City Council Meetings
Regular MeetingGreen River, WY · October 13, 2015
Minutes
CITY OF GREEN RIVER
CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP PROCEEDINGS
October 13, 2015
The Governing Body of the City of Green River met in workshop session at 6:30 pm in the City
Hall Council Chambers. Mayor Rust called the meeting to order. The following Council
Members were present: Mark Peterson, Ted Barney, Allan Wilson, Brett Stokes, and Gary
Killpack. The following were present representing the City: City Administrator Reed Clevenger,
Director of Human Resources Cari Kragovich, Director of Public Works Mike Nelson, City
Engineer/ Utility Manager Mark Westenskow, Director of Finance Chris Meats, Chief of Police
Chris Steffen, and Parks and Recreation Director Brad Raney.
Discussion on Northside Lift Station
Mr. Westenskow said there are some items that will be going before council for approval in the
next couple of weeks so he wanted to clarify some of them tonight. Recently, there was an
evaluation completed on the Northside Lift Station and it was recommended to pursue funding to
replace it and get started on a new design for the facility. The Community Rediness Grant
application will be before council next week. It will be for the construction of the facility 1.3
million. The match is $194,550 there has been $150,000 budgeted and can be used for the match.
They will need to do a budget amendment for an estimated $44,000 in order to complete the
entire match needed for the project. They have a design contract with an engineer for $156,000
that would come out of the match funds. They have already spent $35,000 that counts towards
the match. The area the project will affect is everything north of the river.
Council Member Killpack said the bottom line is the city has to come up with the $44,000.
Mr. Westenskow said the funds will have to be transferred from the Wastewater Fund.
Mr. Clevenger said this project is totally separate from the Collier and the Hutton Heights Lift
Station projects.
The Mayor asked if the wastewater fund can handle the $44,000 being taken out.
Mr. Westenskow said there was a surplus in the Wastewater Fund and is running around $2.4
million so there is plenty.
Council Member Peterson asked if the gentleman that complained from the Hutton Heights
trailer park is satisfied with that lift station project now.
Mr. Westenskow said they are in contact with him and are working the details out. The
gentleman has expressed that he would like to get the project underway.
Mr. Clevenger said the bids are being looked at because of the cost. The amounts were much
higher than budgeted.
Council Member Barney asked if the lift station would be compatible to handle the new
development in the area.
Mr. Westenskow said yes.
Discussion on the Landfill Scale
Mr. Meats said the Department of Agriculture came in to certify our scale at the landfill which is
required in order to use it for commerce and it was found to be out of compliance. The first
weight he put on was drastically off so he did not go any further. Fairbanks was called to look at
the scale to see what can be done to comply. They have adjusted the scale beyond its means and
will require major repairs to be in compliance at a cost of $40,000 or $50,000. Staff has looked
in to bringing a portable scale which would be a short term fix for around $4,000 or more every
month. They are looking at short term because the city will be going to a transfer station. Staff
would like to convert how we are billing residents for disposing at the landfill. When the transfer
station is put in, the commercial resident customers will not be able to dump in the landfill and
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they would like to start billing on volume base. It will be a reasonable estimate but would help
since the cost of the scale repairs are so high and not cost effective at this time. Staff would like
council’s approval to draft a letter and send it to all of the commercial customers that will be
affected. Staff will convert the price per tonnage to an estimated cubic yard per tonnage using the
EPA estimates of 650 to 800 pounds per cubic yard.
The Mayor asked who it would affect the most.
Mr. Meats said Waste Management, Little America, United Site Services and Western Relief.
They are all commercial waste haulers.
Council Member Peterson said he does not see a problem with drafting a letter.
Council Member Wilson asked if he has spoken with the Rock Springs landfill to let them know
that the city will be diverting people to them.
Mr. Meats said yes.
Council Member Wilson suggested having a meeting with the company reps as well as sending a
letter.
Mr. Meats said they were planning to call them, send letters, and host meetings if needed.
The Mayor asked council if they agreed to have staff draft a letter.
Mr. Meats said they will bring a new fee schedule before council on the first meeting in
November.
Discussion on the Police Department Shooting Range
Chief Steffen said the shooting range was incorporated in to the plans for the new Police building
but due to funds it was removed. They have explored many different ways of funding, as far as
grants, but for the most part they wanted the range to be available to the public and that is not the
plan. The space is there and the HVAC is run to the area and will need to be finished. The overall
cost was higher due to the acoustic concerns on the ceiling. The administration offices are above
the range and they will not be able to hear anything if there isn’t some form of sound dampening
put in. The project went out for bid and all of them came in very high.
Council Member Wilson asked how much is the shortfall for the project.
Chief Steffen said the lowest bid received was $515,000 so approximately $190,000.
Council Member Peterson asked what the costs of the sound dampening are.
Chief Steffen said he is not sure what the total would be for the sound dampening part of the
project. He doesn’t think it was broke down so specifically.
Council Member Peterson said he was disappointed that the project is so close to be
accomplished and now it stalled again. He wants to see it completed.
Chief Steffen said this is a want and not a need but it would be used by the department and
possible trainings.
Council Member Killpack said it might come down to a point where the city has to decide which
project is the one that needs to be done. The Depot can sit and wait so maybe we can take funds
from the Depot and put it towards the shooting range.
Council Member Stokes said he thinks the range needs to be finished and there is a way that the
funds can be moved around to do so.
Council Member Barney asked why they can’t test fire some rounds in the room to see what the
noise level is.
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Chief Steffen said they can test it out. He is curious on what will be needed or not needed.
Council Member Peterson asked how long it would take to rebid the project.
Chief Steffen said it would depend on how much the specs are changed and the contractor.
Council Member Killpack said if the city is going to do the project it needs to be done correctly.
The Mayor said the noise issue is pure speculation no one knows what might need to be done.
Mr. Clevenger said everyone wants to get it done but it needs to be decided how and when.
Questions that need to be asked are:
What is the purpose of the shooting range
What kind of funding is available
Should the project be held until next budget year
What needs to be included in the range
Should it be available for use to other law enforcement agencies
Council Member Wilson said he does not think it is a good idea that the city goes in with a
private shooting range. There is too much liability. The project needs to be completed and if
funds have to be moved from the Depot then that is fine. It needs to be done correctly.
Council Member Stokes said the private part makes him nervous and agrees with Council
Member Wilson. Whatever needs to be done needs to be done correctly, should be done.
The Mayor asked Council Member Stokes if the Sherriff’s office would be interested in helping
fund the project. If the city could get other law enforcement entities involved maybe they would
use the range.
Council Member Stokes said there is a need for a range and it is worth having a discussion with
the commissioners.
Council Member Killpack agrees with council members. If there is a partnership with any other
entities then the city loses control. He thinks it will be better to keep it under the city and offer it
for use to the law enforcement agencies.
Council Member Barney does not like the private partnership either. He wants to know how
much funds are needed so when it is put out for bid everything is there.
Council Member Peterson asked if the funds can be taken from the Emergency Management
Fund.
Mr. Clevenger said the funds are not there it only has $870,000.
Council Member Wilson said everything is there in the room where the shooting range will be so
it won’t be that hard.
Council Member Killpack said all the funds in the budget are tied up so the funds might have to
be pulled from other projects that don’t have to be completed right away.
Mr. Clevenger said based on the bids that were received the city could make sure the contractor
will honor the bid and if so the funds can be moved to the project and the bid can be awarded.
Council Member Wilson said the city needs to contact all of the companies to see if they will
honor the bids and then the city can move forward.
The Mayor said the consensus is: no private partnerships, no public partnerships, utilize use fees
if available, no public use and are the bids still good or not.
City Administrator’s Report
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Mr. Clevenger had nothing to report.
Mayor and Council Reports
Council Members Stokes and Peterson had nothing to report.
Council Member Killpack asked for this bid award to be put back on the agenda for approval.
Council Member Barney said advertising the special items we have in Green River will bring
people here to stay here and spend money.
Council Member Wilson said there will be advertisements in the Travel and Tourism magazines
so the word of Green River is getting out. The Trunk or Treat was a great event. He
congratulated the volunteers and URA/Main Street for a job well done.
The Mayor said $200 million is being budgeted in Colorado for their bike system and they are
right next door so we can use the same promotions to bring people here. Laramie and Rawlins
are very enthusiastic about their community and the citizens are very proud. The Trunk or Treat
was a huge success.
Adjournment
The meeting adjourned at 7:49 pm.
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Pete Rust, Mayor
ATTEST:
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Chris Meats, City Clerk
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