FOR TAX ABATEMENT FOR PROPERTY LOCATED
AT 1195 TECHNOLOGY DRIVE; PARCEL ID NO. 025-008886; FOR A
PERIOD OF FIFTEEN YEARS, FOR ONE HUNDRED PERCENT TAX
ABATEMENT ON THE INCREASED VALUE OF THE PROPERTY;
PART OF COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT AREA #1; WAIVING
SECOND READING AND DECLARING IT AN EMERGENCY.
Ms. Syx presented her legislation. Rosen USA is a global company that
desires to expand their location established in 2014. Timing is critical
because we are in direct competition with Houston, TX. Jobs Ohio has
put an offer letter into Rosen. Ohio Development Services has offered a
job tax credit with this as well as a grant from Jobs Ohio. We want to
keep them here and invest in them as they have in us.
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Ms. Bowers asked if Rosen doesn't expand here, the abatement would
not survive that?
Ms. Syx replied correct. No jobs, no abatement.
Mr. Schnetzer said that these are well paying jobs that would be
beneficial to have. He asked about jobs created or retained and when
was the last time the city was able to create 70 full time jobs with that kind
of payroll.
Mayor Jadwin said it has been awhile but she would have to look.
Item referred to the regular agenda.
RECOMMENDATION: Regular Agenda.
3. ITEM FROM THE PLANNING & ZONING ADMINISTRATOR (ITEM HELD FROM
6/15)
ORD-052-2020 ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF
GAHANNA, OHIO: Amending Chapter 1171 Fences.
Mr. Blackford presented his legislation, there were no changes from the
previous discussion.
Mr. Larick asked that outstanding items that were being evaluated, is
there direction as to when those items will come back. The items need
resolved.
Mr. Leeseberg added that he was disappointed that the committee that
assembled those recommendations were never heard by Planning
Commission. He too wants answers to those questions.
Mayor Jadwin stated that there was a conversation about that issue of
the fence code and it was decided that they would continue to work on
that. There is a design code review and zoning code review upcoming.
This would be rolled into the edit of that portion of the code later in the
year. This is just a simple edit that will help clean up some needed
language now. This will help with 90% of the variances that come through
now. The other topics will just take a little longer to work through.
Mr. Larick said that as long as we have a method to make sure it's
monitored, he was ok with the opinion of council regarding this
legislation. He suggested maintaining an agenda item or push it back for
additional changes.
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Mr. Leeseberg said it could be years before the outside items are
addressed.
Mayor Jadwin said she disagrees, that it would be more like fall. She's
spent hours working on this and wants to get it addressed.
Committee members agreed to move this legislation forward and
maintain a discussion on future changes during upcoming Committee
meetings. This item will be on the Regular agenda on August 3 for
introduction and public hearing on August 17th.
RECOMMENDATION: Regular Agenda.
4. DISCUSSION: CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS
Ms. Bowers shared that she wanted a conversation about how we can
ensure our meetings are accessible to the public. She said there is a
loss of interaction when there isn't a face to face meeting. She
understands that there is a public health crisis, but there have been
comments from constituents frustrated with the loss of public comment.
She asked the Clerk to share the results of a survey among state clerks.
The Clerk shared that the survey was conducted asking who was remote
vs. in person and what City Hall buildings were open vs. still closed.
Approximately half of respondents are still virtual.
Mr. Larick stated that we have not eliminated public input, we just
changed the process.
Mr. Leeseberg stated that there was an option to have public comment.
That it is sent via email and read.
Ms. Bowers pointed out replied that on April 6 we suspended the rules to
eliminate Hearing of Visitors.
Mr. Larick said that public comment is a distinct role and if we need to
clarify that we should do that.
Mr. Leeseberg said he would work with the Clerk to improve this
process.
Mr. Renner said that we should have an active participation part to how
our meetings are. Live Stream, and participation. He is asking that if
we are staying virtual, then we need to figure out how to live stream and
give the public ability to interact real time. This process we have in place
isn't acceptable anymore.
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Mr. Larick said that we took action to conduct business with as much
information that we had and virtually every meeting has improved since
the beginning and this is just another a step to make an improvement so
we can continue to conduct effective transparent business and public
input.
Ms. Bowers said that if we can use this tech better, that solves the
concern. We have new tech in chambers, a number of municipalities are
doing hybrid meetings with some members in person, some virtually.
She wanted to add that as an option.
Next topic: Masks.
Ms. Bowers shared her memorandum regarding mask policy added to
the minutes. She feels that it isn't the role to implement a mask policy,
but to be attentive to constituents concerns. Concerns revolve around
enforcement.
Mrs. Angelou feels that if you want to feel safer, you should wear a mask
but it should be up to person to wear the mask. She suggests it be
encouraged.
Mr. Schnetzer said that during committee meetings there are agendas
and documents, it's typically a fact finding endeavor. In this case, how
would such a mandate evolve. And how would enforcement come into
play.
Chief Spence replied that any mandate or requirement there would be an
expectation of compliance and enforcement. From the law enforcement
perspective compliance and enforcement would be tricky. This is the
enforcement of public health which is usually performed by Franklin
County Public Health. There really is no enforcement mechanism.
Compliance really rests with the individual. Voluntary compliance is best.
Any private business can refuse business with anyone. Enforcement is
last on the list.
Mr. Renner stated that the Governor and local officials ask people to
wear a mask, but health officials stop short of issuing mandates. He
doesn't want to criminalize it. He feels that the model that Westerville
has implemented is a happy medium that makes it pro choice but
empowers businesses to push people out. It should be a pro education
campaign. The science is clear, wear a mask. When it comes to a
pandemic we just don't understand. We should be promoting education
and public awareness. He encouraged a look at the Westerville
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language.
Mr. Leeseberg said its hard for our PD to enforce. He is not in favor of
penalties or mandates, but he is in favor of education.
Next Discussion: Police Policies
Mrs. McGregor stated that the next topic for discussion was on Police
policies and that there are lots of policies that affect the police
department, those that are dictated by the union, those dictated by HR,
and others that should be addressed to the Mayor, Safety Director and
Chief. If you have concerns, the Mayor is who you should speak with as
the Police policies are really up to the Mayor. The chain of command is
Police Department, Safety Director, Police Chief and the Mayor is at the
top of the chain of command. If there is an issue, you can make a
suggestion but they are the ones in charge of making the policy
decisions.
Ms. Bowers said the discussion she wanted to have was along the lines
more of a fact finding. The conversation on June 10 opened the door to
some topics and the questions she had for the HR Director were around
what types of investigations do we conduct with regard to hiring police
officers and she was comfortable not having that discussion this evening.
Mrs. McGregor replied that this was a discussion she should have
directly with Ms. Vollmer as it's her question and not a Committee of the
Whole issue.
Mayor Jadwin said she preferred it to go through her because it involves
policies that are in place.
Back to Discussion on Meetings:
Committee members discussed a return to the office and it was agreed
upon that meetings will remain virtual through the end of August and will
reassess.
Meeting adjourned at 9:54 p.m.
2020-115 Bowers Memorandum Regarding Mask Policy
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Agenda
200 South Hamilton Road
City of Gahanna Gahanna, Ohio 43230
Meeting Agenda
Committee of the Whole
Nancy R. McGregor, Chair, Vice President
Jamie Leeseberg, President
Karen J. Angelou
Merisa Bowers
Brian D. Larick
Stephen A. Renner
Michael Schnetzer
April Beggerow, MPA, CMC, Clerk of Council
Monday, July 6, 2020 Virtual Meeting
Immediately Following Regular Council Meeting
Call in details: 513-306-4583
Conference ID: 282 291 680#
A. CALL TO ORDER
B. DISCUSSIONS
1. ITEMS FROM THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC SERVICE & ENGINEERING
ORD-054-2020 ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND THE DIRECTOR OF
PUBLIC SERVICE AND ENGINEERING TO ENTER INTO CONTRACT
WITH BURGESS & NIPLE, LLC., FOR THE WESTERN GAHANNA
SSES-PHASE1 PROJECT, APPROPRIATING FUNDS THEREFORE;
WAIVING SECOND READING AND DECLARING IT AN EMERGENCY.
ORD-055-2020 ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR AND THE DIRECTOR OF
PUBLIC SERVICE AND ENGINEERING TO ENTER INTO AN
AGREEMENT WITH HACH COMPANY, FOR THE PURCHASE OF
FLOW MONITORS FOR THE WESTERN GAHANNA SSES-PHASE1
PROJECT, APPROPRIATING FUNDS THEREFORE; WAIVING
SECOND READING AND DECLARING IT AN EMERGENCY.
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2. ITEM FROM THE INTERIM DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
ORD-056-2020 ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING AN AGREEMENT WITH OPRONA INC.
(ROSEN USA), FOR TAX ABATEMENT FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT
1195 TECHNOLOGY DRIVE; PARCEL ID NO. 025-008886; FOR A
PERIOD OF FIFTEEN YEARS, FOR ONE HUNDRED PERCENT TAX
ABATEMENT ON THE INCREASED VALUE OF THE PROPERTY; PART
OF COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT AREA #1; WAIVING SECOND
READING AND DECLARING IT AN EMERGENCY.
3. ITEM FROM THE PLANNING & ZONING ADMINISTRATOR (ITEM HELD FROM 6/15)
ORD-052-2020 ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF GAHANNA,
OHIO: Amending Chapter 1171 Fences.
4. DISCUSSION: CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS
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